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WHERE DO THESE FIT IN WITH STEPHEN STADLER/STATLER?

ABRAHAM STATLER

Fr "Charles Statler" cgstats@msn.com c.g.stat@worldnet.att.net 14 Sep 2001 -"Statler cemetery is listed at the Statler web site, as well as many of the names under family histories. I am a descendent of Abraham Statler who was in Roanoke area/Loudoun co VA. There is info on Stephen Statler (Stradler) on Statler web PG states Stephen had children John, Stephen, Michael, George, Catherine, Jacob and Joseph. My Abraham b mid 1700's d 1813 record states Stephen (old) lived Hampshire Co VA. Co now part of WV. Hampshire Co also part of Loudoun Co VA. I think Stephen/Abraham could be bro's and sons of John Statler. Usually first b son named for husband’s father. My Abraham's children's names: John, Jacob, Abraham, Elizabeth, and Catherine. Note the similarity bet names. Plane in PA crashed less than 15mi fr Statler Cem at Reels Corner. This cem is final resting-place of Casper Statler and family members. There approx 50-70 people buried in a quiet spot off an unmarked road." Charles S

[NO DNA match with desc of Stephen Statler and the Abraham desc 6-2004 per Sandra Hall]

Sandra Jones Hall shall@pacbell.net 1-14-2003-There are stories in many families about brothers usually three, who came from Europe. Does it happen that way? Sometimes, much more often, a nuclear family (father, mother and children) emigrate along with other relatives, in-laws, and fellow church members and neighbors. Some of the passenger lists show Statler/Stettler/Stadler men coming as single men. In my Statler research I have found "the brother" story associated with the group of Statlers from Loudoun County, VA. In actuality the father of the brothers was there. The father was Abraham, sons John, Jacob and Abraham. The family connections of the various Statler families is something I have been researching a long time. I have looked at the names of neighbors in America and and others on the same ship. I have found the different groups occasionally associated with some of the same surnames, but not enough to make a connection back to Europe. I have mapped out the towns in Europe from which the known neighbors and in-law emigrated, It looks like a map of the Rhine Valley: From around Mannheim up the river to Canton Bern, Switzerland about thirty mile either side of the river. Currently that land is in three countries, Germany, France, and Switzerland. Hard to zone in on that.

From: Brandy Long mysticange@yahoo.com
http://www.mrfs.net/trips/2002/Switzerland/Lucerne/Lucerne.html

"Lucerne sits where Reuss river flows out Lake Lucerne (aka the Vierwald-Statter See). "
DJames Adams <montanan2@worldnet.att.net - On map of Switzerland, just to southeast of Canton Bern,are the words VIERWALD Statter See. Any one know what that means? It caught my eye cause statter See so close to Statler

Hi, Nena! Kiti has made wonders afain, the Switzerland Tourist Authorities have answered.
Sehr geehrte Frau Westerback Bitte entschuldigen Sie, dass wir das Mail erst jetzt beantworten...
Der Name kommt daher, dass an diesem See 4 Stätte, im heutigen Sprachgebrauch Kantone genannt, liegen. Es sind dies Uri, Schwyz, Unterwalden und Luzern - Namen die politische, geografische Gebiete benennen. Diese wurden eben früher die Vierwaldstätte genannt...
Bei weiteren Fragen zögern Sie bitte nicht, uns jederzeit zu kontaktieren.
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So it means in English that there are four cities near the lake, called now Kantones.
These four cities (Vierwald-Statter See) are Uri, Schwyz,
Unterwalden and Luzern, which You call Lucerne.
The names cover geographic and politica Regions.
By old way of talking those four places were named
Vierwaldstätte.
Hope this all helps You forward and it is very interesting that You could be connected to Switzerland here in Europe. love, Pia in Finland 2002

Switzerland Statler's

Enumerated 21 Jun 1870 Smith Twp., Worth Co., Mo.M593_826 pg. 415
HH#169
Hoeffe, Peter G. 33 farmer Switzerland
, Ilisabeth                       30 Swit.
Stateler, Rosena            17 Swit.
Rorea/Rosea?, Magdalene Switzerland

Enum. 12 Jul 1870 Seneca Twp., Monroe Co., Oh.M593_1245 pg. 244B
HH#195
Stateler, Niklas 66 mw cheese maker Switzerland
, Lana               55 Swit.
, Christian        18 mw works on farm Swit.
, Frederick       17 Oh.
, Radolph         10 Oh.
Kennen, Levi   27 mw farm laborer Swit.

HH#196
Walter, John         33 mw farmer Switzerland
, Rosina                24 Swit.
, John                     7 Oh.
, Alace                   5 Oh.
, Charles                3 Oh.
, Henery            4/12 Oh.
Spring, Levi        27 mw farm laborer Swit.
Billman, Samuel 19 mw farm laborer Swit.
Stalder, John       22 mw farm laborer Swit.

HH#197
Stalder, Nicholas 34 mw farmer Switzerland
, Elizabeth             34 Swit.
, Edward                  5 Oh.
, Louiza                   2 Oh.
, John                 9/12 Oh.
Kennen, Samuel 17 mw farm labor Swit.
Weber, Elizabeth 13 fw helps sister Oh.

ADAM STATLER

From what I've been told, my ancestor that "hopped the pond", Johan Adam Stader, came to America to avoid the persecution from being involved in the Antibaptist movement... I guess that would be enough incentive to overcome any fear of crossing the ocean blue... David
dstatler@mail.state.mo.us

Is anyone working on the Statlers in early Kansas.I am hunting am Adam Statler and Jan Cromer Statler who left Ohio in early 1860/70's and were reported to have been there when her mother applied for 1812 pension in 1879. Carrol Ann kinfinder1@aol.com

CASPER STATLER -All STATLER,

1.Casper b. abt 1740, m. 1765 to Rebecca WALTER. Shade, Somerset, Pa.

2. Samuel 1774, m. 1797 to Magdalena, Shade, Somerset, Pa.

3. Andrew, abt 1816, Shade, Somerset, Pa. All of this info is at LDS IGI which is on-line and in the their Fiche files. IGI they say, is solid by proof using extractions from public records and Wills or anything which PROVES the person LIVED. John L Statler montanan2@worldnet.att.net

I am a descendant of Casper Statler m. Rebecca Walter through their daughter Mary Statler m. John Lambert. Their son, Samuel Lambert (1790-1869) m. Sarah Good(1796-1861). Does anyone have the names of Sarah Good's parents or siblings? Elaine - treelinker@rushmore.com.

My mother was a Statler, a descendant of Casper Statler of Somerset County, Pennsylvania. When I published the Statler/Stetler/Stotler Newsletter in 1986 and 1987, I set up 17 Groups based on their residence in the 1790 census. I had not yet been able to firmly connect any of those Groups, nor had I traced any Group back to Europe. When I learned about Y-Chromosome DNA testing, I saw that as having very good potential to help trace these families back in time by linking various Groups.

Sandra Jones Hall shall@pacbell.net

From: David Statler dstatler@mail.state.mo.us 9 Jan 2003 08:29:57

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=statler&id=I06626

Mary Alice Blaylock Home Page: Statler Family Genealogy Homepage
If the family does not connect to the database then David is the person to contact as I only do the database and he does all the rest of the website. Mary Alice The Blaylocks

Ahnentafel, Generation No. 1

1. Casper STATLER was born 18 AUG 1743 in Palatinate Germany, and died 12 APR 1798 in PA. He was the son of 2. Christopher STATLER and 3. Catherine Margaret MAIDENNAME. He married Rebecca Regina WALTER 1762 in Carlisle Co. PA, daughter of Casper Joseph WALTER and Anna Barbara BAR. She was born 1746, and died 20 FEB 1826.

