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John Watling , William
Bartlet ,
theft: specified place, theft: simple grand larceny, 21 Feb 1753.
The Proceedings of the Old Bailey Ref:
t17530221-46
Original Text:
156, 157. (M.) John Watling and William
Bartlet, were indicted for stealing 600 lb. weight of lead, value 3
l. the property of Isaac Jesurun Albareys, February 13. ||
Mr. Albareys. I have a country
house at Hackney. On the 13th of this month I came to town early in the
morning; my servant came to me and told me my two leaden statues,
Mercury and Fame, (which had stood in my garden, and they were taken
down) were taken away. After that I had a second message came, that the
men who took them were in custody at the Red Lion, in Kingsland Road, so
I went there and saw the two prisoners and some lead cut to pieces,
which were statues by the two heads of them. I believe them to be mine.
There was Wingrove,
the evidence ; they all three confessed, before we went to the
justice's, they had been in my garden that night, and took the statues
away, and that lead was part of them, and that they had cut them to
pieces. Wingrove
also informed me that he had been there the Friday before to survey the
place to see what they could take away this was about two in the
afternoon. After this they confessed the same before justice Fielding.
John Wingrove
. I robbed with the two prisoners some time; I live near Whitechapel-Church;
we all three went into Mr. Albarey's garden about a fortnight ago, and
took the two images through the summer-house window, and carried them
out into a field, and Watling sawed them to pieces.
Q. In what position did you find them
in the garden?
Wingrove.
They were lying down against a green house, one was a male, and the
other a female. I believe they might weigh about 300 lb. weight or
upwards. When we had cut them to pieces, we put some into a sack, a pair
of wallets, and a basket, and carried them away, except some of the
heads and arms, which we hid in a gravel-pit in a field. We were taken
up directly in the man's cellar who used to buy all the things of us.
Q. What time did you all enter the
garden?
Wingrove.
We were in it about 11 o'clock; when we had done sawing it might be
about three, and we got to Robertson's, by Whitechapel church, about
five.
Mr. Brogden. I am clerk to
justice Fielding (he produces the two written confessions signed by the
two prisoners). I saw them both sign them, they were done at their own
desire, freely and voluntarily. I also saw the justice sign each of
them. They were read in court. The contents was that of stealing the
lead, mentioned in all the indictments specified below, with this fact,
which only was read .
Watling's Defence.
I made the first discovery of the
thing.
Bartlet's Defence.
I met this prisoner (meaning Watling)
and the evidence on a Monday night, who persuaded me to go with them.
Both guilty.
There were other indictments against
them as below; but not being laid capital, there was no need to try them
any more, as this transported them.
1. For stealing two hempen sacks, and
one saddle value 12 s.
2. For stealing 500 lb. weight of lead
from off the parish church of
Edmonton, January 27.
3. For stealing 300 lb. weight of lead from off the parish
church of Tottenham.
4. Watling only for stealing 300 lb.
weight of lead out of the garden of
Henry Spurling ,Esq;
Summary:
The trials being ended, the court
proceeded to give judgement as follows:
Received sentence of death, 7.
John Jettea , Charles Sickamore , Mary
Squires , Edward M'Manning, otherwise Howard, otherwise James Farrol,
Grace Weedon , Isabella Roe, and John Higgins .
Grace Weedon and Isabella Roe pleaded
their bellies, and a jury of matrons were impannell'd, and brought in
their verdict, Both not with quick hl.
Transported for 14 years, 3.
Mary Clark , Mary Ridge , and Eliz.
Pierce.
Transported for 7 years, 38.
Ann Nelson , Edmund Reeves , John
Taylor , James Thompson , Joseph Banks , Ann Blundell , John E. vans,
James Francis , Gerrard Levy, Martha Batcheldor , John Warner , John
Brooke , Michael Haws , Mary Johnson, Elizabeth Harrison, James Blundell
, John Miles , George Hermitage , Abraham Vineyard , Martha Smith , Jane
Batcheldor , Essex William, otherwise William Essex, John Watlin ,
William Bartlet , Joseph Robinson , John Room , Margaret Richards , John
Smith , otherwise Groves, Thomas Dennis , Silvester Eager , Sarah
Summers , Joshua Anderson , Anthony Harper , George Blundull, Bridget
Johnson , William Walden , William Buttersfield , and Isabella Harvey .
Branded, 2.
William Elward and Ann Prosser .
Susannah Wells to be branded, and to be
imprisoned in the prison of Newgate 6 months.
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James Robertson ,
theft: receiving stolen goods, 02 May 1753.
The Proceedings of the Old
Bailey Ref: t17530502-10
Original Text:
187. (M.) James Robertson was
indicted for receiving 300 weight of lead, knowing it to have been
stolen by John Watling and William Bartlet , the property of Jesurun
Albareys , Feb. 13. ++
(See No 156, 157, in the last Sessions
Paper).
The prosecutor deposed as on the former
trial, with this addition, that the prisoner absconded from the time of
the robbery, and was but lately taken.
John Wingrove
, the accomplice, depos'd as before with this addition, that he was in
the prisoner's cellar, with the prisoner, in order to weigh it and take
the money for it, when the thief-catchers came to take him; but himself
and the prisoner having notice of it got off; that he, and the two
others cast last sessions, always had of the prisoner nine shillings a
hundred; but this they were not paid for. When they carried the lead
they told him what they had got, and he got out of bed and let them in
with it.
James Brebrook . I am an officer
belonging to the Marshalsea Court: on the 13th or 14th of February I had
a warrant to search the prisoner's house, which is in Church-lane,
Whitechapel; I went there by the direction of Watling, who wanted to be
an Evidence, and told me there were part of the lead there: the prisoner
and his wife were very unwilling to let me go down into the cellar;
there I track'd the feet of a single man going out backwards in the
Snow; I went into the cellar, and found a sack with lead in it, likewise
a pair of wallets, in which was the hand of an image, which the
prosecutor believes to be his property; we found about 300 weight in
all. Robertson; told me he gave a market price for the lead to Wingrove,
Watling, and Bartlet. We took Robertson up to Kingsland Road, where
was more of the lead; there he finding it was like to go hard with him,
he ran away, and was not taken again till last Thursday, and deserted
his house, and put a padlock on the door.
