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Updated: 21 February 2009
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Judy Thurgood
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Wingrove, Wingrave or Thurgood
Here is my huge leap of faith; the conclusion that this Wingrave or Wingrove family changed their surname to Thurgood in Sydney about 1881 and that conclusion needs some background.
I'd dearly love to hear from anyone who can make a connection to any of this, either before 1861 or after 1880.The following details are from Certs unless otherwise noted:1861 Census Alfred Wingrave, Army Private, Sandling Rd Barracks, West Maidstone, Kent.
Aged 20 born "Herts Hitcham"18691869 Alfred Wingrove m. Sarah McCloud in Dublin Co. of City of Dublin,
19 Dec 1869 after banns.Alfred, Private in 12th Lancers, living in Royal Barracks - father James, Coachman.Sarah, Servant, living at 6 Montpelier Hill - father William, Machanist (sic)
Both 'Full' Age1869 Unnamed Wingrane (sic), female b. 17 Oct 1869 Belfast Co. Antrim (unamed at registration) parents Alfred Wingrane, Lancer of England & Sarah Wingrane, birth name McCloud (Informant - C/Resident Officer, Lying-in Hospital),1871 Census Alfred Wingrave, Coachman, 6 Union Tce Aldershot aged 29 born ?
possibly "Herts Itchen".Sarah Wingrave, wife aged 24, born Co. Down,Alfrinda Wingrave, daughter aged 1, born Co. Antrim1873 William F (Wingrove ?), BC not sighted, but listed on Immigration Shipping List - see below1874 Alfred George Wingrave b.1 Jul 1874, 4 Dale St Hunset. Father Alfred Wingrave, Coachman, Mother Sarah Wingrave formerly McCloud (Informant - Sarah) Family living at 148 Dewsbury Rd Hunslet1877 - Family takes assisted passage to Sydney Aust. on 'Earl Dalhousie', left Plymouth 26 Jan 1877 arrived Sydney 7th May. Shipping List has Alfred 33, CofE, Carter from Leeds, both parents dead, can read & write. Sarah, 29, can read, mother Maria McLeod, living Bangor N. Wales, R.C.Children Alfrinda, William F, Alfred G shown as 7, 4 & 2 respectively.1877 Unamed baby girl, stillborn, 11 Apr 1877, on board 'Earl Dalhousie' Cert has Father Alfred Wingrave, Cartman1878 Minnie Wingrave b. 12 May 1878 b. Brougham St Woolloomooloo, Aust, parents Alfred Wingrave 35 Groom b 'Essex England', Sarah McLeod, 30 b Belfast (Informant - Sarah)1879 Minnie Wingrave d. 8 May 1879 Woollahra. "Difficult dentition, dysentry - 9 days" - parents Alfred Wingrave, Groom & Sarah Jane McLeod, buried CofE, Necropolis (Rookwood) 9 May 1879 (Informant - Alfred)1879 Sands Directory for Sydney has 'Alfred Wengrave' (sic), listed as a Groom at Brougham St Woolloomooloo.1880 Charles Wingrave b. 28 Mar 1880 Woollahra, parents Alfred Wingrave Groom, b "Essex England", Sarah McLoud, 31 b Belfast (Informant - Sarah)This appears to be the end of the story for the Wingrave in Australia, and so far I have not found any trace of them returning to UK.On the other hand, the Thurgood family appears in Sydney in 1882.So, starting from the present and working backwards we have two branches of a Thurgood family living on the North Coast of NSW who have been searching their antecedents since 1980 with limited success.The only information available to them was the names of their grandfathers, two brothers, Charles & Arthur Thurgood. Anecdotally, they were two of 6 children whose parents drowned in a horse-driven vehicle accident, the younger ones being taken into care and the family broke up and lost touch. Arthur Thurgood also drowned in 1918 when his eldest child was 8yrs. Charles was an introspective personality and his family gleaned little of his history other than that he had been taken into care as a child. He died in 1960Extensive searches finally revealed that the family consisted of:Alfred George Thurgood aka George Thurgood, b. England abt 1842, d. 1886 Sydney accidentally drowned in horse & cart accidentSarah Thurgood, nee McLoud/McLeod, b. Belfast abt 1847, various recordings as Sarah Thirgood, d. (killed) 1889 SydneyTheir children:Alfrinda Thurgood aka Amy, Alfrinda Amy, b.Dublin Ireland, calc DoB 1869 from all NSW certs. M1 1895, M2 1918, d. 1935 (Dau. b1883, no trace)William Francis Thurgood claims Dob 29 May 1873, Hounslow (Perhaps Hunslet?) M.1900, d.1953, Railway Employment Record 1901Alfred George Thurgood - mother's DC indicates DoB abt 1872 - possibly the Alfred George Thurgood who joined the Victorian Boer War contingent.Charles Thurgood - age given on mother's DC indicates DoB abt 1881, No BC found. (New search of Child Protection records as 'Charles Wingrave' pending)Walter aka Arthur Thurgood b. 1884 - BC. Child Protection 1889-1902Sydney & Violet Thurgood (twins) b. 1882 - BC. Violet d.1883. Sydney in Child Protection 1889-1900Sarah's DC names the above children as 'living, 3 females deceased'. The deceased girls are possibly Violet Thurgood, (the twin) d.1883, Minnie Wingrave d.1879 and the stillborn 'unnamed' Wingrave, d.1877No prior trace can be found of this lineage anywhere in Aust or UK. We are unable to find their arrival in Australia or make a connection between this family and the many Thurgood families in the UK.While the ages and names stated are not absolutely exactly matching, on the balance of probabilities I believe the two families are the same.I think that Charles Wingrave, b.1880 became known as Charles Thurgood before 1882 and now plan to check whether a CP Record exists for him in that name.I would be glad to hear from anyone on these conclusions.Judy Thurgood anjthurgood AT bigpond Dot com
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