Children of Casper STATLER and Rebecca Regina WALTER are:
i. Casper STATLER born 19 APR 1767, and died 25 APR 1833. He married Anna Mary LAMBERT 12 JUN 1792, daughter of Jacob LAMBERT and Mary UPP. She died 1851.
ii. Mary B. STATLER was born 14 FEB 1768 in Stonycreek Twp., Somerset Co., PA, and died 14 FEB 1852 in Lambertsville, Stonycreek Twp., Somerset Co., PA. She married Johannes M. LAMBERT , Sr. 1783 in Bedford Co., PA, son of Jacob LAMBERT and Mary UPP. He born 12 OCT 1761 in Manchester, Dover Twp., York Co, PA, died 24 MAY 1844 in Lambertsville, Stoney Creek Twp., Somerset Co., PA.
iii. Elizabeth STATLER was born 1770, and died 25 JAN 1820. She married George LAMBERT, son of Jacob LAMBERT and Mary UPP.
iv. John STATLER born 1773 died 20 JUN 1844. He married Catherine LAMBERT.
v. Samuel STATLER was born 15 JAN 1776, and died 1850. He married Magdalena MOSTELLER. She was born 1774, and died 1848.
vi. Emanuel STATLER was born 1776, and died 1850. He married Catherine MOSTELLER. She was born 1781, and died 1836.
vii. Eleanor STATLER was born 1788, and died 26 MAR 1859. She married Peter SCHELL, son of John SCHELL and Elizabeth HILLEGAS. He was born 1 AUG 1784, and died 28 OCT 1862.

Ahnentafel, Generation No. 2
2. Christopher STATLER was born 1725 in Germany, and died in USA.
3. Catherine Margaret MAIDENNAME was born in Germany.

Children of Catherine Margaret MAIDENNAME and Christopher STATLER are:
i. Rudolph STATLER.
ii. Henry Jacob STATLER died 1790. He md Nancy SITES, daughter of Henry SITES.
1. iii. Casper STATLER was born 18 AUG 1743 Palatinate Germany d 12 APR 1798 in PA. He married Rebecca Regina WALTER 1762 in Carlisle Co. PA, daughter of Casper Joseph WALTER and Anna Barbara BAR. She was born 1746, and died 20 FEB 1826

From: David Statler dstatler@mail.state.mo.us 14 Jan 2003-I've got a few pictures of the Statler Cemetery at the Statler Family website on the Photo Album page. Included are Casper & Regina's headstones. http://www.jcn1.com/mabccs

MO Statler's

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~statler/statler/photoalbum/pichtml/statlergeorge.html

Sandra Jones Hall wrote: Jack,I am also a descendant of Casper Statler through his son John.I have Andrew as married to Sophia Wagner who died in 1859.According to the 1880 Census Andrew and Elonora had three children.Loretta born 1864, Cora Born 1869, and Lulu Jenetta born 1877. I also have that they had a son named Samuel who married Ethel Goughnour.I have also been to the Statler Cemetery but didn't record many tombstone.I do have a picture of Casper's but I can't read it. A transcription I have says 18 August 1743 to 12 April 1798. I can see my picture of Samuel's stone and it does say son of Jasper. The transcription I have says son of Joseph. Dates for Samuel Jan. 15, 1776 to May 17, 1860 There is another transcription online at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pasomers/cemetery/sh/statler.htm

spelling>When working on genealogy, a shift of thinking about spelling really helps. Spelling really varies, if you look at the transcription of the cemetery you will see Statler, Stetler and Stotler. All the same family. CASPER is the usual German spelling. Jasper is the English translation,in some records it is Gasper the French version. And most puzzling it is sometime Joseph, which I believe was a guess at an English translation. That spelling is especially associated with Casper's father-in-law Casper Walter. In the first Newletter I published March 1986 page 3, I go into more detail on spelling.

Newsletters are on the Statler Family website under Family documents:

http://www.jcn1.com/mabccs

ANDREW-SON OF SAMUEL-SON OF CASPER/JASPER

My great grandfather was Andrew Statler. His second wife was Eleanora Ling ( aka Ellen, or Elinora--- note: Eleanora is the spelling on her tombstone ). They had one child, my grandmother Lola (Statler) Chapman. Lola and her mother Eleanora were survivors of the 1889 Johnstown, Pa flood. My mother took me to the Statler cemetery in Shade Twp. Somerset Co.Pa.about 1946. I am in two pictures that were taken of tombstones there. The one is of Andrew's headstone and states that he died July 27, 1881 at the age of 65yrs 4 ms & 17 days. Which agrees with March 10, 1816 as date of birth. I see Andrew's first wife listed as Sophia Garber, but I have another unconfirmed name of Sophia Sorber as his first wife. Any help here? Now here is the item of interest. The second photo, per my mother, is the headstone of my GG grandfather Samuel Statler. It states very clearly: "Samuel son of Jasper"( NOT Casper) Statler. The years are hard to read but the month and days are readable. b. Jan 15, (177? the last number isn't clear but it looks like it is 1778) d. July 17, 18?? ( it looks like it is 1869 ). If 1869 and 1778 that would have made him 91???? The question is: Was there a Jasper or was the headstone wrong and it should have said Casper? Any thoughts on Jasper or confirmation of the dates?

Jack jackrodgers@worldnet.att.net

Fr Kinfinder1@aol.com 1-9-2003-children of Samuel who died 1804 are Jacob and Henry. Jacob was listed as orphan in will and Henry was born 1802 and died after 1850. He married Kesiah Ferrell. I am trying to figure out who the father of Samuel(died 1804) was, I believe he is a brother to Casper and Rudy and therefore they have the same father. No proof as of yet. My lines is Samuel Statler 1804 and the Emanuel you thought was his son is not his.By doing the math we can see the Emanuel you mention was born after 1804 when my Samuel did indeed die.I think my Emanuel may be the one married to Lydia Taylor and lived Bedford Cty. He died 1879 and was born 1798. Does anyone have any idea what happened to Jacob Statler a son of Samuel and Mary or Henry married to Kesiah Ferrell. He was born 1802 and died after 1850. They lived Somerset Cty. at one time. Carrol

Fr Kinfinder1@aol.com Wed, 15 Jan 2003-Anyone know of Henry Staler married to Kesiah Ferrell who was last known to be in 1850C in Somersett Cty., Pa? Also a Mary Statler widow of Samuel Statler who died 1804 in Franklin Cty Pa. They also had a son Jacob who moved to Berrien Cty Mich. He was age 79 and lived in Niles City, Berrien Cty., Michigan in 1880 C. He was aged 79 at that time. Carrol Ann

Emanuel is not the son of Samuel d 1804, I believe he is the son of Henry and Kesiah Ferrell, they were in Brothers Valley Twp. Somerset County in the 1850 and there was a child Emanuel age 2 in the household. As for Jacob there is a Jacob Statler 79 born PA in the 1880 census in Berrien County Michigan. Newsletter September 1986 page 1. Sandra 1-14-2003

1870 Ohio Census

Stateler Nichlas 66 M W SWIT OH Monroe Seneca Twp

Carol: I wonder if we are of the same line. I have Grandfathers who carried the Jacob and Samuel names and I know we have relation in Ohio who spell their name Statler that I have lost contact with. We spell ours Stateler.Marva Stateler

fr: kinfinder1@aol.com Could be, My Statlers lived in Richland Cty., Ohio and came from Franklin Cty. Pa. Samuel was their father and he married a Mary. He died in 1804. Sound familiar? Correction. The Statler you mention in Sacramento, California is my family and not the one you mentioned. He is mentioned in his Mother's will as having lived and died in the West. He left here with a group of men from our county to go seek their riches. He is the exact age mentioned in census you mentioned. We have never found where or when he died but I assume either a mining accident or from maybe a murder etc. I live in Ohio and we have quite a family here that came from Franklin Cty., Pa. Mainly Samuel Statler. We believe him to be a brother to Casper and Jacob as he is mentioned as witnesses for will. They all lived at the same place at one time. I am willing to learn of how you came to determine that Lamuel lived in Illinois.

