For more information on early Dehavens and for information on Smith lines of descent from Jesse Dehaven, see My main genealogical file on my father's ancestry My notes on the Dehavens German Dehaven history Evert's and Peter's seal, Jesse Dehaven's mark" Following is a partial table of Dehavens (they are a large family) with my own direct line and their siblings, showing relationships to Jacob Dehaven of the Revolutionary War loans. I will be glad to look anyone up in my copy of Baron Von Alten's (l894) Dehaven table and other information on request. I have the most specific information on my own lines, and the purpose of this file is to compile information on people descended from Samuel II and closely related to me. See also my Smith group sheets in my main genealogical file for descendants of Samuel II who are members of my own Smith family. My great-great grandfather, William Smith, of London Britain PA and White Clay Creek, DE, married Mary the daughter of Jesse Dehaven, and they had ten children, and many descendants. I have information on several of those lines, and am looking for the rest of them. A number of books on Dehavens have been published; Martha Wright's good one is available from the Mormon LDS library through its family history centers. The information below is generally known about the family, comes from Baron Von Alten's chart of the genealogy of the Peter I branch of the Dehaven family published in 1894 and up to date on many lines at that time, Martha WRight's book on the Dehavens, and relatives. Don Shockley and Joe Patterson have a set of good and informative biographical and genealogical documents on early Dehavens including Samuel II's line at the USGENWEB archives under Pennsylvania: Montgomery and Philadelphia Counties, biography. Montgomery Co PA biography Philadelphia Co PA biography Evert Inderhoffin or Indehoeven married Elizabeth Schippbower in Muelheim, Germany. In 1680's or 1690's they were among the initial settlers of Germantown, in what is now Philadelphia. Children of Evert Indehoeven and Elizabeth Schippower (from Wright and Baron Von Alt chart) I Wilhelm b ___ bapt Mulheim ll/29/1680 d in infancy II Gerhard alias Garret bapt Mulheim l2/5/1681. d 2/1747 buried Mannon Ch Chippack Will, City Hall, Philadelphia, m Maria or Anna Marie Selle. Lived Perkomien/ Skippack TWP, drowned when his ship sank. Had two children. III Herman, alias Harmond b Mulheim d 4/1752 will, ciity Hall, Philadelphia, m Anita OpdenGraef, a wealthy family. Ten children (listed in Dehaven Club directory) V Anna bapt Mulheim l/7/1691. (Gerdruth?) remained in Muelheim VI Will bapt Mulheim 1694 remained in Mulheim. IV Peter I bapt Mulheim 3/12/1686/8, d 5/23/1768, Bur Old Blue Bell Church, will City Hall, Philadelphia, m Sidonia Levering, b 4/23/1691, d abt 1736 Children of Peter I: * The three reputed "brothers from France" of family myth. IV a Edward b___ m Margaret OpdenGraef in 1760 had six children. c Modlin (Magdalen) b 11/25/1716 d 9/28/1801 m Hance Supplee Had 14 children; see Dehaven Club directory d John b 1715 m Maria in 1760 four children m Elizabeth Potts two children *e Peter II b 1719 d ll/ll/1815 m Sarah Hughes b 1722 d 9.15.1760 Had one child m (2) Elizabeth Knight had three children f Elisabeth m John Yocum (of New Sweden) nine children see Dehaven Club Directory *g Samuel I b 3/8/1724 d 2/19/1815 m Susanna Spaulding of New Sweden b 5/17/1726 d 4/17/1814 children on chart h Gerhard perhaps m Anna Frey, four children i Mary **j JACOB WHO MADE THE LOANS TO GEORGE WASHINGTON * Had no children who had any children. k John d unm l Abraham d umn b