Edward Pinches. I was with
Brebrook at the time. He confirmed the testimony given by him.
Charles Rimmington . I was with
Brebrook and Pinches at the time they speak of. He confirmed the
account,
Prisoner's Defence.
They found the lead there, but it is
none of mine, I did not buy it.
For the Prisoner.
Ann Peirce . I lodge in his
house; I heard somebody at the door; I arose, and let two men in betwixt
6 and 7 o'clock, some day in February, I dont know the day; they had got
a load, I don't know what it was; they left their load in the fore room,
and said they'd come again: they enquired for the prisoner and his wife,
and I said they were in bed.
Q. Who did they say they left the
parcel for?
A. Peirce. They did not say they
left it for any body. I went out about my own business, but before that,
I told the prisoner there was two parcels left in the sore room: they
said they would get up directly. His wife came down, he did not then. I
lodged there but about two or three days after.
John Gaul . I live at the Bell
and Green Man: I have known the prisoner about five years, he was a
sea-faring man, and bears a very good character in the neighbourhood.
Benj. Hall. I have known him
some time, and never heard any ill of him.
Thomas Ransom . I have known him
four or five years, and never knew any thing of him but a very quiet
civil neighbour. I am a wheelwright, and make use of an anvil, which was
taken away; but he came and told me a man had brought such a thing to
him to sell, so I had it again.
Daniel Exels . I have known him
very near a year, and have always heard a very good character of him.
William Beaton . I have known
him between two and three years a very civil honest man. I saw a woman
once offer him two or three pint pots, which he thought were stolen, so
would have nothing to do with them.
Guilty.
Summary:
The trials being ended, the court
proceeded to give judgment as follows:
Received sentence of death, 8.
Charles Neal , George Robertson ,
Daniel Tagg , David Berkley , Thomas Morris , Thomas Jones , Nicholas
Lawrence , and John Fish .
Transported for 14 years, 2.
Transported for 7 years, 40.
John Gyles , Thomas Hall , Mary
Whitaker , Thomas Weaver , Thomas Carrol , Mary Brown , James Collings ,
James Hunt , Richard Barton , Mary Smith , Nicholas Ellsey , Mary Horne
, James Dundas , Benjamin Derrit , Sarah Harrison , James Hanson ,
Richard Hill , Elizabeth Swanson , Matthew Davis , William Thackery ,
Elizabeth Blackwell, otherwise Connor, Robert Harris , Charles Cook,
Daniel Peachy , Francis Dunn , Elizabeth Medcalf , James More , Sarah
Russel , John Trow, John Price, Benjamin Paul , Isaac Sheffield ,
Francis Filmore , Jer. Robertson, Archibald Head, Sarah Curtice, John
Bone , Susanna Neal , Frances Peak , John Harper .
Branded, 5.
Mary Ward , Thomas Kew , Richard
Jenkins , Thomas Yates , and John Hide .
Whipp'd, 1.
Mary Smith .
John Smithson to stand on the pilory,
in Cheapside, betwixt the hours of Twelve and One, and lie in prison to
the end of one whole year, and after that give security for his good
behaviour for one year, himself bound in a bond of 200 l. and two
sureties, such as my Lord Mayor, or any justice of the peace shall
approve, in one hundred pounds each.
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John Wingrove
,
theft: simple grand larceny, 04 Dec 1755.
The
Proceedings of the Old Bailey Ref: t17551204-42
50. (L.) John Wingrove
was indicted for stealing 1 metal bell, weighing 55 lb. value 3 l. 14 s.
the property of John Porter , Esq. and Co. Nov. 16.
++ Guilty.
Summary:
The trials being ended, the court
proceeded to give judgement as follows:
Received sentence of death 6. William Rutherford , Thomas Broadhust ,
Daniel Little , Christopher Wade , Richard Jeffreys , and Elizabeth Dove
.
Transported for 14 years 2. John Grierson , and Joseph Finnimore .
Transported for seven years 26. Margaret Cooley , Thomas Davis , John
Clayton , Susannah Stafford , John Peirson, Thomas Barnes, John
Wingrove , John Hipworth , Rachael Marshal , Thomas Lampart ,
Joseph Stevens , Thomas Mullings , Peter Reddy , Ann Stafford , Thomas
Haskins , Judith Couliman , Eleanor Hull , Elizabeth Randal , Elizabeth
K, Elizabeth Delmore , Rebecca Chinnery , John Fugerson, John Weston ,
James Blunt , James Pottle , and John Fowls
To be whip'd 2. Henry Johnson , Sarah Hobey .
To be branded 2. Vannch Johnson, James Dawson .
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There is no definite proof that the John
Wingrove in the above trails are one person.
The last trial disposition seems to coincide with the following
Transportation(s) page 152-153:
Sourcebook-" The King's Passengers to Maryland and
Virginia"
Compiled by Peter Wilson Coldham
Published by Willow Bend Books-Westminster Maryland- in 2000
Page 90
Felons transported from London to Maryland by the
SPEEDWELL, Captain William Camplin, and
MEDITERRANEAN, Captain George Harriot, in April 1741
(from Public Records Office-T53/40/337)
Listed as from Buckinghamshire: Thomas Wingrove
Page 152-153
Felons transported to Maryland by the GREYHOUND by
Captain Alexander Stewart in January 1756 ,arriving
April 1756 (Public Records Office -T1/367/2)
Listed as from London: John Wingrove
Page 247
Felons transported London to Virginia by the JUSTITIA,
Captain Finlay Gray in January 1774
(CLRO-Corporation of London Records Office-Guildhall, London,EC2P- 2EJ ,also Middlesex Bonds)
Listed as being from Surrey: John Wingrove
(noted as being transported for Life)
Page 260
Felons transported from London on the THORNTON,
Captain Finlay Gray, in May 1775
and registered in Anne Arundel County, Maryland records
in July 1775.
