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Roy A. Thoma (-0G)

a grandson of one of the the half-brothers of our grandfather (paternal side)
(click for a chart showing his relationship to us)

Birthday: 08 Mar. 1918 Birthplace:  St. Louis, MO
MotherEdna Huth (-1G) FatherOtto H. Thoma (Jr.) (-1G)
Sex/Fam. Grp.:  male / Fridolin's 1st Family Died:  02 Oct. 1991 in Shreveport, LA

  • Brother Gene A. Thoma (0G) born on 23 Apr. 1924 in St. Louis, MO
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  • Married in St. Louis
  • Child #1 born
  • Child #2 born
  • Father died in Apr. 1966 in Shreveport, LA
  • Mother died after 1965 in Shreveport, LA
  • Moved to Shreveport, Caddo Parish, LA after 1964
  • Died on 02 Oct. 1991 in Shreveport, LA
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  • Cited in Given Names - Meanings and Derivations - Info on the name "Roy"
  • The surname "Thoma"
  • Included on the St. Louis page
  • Included on the Louisiana page
  • Included on the Fridolin Thoma's First Family Chart
  • The (-1G), etc., after the names indicates the number of generations before Erven Thoma

    Before Roy there might have been a stillborn sibling, born and died ca 12 Oct. 1914 in St. Louis. Before Roy there was definetely born a brother, Otto Walter, born on 30 May 1916 in St. Louis. There might have also been a stillborn sibling that was interred on 06 Sept. 1922 in block 7, lot 141 in New Marcis Cemetery in St. Louis County.

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    I don't know what Roy's middle initial stands for. Albert or Andrew? Brother Gene has the same middle initial.

    The house at 2817 Wyoming where Otto Thoma and family lived from ca 1891 to after 1920. The house still stands (in Aug. 2001) but is in very poor condition.
    Click on this thumbnail to enlarge the picture of Otto Jr., Roy's father.

    The 1920 Census for Missouri (supv. dist. 183, enum. dist. 159, sheet 7B, dwelling 105, family 205, lines 85-91, dated 10 and 12 Jan) shows the family living at 2303a S. 13th St. in ward 9 of St. Louis. The father, Otto, is 28 years old, born in Missouri. He is a merchant of wholesale meats. The mother, Edna, is 27 years old. Otto Walter is 3 years and 7 months, born in Missouri. Roy is only 1 year 10 months, born in Missouri. Also living there is Edna's father, George Huth, 67; his wife Katharine Huth, 61; and his son, Frederick Huth, 35 years old. Frederick is a polisher of toy jewelry

    The St. Louis City Directory of 1922 lists Otto H. Thoma, salesman, living at 3109 Wyoming. The 1924 Dir. has Otto H. Thoma Jr., salesman at Columbia Products Co., residing at 4653a Morgan Ford Rd. In the 1925 Dir. the information is the same.

    Otto's and Edna's third child that lived, Gene A. Thoma (0G), was born on 23 Apr. 1924 in St. Louis(?).

    The father's businesses are mentioned on p. 266 in "Who's Who in North St. Louis", published by the North St. Louis Business Men's Assoc. in 1925. At that time he owned and operated the Columbia Products Company at 2545 West Dodier Street in St. Louis, MO. That company were canners of Columbia and Bavarian malt extracts and dealers in domestic and imported hops, crown, porcelain stoppers and cappers. The article says that Walter and Otto (Jr) assisted in this business too.

    The St. Louis City Directory of 1926 lists Otto H. as a salesman, living at 4653a Morgan Ford Rd. The 1927 Directory has the same information as in 1925.

    The Directory of 1929 shows Otto H. Thoma Jr. as assist. manager at Columbia Products Co. and is living at 4129 Fillmore.

    In the Standard Masonic Directory of St. Louis and St. Louis County (1929) Otto and his father are listed. Otto Jr. is living at 4129 Fillmore and was a member of Lodge No. 2 of the Ancient Free and Accepted Masons and a member of Alhambra Grotto (MOVPER). Erven E. Thake (my grandfather) was also a member of the same Grotto at this time.