William I b 1714 d 9/10/1784 m Hannah Cramber (poss Cramer) 3/31/1739 First Presbyt Ch of Philadelphia. She b l7l7 in Whitpain, d 6/25/1786. Will, City Hall. dated 9/5/1784, affirmed 9/21/1784. Both buried at Boehm's church at Blue BEll, PA (I think he was a Calvin- istic fringe sort controversial because not properly ordained) Little known about Hannah Cramer/ Cramber. An Andreas Kramer naturalized w others 1709, attended yearly Quaker meeting at Burlington 1692, with both Quakers and Mennonites. William b Whitpain lived all his life there on land his father deeded to him 12/10/1742. He deeded 55 of 105 acres to William, yeoman, and the rest to Edward. William already owned land adjoining. This became Rieff Farm. b1 Margareth b 1739 m Conrad Klein b2 Peter III b l/31/1741 d 1820 m Abigail West died Frederick Co Va, Dehaven Club members named Dehaven from W Va are of this line (and not those around Grant and Mineral Counties) b3 Sarah b 9/26/1743 b4 Andrew b 2/19/1745 d 1788 bur Norristown Dorothy Bertine of this line b6 Jesse b 1748 m ___ had atleast three children b7 Abraham b 1750 d 7/1829 m Ann ____ six children b8 Joes (John) d in infancy b9 Hannah didn't marry, lived in family home. b5 Samuel II b 1752/4, 1746/7 Julian Calendar d 1821 m abt 1771 CAtherine Ramey. That is a real name, French. Var. Remy. Nothing known about her. D 1821, Horsham TWP, Montgomery County, where he bought a plantation in 1774. Until then he lived with his father and brothers in Whitpain, Montgomery Co, and had a tannery. He also owned 58 acres in Whitpain in 1798. He and his son Jesse jointly owned Jesse's farm in London Britain, which was purchased from Samuel's Wright son-in-law. Children of Samuel II: David b 1772/3?? m SArah Gordon, children. Prob rented a Stone house with 58 acres from Henry Greenwalt 1798 Whitpain next to Mathias Wentz children Samuel b 1814, m Martha Taylor, Joel, b 1817 Catherine lived Avon NY Sarah b 1820 m ___Hall Elizabeth Tasie Jane Jesse b 9/10/1773 d 1/ll/1835 m Magdalene Mary Pluck b 6/10/1774 d 9/4/1838 Germany Lived London Britain TWP Chester Co on farm he owned in partnership w his father, b at New London Presby Ch, Catherine b 5/22/1794 d apptly 5/22 or 23/1882 age 90. buried at London Tract Church in London Britain from Chester Co Historical Society news clippings. m James Kennedy, b 7/20/1785 d 3/6/1860 cem record buried London tract Church seven children. I am working on who they are. (News clippings from Chester Co Historical Society) THey apparently lived in southern London Britain in the part that is now Franklin near Maryland border, and attended Old School Baptist Church in Mill Creek Hundred (over the Delaware border in Newark), where Catherine was a prominent member. Both this church and the London Tract Church were Welsh and Primitive Baptist Seven children. I am working on who they were. l. Jesse Osborne Kennedy b 4/6/1921 Franklin. d 6/5/1906 at home of his dau Lena Priest in West Chester, age 85. Buried Goshen Friends' Burial Ground in Goshenville. m Ida/ Rebecca Richardson of New Garden who was 40 in 1860 census when her husband was 29, and died l8 years before her husband. Jessie had no religious affiliation, stalwart Republican, lived Philadelphia, Oxford (Chester Co), Carlyle Ill, West Chester. 