(Maryland State Archives- MSA CR 40,516 ff.74-85)
Listed as from Surrey: John Wingrove
Courtesy Michael J
Higgins
Also:
Thoughts on John
the Elder Wingrove
from WINGROVE of London IGI Summary
- William WINGROVE
Christened: 1 Oct 1752 Stepney, St. Mary Whitechapel,
London, England
Father: John WINGROVE
Mother: Ann
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record
- John William WINGROVE
Born: 2 Aug 1745 London, Westminster Par,
London, England
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church
- John William WINGROVE
Spouse: Maria HULDFISH
Marriage: ABT 1770 London, Of Westminster Par, London, England
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church
Marriage: 23 MAR 1809,
Loudoun, Virginia
- John WINGRAUE
Christened: 7 Sep 1652 London, St. Botolph Without Aldgate,
London, England
Father: James WINGRAUE
Mother: Mary
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record
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JAMES WINGROVE, theft with violence : highway robbery, theft with violence : highway robbery, 26th May, 1784.
The Proceedings of the Old Bailey Ref: t17840526-117
- Original Text:
637. JAMES WINGROVE was indicted for feloniously assaulting
William Grove the elder, on the King's highway, on the 9th of May, and putting him in fear and danger of his life, and taking from his person and against his will 2 s. in monies numbered , his monies.
The witnesses examined apart at the request of Mr. Garrow, Prisoner's Council.
WILLIAM GROVE , the elder, sworn.
I was robbed last Saturday three weeks at night, I am sure of that, I was going home with my cart from Hounslow to Hamworth, I live at Shepperton-green; it was about eleven at night, I cannot say justly, but as nigh as I can guess; James Wingrove stopped me on the road, I knew him when he was apprentice.
Court. Then you knew his person perfectly well? - Not just that minute.
Then we will say that a man stopped you on the Hamworth road, about three miles from Hounslow? - I was not quite off the Heath.
Did he overtake you or meet you? - He came achwart the road, met me like, there were three men on horse-back; this James Wingrove clapped a pistol to my breast and demanded my money.
Were you walking or in the cart? - I was sat down in my cart, he damned me, and said make haste, I told him I was lame, I would make all the haste I could; I gave him two shillings, he asked me if that was all I had, I told him I had a few half pence in my waistcoat pocket; then he put his hand over to my left-hand breeches pocket, and he asked me what I had there, I told him I had some parcels of writings, which would do him no good, and he did not take them; he then went away from me.
How were the other two men employed at this time? - They stood at a distance off, they all three rode off together.
What sort of a night was it? - A very clear night.
Was it moon-light? - No, it was not, but the sky was very clear indeed.
You say you did not at the first know that that was the person? - I did not at first in my fright, but I know it was he that robbed me very well, I knew him very
well when we took him, that was the man I know that had my money.
Did you know him at the time of the robbery? - I knew I could know him again.
But you did not know who it was at the time? - No, I did not know then, I was frightened.
How soon after was he taken? - A quarter of an hour was the outside.
Was any body else taken but him? - No, the others rode away.
How was he taken? - Two other men that had been robbed came up and followed him, and told us to follow, and we did; they took this Wingrove, and the others rode away and left us.
Did you see him taken? - Yes, I helped to take him.
What did you pursue with your cart? - Yes, we had not above a mile to go, and we gallopped the cart as fast as we could.
And did you in your cart overtake him on horseback? - They had stopped him, and knocked him off his horse, the other men had, we carried him two miles in the cart afterwards, they would make me carry him.
Mr. Garrow, Prisoner's Council. Are these two gentlemen here, Mr. Grove? - No.
How does that happen? - I do not know.
If they are not here they are not entitled to any of the reward you know? - I do not know.
How long had he been knocked down before you came? - Just that moment.
Which way did they ride after they stopped you? - They rode away for Feltham.
So they rode on so leisurely? - No, No, they did not ride so leisurely.
Who were these two men, let us hear a little about them? - They are not here, they live at Sunbury, one is Humphries and the other Marchant.
What business are they, are not they a sort of moon light men? - It was not moonlight.
Are not they a couple of smugglers? - They may as far as I know.
They go for that they say? - I do not know.
So they told you they had been robbed? - Yes.
Did they attend at the Justice's the next day? - Yes.
Did they give any charge against Mr. Wingrove? - I do not know what you mean by charges.
I believe you do, you are pretty well used to charges; did these two smugglers of your's give any charge against this prisoner? - They are no smugglers of mine.
They are friends of your's? - They are no friends of mine.
Then these two fellows, did they make any charge against Mr. Wingrove for robbing them? - Yes, they did make a charge.
Do not shuffle, Master Grove? - I do not know what you say.
I will make you know directly; upon your oath did not these two men attend the next day at Mr. Taylor's, and say that Wingrove was not one of the men that robbed them? - He is the man that robbed me, I will tell you the truth, he was the man that robbed me, I did not hear them say that he was not the man.
Upon your oath did not they say it? - No, they did not say it, I never heard them say it, that he was not the man that robbed them, I can swear that very safely, I never heard them say any such word as he was not the man.
What did they say about the robbery? - They said he was one of the men in the company.
Is that true that they said he robbed them? - They said he was one in the company.
That they swore? - Yes.
Was he committed for robbing them? - No, he was committed for robbing me.
That is pretty singular you know? - I do not understand the law, I never was in it before.
Who were the two men that robbed you a little while ago? - I never was robbed before.
No, Mr. Grove! - Yes, I have been robbed, but I do not know who they were, and pilfered and too much robbed.
Who were those two men that robbed you? - I do not know.
Have you never said that you knew them? - No, I know nothing about them.
Have you never said that you had been robbed some time ago by two men, that you have never prosecuted them, that they were good friends, and that if you called on them at any time, you could have a guinea of them? - You know, Sir, that is wrong; no, no, Sir, I did not say that I could have money when I pleased, I did not say that I was good friends with the people that robbed me, I swear that I never did say that; they wanted me to screen this here man, and said they would be friends to me; his brother and another man came to me several times.
Court. Did you never say so? - No, never in my life, I never said such a word.
Did you never say such a word? - No.