    The 1930 Fed. Census for Missouri (T626_1234, enum. dist. 471, supv. dist. 9, sheet 8B, lines 93-97, dated 8 Apr. 1930) show Otto H. Thoma (Jr) [-1G] and his family living at 3675 Wilmington in St. Louis (ward 13, block 5865). They are renting at $40/month from Otto's parents who live upstairs; they have a radio set. Otto is 39 years old, is married since age 22, is not attending school, and was not a vetran of a war. He was born in Missouri, his father in Germany and his mother in Missouri. He reads, writes, and speaks English. He is a manager at a malt manufacturing plant. His wife Edna, is 37 years old, is married since age 20, and is not attending school. She was born in Missouri, her father in Hanover Germany and her mother in Missouri. She reads, writes and speaks English, and has no listed occupation. Their son Otto Walter is 13 and was born in Missouri. He is attending school and reads, writes, and speaks English. Their son Roy A. is 12 and was born in Missouri. He is attending school and reads, writes and speaks English. Their youngest son, Gene, is 5 and was born in Missouri. He is not yet attending school but he speaks English.

    - - - - - - - - - - - from the 1930 Census (Apr.) until his move to Louisiana (ca 1966) - - - - - - - - - -

    The 1930 St. Louis City Directory lists Otto H. Thoma as employed at Columbia Products Co. He and his family are living at 3675 Wilmington Ave., a house that was built for his parents by Theodore (Ted) Winge (-2G), a brother-in-law of his father's half-brother Emil Thoma (-2G). This listing also gives his wife's name--Edna. The 1930 Directory also lists an Otto A. Thoma (with wife Anna) as a radio mechanic, living at 3960 McRee Ave. The 1931 Directory lists Otto H. Thoma and his wife Edna living at 3675a Wilmington. He is working at Columbia Products Co. The 1932 Directory lists Otto and Edna living at 6511 Leona Ave. He is a malster at Columbia Products Co. The 1936 City Dir. has Otto H. (Edna) Thoma, samesman, with a home at 6511 Leona.

    Otto's (Jr) S. S. number is 487-26-1414 and is dated May 14, 1941. At that time he said he was 50 years old, born 16 Dec. 1890. He was living at Route #1 Eureka, MO. He did own his own business, but is now working for the Ritz Beverage Co., located at 1822-24 S. 12th St. (or 17th?) in St. Louis, MO. His parents' names and his middle initail are given.

    The St. Louis Directory of 1941 shows Otto W. Thoma, with wife Della [?] living at 3675a Wilmington Av. He is a driver. This is the eldest brother of Roy.

    Roy made application for a S.S. card before 1951 while still living in St. Louis.

    The St. Louis Directory of 1955 shows Otto W. Thoma [the father] (with wife Edna), salesman at Consumers Glue, and a home at 5543a Grace Ave. The 1956 Dir. has the same information.

    Brother Otto W. and his family moved to Shreveport, LA in 1956.

    In May of 1960 (at the time of the death of Gene's grandmother) his parents were living at 4948 and a half Fyler Ave.

    The St. Louis County Directory of 1965 lists his parents Otto H. Thoma, with wife Edna, a salesman at Consumer Glue in St. Louis, living at 9405 Pancho Dr. in Affton, MO.

    He and his family, his parents, his brother Gene and family all moved to Shreveport, LA some time between 1965 and Apr. 1966. Sometime after 1965 there was a fire in the Shreveport home of Otto Jr. which unfortunately destroyed family records and photos.

    The 1966 County Dir. has Otto H. (Edna) Thoma [the father], retired, with a home at 9405 Pancho Dr. in Affton. The S. S. Death Index reports his father's death as in Apr. 1966. His residence at the time of death was in Zip code 71105 in Shreveport, Caddo Parish, LA.

    His mother, Edna, died after 1965, I do not know exactly when but I assume that it happened in Shreveport.

    Roy died on 2 Oct. 1991, perhaps in Shreveport, LA. He appears in the S. S. Death index with the number 492-09-6168 which was issued in Missouri before 1951. The index gives his birth and death date but not the last residence.

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    His brother, Gene A. Thoma (0G), died on 25 Jan. 2005 in Shreveport, LA. His brother, Otto Walter Thoma (0G), died on 22 Jul. 2005 in Shreveport, LA.

    Roy's wife, and two children outlived him.
     

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