1860 Census put him in East Nottingham. SEven children. From Bonnie Bunce a. Lydia A. Kennedy age 16 in 1860 census b. Ida Richardson Kennedy m Charles Leonard Cole see Bonnie Bunce's web page She was 9 in 1860 census, and 25 in 1880 Census, when she lived in New Hampton, Belknap Co New Hampshire with her family. c. Lena A. Kennedy m "Conductor" Wellington Priest on 12/9/1869, Chester Co Hist Soc news abstract Bonnie cites a computer printout of prob same news clipping she was "of Philadelphia", and "formerly of Chester Co". She lived in West Chester when her father died! d. Matilda 15 in 1860 census m Wm H Casho b 1833? of Newark DE on l/26/1867, Chester Co Hist Soc Abstract, "of Chester Co", Bonnie's computer printout has her of West Chester. e. George, 13 in 1860 census. f. Anna ll in 1860 census g. Ella 3 in 1860 census Jesse O Kennedy's obituary lists "Mrs. Kenfield", not living, George Kennedy in St Louis MO, Anna m ___ DuBree and living in Philadelphia, Mrs. Cole not living, Mrs. Dr. McGaffigan of St. Louis MO. A note on his birthday party in April has some of his children came from Philadelphia bringing among others gt grand daughter Irene Stamper. 2. Matilda Dehaven (Isaac Chambers Bible record in Virdin or D.A.R. of Delaware, book on Delawar Bible Records, vol. 3, Bonnie Bunce) b 2/13/1815 d 5/25/1891 m Isaac Newton Chambers b 7/11/1809 d 11/27/1879 son of Isaac Chambers of White Clay Creek Chambers Quaker family and Lydia Beeson. b 4/25/1838 d 11/27/1879 Isaac was my cousin a half dozen times via the Miller, Thompson and Chambers clan of New Garden, Chester County and Newark Delaware. Lydia Beeson prob sister of Beeson who married Lewis Thompson. THeir children all b in or near Newark DE according to their granddaughter who lived there when DAR collected the Bible record a. Lydia Maria Chambers b 3/24/1836 d 2/22/1849 b Quaker Grave Yard, Stricklersville (London Britain) PA (THat means they went to meeting with my direct Thompson ancestors) b. Isaac Newton Chambers b 4/25/1838 c. Louisa Jane Chambers b 8/27/1840 d. Margaret Matilda Chambers b 2/18/___ e. James Marshall Chambers b 2/13/1848 d St Louis, MO 5/11/1914 f. Anna Maria Chambers b 2/7/1850 d 10/13/1919 buried Head of Christiana Cemetery, Newark DE m John Crosby Worth l/28/1873 only l child Ola Louise Worth b ll/7/1880 m John Pearce Cann on 3/26/1908 owned the Bible. There until l974? g. Georce C. Chambers b 2/4/1853 h. Ella S Chambers b 3/17/1855 i. Laura L Chambers b 1/4/1855 ***** David - James Kennedy left l/4 of the amount he left to Matilda to his grandon David her son. ****** THat means I really want to hear from any relatives I have who are descended from this couple! 3. Mary m Robert Burns Her children incl: Mary Emma Burns m Joseph Bomann Their children incl Mary Bomann m James Smith g.son Wm Smith and Mary Dehaven dau of Jesse. 4. Elisa Jane - her father gave her $100 to keep her from challenging the will. 5. William Henry Kennedy d 6/25/1905 at home of son-in-law Charles Davis near Appleton, Cecil Co. b near Strickersville, Chester Co (London Britain TWP) 6/24/1831. m abt 3/25/1852 (est from 50th wedding anniversary celebration) Mary E Pickering Lived "almost" entire life "in vicinity of his recent home" between Kembleville and Strickerville in Franklin TWP buried Rosebank Cem Elmer Kennedy of Marshalton DE in l905 Mrs. Charles Davis of Appleton in l905 Miss Minnie Kennedy in l905 In l886 he held a "family reunion" doesn't say of what family, Harry G Smith, and James A Conner of West Chester present, total about 40, some in that neighborhood, others in Wilmington and elsewhere. *James Kennedy also willed $50 to grandson John Harper. Doesn't say who was his mother. James Kennedy divided his property "among his four children" which does not count Elisa Jane. Joseph b 11/10/1795 d in Baltimore m Sarah Bostie b Germany children Mary, Phoebe Ann m George Fillmore Brown in Md (SEE BELOW), Samuel, Jesse, Sarah, Margaret, Jacob. Three