Carrol Ann

Fr Kirby or Jessica or Judy" kstet@bright.net -I will need to look in my material, I do believe

my ancestor George Stettler served in the same Berks Co Militia...in Rev war..Caspar may have been the militia leader?

CHARLES STATLER

Charles A Statler had three sons-John A, Roddy S and Lewis born in PA.

1880 Census New Sharon, Mahaska County, Iowa
F. W. STATLER age 27 b OH Drayman father OH mother OH
Ella STATLER Wife Female age 27 b OH KHouse
both parents
Nellie STATLER Dau Female W 10M IA

On rootsweb's WorldConnect I found they were married 10 Feb 1875 MIAMI, OH

This checks with marriage records I have.

This means that Frank is most probably a descendant of Christian Statler who came to Ohio in the early 1800s. All the Statlers in Miami Co appear to be descendants of Christian. If no one else can id your Frank you need to look at 1860 and 1870 censuses for Miami Co Ohio. If Frank died after 1900 a death certificate should name his parents. That should be available from the state in which he died. Sandy

Fr "Sharon Statler" <SharonStatler@myfamily.com> Did Charles A. STATLER have a Son? 22 Jan 2003 To: STATLER-L-request@rootsweb.com

Dearest STATLER Cousins, I've been at the infamous "brick wall" with my STATLER ancestors for some time now. I've only been able to get as far as my ggGrandfather, Frank STATLER, b. 1852 in OH, and his wife Ella COLLINS STATLER. I checking out other STATLER lines that would have been born before him and see if one might lead me directly to him...
John STATLER b 1772 had a son Charles Augustus STATLER b. 1827 md Catherine AKE Jan 1852. Catherine AKE daughter of John AKE of Frederick Co MD. There are no children listed for them but, my ggGrandfather, Frank STATLER, was born "July 1852"!!! Could he be their son? He could have been born two months premature, or Catherine could have been "with child" two months prior to their marriage in January 1852. (Hey! It happened! *lol*)

I have Mary AKE md Peter PUTTERBAUGH Frederick Co MD so I know I'm related to this STATLER line, but not as directly through them, as I would like to be. I want to find that solid STATLER-to-STATLER connection.

Here's how my AKE-to-STATLER line comes out:
1 Peter PUTTERBAUGH, b. 1765, Frederick Co. MD
+ Mary AKE, b. 1775
2 John Ake PUTTERBAUGH, b. 15 May 1994, Huntingdon Co., PA
+ Mary Ann WISE, b. 12 Dec 1798, Huntingdon Co. PA
3 Sarah Ann PUTTERBAUGH, b. 29 Aug 1838, OH
+ Eli Hewue BOOMERSHINE b 28 Dec 1837, Versailles,Darke Co OH
4 Christina Jane BOOMERSHINE, b. 18 Mar 1864, Darke Co OH
+ Lewis C. REINHEIMER, b. IN
5 Florence Marie REINHEIMER b. 11 Feb ????
+ Clyde Franklin STATLER b 4 Sep1882 Oskaloosa Mahaska Co IA
(Clyde's father was Frank STATLER, b Jul 1852 mother, Ella COLLINS.)
Then my grandfather, Eugene Clayton STATLER and my father, Eugene Clayton STATLER, Jr., and myself. AKE came down through Clyde STATLER's Maternal line. But, because of the coincidence that Frank STATLER was born the very same year that Charles Augustus and Catherine were married, I have a feeling he just might be their son. I've been searching nearly 25 years!>Waiting patiently,>Sharon Statler

CURMELIUS STATTLER

Stattler <gstat@mtnia.com> 22 Oct 2002-My ancestor was Curmelius Statler from Ohio-His father was Issac. Curmelius served in the Civil War and settled in Pilot Township of Iowa Co. Iowa. If this sounds like any of your family, please make contact. Due to a mis-spelling of my father's birth certificate, we now spell it Stattler. Name was changed from Statler to Stattler on my father's birth certificate by the Doctor who attended and then carried to my birth certificate. My grandfather spelled his name with only one 'T' in the middle. I see this mis-spelled Great Grandpa's name again. "11 Statler, Carnisllus W. Union Infantry 28th Regiment, Iowa Infantry" I'm thinking that should be Curmillus, not Carnisllus. Gary

EMMANUEL STATLER

SJ Fike Statler bigsal10@hotmail.com > July 16 2001 "My husband is a Statler whose ggrfather was Emmanuel Statler fr Salisbury PA. Not sure abt connection to Stephen, although prob same line."Sally Statler

Fr Sandra-1-9-2003-I found Salisbury, Somerset County, PA on Map Quest south to the city of Somerset almost at the border with Maryland. Casper's family lived in the North East of Somerset County. In what is now Shade Township. They did spread out from there. There are several Emanuel Statlers or Stotlers early. Emanuel son of Casper. Shade Twp 1850 and 1860 census; Emanuel son of Jacob and Nancy Sites Allegheny County 1850; Emanuel possibly brother of Casper and/or Jacob d abt 1796 Franklin County PA.

1870 Census, Salisbury

Statler, Emanuel 21 Shoemaker

Susan 24

1880 Census, Salisbury

Statler, Emanuel 31

Susan 35

Morris 9

Eugene 7

Clarence 2/12

NOTE: I believe Emanuel is not a desc of Casper but of Samuel died Franklin County 1804. Sandra Hall

Emanuel son/o JACOB STATLER Wills: 1790: Antrim Twp, Franklin Co, PA

Franklin County, Pennsylvania Will Testators http://www.sampubco.com/

http://www.sampubco.com/wills/pa/pafranklin.html

Contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by descendant Suzanne S. Bettac suzybettac@juno.com 29 October 1999 Transcription of the Will of Jacob Statler>Franklin Co Pennsylvania Will Book A:169

