Two Different Surnames
or Variations
?
& the use of these surnames as Christian name and middle nameThomas B Wingrove
It all depends on what part of England you come from as to the broadness of
dialect. A large part of southern/south east England speak with a London accent that is
fairly easy to follow but also have local country burr dialects in local areas. The west
country can be quite a broad country type accent, which can be hard to follow. The
midlands accent is very deep and pronounced, with broad variations within the local areas.
As for the north east/west very broad and deep accents area to area which can be very hard
to follow to say the least. I believe that dialect has a strong part to play in name
changes of all descriptions over the centuries within Britain as a whole. So it is no
surprise that there could be or is, a strong link between
Wingrove
& Wingrave. Another aspect to remember is before
travel became the norm, people tended to stay within their localities all their lives, so
accents would have been more pronounced, with name corruption prevalent.
Wingrove
& Wingrave. Another aspect to remember is before
travel became the norm, people tended to stay within their localities all their lives, so
accents would have been more pronounced, with name corruption prevalent.
Wingrove
& Wingrave. Another aspect to remember is before
travel became the norm, people tended to stay within their localities all their lives, so
accents would have been more pronounced, with name corruption prevalent.
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Part of the following is based on information provided by Jill Roy², a direct descendant of this family and
David Lane¹ descendant of another Bates line from the same area.
Ravenstone is a small parish in north Bucks, near Newport
Pagnell. It
is on the border with Northamptonshire.
From photocopy of a transcript of the Ravenstone parish registers¹
1568 to 1812, transcribed by Oliver Ratcliff and published by
the Bucks Parish Register Society about 1902
The Wingrove (and variant) entries are:
Richard Wingrave married Lucy - about 1780 no location².
9 April 1786¹, baptised,
Sophia daughter of Richard & Lucy WINGRAVE
Sophie Wingrof, daughter of Richard and Lucy
baptised Ravenstone 1786
9 April 1786¹, baptized, Sophia Wingrave
daughter of Richard & Lucy WINGRAVE
Sophie Wingrof, daughter of Richard and Lucy
baptized Ravenstone 1786
baptized Ravenstone 1786²
12 October 1788¹, baptized,
William son of Richard & Lucy WINGGROVE
17 September 1805¹,
married, Thomas BATES of Lavendon Parish Bucks, &
Sophia WINGROF of this
parish
10 March 1811¹, buried, William son of Richard & Lucy WINGROVE
14 June 1807¹, baptized, William
Wingrove Bates,
son of Thomas & Sophia BATES
from another BATES researcher [unknown]
8 June 1813, baptized, Richard Wingrove
Bates
son of Thomas & Sophia BATES
16 April 1816, baptized Sarah
Wingroffe Bates
daughter of Thomas & Sophia BATES
Sarah Wingrove [Wingroffe]
Bates married Daniel Robbins
12 October 1788¹, baptized, William
Winggrove
son of Richard & Lucy WINGGROVE
17 September 1805¹, married, Thomas BATES
of Lavendon Parish Bucks, &
Sophia WINGROF of this
parish
10 March 1811¹, buried, William
Wingrove
son of Richard & Lucy WINGROVE
14 June 1807¹, baptized, William
Wingrove Bates,
son of Thomas & Sophia BATES
from another BATES researcher [unknown]
8 June 1813, baptized, Richard Wingrove
Bates
son of Thomas & Sophia BATES
16 April 1816, baptized Sarah
Wingroffe Bates
daughter of Thomas & Sophia BATES
Sarah Wingrove [Wingroffe]
Bates
married Daniel Robbins² in Ravenstone
and the whole family emigrated to Australia in the 1850's
with the exception of the eldest daughter who was already married. and the whole family emigrated to Australia in the 1850's
with the exception of the eldest daughter who was already married.
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This translates into the following lineage with variation in the surname
for RICHARD WINGRAVE and LUCY
1. RICHARD WINGRAVE married LUCY about 1780- no location
They had at least two children:
2. Sophie Wingrof baptized 1786
Sophia Wingrave
baptized 9 April 1786 Ravenstone Bucks
Sophia Wingrof married
17 September 1805, Ravenstone Bucks
Thomas Bates of Lavendon Parish Bucks
They had at least 2 children:
3. Richard Wingrove
Bates baptized 8 June 1813
3. Sarah Wingroffe
Bates baptized 16 April 1816
Sarah Wingrove
Bates married Daniel Robbins
in Ravenstone
The whole family with
the exception of the eldest married daughter emigrated to Australia
1850's
2. William Winggrove baptized 12 October 1788
Ravenstone
buried 10 March 1811 Ravenstone
SEE ALSO Carolyn Donaghey submission that
expands on this line
ALSO WINGRAVES
both at this site
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Webmaster: Examples of the use of Wingrove
or Wingrave as a middle name obtained
from New South Wales [Australia]
Birth, Deaths and Marriages Indexes
http://203.111.111.137/cgi-bin/bdm?form=indexes;
Free access for a trial time
1939/3365 1939
JOHN WINGRAVE SHARPE / ESTHER FLORENCE TEMPLEMAN
1940/1380 1940
GEORGE WINGRAVE CHANEY / ISABELLA CONSTANCE ALLEN
1937/9233 1937
WILLIAM WINGROVE SMITH / DULCIE MARJORIE HUBBARD
1938/240 1938
GEORGE WINGROVE OSBORNE/ MARY ALICEIRENE MALONEY
1941/17158 1941
REUBEN INGRAME WINGROVE HARDIE/
married
to CLARICE EILEEN HATTERSLEY
1943/17415 1943
RAYMOND WINGROVE DALY OSBORNE/ FRANCES EILEEN
1945/9801 1945
PERCIVAL GEORGE HENRY BASTOW/
married to ROVENUS WINGROVE BYRNES
* and I'm not sure if the names were transposed in this one from their records
1940/2978 1940
GEORGE WILLIAM MEYER WINTLE/ WINGROVE ELLEN
If
this is correct: the only female that I've found with Wingrove as first name
Wingrove Bennett male, lived in the USA in 1800's
1820 Census for Sullivan County Indiana and
1850 Wisconsin's
Census Index Columbia Co
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George Wingrove Cooke
1814-1865 was a notable journalist
writing on a variety of topics including China
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A Search from Public Record Office of UK
suggests that the village of Wingrave was at one time known as Wengrave
Document Details C 1/6/305 Records of the Chancery, and also
of the Wardrobe, Royal Household, Exchequer and various commissions
Class Title Court of Chancery: Six Clerks' Office: Early Proceedings, Richard II
to Philip and Mary
Piece/Item Title Robert Braham, of Cheddington. v. .... Braham, John Aleyn, John atte
Knolle, and others, of Cheddington and Wingrave (Wengrave).: Attack on
petitioner's house at Cheddington (Chedyngdon),and menaces, &c.: [Bucks].
LOOKING for other examples to support or refute the assumption that WINGROVE has several variations notably WINGRAVE
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