died as infants. Phoebe b 3/14/1797 m 6/14/1814 Solomon Brogan b 1/j3/1787 d 10/8/1838 in London Britain TWP by her father, Jesse. (:from bible owned by Miss Annie Brogan of Alloway, NJ, l925) See children of Phoebe Dehaven and Solomon Brogan Samuel b 2/28/1799 m Margaret McCarty ch Mary m William Falls Peter b 1817 m Emily____ Jacob b 1/3/1801 d 1866 b. 3-4-1800 - d. 9-5-1866 (gravestone) m Hannah McDonnell b. 8-30-1805 - d. 3-22-1868 (gravestone) 1850 census - hotel keeper, age 50, m Hannah, age 47, New Castle Co, DE. Buried White Creek Hundred, Presbyterian Cemetery. 1860 census - he appears to have moved to Philadelphia. Not proven this is same person. M Hannal L, 57. Hotel keeper, 10,000, 1,000. 1859 CD he kept a hotel and lived at 715 Market St, 1861 CD he kept a hotel and lived at NE Broad and Washington. Info from Joy (Firman?), Joe Patterson, Frank Dehaven children Charles Wesley, d unm Caroline Elizabeth b 1828 d 1909 m Benj Hartmann, / Benjamin Herdman. b 1821 d 1907 Son Charles M. Herdman d 5/7/1933 death certificate confirms his parents were Benjamin Herdman and Caroline Dehaven. Benjamin was a hotel keeper in the Newcastle, DE area in his early years. Descendant Joy was tracing an ancestor, Jacobus Du Haven, who was a merchant involved in shipping, possibly French (thus Dehaven changed to Du Haven?) loaned money to Washington to support the Revolution and that the money had never been repaid. Her mother and a sister were Herdmans. She mentions a large Jacob Dehaven monument in a cemetery. Andrew Jackson Andrew Jackson Dehaven b. 10-18-1831 d. 6-17-1859 (parents grave monument, White Clay Creek Presbyterian Cemetery) unm, Frank Dehaven thinks he m Ann Elizabeth Cox in 1855, had Andrew J. 1859, Edward C. 1857 Louisa m Henry Hurley, Davis Whitley m Mary Martin, Emma Julia m E A Marshall, Maggie Lavinia m Allison Naylor Mary b 5/14/1803 m William Smith of London Britain and White Clay Creek, See my main genealogy file for descendants of my great-great grandparents. Jesse b 10/10/1805 m Minta Gamble children William, John Ann and David Sarah Ann b 6/21/1817 d Sept 11, 1870. m Dec 11, 1836, James Makey, Mackey b Jul 4, 1814 d Dec 11, 1836. He was son of Robert Mackey and Jane Kimble. Robert was a farmer and an innkeeper and ran the Fox Chase Tavern in Kimblesville PA. (Gee, I wonder how these two met. Kimblesville a few miles from Jesse Dehaven's tavern in London Britain township) Robert ws son of David Mackey and Agens Curry. Attended New London Presby Ch. DAvid was son of John Mackey and Rachel Elder. John was son of Robert Mackey and Mary Moore (1st wife). The Mackey's were a large Scotch Irish family descended from one of three brotheres from Ireland to Philadelphia, early l8th century. One of the brothers settled in New London, next to London Britain. l852 Franklin carved from eastern part New London. Several Mackey's on London Britain and White Clay Creek map, a number at New London Presbyt Ch Cemetery. Children: Ella Letitia Mackey bapt Oct 6, 1856 Albert Mackey Edwin Mackey James Mackey Sarah Anne Mackey A James Mackey is found in 1880 census , carriage maker, White Clay Creek; aged 42, b 1838. M Sarah E. Lived in Mechanicsville. b DE. Sarah b NJ like both her parents. Had: Herbert B. age 14 Joseph H age 12 J Howard age 10 David 7 Ellen 7 William B 5 John W 4 Bessie 1 There was also a William B Mackey age 45, wagon maker. m to Mary L age 36, had Arthur M age 17 and Clara age 14. ****More children of Samuel II Abraham b 5/5/1774 d 8/8/1853 m Mary Sperry b 10/5/ 1787 d 2/16/1861 a son William. JOhn Sperry bought "the Dehaven farm" w a "nice log cabin" a