Mr. Garrow. I will put it now most unequivocally to you, and ask you upon your oath, whether you have never said to Mr. James Clarke by name, that you had been robbed some time since by two men, whom you have not prosecuted, who lived at Brentford; that they were good friends, and that if you called on them at any time, you could have a guinea of them? - No, never in my life; no, no, they mistook, they came to me and wanted me not -
I ask you a plain question; have you ever said that that I have stated to you? - No.
You never have? - No.
You know the Cock at Stains? - Yes, very well.
What conversation have you had about Wingrove there? - I do not know any more than this stick.
You know that it is not every day that one gets forty pounds for hanging a man; had you no conversation at the Cock at Stains about the reward for conviction? - You ask a hundred questions, I will answer you what I know; no, not about no reward, I have been there, and there they have been asking me about it, that is, we drank together, and I said to him, as I might say to you, I do not know any thing about it; I did not say any such thing, I never said any thing about any reward, that I can say, I have said nothing about no reward.
You remember being at Clerkenwell-green last week? - Yes.
Do you remember having any conversation with any body there upon this subject? - No, no more than any body may speak, and I may speak.
What have you said? - I do not know.
You are sure it was of a Saturday night you was robbed? - Yes I am sure.
Did you see the other two men when you came up to the prisoner? - No.
He was the first man that you came up with? - No, no.
Had you passed any man before you came to him? - I passed no man.
He presented his pistol to you? - Are, he did at first.
Did you find any pistol upon him? - No.
Did you find him in company with any other two men? - He was in company then with two men, but when he was taken, they were rode away.
Was he the same man that took the canvas bag from your son? - Yes.
Did you find that bag upon him? - I did not search him.
Was not he searched in your presence? - I saw no bag, I believe there was no bag found upon him, I do not know that there was.
Do you know there was not? - I believe there was not, I do not know.
It was May-day? - Yes.
It was the day the people dance round the may-poles? - Let them dance if they would, I was lame, I could not dance, I saw chimney-sweepers dance.
What, that day? - Very like it might.
Did you or did you not? - I might.
Did you see the milk people going about? - I saw all folks going about.
What makes you recollect it was May-day? - I told you it was last Saturday three weeks ago.
How do you recollect it was May-day? - I do not know whether it was
May-day, I had been in town that day, I had been twice in town before.
What is your business? - Boss-maker and broom-maker.
Was you as drunk that night as you are now, how much have you been drinking to-day? - I might drink a pint with my victuals, I will not swear any thing about it.
How much gin? - I drank no gin.
What other spirits? - I do not love any other spirits, so you are not right there now.
Did you go to the place where this man was knocked down the next morning? - Yes I did, to find his pistol or something or another, I found nothing.
Did you find your two shillings? - I wish I had.
Forty pounds is better than two shillings? - No, I do not know that it is, upon a wrong cause.
When you came up to him you knew it was James Wingrove ? - I know he was the man that robbed me.
Did you know, I say, whether it was James Wingrove ? - I know it was the man that robbed me.
Court. That is not an answer, what did you say? - I did not know that it was him, I soon found out it was James Wingrove , I found it out going along upon the road.
When did you first find it was James Wingrove ? - I would not believe it was him at first.
Court. Did he first tell you his name was James Wingrove ? - No, he did not, he told me he knew us, and I said, I know you too, then I knew him when he was carrying along the road, I would not believe it was James Wingrove , because though I thought he was, I was not quite sure he was; he said he was James Wingrove , and I could hardly believe him.
What did you say when you went before Mr. Taylor the magistrate? - I said how that was the man that robbed me.
Before you went there, had you told any body you did not know him? - No, I can swear that v ery safely.
In the course of the day that you went before the magistrate did you? - No, that I did not say any such thing, I never said any such thing.
Did you always say that you had lost two shillings? - Yes, I said I did not know whether it was a shilling and a guinea at first, till I came to look at my money.
Was not it your doubt whether it was not a halfpenny? - No, it was not.
Had you a guinea in your pocket to lose? - No.
Then how could you doubt it if you had not a guinea to lose? - No.
How could you doubt it? - Not till I looked over my money.
Court. Had you a guinea in your bag that day? - Yes, I had, I did not know justly, till I came to consult where I had taken money.
Then you never did tell any body, that you did not know what you had lost, or that you did not know if it was a halfpenny? - I never said that.
WILLIAM GROVE , the younger, sworn.
I am son to William Grove , the elder, I was with my father when he was robbed, it was last Saturday night three weeks.
Where? - In Hamworth parish, just as you go off the Heath.
What time of night was it? - Nigh about eleven o'clock.
How many men robbed you? - One.
Did he meet you or overtake you? - He overtook us.
Was he on horseback? - On horseback, I was upon a horse driving the team, and my father was in the cart; the man on horseback overtook me, he asked me where that road went to, I told him, and he asked me how far it was to Chertsey, and I told him about six miles, and he asked me what money I had, he took hold of my horse's bridle, and put a pistol up to my cheek, and I told him I had none; he said I had, and I said I had nothing but a note in my pocket, and I took it out.
Did he do any thing to your father? - He then went away from me and went to my father.
What did he say or do to your father? - He asked him for his money.
What did your father say? - He told him he had but two shillings in his pocket, and he took it and went away.
What did he do with the pistol after he robbed you? - I do not know, I never saw any more of it after he put it to my check.
Did he take any thing from you? - Yes, Sir, a note in a purse.
What note was it? - It was of no account, it was only a bill of parcels of some cheese which I had in my cart.
Was it a moon-light night? - It was not dark, but it was not moon-light.
After he had left you and left your father which way did he ride? - He rode to the back part of the cart, away from me behind.
He rode the opposite way then to what you were going? - Yes.
I suppose you were frightened at the pistol, that made you let one man rob you? - I do not know I was frightened, it was an ugly tool to be frightened with; there were two more with him.
How came you to forget that till now? - I have mentioned it now.
How happened you did not mention it before? - This is the man that robbed me; I mentioned it to Mr. Taylor, the Justice, that there were two more men.
How did these two men employ themselves while the other was robbing you? - One stood at the tail of the cart, and the other stood at the head of the fore horse.
Did the man at the tail of the cart do or say any thing while this man was robbing you both? - No, Sir, nothing at all.
