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1. Marie Jeanne TOUSSAINT

2. Marie BOUTET


  • Born: Abt 1643, France
  • Marriage (1): Marie Jeanne TOUSSAINT about 1672 in Prob Cap, Quebec
  • Marriage (2): Marie BOUTET after 1708
  • Died: 26 Jan 1728, Champlain, Quebec about age 85

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Noel Carpentier dit Larose.

Probably from Thomas LaForest, French Canadian Ancestors

Noel Carpentier dit Larose probably came to America. He was a simple servant in the home of Pierre Lefebvre, a pioneer of the first decade of the history of Trois-Riveres. A census taker found him there in 1666. He was 19 years old.

Noel Carpentier was not in the census in 1667, but probaby he was around.

On 22 Jun 1669, he accepted a piece of land two by forty arpents, on the Cap, from Nicolas Crevier dit Bellerive.

His wedding ceremony probably took place at the Cap, but no document has ever been found. This deficit makes Noel and Jeanne Toussaint his wife eligible for that special circle of (French-Canadian) ancestors whose origins are unknown. The majority of genealogists agree that they must have married around the end of 1672.

Born in 1752, Jeanne Toussaint entered into a contract for service with Madeleleine de Chavigny, wife of Jean Lemoyne, a citizen of the Cap, on 11 Oct 1670. The act specified that there "was present in person Jeanne Toussaint, a young girl who came from France in the present year." In 1670, thirty-six of the King's daughters out of a total of 87, had come from Paris.

Abbot Prosper Cloutier believes that by 1672 the Carpentier-Toussaint couple were settled at Champlain. The notes of notary Jean Cusson tell us that on 14 Jan 1677, Noel and Jean sold a two-arpent concession to Guillaume Barette. Beginning in 1679, the notary Antoine Adhemar made several entries in his records giving an account of our ancestor over a period of a half dozen years.

For example, in 16 Nov 1679, a lease on a pair of oxen was consented to by surgeon Jean Jalot from Champlain, who was the executor for the wife of Medard Chouart des Groseilers. Carpentier accepted this contract: "For the price and quantity of ten minots of good and marketable wheat that the said landholder will be held to pay and give for each year to the aforesaid lessor in the anme of teh feast day of Noel. " Carpentier also committed himself to "haul to the said lessor in his house situated at Champlain... the quantity of 20 cords of firewood which the said Sieur lessor will have made on the concessions of his neighbors at a distance of 5 to 6 arpents away from his said house."

The census of 1681 palced teh Carpentier family both at the Cap and at Champlain, therefore we are led to believe that they owned properties in both these places. The census taker mentioned five head of cattle adn fifteen arpents under cultivation in the first location and four head of cattle and twenty arpents in the second. On 29 March 1685, Noel accepted another lease from his son in law Francois Chorel de Saint-Romain. On 18 Apr 1693, a lawsuit was brought against Jeaane Toussaint which neded a settlement between Noel Carpenter and Francois Breton. On 13 Jun 1699, a receipt from Jeanne Dandonneau, widow of Jacques abie, a merchant from Champlain, ended a debt of 400 livres on the land acquired from Jean Jalot.

Abbot Cloutier relates that Francois Chorel de Saint-Romain, known as a hard man in business, did not hesitate to use the courts when he believed that he could derive some benefit from them. He sued everyone: church-wardens, clients, creditors, even his own relatives. On 24 Apr 1702, he appealed to the Sovereign Council asking them to reverse a judgment handed dwon by the lower ourt at Trois-Rivieres: an award which had been given to his own father-in-law. The Surpime Court of Appeals of that time, the Sovereign Council, judged the argumetns of the son in law invalid, and he was ordered to pay the court costs.

On Monday 9 Jan 1708, Noel Carpentier and Jeanne Toussaint had to defend themselves agian following a decision rendered in tehir favor by the court at Trois-Riveres. This time, it was Jean-Baptiste Pottier, clerk and notary, appealing a sentence which had declared him guilty of assault and battery against the defendants. Once again the Council set aside the appeal and confirmed the lower court decision in favor of the Carpentier's.

On the following 11 Dec, 52 years old Jeanne Toussaint entrusted her last will and testament to notary Normandin. Six days later she was buried. The property inventtory of her husband Noel Carpentier was drawon up by Francois Troatin on 18 Mar 1711. The same notary reported that on 25 Jun 1715, he turned over all of his undeveloped real estate to Rene de Rainville, his son in law, on the same day that the latter was married to Anne-Celeste Carpentier.

Two sons and two daughters of NoelCarpeinter settled on teh Ile-Dupas, like several famlies from Champlain.
Another son and daughter went ot Becancour. A daughter became a nun.


Noel married Marie Jeanne TOUSSAINT about 1672 in Prob Cap, Quebec. (Marie Jeanne TOUSSAINT was born about 1650 in Prob France and died on 17 Dec 1708 in Champlain, Quebec.)


Noel next married Marie BOUTET after 1708.

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