set of fine pink china and some very fine furniture belonged to Dehaven family. children; William b 1/27/1816 d 1891 single, Mary b 6/6/1818 d 11/8/1891 unm, Marah (Hannah) b 10.19./1822 d 10.17/1883 m Isaac Pontzler, no children Tacy or Nancy b 1776? m Joseph Phipps no other info Elizabeth b 1786 m 8.9/1902 Jonathan Livesey, Neshaminy Presby Ch She from New Wales, Gwynedd TWP, he from Abinggton No children known. Mary b 1786? m (1) Isaac Fetzer (2) Isaac Mitchener b 3/31/1781 d 11/5/1859 children of (1) named in (2)'s will no other information. Isaac Fetzer Sarah Michenor Ann (Nancy) b 12/2/1788 Horsham TWP d 2/5/1865 Pleasantville at homeof son William m Jacob WRight, 1814, s of Jacob and Jane Roney Wrright, Horsham. He b 12/28/1779 d 5/17/1854. Buried Pleasantville Reformed burial ground. Jacob a pious, strongwilled man, temperate, well educated wrote a good hand. Substantial farmer w a stone house. Got 62+ acres from his father incl their house. Samuel Dehaven Wright b ll/8/1814 Prospectville Horseham TWP d 3/8/1895 bu Rose HIll Cem Upper Dublin Lutheran Church, Ambler PA m Martha Taylor b 12/2/ 1822 d 10.19./1908 dau of Jonathan Taylor, Quaker and Margaret Sterigere, Lutheran. Samuel raised Presbyterian but attended Reformed w his wife (both strict Calvinistic sects) and then Methodist John R Wright b 1847 d 1928 bu Rose Hill Cem m Ellen Milligan and Clara Lee Connett Preached 53 yrs, BD from Drews Theological Seminary Annville PA, honorary DD New York Univ l903, a Circuit Riding Methodist Preacher in Kansas, for l2 yrs presiding Elder of New Jersey Methodist Conference. Jacob TAylor Wright b 1849 d 1929 m Margaret Bryan and Juliet Wasson. Ordained Methodist preacher, moved to Seattle, owned several propties died Seattle, bu Rose Hill Cem Ambler PA w his wife. Anna Eliza Wright b 1852 d 1875 m John Kulp b Meeting Sq M.E. Ch. lived North Wales, Gwynnedd TWP. *** Mary Wright b 1854 Prospectville d l930 Newark NJ bu NJ m William Osborn at Mendham NJ m (2) Amos Chamberlain lived Netong NJ no children Howard John Caleb BEnjamin Franklin Wright b 1857 d 1923 m 1881 Miriam Larzalere of Buck Co lived on Wright homestead until 1916 at Ambler Benjamin John R, Walter, Martha Wright m Clarance Gaetrell, Nicholas, Miriam, Frank Russell and Edith. Howard A Wright b 1861 d 1933 San Francisco m Hannah, lived Phila and San Francisco Joseph Wright b 9/14/1818 d 9/17/1892 b Horsham d Spencervillle Ohio m 1855 Philadelphia SArah Callghan b 3/29/1827 Ireland her father ardent Presbyterian in Ireland. Cattle and stockman. Children: Amanda m Charles Lewis, Anderson m Mildred Carroll, Alice m Jonathan Wharton, John m Dora Barber DAvid Wright b 3/8/1921 Prospepctville d 9/7/1900 VanWert Co Ohio m l/24/1850 in PA Hannah Knipe b l/10/1829 d 10/16/1896 bu Wright Cem Spencerville Ohio in Cattle business. Public spirited, worked on highway and community projects. children: Wilson Price m MaryMark and Racahel Burnet, Annie, Boynston m Josephine Crider, and Joseph Jane Wright b 2/14/1824 Prospectville d 5/5/1883 Montgomeryville pA bu HIlltown REf Ch Bucks Co Family plot and monument. m Henry Neville, b 12/20/ 1818, d 7/15/1873. children: Anna b 1856 d 1876, Mary b 1858 d 1877. William Wright b 6/15/1826 Prospectville b 4/5/1895 Lansdale PA m 1854 /catgerube Gatcicj b 6.1.1831 d 2/24/1921 children SHannah m Henry Funk, Hester, Mary, Martha Mary Wright b 1830 d 4/28/1911 m Oliver Kulp d l/28/1899 age 75 children Jane m ___ROberts, Emma m ___Fesmire, Lottie m ___Asure, Effie m ___Craft Children of Phoebe Dehaven and Solomon Brogan Mary Magdalena Brogan b 1816 m ___ Sink Samuel DeHaven Brogan b 