In the name of God Amen I Jacob Statler of the Township of Antrim and County of Franklin being weak in body but of perfect mind, and memory (blessed be God) do this 19th day of February 1790 make and publish this my last will and Testament in Manner following (that is to say) First, it is my will that my plantation in bedford County Containing three hundred acres, together with as much of my Personal property as may be necessary, shall be sold by my Executors in order to descharge the debts which I am
now in . secondly I do will and bequeath to my beloved wife Nancy the one third part of the rents and profits arising from my Estate during her Natural life. Thirdly I do Will and bequeath to my four sons. Emanuel, Henry, John & Jacob, each twenty five pounds. Fourthly I do will and bequeath, to my sons, Emanuel, Henry, John & Jacob: and to my three daughters Elizabeth, Martha, & Mary, all the residue of my Estate Real and personal, to be divided equally between them, share and share alike, and that (if it should be found foracticable) without disposing of my lands; but if it should not be found practible or advantagious to my Heirs; in that case it is my will that my lands should be Disposed in such a manner as may in the discretion of my Executors appear most consistant with the Interest of my Children; and the mony arising from the sales thereof, divided as bequeathed. It is further my will that if my wife Nancy should marry again that then and in that Case, the advantages of the third of the rents and profits of my Estate before bequeathed to her shall cease and become void, and she shall then receive in Lew thereof out of my estate the sum of one hundred & twenty five pounds together with the one third part of my movable property which may have remained unsold after the payments of my debts as before directed. And I do further make and ordain my Father In Law Henry sights, and my brother samuel statler, Executors of this my will in trust for the intent and purpose in this my will contained. In witness whereof I have to this my last will and testament set my hand and sale the day and year first above. signed sealed and declared by the said Jacob statler, as and for his last will and testament in the presence of us who were present at the signing and sealing thereof. Jacob Statler (seal) Rudy Stattler Jacob Siegler

Franklin County - On the 12th day of March 1790 Rudy Statler and Jacob siegler the Witnesses to the forgoing writing appeared before me on the subscriber OC, and on their solomen oath deposeth and saith that they were personally present and saw & heard Jacob Statler aforesaid ^decd.
Sign his name unto & seal & publish the foregoing writing as it for his last will & Testatment and that at the time of the doing thereof the said Jacob statler was of sound & disposing mind memory & understanding to the best of their knowledge & belief that their names signed thereto is of their own hands writing done at the same time.
Sworn & subscribed before me the Date aforesaid. Edw. Crawford Jacob Sigler Rudy Statler
A true Copy taken from and Compared with the original remaining in the registers office at Chambersburg. Edw. Crawford, Register

EDIOTRS NOTE: Daughter Martha was married Archibald Coon in Pitt Township, Allegheny County, PA the 16th May 1799 by the justice of the Peace Rudolph Stotler. The children of Jacob and Rudolph used the surname STOTLER in Allegheny County.
Jacob is part of my Group 6 and Rudy/Rudolph is his brother. I don't have a DNA participant that is a descendant of his but I have a descendant of Rudy and another brother Samuel. Sandy

GEORGE V STETTLER born Aug. 31, 1739, died Apr. 23, 1815

JOURNEY FROM PENNSYLVANIA -The earliest known ancestor in our Stettler family is George Stettler who first appears in the 1768 tax list for Tulpehocken Twp., Berks Co., Pa. as a Labourer. George was born 31 August 1739, birthplace unknown.

He married Eva Catherine, probably in the early 1760s. She was born 16 February 1742, a daughter of Johannes Moyer (Mayer) of Tulpehocken Twp. On 15 June 1772 George Stettler purchased a plantation called "Huberton", 160 acres 75 perches, in Bethel Twp., Berks Co., Pa., from Frederick Huber. The indenture covering this transaction was not recorded until 10 February 1798. (Berks Co., Pa. Deed Book 16, page 141)

George and Eva Catherine had five sons and three daughters, all prob born Berks Co.:

George, b ?, d c 1832, m Teany (Christine)

Jacob, b ?, d 1849, m (1) Elizabeth (Strauss?), (2) Mary ?

Henry, b 13 Mar. 1769, d 26 Jan.'1825, m Anna Margaret Gundrum

Daniel, b 6 July 1773, d 15 May 1853, m Catherine Gehres

J. William, b 31 Mar. 1777, d 11 Feb. 1836, m (1) Catharine ? (2) Anna Maria ?

BREEZE0422@aol.com writes:

John T. or P. Stetler This was the closest I have found, age wise, in the Miracode which is all I have <G>
Eliz
Daniel Stetler Age: 41 State: PA Color: W Enumeration District: 0098
Birth Place: Pennsylvania Visit: 0058 County: Lycoming, Williamsport
Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: Relation Name Age Birth Place
Wife        Mary S 37 Pennsylvania
Daughter   Maud 19 Pennsylvania
Daughter Francis 17 Pennsylvania
Son John              15 Pennsylvania
Son Thomas        12 Pennsylvania
Son Robert          01 Pennsylvania

Eva Catherine, b 28 Sept.1778, d 3 Nov. 1862, m Abraham Pontius

Elisabeth, b ?, d ?, m1 Jacob Shupert Chadrina, b ?, d ?, m2 John Barlet

During the Revolutionary War George was enrolled during the period 1781-82 as a Private in Capt. John Fulmer's 8th Company, 2nd Battalion, Berks Co. Militia, according to the evidence of the Fine Book of Berks Co., page 27. George Stettler apparently lived on his farm in Bethel Twp., Berks Co. from 1772 until he and his family removed to Montgomery Co., Ohio in 1804. In the year 1803, four men from Tulpehocken Twp., Berks Co. came to Ohio to see the country and, if they liked it, planned to buy some property and move their families onto it. They found some land they liked about 60 miles east of Cincinnati which was owned by a man in Virginia. They met with the owner's agent in Ohio and contracted to purchase 1,000 acres, then started for Virginia to close the deal with the owner. However, by the time they arrived at the man s residence, he had died. Disappointed and exhausted from the trip, they returned to their homes in Berks Co. There they gave such glowing accounts of the State of Ohio that the "western ern fever" became an epidemic in the neighborhood. As a result, 24 families 2 decided to sell out and move to Ohio the following spring. A few in the meantime had moved to Center Co, Pa, but arrangements to join the group were made with them by letter. It was agreed that all would start at such a time as to meet in Pittsburgh on or about the same day. In this group from Berks Co. were our George Stettler, his children and grandchildren. George was nearly 65 years of age at this time.