Stood looking on? - Yes; this man ordered the man that stood foremost to go and take what my father had, but he did not take it, and the other went round immediately and took it himself.
Who was this man that robbed you? - James Wingrove .
Did you know that at the time? - No, Sir, I did not, in the morning I knew it was him, we took him directly afterwards.
Then you did not know it that night? - No, Sir, I heard the people say so.
Who said so? - I do not know their names.
Did your father tell you that night that it was James Wingrove ? - No.
Nor any body else? - No.
Was he the first that told you the next morning it was James Wingrove ? - No.
Then in fact you only heard the name of the man that was in custody was James Wingrove ? - Yes.
Your father knew no more about it than you did? - I knew him no otherwise.
Did your father know him any otherwise? - I do not know; he was taken in a quarter of an hour by Mr. Humfreys and Mr. Marchant; they all three came by me again, and followed the cart, and got before me.
All three? - They were all together when they came by me again.
Were they together when this man was taken? - Yes.
Did the other two make any resistance? - I was not there just at the present.
If they were all together when this man was taken, what became of the other two? - They made their escape.
Then this man was not found alone, the other two had not rode off and left him in the lurch? - No.
Then the first thing your father said to him was, that he had but two shillings in his pocket? - Yes.
He told them that before he took the money? - Yes, he told them he was but a poor man, and had but two shillings.
Mr. Garrow. How many horses had you in the team? - I had two drawing the cart, and one I rode.
Had these people passed you the second time before Humfreys and the other gentleman came up? - Humfreys came by me before this.
I suppose the reason they got off sooner than you, you was heavy laden? - I
gallopped
as hard as I could, and the cart too.
It was a cart with a tail? - Yes, about ten hundred weight.
Was you with your father when he was robbed some short time ago? - No, not as I know on.
Did you never tell any body it was Sunday night? - No.
Did you never say it was on May-day? - No.
Did you never say it was the 9th? - No.
What coloured clothes are you to have out of the reward of forty pounds? - I am to have no clothes.
Did not your father promise you a suit of new clothes if you would stick to him? - I never heard any such word.
Who told you it would be better to have two indictments against this man, in case one should fail? - Nobody.
Mr. Garrow. Go and sit down by your father, and do not either of you go out of Court.
PRISONER's DEFENCE.
I never saw them at all till they came up to me, when the people had knocked me off my horse; and these people came up to me, and this man stamped on my head, and said he would butcher me, and said damn his eyes, kill him.
FRANCIS NASMITH sworn.
I am a watch-maker at Staines; I was present when these people went to be examined, and I heard a man come up to the prosecutor and ask him what he was robbed of; and he said it might be a guinea, or a shilling, or it might be two halfpence, he was not sure; and he said he did not know that that was the man: he said he was robbed, but he was not positive that that was the man that robbed him.
JAMES CLARKE sworn.
I am a printer by trade, I live in Oxford-street; last Sunday was a fortnight Richard Wingrove came to me, and in consequence of his information I saw Groves, and we entered into conversation respecting the robbery, and during that conversation he informed me that this was not the first time that he had been robbed; that he had been robbed by two men whom he knew, he said these two men were great master carpenters, and lived at Brentford, and he could go to them at any time, be well entertained, and have two or three guineas: if I was dying, them are the words. I never knew any thing amiss of the prisoner; I always understood him as an honest man.
FREDERICK DISMERRITT , Esq; sworn.
I am son of Colonel Dismerritt , the prisoner was a servant of our's at the time this robbery was said to be committed; about a week before he said he was going to Windfor to see his wife and family; he has two children at Windsor, and one with his mother; he was a true, faithful, honest servant with us; he was entrusted with every thing, even the keys to go to my father's bureau.
Mr. Garrow. After this, my Lord, I shall not go further; I only did it to set the character of this man right; I do not do it to meet this indictment.
SUSAN FLETCHER sworn.
I live at Uxbridge, I chare at Colonel Dismerrit 's, I heard old Groves say last Friday, that he had taken a highwayman, and there was forty pounds depending, and that he would prosecute him.
NOT GUILTY .
Mr. Garrow. I have two applications to make to the Court; one, that the constable may restore the prisoner's watch, and the other, that these two witnesses, the father and son, may be both committed to Newgate; I think it my duty to ask this, as it is a very foul perjury, and I will undertake to prosecute them at my own expence.
Court. Let Groves the elder and younger be both committed to Newgate till they find sureties.
See original Groves the Elder. This is very hard, my Lord, to lose my money and go to prison too.
638. The said JAMES WINGROVE was again indicted for feloniously assaulting William Grove the younger, on the King's highway, on the 9th day of May last, and putting him in fear and danger of his life, and feloniously taking from his person and against his will one canvas bag, value 1 d. his property.
There being no further evidence, the prisoner was ACQUITTED .
Mr. Garrow. My Lord, we decline for the present prosecuting these men for perjury, and I am humbly to pray for a copy of the indictment.
Court to William Grove the elder and younger. The conduct of each of you in this cause has been extremely reprehensible, the best light in which your conduct can stand is, that of rashly charging a man in a case where there is a reward; and you may think yourselves very fortunate that the prisoner and his friends decline an immediate prosecution for perjury; therefore, I shall not order you to be detained, but leave the prisoner to take such remedy as his Council shall advise; and if it is applied for, I shall order a copy of the indictment.
Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.
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JAMES WINGROVE, theft : burglary, 12th September, 1798.
The Proceedings of the Old Bailey Ref: t17980912-43
- Original Text:
509. JAMES WINGROVE was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of
Thomas Lawrence , about the hour of twelve in the night of the 2d of October, with intent the goods therein being to steal, and stealing a wooden cask, containing nine gallons of gin, value 3l. 3s. another wooden cask, containing six gallons of a certain compound liquor, called ox-moor, value 42s. and thirty glass bottles, filled with port wine, value 3l. the property of the said Thomas .
(The case was opened by Mr. Knowlys.)