9/30/1818 d 5/7/1899 m abt 1841-3 Rebecca Jane String. Angelica Rodney (Annie) b 1843 d 1932 Samuel S. b 4/19/1845 d 10/30/1848 Rebecca Jane (Jennie)b 1848 d 1930 Mary Louisa b 3/10/1854 d 3/14/1949 m abt 1876 William Pigott Edna R b 7/1878 Eliza King Pigott b 4/29/1885 m George Calver King b 12/18/1879 d 5/25/1949 Ada L. b 1860 Edna S. b 1865 This comes from a descendant. It looks as though following children of William could have actually been Samuel's. ****To Nancy William Brogan b 11/4/1821 d 5/17/1894 daug Annie, Jennie, Edna lived Alloway NJ 1925 Solomon Brogan b 3/13/1825 Wesley Brogan b 9/11/1827 Edward T Brogan b 6/6/1829 d 12/9/1864 d Civil War? Phebe Ann Brogan b 9/26/1832 d 1/28/1833 James Henry Asque Brogan b 1/151/1834 d 1/12/1863 m 7/24/1853 Rachel Shaw Dukes Garretson, Tuckahoe NJ b 4/18/1832 d 7/31/1933 age 101+ Cecilton Md bu Brandywine Cem w James H.A. Brogan m twice after his death, no children. Melisa m J Updyke and J Neville Mary Rachel Worth b 1860 Wilmington DE m 2/24/1879 Robert Anderson b 1840 d 1907 James Henry Brogan Jr b 1863 d 1868 Emma b 8/18/1837 m ___Kirk Descendants of Joseph Dehaven and Sarah Bostie Their children included Mary, Samuel, Jesse d 1864, Phoebe Ann, Sarah, Margaret, and Jacob. Three of these died in infancy. Phoebe Anne DeHaven b 3/25/1828 d Scranton or Stranton, near Harrisburg, PA, where she lived w her daughter, at age 93, buried at Harrisburg. She married George Fillmore Brown Sr b 8/31/1825 d 3/1871 buried Harrisburg. Phoebe's parents were obtained by a Brown family member from her death certificate. Children of George Fillmore Brown Sr and Phoebe Anne DeHaven: (from several members of Brown family) Alice Ann b 9/19/1851 Sarah B b 1851 Mary J b 9/1? l855 George Fillmore Brown Jr b_____ Margaret C b 4/14/1860 Samuel b 1861 Edna B Brown b 10/31/1864 Lear? b 5/1/1867 George Fillmore Brown Jr b5/2/1858 in prob Somerson Rom or something Springs, MD, but one version has him b in Terryhaute IN, lived in MD at age 5 and saw the Civil War. Went to Terry haute IN for a while, where some of his children were born, then to Grant County, W Va. d 6/3/1933 lived early in Harrisburg PA (I have more versions of where these people lived when. Other places near Harrisburg may be Suttonbery or Sunberry) He married Anna Lee or C Smith b 1861 d 1916 Both buried in cemetery behind Brown homestead, where Forrest Brown lives, in W VA. Their children: Tom b Emoryville W VA m Stella Bosley b 6/15/1891 d 1942 (I have two people m this woman) --->Melvin Brown, one of my sources Charlie n ___Burgess or Keller? --->Yvonne Wilson, a source. No sons, four daughters, lived in Keyser, Mineral Co, W Va. Wallace C b 1888 d 1853 George Clarence b 8/19/1884 Terryhaute IN a son named Clarence William unm Phoebe Ann m Clarence Westfall Ruth m Claude Westfall Alice m William Weasenforth "Aunt Beck" sons incl Penne, Clarence,(Lake), don't know about daughters Myrrle (sp?) m "Bunk" possibly formal name Walter Weasenforth They lived at Scherr, Grant Co Children Lake, Mary, Charles, Gene, 2 others - who may be the babies that died at birth. ONe of these is connection to Thelma Weasenforth Lunaas. George C Brown b 8/19/1884 Terryhaute Indiana d 1955 m _______? He m Stella Bosley b 6/15/1891,d 1942? His children: Russell C (or Vernon) Brown b 1/18?1910 d 4/22/1973 m Anna Lee Huylman, an Indian parents of Forrest Brown and Barbara Coakley Ralph Edward Brown b 2/2/1911 d 4/17/199l Claude Orlando b 6/1/1912 d 3/13/1913 Floyd Ernest Brown b 9/8/1916 d 3/5/1955 Violet Pauline b 6/17/1918 d 3/13/1992 m Maynard Tefanball Goldie Lee b 2/19/1920 d 11/20/1982 Clarence Jr