Quoting from the book "Twin Valley" by J. P. Hentz, published in 1383: "They set out on their westward journey in the spring of 1804. Such a journey was at that time no small undertaking. It required many weeks for its accomplishment, and was attended by no small degree of danger and hardship. The goods, women, and children, had to be conveyed by wagon over rough mountain roads. The country through which the emigrants had to pass was yet but thinly settled: wild beasts, such as wolves, bears, and panthers, were still abounding in the forests; and Indians, more savage than savage brutes, were still lurking in forest and mountain fastness. At night they usually encamped by some stream, and whilst one party laid down to sleep, another kept watch around the encampment. Exposure and malaria often caused serious illness, and not unfrequently one fell a victim to disease and was buried by the wayside. Our friends, on their way through Pennsylvania, experienced many of these evils; they arrived, however, at the time agreed upon in Pittsburgh, without having met with any serious accident. Here they engaged riverboats, on which they put their chattels and families, and then paddled down the Ohio River. Cincinnati was their destination by water. After a trip of about a week they landed at the latter place. This event occurred on the 20th day of June, 1804. From Cincinnati they went to New Reading, a hamlet not far distant, where they tarried a fortnight, considering what next to do or where next to direct their steps. A few of them found employment here and remained, but to the majority this did not seem as their Canaan. They again took up their line of march, this time their course lay northward. They had heard of the Miami Valley, and desired to locate in it, but they had no definite objective point in view, trusting rather to fortune and the guiding hand of Providence. Some distance north of Cincinnati they entered this Valley, and were delighted with the country. It was so very different from the rugged mountain country which they had left in Pennsylvania. No mountains and rocks were to be seen here. The forests were much taller, 3 the soil was more productive, and the surface much more level, than in the country from which they came, They passed over many an attractive spot where they might have located, but they moved on, doubtlessly prompted and guided by the invisible hand of Providence, until they reached the vicinity of the present site of Miamisburg. Here lived a wealthy farmer, whose name was Nutz, and who spoke German. They were glad to meet a gentleman who spoke their own tongue. With him they stopped to rest and refresh themselves, and after forming his acquaintance, and finding him a genial and kindhearted man, they concluded to encamp awhile on his farm. It was now midsummer, and the weather being warm and pleasant, they took up their abode in the woods, where they lived in wagons and temporary huts, for about two weeks." A Mr. Philip Gunckel, being a man of superior intelligence and the only person among them who spoke the English language with any degree of fluency was for these reasons looked upon as the leader of the group. He searched the area looking for a proper location to build a mill, as he was by occupation a miller,"and at last found the object of which he was in search on Big Twin Creek, a branch of the Miami River. The precise point chosen by Mr. Gunckel was about six miles from the mouth of this stream, now within the corporate limits of Germantown. When he made known his decision to his companions, they all concluded to settle near around him. Upon this the encampment on the Nutz farm was at once broken up, the immigrants forded the Miami River, crossed over to the western bank, ascended the steep bluffs adjoining, and then traveled on in the direction of the Twin Creek. And here, by the side of this stream, they rested at the end of their long and wearisome journey ! Here now was their future home." Before winter set in they had secured land and erected some sort of dwellings. The first winter was a long and lonely one. They had harvested no crops the previous year, nor had they earned anything with which to procure the necessaries of life, having spent nearly the whole summer in their journey. Provisions, even it they had the means, would have been difficult to procure, As the settlers were but few, had just begun to clear away the forest, and did not raise more than their own wants required. Game was plenty, however. They did not starve during this winter, but they were obliged to live on small allowance. Early the following spring they went to work to clear away the trees, turn up the soil and sow and plant. Their hardest work, such as clearing, log-rolling buildings' and harvesting, was mostly done by crowds, collected 4 together for the Purpose from the entire settlement, They made, as they called it, a frolic of it; that is, they united into a sort of one-family arrangement, and did their work by succession, first on one place, then on a second and third, etc., until they had made the round, and had got through with all. They continued this habit of mutual assistance for many years and great harmony and good feeling prevailed among them. Religiously, they were either Lutherans or Reformeds; and as in those days it used to be said, that all the difference between the denominations was, that in the Lord's Prayer. the one said, "Vater Unser," and the other, "Unser Vater." The author goes on to extol the virtues of these Pennsylvania Germans who settled in the Twin Valley and states, "It is an honor to be descended of such a people, and to be united to such a kindred.

" Histories of Montgomery Co, Ohio tell that George Stettler and his five sons, William, Henry, Daniel, George and Jacob came from Berks Co., Pa. in 1804 and that George entered Sections 15 and 16 of Miami Twp. (at that time part of German Twp.) The term "entered" means that he was the first individual to own and 1 live on it, having purchased it directly from the federal government on18 July 1804. Sec. 15 was a fractional section of about 382 acres; Sec. 16 contained about 663 acres; in total about 1045 acres. Sec. 15 is bordered on the east by the Great Miami River. George settled his children over this land. Six deeds, all dated 11 December 1807, show that he "sold" tracts in Sections 15 and 16 to his children: 166 acres to Henry, 166 acres to Elisabeth (apparently still single at that time), 191 acres to Daniel, 166 acres to William, 191 acres to John Barlet (his daughter Chadrina's husband) and 165 acres to Abraham Pontius (his daughter Eva Catherine's husband). The selling price in each transaction was $10, which of course indicates that it was a gift of land. A few years later George sold two quarter sections in Sec. 5 in German Twp. to his sons George and Jacob for $100 each.

George Stettler's will was written in German and dated 13 Nov. 1814. It was filed for probate on I May 1815. He mentions his wife Eva Catharine and each of his children by name. He stipulates that each of the children is to have as his inheritance the land he is living on. With regard to his daughter Chadrina, however, he states that the land he had given John Barlet and his former wife Chadrina is all that Chadrina should receive as her inheritance. 5 Then he goes on to say that she is to get $150 which is for her or for her children but it is not to fall into John Barlet's hands. Within a few years of receiving his 191 acres, John Barlet had sold the land in two transactions. One wonders how George may have felt toward another of his sons-in-law.

In the book "Twin Valley" there is a short sketch about Abraham Pontius which reads: "This man is the last to be mentioned among the settlers of 1804. He located and lived in Miami Twp., and was not a very thrifty man. His name is here given mainly because he outlived all his associates. The least industrious, frugal, and useful--apparently-the one who could have been most easily spared-he long survived after all the rest were sleeping in their graves." Abraham Pontius and his wife Eva Catherine both died in 1862. He was 92, she 84. They are buried in the Stettler Church Cemetery. Curiously, nothing in our Stettler research seems to substantiate the description of Abraham Pontius quoted above. Could the author, Mr. J. P. Hentz, have confused the two sons-in-law? As mentioned previously, there were two church congregations, the Lutherans and the Refomeds, commonly referred to as the Gebhardt Church and the Stettler Church, respectively. The land for the Reformed church was given by the Stettler family. An agreement dated 26 August 1808 and recorded in Montgomery Co. Deed Book B, page 411, reads: "Daniel Stetler, William Stetler, Henry Stetler, John-Barlet bound by written obligation to convey to George Stetler 6 acres of land in Sec. 16 and fractional Sec. 15 to be used for purposes of having thereon a church or meeting house erected to go by the name of and be called "George Stetler's Church" to be used by Presbyterian or Lutheran or congregation who have united." All four men signed their names; their wives signed by mark. The congregation of the Stettler Church was actually founded in 1803, the first Lutheran Church in the State of Ohio, by the Rev. John Jacob LaRose, a Presbyterian minister. In 1976 the congregation merged with the St. John's Lutheran (Gebhart) congregation in Miamisburg. Several members of the pioneer Stettler family are buried in the Stettler Church Cemetery. Some tombstone inscriptions are: George V. Stettler, born Aug. 31, 1739, died Apr. 23, 1815. Eva Catharine, wife of George V. Stettler, born Feb. 16, 1742, died June 9, 1838. (Note: These tombstone inscriptions are the only known record of the initial "V." in George's name. gm)

