James McLain

  General Notes:

To: carlos30@primary.net, dcoats@jps.net, ESTT02A@prodigy.com,
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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:50:35 +0000
Subject: Re: James McLain
X-Mailer: Juno 1.49
From: footprints@juno.com (Don P Wright)

Carlos.... No doubt the daughters were found on the 1830 Bond Co, IL
census. It indicates two daughters that I did not list. One of these
would have been Elizabeth and the other would have been Mary. Notice
that there is also one daughter at age 0-5, and I have heard no mention
of her in anyones records (other than mine).

1830 Bond Co., IL Census

James McClain 1-0-3-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0 /1-0-0-1-1-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0

Males Females
---------- 60-70 Rebecca This could be Rebecca, b. 1781
James 50-60 ------------ This could be James, b. 1781
--------- 20-30 daughter This could be Elizabeth, b. 1806
--------- 15-20 daughter This could be Mary, b. 1812
son 10-15 ----------- This could be David, b. 1830
son 10-15 ----------- This could be Joseph, b. 1817
son 10-15 ----------- This could be Jams Jr, b. 1818
son 0-5 daughter This could be Sidney Ann, b. 1823

For those that was wondering about Sidney Ann, I still don't know how I
came about the name and date of birth. However, she does fit the census.

Jacob McClain and John McClain were listed as head of househods on their
owen census records, just above that of James.

As for the difference in James and Rebecca's age, it is possible that the
month of the census record would put them in different age groups even
though they were born in the same year. Just a thought.

According to ages and dates of birth, there is a possibility of daughters
before Elizabeth, born between 1800 and 1805. The sons are all accounted
for, but it would leave 2 daughtes missing that no doubt had already
married by the time of the 1830 census. (considering that there were 5
sons and 5 daughters)

Listed between John and James on the Census was Mary Borracan. Since the
families were all to gether, I wondered if she was related.... She was
40-50 years old, had a daughter 10 to 15 and as son 15 to 20 years old.

I still have to go over all the notes I received last night. There are a
lot of entries that I have to make and a few I have to correct.

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From: Ddbluchris <Ddbluchris@aol.com>
To: footprints@juno.com
Subject: Re: McLain Census - Illinois
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 20:12:10 EDT
Message-ID: <40cf3b67.355b885e@aol.com>


Your Bond Co Census returns came from the 1830 (not 1840) Bond Co., IL,
returns submitted for certification on 26 Nov 1830. I didn't have any
daughters noted for John, however - just John & his wife. I also had
James Sr in the 30-40 range instead of 50-60. I can't find my original notes -
just where I'd transcribed it onto my computer. Will need to go back & verify
the entries. I feel sure this is the James, Jacob & John of our family
however.
I made this entry in my family notes: "Bond Co., IL, was formed from
area ceded by the Indians and was initially adjacent to Jefferson Co., Later
subdivisions formed the counties of Bond, Fayette, Marion, and Jefferson.
It's known that the McClain's were in Illinois as early as 1833 when
David married Minerva in Marion Co., followed by Joe & Sarah in 1836. Although
there are some discrepancies, it would appear that this is our McClain
family.
James McClain, John McClain, and Jacob McClain are on the same page.
James and Jacob are together again on the 1840 Census but John isn't. Pending
further verification, I'll make the assumption Jacob and John are the
sons of James. The ages posted for the oldest male and female in the family
listed for James McClain aren't correct, but the other info tends to support the
assumption....While James' age is close (i.e. 49), it's hard to determine
where Rebecca falls as she and James were close to the same age. It also
leads to the assumption that there was another son (born 1825-1830) and,
either 2 daughters and mother/mother-in-law, or 3 daughters and a mistake
in entry for Rebecca's age. These previously unknown children may have died
or been married and out of the household by later censuses." I also made
the assumption that John McClain had died by the 1840 Census. James & family
has moved into Jefferson Co., IL, by the 1840 census -
Jefferson Co., IL - Submitted for certification on 23 Oct 1840. pg 304.
Joel McLean - 1 0 0 0 1/1 0 0 1
David McLean - 1 1 0 0 1/1 0 0 0 1
James McLean Senr - 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1/0 0 0 1 0 0 1
N Wiggington - 2 1 0 0 0 0 1/1 1 2 0 1
James McLean - 0 0 0 0 1/0 0 0 0 1

pg 309
Jacob McLean - 2 2 0 0 0 1/0 0 0 0 0 1. (Jacob's 3 daughters listed in
the 1830 Census appear to have either died or married & left the household)

Hope this helps - then again it may further confuse things.

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James married Rebecca Cucklereese on 8 Apr 1801 in Orange Co., NC.¹ (Rebecca Cucklereese was born on 20 Feb 1781 in NC ^{1 2} and died on 16 Jun 1855 in Jefferson Co., IL ¹.)