THOMAS LAWRENCE sworn. - On the 22d of October, 1795, I kept the Crown and Anchor, in Staines , I was the last person up that night, I left the house properly secured, and about six in the morning I was alarmed and told my house had been robbed; it was then day break, but not very light, my servant could not get down the stair-case; I came down, I missed three dozen of hampers of wine, I had taken out two bottles the day before, and there were only six bottles left in the hamper; I missed a cask of gin, containing nine gallons, and a tub of ox-moor, a compound, containing six gallons; they had been taken from the cellar next the stable-yard.
Q. Could you at all form a judgement how the people had got in? - A. Yes; they had taken out two bars from the cellar-window.
Q. Were they upright, or across? - A. Upright.
Q. Did you know the prisoner, Wingrove? - A. Yes; he lived about two hundred yards from me in the town of Staines. After they had got into the cellar, they broke the cellar-door, and had the range of the house; they had bored a gimblet over the latch of the door, to prevent any body coming down in case of an alarm; they afterwards opened the yard-door that went into the stable-yard from the passage of the dwelling-house, to
get the tubs out, for they were too large to get out at the cellar window, where they had broke in: the next morning I applied for a search-warrant, but it was near six in the evening before I served the warrant upon the witness, Clarke; I was present when his house was searched; we found there one dozen of wine; we found nothing else there; I found a tub of gin and a tub of ox-moor buried in the aits, a little island in the Thames; I never saw Wingrove after that, we searched after him several times, but he never appeared in Staines afterwards to my knowledge.
WILLIAM GOLDSMITH sworn. - Examined by Mr. Knowlys. I am a labourer: In October, 1795, I lived in Staines, about 300 yards from Mr. Lawrence's house; I have known the prisoner these thirteen years; I saw him and another come out of Mr. Lawrence's passage with bottles in his hands between one and two o'clock in the morning, I cannot tell who the other man was; they both crossed the road, and went up the back side of Middle-row, towards Clark's house, with the liquor.
Q. Do you mean that Clark who was admitted King's evidence? - A. Yes.
Q. Are you sure it was Wingrove? - A. I took particular notice of him.
Q. When did you hear that Mr. Lawrence had been robbed? - A. About ten o'clock the next day, and then I went and told Mr. Lawrence of it.
Q. Have you seen Wingrove since? - A. Yes, I saw him one night at Staines, I suppose a twelvemonth ago, or not quite so much, he was leaning over some rails in Staines, but I did not know it was him at the time I saw him, I have heard that he has been there several times.
Cross-examined by Mr. Alley. Q. This robbery was near three years ago? - A. Yes.
Q. What time in the night was it you saw him? - A. Between one and two in the morning.
Q. How came you up at that time? - A. I went to bed very soon, and I was very thirsty, I could not find any water in the house, and I took a pitcher to go out to get some water, but I could not get any, and then I saw him.
Q. You lived in Staines, and not know where to get water? - A. I went to the Angel and Crown, but the yard was shut up.
Q. Had you ever gone out for water in the night before? - A. Yes, several times.
Q. Where had you been spending your evening? - A. I was in bed by nine o'clock.
Q. Then of course you went to bed sober? - A. Yes.
Q. You saw him a twelvemonth ago, and did not know him? - A. He was leaning over the rail, I did not see his face.
Q. Do you mean to say your memory improves in the course of a year - Do you mean to say now that you know the prisoner? - A. I did not see his face then.
Q. You were not a witness upon the former trial? - A. No.
Q. Though you saw a part of the transaction, you were not called as a witness upon that trial? - A. The prisoner was not then taken.
Q. Did you ever hear of a reward for a burglary? - A. I have never had any reward.
Q. You never heard there was a reward of 40l. in that case? - A. Yes, I have.
Mr. Knowlys. Q. Knotts was the man who was convicted of this offence before? - A. Yes.
Q. You saw nothing of Knotts, and therefore they did not make you a witness upon that trial? - A. No.
Q. Have you ever seen the prisoner about his ordinary business from that time to this, in Staines? - A. No.
SAMUEL CLARK , the accomplice, sworn. - Examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q. I lived in Middle-row, Staines, when Mr. Lawrence's house was broke open; the prisoner, Wingrove, and Knotts, were concerned with me in breaking the house open, about one o'clock in the night; we broke the cellar door open by pulling the bars down; we took out some wine in bottles, and two tubs of liquor; we carried them all down to Knott's house, and there we parted the liquor, the tubs we carried over the water into the aits; Knott's house was close to the water side, about two hundred yards from my house.
Q. When you had parted the liquor, what did you do with it? - A. They carried theirs to their house, and I carried mine to my house; Wingrove's house was about one hundred yards from my house.
Q. How many bottles had you? - A. Ten or eleven, I think.
Q. How long was it before you were taken up for this? - A. The Friday afternoon, the next day.
Q. What became of Wingrove? - A. He ran away.
Q. Where did he live? - A. In the George-yard, Staines.
Q. Has he ever been living publickly in Staines since the robbery was found out, till this time? - A. No.
Q. What time did you quit the house? - A. About two o'clock.
Cross-examined by Mr. Alley. Q. You were one of the gentlemen that broke into the prosecutor's house? - A. Yes.
Q. And you were taken up the next day? - A. Yes.
See original Q. And then you thought it was the best way to charge the prisoner and another man with robbing the house, in order to escape yourself? - A. Yes.
Q. That is no new trick, you know? - A. I did not know that.
Q. You have told us the things were taken to Knott's house? - A. Yes.
Q. Are you sure they were carried to Knott's house? - A. Yes.
Q. Then if any body says they were carried to Clark's house, they have not told the truth? - A. I carried my share home, but they were taken to Knott's house first and shared.
Q. Then if any body else has said the things were carried to your house in Middle-row, it is not true? - A. I cannot tell that.