b 1921 d? Dorothy Maxine b 3/26/1924 d 3/26/1987 m Dempsey Rice d W Va Milford Samuel b 1926 still living Margaret Jean b 1928 still living m "Junior" Tarbon, Glen Beney MD? last updated 6/8/98 Copyright 1998 Dora Smith This page and the information on it are copyrighted by law. The notice, which is not mandatory, serves as a warning, and also makes it hard for anyone to claim they didn't know the stuff is copyrighted. Which I bet many people don't know - I didn't until two weeks ago, and also didn't care. Anyone but Dorothy Bertine and the Dehaven Club as a legal entity have my permission to copy, use, publish, put on their web pages, even try to sell (good luck) anything on this page, subject to I retain my copyright and the rights it gives me, and noone may copyright it, own it, have proprietary rights to it, or tell other people not to publish it or give it to anyone. And I would appreciate being credited for information in these pages, not because I deserve more credit than the rest of my family who like all genealogical information it came from (!!!!!), but because crediting information puts people on notice that the material may be copyright, and a trail of uncredited information could end in a situation like the one that prompted me to put copyright notices on some of my pages, and I might not even know about it to fix it. And keep in mind that my copyright still exists if I fail to come after you and eat you for dinner, which I probably won't, since my interest is in the whole health of a family group! The reason for this notice is that a distant cousin associated with a family club recently tried to restrict the members of the entire family group from sharing, publishing on the web, or giving o public data bases like the Mormon Family History Library's or Genweb their own genealogical information, subject to the publication and sale of a book! Until that moment, I thought that the book, as a COOPERATAIVE family project, was a good idea. I VERY strongly believe that a family's genealogical information belongs to the entire family, and noone has a right to tell people what they can and can't do with their own genealogical information, prevent them from using their own genealogical information, or interfere with communication of such basic and critical information within a family. The reality of modern family communication is that most families in this country are l3 or so generations old, some far older, and huge, and their members don't know who or where each other are, and have limited at best interest in direct communication if they did. A family still needs to transmit its basic genealogical, genetic health and historical information,and under the circumstances that communication is necessarily largely public. It takes place via the Web and large data bases, where people can access it. Unfortunately, another fact of modern intellectual life is retain the right to use one's own "intellectual property" is copyright it. This is a major issue in professions that do substantial academic and scientific research, most of which depend on the free exchange and open availability of knowledge and of research findings. So the purpose of the copyright notice is to make it clear to all that this information is freely available AND WILL REMAIN SO. The reasons why Dorothy Bertine and the Dehaven Club don't have my permission to use it are that I don't want my information legally entangled with people who are acting like this, and I can't justify to my relatives letting people like this have our collective information.
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