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A Vines Connection found in North Carolina

With the results of Y chromosome tests for Fred and Ron of OZ and Arthur and Frank of UK (all Wilts. family line) came the information that we also had a perfect match with Samuel Leland Mingia of Nth Carolina. At first I accepted the FTDNA advice that "matches with dissimilar surnames are probably not related", explained by converging mutations from quite different DNA origins.

In correspondence with Joanne Burch of Nth Carolina, who had commissioned the DNA test on her brother Sam, I learnt that the "Mingas" family had been in North America since the 1600s and that her lineage was traceable for a greater part of that time to residence in Halifax county, North Carolina, though with some puzzling problems in the documentation.

 Out of curiosity I checked for the occurrence of the Vines surname in the 1880 US census in several of the southern US states. Alabama had several hundred, many of whom were black and descendants of slaves on Vines and other plantations. The older southern states, Virginia, Georgia and North and South Carolina also recorded many white Vines though in lesser numbers. The closest counties in NC to Halifax, which recorded Vines were Edgecombe and Martin, both with common boundaries to Halifax. From this fact I concluded it likely that Mingas and Vines had been in contact during the past 300 years and that a relationship could have occurred; Confucius, he say "Propinquity is basis for hanky panky!" 

This is the closest evidence I have found to migration of the Wiltshire Vines line to North America during the 1600s or 1700s. It is well known that a Richard Vines from Devon was an early settler in what is now the state of Maine, and acted as agent for Sir Ferdinando Gorges, who had obtained the grant under King James I. When another claimant disputed the proprietorship of the land grant in the 1640s under the Cromwellian parliament Vines resigned and about 1645 became a planter in Barbados, where he died in 1651. It is possible that some of his descendants later moved to America. Of course there may have been other Vines migrants to the New World.

A program is planned to follow up the unexpected finding of Wiltshire Vines DNA in this Mingia line. Further proof of a Vines/Mingia relationship would come if we happen to detect Wiltshire DNA in a Vines descendant of one of the early settlers in NC. Tests on other Mingia people would allow the irregularity in Sam Mingia's pedigree to be pinpointed.