Q. What time were you kind enough to break into this honest man's house? - A. About one o'clock.
Q. How long might you be in the house? - A. About an hour, not much more.
Q. You went in about one o'clock? - A. Yes, and left the house between two and three o'clock.
Q. Then you could not possibly have come out of the house till after two o'clock? - A. No.
Q. Then if any body else has said you came out at half past one o'clock, that cannot be true? - A. No.
Q. You were taken up the evening of the next day? - A. Yes.
Q. You prosecuted another man? - A. Yes.
Q. Did you get any share of the reward? - A. No.
Q. But you got your liberty? - A. Yes.
Q. I take it for granted you have been a reformed man and lived a good life ever since? - A. Yes, as far as I know.
Q. Where have you lived since that time? - A. At Staines.
Q. Have you ever known any body of the names of Drake and Aldridge? - A. Yes.
Q. What is become of Aldridge? - A. He is dead; Drake lives at staines.
Q. Did not you give evidence here against them too? - A. Yes.
Q. I thought you had reformed since that? - A. I was in confinement.
Mr. Knowlys. Q. Were you examined in that case as in this, as King's evidence? - A. Yes.
Mr. Knowlys.(To Lawrence.)Q. What is the value of these things? - A. The gin I valued at 3l. the wine at three guineas, and the oxmoor at two guineas.
Prisoner's defence. That man would swear any man's life away as he did the other man's; I have been at Staines for a week and a fortnight together, and nobody ever said any thing to me, or took any notice of me.
GUILTY Death . (Aged 51.)
Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before The LORD CHIEF BARON.
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JOHN WINGROVE, theft : pick pocketing, 16th September, 1824
1294. JOHN WINGROVE was indicted for stealing, on the 23d of July, a watch chain, value 1 s., and two keys, value 4 d., the goods of
James Hill , from his person .
JAMES HILL . I am servant to Mr. Levy, who is an officer to the Sheriff of Middlesex. On the 23d of July, about half-past ten o'clock in the evening, I was turning up Jewin-street, and at a place called Redcross-square the prisoner came up, and snatched at my watch - I did not see him till he took it; my fob was twisted; the ring broke, and he got the chain. I sung out Stop thief! and he was taken a few yards off, without my losing sight of him, as there are three gas-lights there. - I am sure of him.
JAMES GREEN . I am a printer. I was in Redcross-square, heard Hill cry out, and seized the prisoner five or six yards from him, endeavouring to escape.
THOMAS TURNER . I was in the square, and saw the prisoner and the prosecutor - there was a cry of Stop thief! the prisoner ran towards me. Green came up and stopped him. I took him to the watch-house - nothing was found upon him, but as he ran I thought I saw him throw something away, and next morning some workmen gave me the watch-chain.
(Property produced and sworn to.)
JOHN LOVELL . I am an officer. The prisoner was brought to the watch-house, and next morning I received the chain and seal from Turner.
Prisoner's Defence. I was going to meet a young man, and being late I was running; there was an alarm, and two men stopped me. Two or three men ran by me as hard as they could.
GUILTY . Aged 17.
Transported for Seven Years .
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GEORGE WINGROVE, theft : simple grand larceny, 17th February, 1831.
The Proceedings of the Old Bailey Ref: t18310217-163
- Original Text:
OLD COURT. TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 22.
First London Jury, before Mr. Recorder.
590. GEORGE WINGROVE was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of February, 1 tub, value 2s.; and 112lbs. of white lead, value 30s., the goods of
James Crease and another .
CHARLES WHITAKER . I live in Maidenhead-court, Aldersgate-street, with my father, who is an auctioneer's porter. On Thursday evening last, about a quarter to seven o'clock, I saw the prisoner at Mr. Crease' door, in Smithfield, with two other men - I saw one of the other men help a tub of white lead on the prisoner's shoulder, just at the end of the rails outside the shop - the prisoner ran away across Smithfield with it, and the others went a different way - I went into the shop, and told what I had seen; I and Crease's man went after the prisoner - I did not see him stopped; I saw him afterwards, and am certain he is the man I saw run away with the cask - he was brought back with it; I saw him before the Alderman next day, and was certain of him then.
BENJAMIN CATMULL . I am a constable. I was going through Smithfield on Thursday evening, about a quarter to seven o'clock - the prisoner passed me with a keg on his back; I suspected something wrong, and followed him; he crossed from Crease' shop, and was about seventy yards from it; I followed him into Bartholomew-close, and while I was watching where he was going, Welch came running up with Whitaker, and in consequence of what he said I secured the prisoner, without losing sight of him - Welch claimed the keg as his master's I am sure I never lost sight of him.
Prisoner. That is false, he did.
STEPHEN WELCH . I am in the employ of James and Orlando Crease , oilmen, of Smithfield; there are no other partners. I had seen this cask of white lead about a quarter of an hour before the alarm; it was on the pavement at the door, and had just been brought out of a cart - Whitaker gave an alarm; I went out with him, and saw the prisoner through Cloth-fair; I stopped him in Barley Mow-passage - Catmull, who was looking after him in Cloth-fair, had asked me what was the matter; I took hold of the keg on his shoulder, and Catmull seized him; I have no doubt of the keg - it is here, and contains white lead: there was no mark on it; I missed one from the door when the boy gave the alarm, and I had seen it a quarter of an hour before - there had been eight at the door.
CHARLES WHITAKER . I saw the prisoner with the keg when I went into Cloth-fair, which was not more than five minutes after I saw him take it from the door.
Prisoner's Defence. I was going along Smithfield, five hundred yards from the house; a man came up, asked me to carry this to Barbican, and he would satisfy me - this man came up, and said, "You have my property," and gave me in charge; the officer asked if he was sure it was his; he said he did not know that it was, and at the Compter he said it was not his.
STEPHEN WELCH . I never said it was not my master's - I attended before the Magistrate, but I could not swear to it, as I did not see it taken from the door.
GUILTY . Aged 21. - Transported for Seven Years .
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- GEORGE WINGROVE, theft : simple grand larceny, 10th September, 1829.
The Proceedings of the Old Bailey Ref: t18290910-212
- Original Text:
1748. GEORGE WINGROVE was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of June, 2 hearth-rugs, value 60s. , the goods of
Samuel Hollingsworth .
MR. PRENDERGAST conducted the prosecution.
THOMAS BEESTON . I have an hearth-rug pawned at Mr. Jones, Broad-street, Bloomsbury, on the 1st of June, I have every reason to believe by the prisoner - he answers the description of the person.
