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VINES HAPLOTYPES

TEST RESULTS May 2006

WILTS-1
    Exact 25/25 Matches have been found in 4 male Vines in UK and Australia and in a male named Mingia in North Carolina, where people of that name and Vines have been since before 1700AD. There has apparently been an unrecorded interfamily relationship there at some time in the 1800s. This genetic line is descended fom Vines originating in northern Wiltshire.
The haplotype falls within  Haplogroup N which is commonest in Northern Europe and Asia, from Mongolia to Finland, and includes native Siberians.
 

Locus
#
393
390
19
394
391
385a
385b
426
388
439
389
(1)
392
389
(2)
458
459a
459b
455
454
447
437
448
449
464a
464b
464c
464d
Allele
14
23
14
11
11
13
11
12
10
14
14
30
17
9
9
11
12
25
14
19
29
14
14
14
14

Toadvine-1
    Two matches with a single one step mutation at Marker 449 were found in America. The haplotype is named for a small village near Birmingham, Alabama, where there has been a significant grouping of Vines in the past. This line is descended from a German immigrant named Lipps (or similar) in the 1700s in North Carolina, whose widow remarried to a Vines and her children then adopted her new name.
This haplotype comes into the R1b Haplogroup which is commonest in Western Europe, particularly along the Atlantic coasts.

Mutations

      Johannes Lips c1730
  __________|__________
  |                                        |
      John L c1754                       Thomas V c1778
                  |__                        ______|________
                  |                           |                             |

Y Chromosome Testee            Roger L                Joe V                       Ed V
 All markers matched except DYS437 =   14                                 =15                                 =15
                                        and DYS449 =   30                                 =31                                 =30
                                                                                              Toadvine1b               Toadvine1a

A mutation in DYS437 occurred in either Roger Lipps line or the Vines lines but this need not concern us as Joe and Ed Vines matched 15-15.
Because Roger and Ed matched 30-30 at DYS449 while Joe showed 31, a mutation occurred  in Joe's line after Thomas was born. Thus Ed's is the older line so we will call Ed's DNA results the Toadvine1a Haplotype and Joe's DNA the Toadvine1b Haplotype.
 
 

Toadvine1 Haplotypes a and b

Locus
#
Hap
393
390
19
394
391
385
a
385
b
426
388
439
389
(1)
392
389
(2)
458
459
a
459
b
455
454
447
437
448
449
464
a
464
b
464
c
464
d
Ed V
1a
13
24
14
11
11
11
12
12
11
13
13
30
16
9
10
11
11
25
15
19
30
16
16
17
17
Joe V
1b
13
24
14
11
11
11
12
12
11
13
13
30
16
9
10
11
11
25
15
19
31
16
16
17
17

Note the mutation at DYS449 from 30 to 31 which will differentiate future carriers of these two Vines Lines.

One participant from Louisiana  was tested but only at 12 markers. The haplotype is not defined sufficiently, though it showed that it did not match any of the others participants.