According to his death certificate, Thomas Viands's was born to John Viands in Augusta Co., VA abt. 1785 (although some census records show his birth date as early as 1776). The "Viands" name is first used by Thomas and his children in Page Co., VA, however, there were many "Vines" in the Augusta Co. area that are most likely relatives of Thomas Viands. The census records show the following members of the early Vines family in Augusta Co., VA and surrounding areas:

The Thomas Vines listed in these census records is most likely Thomas Vines IV from Amherst County, Virginia (b. 1756 as the son of Thomas Vines III), who married (1) Anna Smith abt. 1779, and (2) Mary Hill, and died in Rockbridge, Augusta Co. in 1837. There is much documentation on this family's descendants, and they can trace their ancestry to the early English settlers of eastern Virginia. However, not much is known yet on the descendants of the "John" and "Anne" listed in these census records. It is likely that they are related to Thomas Vines IV in some way. And, we do know that Thomas IV had a brother named John (b. April 19, 1768) who married Lydia Wanless in Bath Co., VA in 1810. Thomas Vines IV also had a son names John Silas Vines (b. 1784 in VA) who married (1) Polly Hodge on Sept. 21, 1801 in Albemarle County, VA; (2) Jane Brown on Mar. 1, 1810 in Augusta County, VA; and Mary B. Gregory on Dec. 7, 1829 in Virginia. John Silas Vines is to young to be a candidate for Thomas Viands father.

Other John Vines that appear in marriage records in counties near Augusta Co., VA are as follows:

Shendanoah County Marriage Book

John Vine married Elizabeth Bowers on 8/2/1808. John's father is listed as Adam Vine. Adam is most likely another son of Thomas Vines IV.

 

Greensville County, VA

John Vines married Lurena Wrenn on 20 Sep 1790.

All of these marriages listed would have occurred after Thomas Viands was born. Most likely, if one of them does refer to his father, John, they are a record of a second marriage.

Census: 1810, Augusta Co., VA - May be him

Note: The most probable match for this John Viands is John Vines (b.1768 ) married to Lydia Wanless. They were married in Bath County, VA in 1810. If this is the case, then these Vines descend back to the early JamesTown, VA settlers, who came from England.

Death Record:

NAME: VINDS, THOMAS - SEX: M - RACE: W - DOD: 1853 MAY 13

POD: HAWKSBILL - POB: AUGUSTA CO. - AGE: 68.0.0 - OCC: FORGEMAN

SPOUSE: VINDS, NANCY - PARENTS: VINDS, JOHN

INFORMANT: VINDS, GEORGE - SON - CAUSE: TYPHOID FEVER

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Census 1820 Shenandoah Co., VA - Speedwell Forge

Thomas Vines - Males: 2 <10, 1 16-18, 1 25-45; Females 1 <10; 1 16-26; 2 engaged in manufacturing

Census 1840 Page Co., VA

Thomas Viands - Males: 1 <5, 1 5-10, 2 15-20, 2 20-30, 1 50-60; Females: 2 <5, 1 40-50

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Furnaces and Forges

Author: Tom Pierce Date: 8 Dec 1999 12:00 PM GMT

Surnames: Harberger, Dalton, Viands

Classification: Query

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I am doing background history on several family groups at the furnaces and forges in Shenandoah County. At Speedwell Forge in what is now Page County I have found at least three families with ties to Augusta County - Joseph Harberger, William Dalton, and Thomas Viands - based on Chalkey's Chronicles and marriage bonds. If anyone is researching these families, and is trying to find where they went about 1800-1810, you can find them on p. 159 of the 1820 Shenandoah County census, although William Dalton is dead by then so you need to look at 1810 or in the personal property tax lists, 1810-1814, for him.

Burial: Private

Cause of Death: typhiod fever

Census 1: 1820, Speedwell Forge, Shenandoah County, VA p. 159 - neighbor is John Day

Census 2: 1840, Page Co, VA - p.165

Census 3: 1850, Page County, VA

Note 1: All "Viands" in the U.S. seem to descend from Thomas and Nancy Day Viands.

Note 2: One exception is the Viands from York Co., PA. Angeline Vines and family migrated from Rockingham Co., VA after the death of her husband William J. Vines around 1900. Their name changed to Viands. There is no known relationship with Thomas and Nancy.

Occupation 1: 1820, Manufacturing

Occupation 2: 1850, Forgeman

Thomas never appears on the record as married to an Edith. Her name comes from the Death Record of John A. Viands (1818-1901) in Jefferson Co., WV. The name of his mother is somewhat illegible, but appears to be "Edith."

Note: Some researchers claim that Thomas's wife's name is Edith. This comes from John A. Viands death certificate in Jefferson Co., WV - which is partly unreadable.

Page News Courier, 1880

VIANDS, MRS. died 03 May 1880 at Page Co., Va. Son-William Viands.

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Death Record:

VIANDS, NANCY 94 F W - VA MAR 1880 OLD AGE SPG 388

For more information on Day genealogy see:

Day Family Genealogy at http://www.angelfire.com/pa/DayFamilies/

Died 2: March 1880, Springfield, Page Co., VA⁴

Burial: Private⁵

Census 1: 1850, Page Co, VA

Census 2: 1860, Shenandoah Co., VA - Edinberg - P. 584 # 43 - Living with son-in-law Martin M. Whetzel

Census 3: 1870, Shenandoah Co., VA - Madison Township - p. 740 - #34 - living with son-in-law, Martin M. Whetzel

Occupation: 1870, Housekeeper

Social Security Number: UNKNOWN

Marriage: May 05, 1815, Shenandoah Co., VA⁶

1. Death Record, Page Co., VA.

2. John Vogt and T. William Kethley, Jr., Shenandoah County Marriage Book.

3. Census, 1880 - Shenandoah County, VA, lists bith place as Stafford Co., VA.

4. 1880 Mortality Schedule Page County, Virginia, "Electronic."

5. "Page Courier," Page County, VA.

6. John Vogt and T. William Kethley, Jr., Shenandoah County Marriage Book.