the FRISCO PAPERS and more
The ST. LOUIS SAN-FRANCISCO RAILWAY - RAILROAD never made it to
California. The first track laid was in 1855 and in 1876 was ogranized. Shortly afterward the name FRISCO and the coonskin logo would appear as a product of its early
employees. Management liked it. The above map gives you an idea of the states
its 5,000 miles of track covered.
This no-frills web site is set up to exhibit the FRISCO PAPERS I
collected in the '70s from the old FRISCO EMPLOYEE RECORDS BUILDING in
SPRINGFIELD, MISSOURI as it was vacated and employee records hauled to a
I would like to find descendants of the men who's lives these
papers represent. If your relative is here, please e-mail me.
GENEALOGY is the ONLY reason for this page. I also added a collection of OLD
PICTURES of FRISCO EMPLOYEES sent in by FRISCO descendents. Recently I have started accepting and adding old pictures of employees of other RRs. For the links to these old pictures, scroll down to the picture of the two ladys standing by a locomotive.
Other Rail links
have been added also because of their genealogical value.
The collection of personal papers of employees number more than 500
names. They are divided into three lists and there are other pages that
represent more employee files. I have most of them on line now, but I am looking
for more to add.
In the beginning, these employee files represented a lot of
soul searching for me as what should I do with them. By the time I
figured that out, I had let many thousand get away. If only I had a crystal ball
and could see the INTERNET coming down the road.
To read how I came by
these records and to see an early employment application, CLICK
NOTE: THE SPRINGFIELD/GREENE COUNTY LIBRARY IS NOW ON LINE WITH A WEB PAGE OF
PUBLICATIONS OF PAST FRISCO EMPLOYEE MAGAZINES. THESE DATE FROM 1902 TO 1935.
THERE ARE STORIES ABOUT EMPLOYEE'S RETIRING AND PICTURES OF THEM IN THEIR
JOB. FOR RESEARCHING YOUR DECENDENTS, THIS IS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTION. AFTER
GETTING TO THE MAGAZINE PAGE, YOU CAN SEARCH ANY WORD AS WELL AS THE NAME YOU
HERE FOR THE FRISCO LIBRARY PAGE.
|These papers date from the late 1800s to the WW II years and are only
a fraction of the many FRISCO employee records that once were. I have
arranged them alphabetical so you can search for your FRISCO relative. You
should also use your EDIT/FIND function too. If you find a relative, I
will pass that record on to you for the simple fee of postage and
There are a couple of files that are compelling in their content and
insight into the working life of the early railroaders. If you find your
relative here, please do not take offence. Write me. I will make every
effort to pass these records onto you for their genealogical value in your
family. This page was born Dec. 23, 2000. I am constantly adding to
it. Check below for some of the other interesting papers I have found
besides the FRISCO PAPERS, the tombstone picture and the many early pictures that friends of this page have sent in to me to post. The pictures are the property of the person credited with the picture or if no credit, then mine. Please, No
reproduction without written permission
I wish I could identify the underpass picture to the right, but can only think that it may have been the Lyon street underpass in north Springfield.
Toward the bottom of this page is a GUEST BOOK where others have signed in with
their relative's name and employment history with the FRISCO. You may want to do
Let me suggest in your search to save time, that you use http://www.google.com/as a search engine. With
GOOGLE, you can put in the title of this page "frisco papers" then type in the name you
are researching. If it is here, google will bring it up. Be sure to put " on
each side of frisco papers.
PAPERS pg 1 Bar_ to McKen_
PAPERS pg 2 Med_ to Zum_
PAPERS 1/11/01 More employee footprints,
RECORD to qualify as Fireman. Signatures of Engineers 1943
LETTER FROM J. M. KURN president Frisco 1921
H HAMILTON other holdings of the FRISCO 1918
HURTS ABOUT THOSE FRISCO WHISTLES"
EMPLOYE'S KINDLING In triplicate New!
The more things change, the more they stay the same. Working for the RR
back then still met lay offs and traveling to where the work was. Then there was
credit. Many lost their job over the threat of garnishment. Here are 550
business names in St. Louis, MO. Names
from Alaska Fur Co to Zollinger Furniture, members St. Louis Credit Union Nov.
18, 1922 on the back side of a letter found among these records.
||Train wrecks have always attracted the curious. There were plenty of accidents in the early
years to keep the locals and the wrecking crews busy.
Here (not the picture on the left)is a WW-2 accident. A TRAIN WRECK
100+ NAMES 1942 with employee dates back to 1872 & early 1900s.
I have received requests for information of relatives hurt or killed in
train accidents on the FRISCO. I wish I could help, but other than local newspaper accounts, there
are no good records of the human side of the seriousness of these tragedies. |
A reader sent in the
following set of pictures with the date and I was able to put them together with the Department of Transportation report.
Here is a picture/story of one such accident with names.
OF ENGINE 4023 March 29, 1928(NOW the picture on the left)Little is known of the picture on the left and the sender
would like to know more about it. If the picture looks familiar,
click here to help identify it.
I will be adding more pictures and information as they are given to me.
Good news: as of March 2001, we have a FRISCO RR MAILING LIST on rootsweb.
Briefly, you can SUBSCRIBE to the list in mail mode by sending a message to: FRISCO-RR-Lfirstname.lastname@example.org
in the message place the single word;
You can subscribe to the
digest mode by sending a message to: mailto:FRISCO-RR-Demail@example.com"
and in the message place the single word;
You can read archived
postings by subscribers to this list by going to www.rootsweb.com and look for
MAILING LIST, under it click on INDEX, next, click on OTHER, then click on
OCCUPATIONS, then FRISCO RR.
Or you can go directly to the archives by Clicking
If you have questions about this mailing list, e-mail me. Fred Veregge. I am the List Administrator.