Henry Stettler, died Jan. 26, 179 age 55 yrs 10 mo. 18 da. (Note: Apparently there was difficulty in reading this tombstone when it was copied in 1971. Baptismal records of the Altalaha Evang. Lutheran Church, Rehersburg, Berks Co, Pa. show 6 that Henrich, son of Georg Stettler, was born Mar. 13, 1769 and baptized on Easter Day. The administrator of Henry's estate was appointed 28 Feb. 1825. Henrys wife Margaret is buried in the old Willshire Cemetery, Van Wert Co, Ohio. She died in Oct. 1845, 65 yrs of age. gm) J. William Stettler, died Feb. 11, 1836, aged 58 yrs 10 mo. 11 da. Mary, wife of J. W. Stettler, died May 18, 1859, aged 82 yrs 8 mo. - da. Daniel Stettler, died May 15, 1858, aged 78 yrs 10 no. 15 ds. Catherine, wife of Daniel Stettler, died Nov. 27, 1863, 78 yrs 1 mo. 16 da. Thomas Stettler, died Sept. 4, 1881,-aged 78 yrs 3 mo. 11 ds. Elizabeth, died Aug. 9, 1877, aged 71 yrs. Abraham Pontius, died Dec. 16, 1862. (Note: no age given.) Eve Catharine, wife of Abraham Pontius, died Nov. 3, 1862, age 84 yrs I mo. 15 ds. During 1830s and 1840s number of families migrated from Montgomery Co onto new lands in Van Wert and Mercer Cos. Among these were Henry Stettler's sons Jacob, Daniel, George and John, and his dau Elizabeth, md John Bolenbaugh. Also making this move were J. Williams dau Margaret, md to Jacob Tickle, and Pontius and Sharrits families. They settled close together along the St. Marys River in Willshire Township of Van Wert Co. and Black Creek Township of Mercer Co. Here they cleared their farms and raised large families. Gene Mozley (Mrs. R. G.)327 Bon Air Drive Sept. 1979 Sidney, OH 45365

Sept. 1997 note from Kirby Stetler: Thanks to Gene Mozley for sharing this story with us. To put her last paragraph is a different kind of summary, heres what George V. Stettlers eight children did: Jacob stayed in the Miamisburg and Germantown area, in Montgomery Co. Oh. His son Michael moved to Indiana and this is the Glaze and Kerns Connection. Gene Cassman in Layfayette Indiana is descended from here. George Jr. stayed in Montgomery Co. Henrich stayed in Montgomery Co but after his death in 1825 his wife Margaret and their sons Daniel, George, Jacob, and John S. as well as a daughter Elizabeth Betsy (m. John Bolenbaugh) moved into the Willshire Van Wert Co. area. If I have this straight, Dicky and Donald Stetler descend from Jacob=s son Willis, and The Frank Stetler family descends from Jacob=s son Thompson. The David, Orlando, and Emmanuel Odus Stetler clan descend from Daniel. Orlando=s brother Edmund had children Elmer and Fannie and they settled in Plymouth Indiana. Daniel remained in Montgomery Co. Ohio. Chadrina married Johannes Barlet and stayed in Montgomery Co. At least one of their sons went to Butler and Warren Counties, Ohio. Eva Catherine Stettler married Abraham Pontius and remained in Montgomery Co. Their daughter Lydia married another George Stettler and moved to Willshire Twp. after 1833. J. Wilhelm Stettler remained in Montgomery Co. but his daughter Ann married Jacob Shupert and took the Ohio River over to Indiana and moved up to Elkhart. This is Allen Schiebers line. Another daughter married Jacob Tickle and moved up into Mercer and Van Wert Counties. Elisabeth married Jacob Shubert and went to Elkhart County, Indiana. A Shuppert descendant lives there. kstet@bright.net

Thanks go to Gene Mosely of Dayton Ohio for finding the story in the old book "Twin Valleys" (about the Ohio Miami Valley area). I've put this story onto some websites also. There appear to be two separate lines of Stettlers in PA in the mid 1700s. My branch purchased a farm north of Rehrersburg PA (which was just previously purchased from Richard Penn's "Manor of Andulhea") another "Abraham Stettler family" lived near the Allentown area. Thanks - Kirby Stetler

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/k/i/r/D-S-Kirby/

Henry Statler

Henry Statler/Stotler of Washington County Maryland enlisted in the German Regiment in 1776 at Hagerstown, MD He is in what I call Group 7. His son applied for a pension for his service. Sandy

David Statler <dstatler@mail.state.mo.us> Someone recently pointed me to the following website:> http://valleyforgemusterroll.org/

This page is dedicated to the 30,000 plus men who served at the Valley Forge Encampment under Gen George Washington during the period of Dec 1777 to Jun 1778.> Doing some searching, I found:

ID Number Last Name First Name State Rank Regiment> PA

17550 STATLER HENRY PA PRIVATE GERMAN PA

17151 STOTER PHILIP PA PRIVATE GERMAN

HANS PETER1 STETLER b 1680 d 1740. Children of HANS PETER STETLER are: 2. i. HEINRICH2 STETLER, SR., b. 1706, Zurich, Canton, Switerland; d. Sep 16 1763 Frederick Twp, Montgomery Co Pa.. 3. ii. JOHANN ADAM STETLER, b. 1710.

VALENTIN1 STETTLER was born Bef. 1764, and died 1815 in Union Co., Pa.. He married ELIZABETH UNK. Notes for VALENTIN STETTLER: Source: Making Vallentin Stettler the father of Nicholas Stetler. Deed Book F, Page 321, Union Co., Pennsylvania. This is a transcription of the release of Michael Gross and Nicholas Stetler as administrators of Vallentin's Estate.

"spurs mannmoon" mannmoon@hotmail.com Harry Myers

I took a look at the 1880 census index on the Monroe County GenWeb page. In Seneca Twp found a Nicklas STALDER and a Cristopher Stalder. Looks like they are Stalder/Stalter families, a name invented merely to frustrate Statler researchers. No, it really is a name, and there are quite a few of them in Ohio. Sandy

STEVEN STETTLER, a PA state legislator from York Co., PA. Fr David Statler http://www2.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/memberinfo/house_bio.cfm?districtnumber=95

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Descendants of Stephen Stadler [Stateler, Statler]-Inc George Statler and Elizabeth "Cecelia" Smeathers –dau of Wm Smeathers/Cecelia UNK

From Irene Baker; Fayette County Wills: Stradler, Stephen of Uniontown, Pennsylvania, Westmorland County will dated 9 January 1783 and probated 23 March 1783 names sons George, Michael and

John and a daughter Catherine Highly.

Note: Fayette County formed from part Westmoreland in 1783. Since Michael, George and Stephen are very unusual names for Statlers I think that Michael and John of Hanover Township, Licking County, Ohio are the sons of Stephen Stradler of Uniontown, Pennsylvania. The John Statler/Stateler who stayed in Monongalia County, (West) Virginia was probably the son of Jacob. All these men are most likely related.

It seems like the 3 brothers must go through each family although mine goes like this: 3 brothers left PA together to find new land and they ended up in Kentucky. They got into an argument on the way and took different spellings of their name. Stephen who stayed in Kentucky used Statler and George who came to Indiana used Stateler. I don't know for sure who the other brother was but I think it was Michael who also used Stateler. Stephen said in an interview for the newspaper that his father spelled his name Stradler. A few generations pass and again an argument between brothers ensue over politics and another brother leaves, never to return, he moves to Ohio and spells his name Statler. In my youth my Great Grandfather always said to remember that we were somebody special, we were Pa Dutch. I never knew why he thought that was special but I always believed him. Fr cuz Marva Stateler mstateler@aol.com

STATLER COAT OF ARMS -Origin of the name Statler is German and the Coat of Arms Divided into four parts of black and blue, a lion in the first and fourth part with a curved bar in the second and third. We have written an 1800-word history on Statler. A small excerpt from this Statler family history: Spelling variations include: Staedler, Stadler, Staedler, Stadtler, Stadeler, Staedele (Wuerttemberg) and many more. First found in Austria, where the name emerged in mediaeval times as one of the notable families of the region. Some of the first settlers of this name or some of its variants were: Johann Adam Stadtler, who came to Philadelphia in 1730. He was followed by Maria abd Catrina Stadleren in 1731, Johann Stadler in 1730, and Christian Stadler in 1738. David Stadelmayer came in 1750, Johann Wilhelm Stadellmann in 1740, and Frantz Stadel in 1732. Numerous bearers of the variation Stadelmann came to Brazil in 1876, including Anna, Catherina, Conrad, Heinrich, Johann, and Peter.

