|Lysgen (Elizabeth) Grietes
Lysgen (Elizabeth) Grietes 1
Lysgen married Peter Dohrs, son of Tisken An Gen Dohrs and Unknown, in Kaldenkirchen, Rhineland, Germany. (Peter Dohrs was born in 1580 in Kaldenkirchen, Rhineland, Germany 2 and died before Dec 28, 1638 in Kaldenkirchen, Rhineland, Germany 3 4.)
1 Dora Smith, Rebecca Kester's Kester Line (http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/5127/Webster/kester.html, http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/5127/Webster/doors.html, http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/5127/Webster/opdgraff.html, http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/5127/fathersfam/smittafl.html).
2 Jean M. White, editor, The Descendants of Paulus and Gertrude Kusters: 1542-1819 (The Castor Association of America, Mennonite Press, Newton, Kansas 67114), p. 48.
3 Jean M. White, editor, The Descendants of Paulus and Gertrude Kusters: 1542-1819 (The Castor Association of America, Mennonite Press, Newton, Kansas 67114).
Wilhelm Niepoth (translated by John Brockie Lukens), The Ancestry of the Thirteen Krefeld Emigrants of 1683 (Die Abbstammung der 13 Auswanderer von Krefeld nach Pennsylvania im Lichte neiderrheinischer Quellen) (The Pennsylvania Genealogical Magazine, vol. XXXI, 1980, Number 3), p. 506. p. 505
"...in the church records of the Reformed congregation of Kaldenkirchen. On 16 October 1668 were married there Paulus Kusters, bachelor of Kaldenkirchen and Gertrud Doors, spinster of Kaldenkirchen. Children of theirs baptized there were: 1. Arnold, baptized 9 June 1669; 2. Johannes, baptized 12 December 1670; 3. Matthys, baptized 6 December 1671; 4. Reiner, baptized 2 December 1674. Later other children were born, but not baptized at Kaldenkirchen; Elizabeth and Hermann."
"Going by the first name of the eldest son, the father of Paulus Kuesters, must have been the Catholic, Arret Kuesters, who lived in Kaldenkirchen."
Niepoth relates a story about Gertrude Door's parents' experiences with religious persecution which is taken from the "Julich-Berg Historical Journal". A few days before the birth of Gertrude's sister, the bailiff had struck her mother in the face. The father was fined 100 gold Guilders and his goods taken. However the government intervened and declared that Gertrude's father should stay and not be persecuted.
Unknown pages (from http://www.angelfire.com/pa/maryedith/kundersarticle.html):
On the 6th of October 1683, thirteen Low-Rhenish Quaker and Mennonite families with 34 men, women and children landed on the Pennsylvania coast. They settled near Philadelphia at what became know as Germantown. Previous to their emigration, they had gathered at the tiny city of Krefeld. They had come from various places in the Low-Rhenish region of Germany, and after having reached Krefeld, they followed the call of the Frankfurt jurist Daniel PASTORIUS into the New World.
One of this group of thirteen families was THEUNIS KOENDER. The record of this upright pioneer has been mentioned often in American sources. Up to this time, however, very little has been known about the actual place of his origin, his ancestors or his life previous to his emigration to Pennsylvania. In his excellent work about the descent of the emigrants to Pennsylvania, Wilhelm NIEPOTH demonstrated that, according to Low-Rhenish records, Theunis KOENDERS was a native of the city now know (sic) as Monchengladbach. I have been able to find four generations of his ancestors there. For a better understanding of events, we will first have to quickly cover some of the geographical, political and religious situations which existed during the 16th and 17th centuries
GENERATION IV: The record of the sale of the Heckerhof on 20 April 1691, proves that Coentgen COENIS, alias HECKER, alias LENSSEN, left three children.
The oldest son, Thonis, our Thonis KUNDERS, was born in Gladbach before 1654. He is the child mentioned in the Mennonite record of 1654. He accompanied his parents when they fled to Krefeld. Thonis must have received his first name after his maternal grandfather, because there is no such call name in the Coenis family. He, the grandfather, may have been the Thonis HECKER who was living in the Heckerhof in 1652, before Coentgen COENIS and his sister Giertgen acquired the property.
The second son, Lenss, received the name of his paternal grandfather, Lenss COENIS. The daughter, Tring, married Niclas tho Hinxes of Hinxeshof in Hoven. All three children were Mennonites.
Thonis COENIS arrived in Goch, a city in the northern Low Rhenish Region, sometime before May 25th, 1670. On that date, the records of baptisms in the Mennonite congregation show: "Theunis Keonders, a young unmarried man, son of Koendert Lenson." He was about 20 years old at that time. The same record shows that on 9 July 1673, "Leentien Doormans, young unmarried woman, daughter of Theis Doormans, " was also baptised as an adult. Then on the 31st of May 1677, a marriage was recorded in the records of the Reform Church at Krefeld. "Tonis Kuners of Gladbach and Lentgen Matteisen of Kaldenkirchen." The bride was the daughter of Theis Doormans or Doors and Agnes. [Matteisen means daughter of Matteis or theis, which is a form of the name Matthew.]
In 1679, Thonis CONRADTS became a citizen of the city of Krefeld. Four children were born to Thonis and Lentgen Doors while they lived in Krefeld: Conrad, who was named for his paternal grandfather; Matthias, named for the maternal grandfather; Jan and a fourth child who died in Krefeld.
While still in Krefeld, Thonis Kunders joined the Quakers and in 1683, he and his wife, with three surviving children immigrated to America, where he took an important part in the founding of the village of Germantown, now a part of the city of Philadelphia. Therefore, he could not be present in Gladbach on 20 April 1691, when the sale of the Heckerhof took place. He had to be represented by his brother-in-law, Niclas tho Hinxes.
In Germantown, four other children were born to Thones KUNDERS, as he was called in Germantown. These were Anna, for her paternal grandmother, Entgen; Agnes, for the maternal grandmother, Agnes or Nessgen; Heinrich and Elizabeth.
After an adventurous life, Thones CUNDERS died in Germantown in 1729, aged about 76 years, and is probably buried in the Friends Burying Ground there.
Note: The spelling of names and places is as it appears in the manuscript, except for obvious typing errors.
. Comments from Grace Custer Ebneter