RR NEWS CLIPPINGS with an everyname index
on holders of FRISCO STOCK 1922/23
Following are links to other interesting railroad genealogy sites and a
NOTE: There is no longer a FRISCO MUSEUM in Springfield, MO.
E-Mail me if you have questions about what happened to the contents.
The FRISCO RESOURCE center has
Frisco information mostly for the modeler as well as a general topic board.
ROOTSWEB.COM has a page titled RAILROAD
WORKERSand a recent addition called RAILROAD
ACCIDENTS where you can post and/or read messages from others who have a
like interest. Click on either one.
AND I must give a lot of credit for this page and the above research to
Judy, and her love for genealogy. Visit JUDY'S STUFF at Judy's
stuff. page and LAWRENCE COUNTY Missouri.
This 1913 picture with a train on the tombstone is unique. It belongs to
my cousin Monica and her husband Marlyn Eshelman. Marlyn is related to Howland
and loaned this picture in hope of finding relatives. They think the cemetery is
in La Crosse Wisconsin. Can anyone tell me for sure, so I can pass it on to
Lacrosse, Wis. May 29, 1913: Harry V Howland, engineer
employed Burlington was killed this morning when locomotive tipped and his body
crushed." This picture is of his children, father and thought to be his mother.
Here is a recent article by GEORGE MORGAN: RESEARCHING
OLD RAILROADS as it appeared in Ancestry.com
Sources for Railroad History Research in the United States: http://www.lib.uconn.edu/DoddCenter/ASC/BLC/Railroadlinks.htm#Genealogy</a
Here is CYNDI'S LIST of
Genealogy Sites on the Internet Cyndi's RAILROAD Page
Go here for Railroad Retirement
Board Information genealogy search I am getting mostly positive feedback on
this site for those of you seeking information in the time frame where the RR
Retirement Board can help you
|The picture to the right is my mother-in-law, Nellie (Miller)Yates
holding the flowers. (Do not know who the other lady is.) Her husband,
Alva Yates would go to work for the Frisco some time after they were
married. After retireing with 25 years, he served as president of the
local chapter of RR Retirees. For a record of the first meetings of the
SPRINGFIELD, MO RAILWAY RETIREES, CLICK
Click on one of the links below and view the many FRISCO folks
on the job and in their work place. |
HERE for the first set of pictures.
HERE for a seconed set of pictures. AND
HERE for employee pictures of OTHER railroads.
If you have a picture that is identified as Frisco (or any other RR) and has employee or employees representing their work on the RR, and will let me post your picture(s) them
please e-mail me. Simply write a short note to explain the picture and
what it means to you.
It is my desire to place the human before the iron on this WEB
The St Louis-San Francisco Railway also had a
It was identified with a FTC logo.
HERE for the
COMPANY (FTC) picture and story page.
Have you heard of the Railroad that never was, as in Dallas
County Missouri? Here is a 1873 MO RR map that shows even the proposed RRs of
the time. Evident here is the line proposed between Lebanon, Buffalo, and
Bolivar. This is a story worth reading. Click
here for the 1873 map and scroll down to Dallas county. Use your back-button
to come back and read Dream
of railroad turned into 70-year nightmare
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Here is the FRISCO Line from Kansas City thru Memphis
when it was called:
CITY FT. SCOTT & MEMPHIS R.R.
MORE FRISCO MAPS, Thanks to SOUTHWEST MISSOURI STATE UNIVERSITY
SMSU BUSINESS PAGE
UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI, ROLLA, has what they call their WESTERN
HISTORICAL MANUSCRIPT COLLECTION. In this collection, stored off campus, are
many boxes filled with records of the FRISCO. Most are matters of the operation
of the RR, but there are some scrapbooks and photos that make up the human side.
To get an idea what there is, CLICK HERE
Scroll half way down before you get into the heart of this RR. At the bottom
of the page you will find more information about these boxes of records. I would
love to find out more about these records. Any one who has seen them or done
research here. please write me.
PLEASE SIGN THE
GUEST BOOK? Enter your RR relative. The next person to view the guest book
may have information for you.
Note that Web Search Engines will not pick
out names in this guest book, so I have taken these names and made an ALL NAME
INDEX that will work with search engines. To see the list, CLICK
I will add names as they are posted in the guest book.
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Here is a challenge: There are few Genealogy web pages relating to past
employee’s of other old Railroads. I would like to see others take on a web page
for their ancestors Railroad. Rootsweb.com will host your site free and help you
set it up.
This Web page is not all that it can be. For you FRISCO folks I want you
to know that I am open to ideas and any input that you may have. I know there
are old company magazines out there that have a wealth of employee pictures and
stories. To give you an idea how these company magazines can produce much
employee history, let me direct you to:
Railroad, Personnel Records
Visit their page. I like it. I’m not sure I
have the expertise to build any thing more than a no-frills Web page, but maybe
that is all we need. What I do know is that there is a lot more information out
there to gather. Any and all help is appreciated.
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post card above of the FRISCO OFFICE BUILDING, SPRINGFIELD, MO is postmarked Aug
5, 1911 and received CREIGHTON, MO Aug 6.
MAUDE(?) sent the card to JAS.
EURING, Creighton. "Arived O K. Vira & Effie met me"
If you came direct to this page and wonder who put this mess together,
then I invite you to my PEANUT BUTTER JELLY SANDWICH & GALLON of GAS PAGE.
It may confuse you more, but may entertain you too. There is a story of moving a
house (GROWING A HOME), story of a cave, of an Indian, a dog, family genealogy,
and other things will be added as time permits. So here is MY INDEX
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ That's all 4 now.
I will be happy to hear from you.
e-mail Fred Veregge. (retired)