JOSEPH LYALL . I am shopman to Mr. Aldridge, pawnbroker. I have an hearth-rug pawned for 9s., on the 1st of June, to the best of my recollection, by the prisoner.
GEORGE HEDWORTH . I am a constable. I took the prisoner at Petersham, near Kingston, on the 2nd of September.
ANN HEATH . The prisoner and his wife lodged near me in Paine-street, White Conduit-fields; I do not recollect when I saw him last, but his wife came to me one day, the officer came the same day, and I saw the prisoner come from his own house, and go to the bottom of the street; it was some time in August, the day we appeared at Hatton-garden.
SAMUEL HOLLINGSWORTH . The prisoner lived as a porter with me, at No. 6, Bedford-street, Bedford-row - he left me about the end of April; his wife was taken on the 30th of July - these two rugs are mine, and were part of my stock; I never sold any thing to him.
Prisoner. Q. Were there not other persons in your employ about my height, who used to frequent your shop when you were out? A. I never heard of any person coming to my shop in my absence, except you and your wife.
Prisoner's Defence. I am entirely innocent of taking the rugs, nor did I ever pawn them. (See the case of Thomas Hollingsworth , page 826.)
GUILTY . Aged 32.
Transported for Seven Years .
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CATHERINE WINGROVE, theft : specified place, 10th September, 1829.
The Proceedings of the Old Bailey Ref: t18290910-301
Not Guilty
- Original Text:
1831. CATHERINE WINGROVE was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of May, 80 yards of carpet, value 14l., and 15 yards of oil-cloth, value 2l., the goods of Samuel Hollingsworth , in his dwelling-house .
SAMUEL HOLLINGSWORTH . I live in Bedford-street, Bedford-row. I have lost a quantity of property, carpets, and rugs - the prisoner's husband was our porter, and lived in the house, but he had left when this property was taken - I never saw the prisoner there; the property must have been taken through the connivance of my son, who, as well as my porter, have both been convicted.
NOT GUILTY .
GEORGE WINGROVE, theft : simple grand larceny, 17th February, 1831.
Other trials on 17 Feb 1831
OLD COURT. TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 22.
First London Jury, before Mr. Recorder.
590. GEORGE WINGROVE was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of February, 1 tub, value 2s.; and 112lbs. of white lead, value 30s., the goods of James Crease and another .
CHARLES WHITAKER . I live in Maidenhead-court, Aldersgate-street, with my father, who is an auctioneer's porter. On Thursday evening last, about a quarter to seven o'clock, I saw the prisoner at Mr. Crease' door, in Smithfield, with two other men - I saw one of the other men help a tub of white lead on the prisoner's shoulder, just at the end of the rails outside the shop - the prisoner ran away across Smithfield with it, and the others went a different way - I went into the shop, and told what I had seen; I and Crease's man went after the prisoner - I did not see him stopped; I saw him afterwards, and am certain he is the man I saw run away with the cask - he was brought back with it; I saw him before the Alderman next day, and was certain of him then.
BENJAMIN CATMULL . I am a constable. I was going through Smithfield on Thursday evening, about a quarter to seven o'clock - the prisoner passed me with a keg on his back; I suspected something wrong, and followed him; he crossed from Crease' shop, and was about seventy yards from it; I followed him into Bartholomew-close, and while I was watching where he was going, Welch came running up with Whitaker, and in consequence of what he said I secured the prisoner, without losing sight of him - Welch claimed the keg as his master's I am sure I never lost sight of him.
Prisoner. That is false, he did.
STEPHEN WELCH . I am in the employ of James and Orlando Crease , oilmen, of Smithfield; there are no other partners. I had seen this cask of white lead about a quarter of an hour before the alarm; it was on the pavement at the door, and had just been brought out of a cart - Whitaker gave an alarm; I went out with him, and saw the prisoner through Cloth-fair; I stopped him in Barley Mow-passage - Catmull, who was looking after him in Cloth-fair, had asked me what was the matter; I took hold of the keg on his shoulder, and Catmull seized him; I have no doubt of the keg - it is here, and contains white lead: there was no mark on it; I missed one from the door when the boy gave the alarm, and I had seen it a quarter of an hour before - there had been eight at the door.
CHARLES WHITAKER . I saw the prisoner with the keg when I went into Cloth-fair, which was not more than five minutes after I saw him take it from the door.
Prisoner's Defence. I was going along Smithfield, five hundred yards from the house; a man came up, asked me to carry this to Barbican, and he would satisfy me - this man came up, and said, "You have my property," and gave me in charge; the officer asked if he was sure it was his; he said he did not know that it was, and at the Compter he said it was not his.
STEPHEN WELCH . I never said it was not my master's - I attended before the Magistrate, but I could not swear to it, as I did not see it taken from the door.
GUILTY . Aged 21. - Transported for Seven Years .
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MARIA OLDFIELD, theft : simple grand larceny, 18th October, 1832
2325. MARIA OLDFIELD was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of September, 1 sheet, value 18d., and 1 shawl, value 2s. , the goods of
Henry Thomas Wingrove Clover .
MARGARET CLOVER. I am the wife of Henry Thomas Wingrove Clover ; we live in Princes-street, Red Lion-square - the prisoner was our servant, and left about the 10th of September. I missed a shawl, a sheet, and some caps.
WILLIAM SHEEHY (Police-constable S 74.) I apprehended the prisoner in a room in Portpool-lane, on the 24th of September; I took her to the office - she owned she had left the sheet at home; I went back, and the woman in the house gave me a sheet.
GEORGE CHAPMAN . I live with Mr. Nicholas, a pawnbroker. I have a shawl, pawned on the 18th of September, by the prisoner.(Property produced and sworn to.)
Prisoner's Defence. My mistress lent me the shawl, and told me to get it out in a day or two; the parish was paying me some money, but when I went for the money, it was stopped; I told my mistress I was under the doctor's hands, and was very much distressed; the sheet I took home to wash.
MRS. CLOVER. I never lent her the shawl, and did not know she had it, or the sheet; she was not well - she was with me twelve months - I believe she was 6s. 6d. in my debt; she went away pennyless, I believe.
GUILTY. Aged 31.
Recommended to Mercy . - Confined Seven Days .
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