STADLER :
German, indicated a dweller near the barn or shed when not metonymic for one who was overseer of the barn for the lord, or a place name for one who came from Stadel 'barn' in Germany.

I was just reading along in the Statler digest and I am fascinated by your description of the Statler coat of arms. Where did you document it and where can I find a copy? I apologize if this is a subject you have covered before. I don't always read the digest and I am a too infrequent visitor to David Statler's incredible web site. I am a Statler through my mother, Joan Statler. Thanks for your time. -Andrew W. Edmonds, Jr. P.O. Box 3840 Greenville, DE 19807 a@awejr.com

Fr: Statler descendant MStateler 4-2002:Stephen Stradler immigrated from Baviaria Via Amsterdam and the Ship Speedwell that docked in Philidelphia on 25 Sept 1749. He went to Union Town Westmoreland Co PA. He listed his occupation as German Military.

**Stephen Stradler/Stateler** B c1710 Germany D bef 1783 Fayette Co PA

Occ German Military-lst wife is UNK.

M2)Susanna-Geo's mother. Stephen known to be fr Monongalia Co WV.

His will names son Geo to receive 200ac known as Stradlers fort at mouth of Dunkard Creek. Stephen was a resident of Springhill Twp Westmoreland now Fayette Co Pa at the time he dictated his will Jan 9 1783. Probated Fayette Co Mar 5 1784 names son George, Michael, John and dau Catherine Highly with ref to perhaps 2 more. Stephen served in Capt Speak's Co of Frederick Va Militia Sept 1758. r.toothman@worldnet.att.net

STATLER DNA DATA

From: "Sandra Jones Hall" <shall@pacbell.net> <STATLER-L@rootsweb.com>

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sandrajoneshall/

Group 10 Monongalia County VA Stephen, John and Jacob Stateler

The previous results received were for a Group 10 member and they exactly match the results of the other Group 10 participant. Group 10 has been verified by two matching results.

6915 Group 10: Descendant of Stephen Stradler/Stateler through his son George, who moved to Spencer County, Indiana. Via son Jacob of George Stateler. [Marva Stateler's line]

11960 Group 10: Descendant of Jacob Stateler/Statler through his son Joseph Stotler, who moved to Brown County, Ohio. Joseph Stotler of Brown County Ohio son of Jacob who died in 1778 (who Rick says is the #3 son of Stephen.) Joseph STOTLER born about 1771 had about 14 children.

Fr Mstateler@aol.com -Nena, my brother did the DNA. She put him in group ten. There was an exact match but she would not tell me who it was, there is also another match but she won't tell me that either. As far as I know, my brother had 2 matches. the exact match was not from someone doing DNA for our line. It was DNA from somewhere else in a DNA bank. Sandra did tell me he was adopted and looking for family. I did get an email address from her and emailed him but never got an answer. Of course my curiosity is on fire. An exact match from someone adopted that does not carry any of our names. How puzzeling. Marva

I had not yet been able to firmly connect any of the Groups, nor have I traced any Group back to Europe. Sandra Jones Hall

January 04, 2003 [STATLER] Statler/Stotler Surname DNA Reseach Project

I am coordinating a DNA project for the possibly related surnames of Stadler Statler Stetler Stotler and other variations.When I published the Statler/Stetler/Stotler Newletter in 1986 and 1987 I set up 17 Groups based on their residence in 1790. I have not yet been able to connect any of those groups. I believe that 13 of these Groups have living male descendants. Y chromosome testing could answer some of the questions such as:
Do the Stotler's of Morgan County West Virginia share a common ancestor with Casper Statler of Somerset County PA. Do the Statler's in Missouri relate to the Statler's in PA?
Do the Stadler families who came from Europe in the 1800's or 1900's match the Statler's in PA before 1790?
Do the Stateler families share a common ancestor with Casper Statler or any of the Stetler or Stotler Families?
Y chromosome testing provides only information about an unbroken male line, a man, his father, grandfather and on back so it is very suited for surname studies. No health information is obtained by the test. The test is usually made by collecting cells from the inside of the cheek with a small brush. I am very concerned with privacy issues and would do to meet any privacy issues. Unless a person is willing I will not share their name with anyone else. Of course I need to share the name of the ancestor. Please write if you have questions and know of someone who would be interested in taking the test. Sandy shall@pacbell.net

Monongalia Statlers
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~statler/statler/docs/monongaliastatlers.html

Statler Family Historical Documents

"Early Statlers of Monongalia County, (West) Virginia"
By Rick Toothman, Copyright 1992

The purpose of this sketch is not to provide a comprehensive genealogy of the Statler (1) family of Dunkard Creek, but rather to clarify some points that have been discussed incorrectly or misleadingly in print. The only extended coverage of this family, that of B.F. Wilson, seems to make some serious errors of date and fact but has been followed by most subsequent writers.

The family came to Monongalia from Hampshire County, VA, whose early records are sparse, their nature conditioned by the Fairfax Proprietary. Most of the pre-1796 records of Monongalia were burned. Nearly all the Statlers moved west, particularly to the Licking County, Ohio, whose early records were also destroyed. Reconstruction of this family depends to a large extent upon squeezing clues from documents that are not particularly genealogical in their own right. Family and neighborhood traditions can sometimes be of assistance, though with the same caveat that always applies.

STEPHEN STATLER, alias STRADLER, is the earliest identified ancestor (2). He was of German heritage and may have been of German birth. Prior to 1758 he settled on the upper South Branch of the Potomac, probably in present Hardy County WV. His name appears on the roll of Captain Thomas Speak's company of Frederick [and Hampshire?] County militia paid in September 1758 for prior service (3). About 1774 he moved to Dunkard Creek, just south of the later Pennsylvania-Virginia borderline, in what is now Clay District, Monongalia County, WV. Statler's Fort, well known in local history, was built upon his settlement claim (4). Near the fort, a few years later, enemy Indians killed [] one [perhaps two] of Stephen's sons. The settlement on Dunkard Creek, much exposed to the Indians, was virtually abandoned during the latter part of the Revolution and for a few years afterward. Many of the settlers moved into nearby parts of Pennsylvania [whose boundary with Virginia was, at the time, not yet determined]. Among these was Stephen Statler, who was a resident of Springhill Township, Westmoreland [now Fayette] County, Pennsylvania, at the time he dictated his will 9 January 1783. It was presented for probate in Fayette County 5 March 1784 (5) Five children are named in the will. There is good evidence of a sixth child, not mentioned, and the possibility of a seventh. John shoemaker and John Artman were nominated executors. Nothing is known of a relationship between either of them and Stephen Statler. There is no reference to a wife, but a power of attorney by Stephen's son and heir George Stateler names Susanna as the wife of Stephen (6).

From: <r.toothman@worldnet.att.net> "Sue Knight" <sue.knight@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Statler family 24 Oct 2002 17:33:52 -0400

Thanks for your e-mail! The discrepant stories about Statlers were what inspired me to straighten them

out. Stephen, born abt 1720?, probably somewhere in Germany or Switzerland, + in Fayette Co, PA, 1783 (or 84; I'm writing this without any notes); the only record, late, of his wife calls her Susanna but it's not known if he had one wife or two. There is a gap in his children's ages that always suggested to me he might have been married twice.

Fr Sandra Hall- Stephen Sr., not leaving even a crumb to the orphans of his son, Jacob, makes me wonder if they were brothers instead of father and son. The fact that one of Jacob's sons referred to his "grandfather Stephen" could then still be true if Stephen Sr's father was also a Stephen. In fact, Toothman mentions an estate proceeding in Hardy (?) Co. Va., c1765 of a "Step. Statler". He does not elaborate on it - so I don't know if there is any more documentation that just the mention of the case.

Children of Stephen Statler and an unk wife [or wives], order of birth undetermined were:

1.John Statler b 1733/40 d 1825 md Eve [Bryerly] widow of Thorn and lived near Blacksville; moved, with all of his family, to Licking Co, OH, very early 1800s
Fr Sandra Hall-I refer to John Sr as the John who married Eve (Byerly) Thorn. That was how he was known in the tax lists of Licking County, Ohio.

2. Catherine Statler born c1740, married George HILEY

3. Jacob Statler b 1740-45 d 1778 md UNK whose name is not given in any source known to me.

4. Joseph Statler born abt 1740/50, reportedly killed by Indians 1778 Statler’s Fort Monongalia Co but no contemporary record of it; if so, unmarried and no known issue [DNA desc participant] y

Fr Sandra Hall -NO! there is no record except a mention in a local history that this Joseph ever existed. If it were me I would not have included this person in any list. The Joseph whose descendant took the DNA test is Joseph Stotler of Brown County Ohio son of Jacob who died in 1778 (who Rick says is the #3 son of Stephen.) Joseph STOTLER born about 1771 had about 14 children.

5. Michael Stateler b 1762 d 1842 md1 Sarah md2 Mary 'Polly' Dunlap Bold moved to Ohio

6. George Statler b 1766 d Sep 1836 md Elizabeth Cecelia Smeathers 1808 he moved to KY 1797 inherited the land of Stephen, which included Statlers Fort; this is the same tract later owned by SHRIVER, which CORE describes as one of the best on Dunkard Creek. Jacob's tract lay just below this one.

[DNA desc participant]

7. Stephen Stateler b 1770 d 1856 md Rhoda Pigman was JP and sheriff in Ohio Co, KY

Group 10 Statlers fr Sandra Hall http://www.jcn1.com/mabccs/

"Statler/Stetler/Stotler Newsletters" they are online at the Statler Webpage under Family Documents.

(1) The spelling "Stradler" is also found in early records, Outside WV, the more common spelling seems to be "Stateler," and this is also the preferred pronunciation in WV. Members of the family are styled below, is faithfully as possible, in the version of the name used by them.

(2) Ross B. Johnson, WEST VIRGINIA ESTATE SETTLEMENTS (Baltimore, MD, 1977,reprint), 26, shows a 12 March 1765 inventory of "Step Straddlers" estate in Hampshire County. Johnston's book is based upon abstracts of county records made by the Historic Records Survey. I was unable to locate such an entry in the HRS files at West Virginia University. It is conceivable that this man might have been the father of Stephen (d. 1784), but there seems to be no other trace of him.

(3) Lloyd DeWitt Bockstruck, VIRGINIA'S COLONIAL SOLDIERS [Baltimore, MD, 1988], 211; William A. Crozier, VIRGINIA COLONIAL MILITIA [Baltimore, MD, 1965, reprint], 71-72.

(4) Earl L. Core, THE MONONGALIA STORY [Parsons, WV, 1974], 1:273, citing certificate to George Stradler, heir of Stephen, for 200 acres "known as Stradlers Fort." "[Learner B.] Stateler's grandfather had a fort at the mouth [sic] of Dunkard Creek, where [his son Stephen] was born and reared, and at a time when the country was new and wild and the Indians were troublesome." Rev. E. J. Stanley, LIFE OF REV. L. B. STATELER: A STORY OF LIFE ON THE WILD FRONTIER [Nashville, TN, 1916], 1. Among others, the pensions of Henry Batten (S31542) and William Wilson 2nd (S7907) refer to militia service at Statlers Fort. For a useful map of early surveys in the neighborhood, see WENDEL BROWN & DESCENDANTS 2 [1983]: 230-231.

(5) Fayette Co., PA Willbook 1:11-12, as Stradler," Witnesses, of no known relationship, were John Griffeth, Eleanor Griffeth, and Robert Richey.

(6) Daviess Co., KY, Deeds A: 50-51.

Children of Stephen Statler

1^st child b John Statler

John Statler Sr B May 4 1740 Germany D Feb 22 1825 Clay Twp Monogalia Co WV Bur place Shivers Cemetery Clay Twp Monogalia Co WV

+ Eve Bryerly 1765, widow of Tobias Thorn Hampshire Co Va. 1816

JOHN Statler-THE MONONGALIA STORY- A Bicentennial Hist by Earl L. Gore 1974

pg154-Deckers Creek settlement 1758 John Statler/Stradler md Mrs Thorn.

Page 279-Picture of RoadSide Marker for Statler's Fort says it was built by John Statler in 1770.

Eighteen men lost their lives in 1778.

Page 330-Peter Haught Senr 400 acres on Statler's Run.

Page 342-Two spellings and three pronunciations of Statler's Fort.

Page 355-Item on Fort Statler that says it was built by Jacob Statler (pronounced Staytler). *****

gave evidence in Monogalia lawsuit

1. JOHN STATLER, probably the oldest son of Stephen, was born about 1740 and died after 24 August 1816, perhaps in Licking County, Ohio. He received a bequest of 5 shillings in Stephen's will. Although there is no explicit documentation of identities, it appears that Stephen's son is the elder John Statler, who was married about 1765 to Eve (nee Bryerly), the widow of Tobias Thorn of Hampshire County, Virginia, and who settled about 1770 at Dunkard Creek, Monongalia County (7). He was in service During Dunmore's War, in the militia company of Zackquill Morgan (8) and claimed land as an assignee under the act of 1779, although his early arrival in the area is noted elsewhere (9). John Statler appears to have moved to the state of Ohio sometime around the year 1800, though he returned to Monongalia on several occasions. His wife may have died prior to 1815 (10). It has been written that John Statler was killed by Indians during the Revolutionary War, but this is incorrect. Repetitive given names have probably led to some confusion of identities, as have the efforts earlier in this century to discover the origins of Christina (Statler) Brown, of Monongalia (11). By her first husband, Tobias Thorn, Eve Bryerly was the mother of one child: i. Michael Thorn, before August 1764-after 28 November 1804, m Catherine----(12)

Only one child of John and Eve Statler is positively identified to date, but there is reason to believe there were several others. As known and as speculated.

Talks abt the Fort that John Statler built and Joseph being killed by Indians.

John being son of Stephen, & bro to George.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/2465/statlergen/ostatlers.html

http://www.wvculture.org/history/journal_wvh/wvh1-2-4.html

Fr Bob McGill- The Nethertons and Toothman both postulate that John Stateler, Sr. had 3 sons: John, Jr., Jacob and Joseph. The descendants of John,Jr. are the 8 children listed in Licking Co. Chancery records: Stephen,David,Jacob,Martin,Mary Ann,Malinda,Margaret, and Sarah (Vol P, 1841-44,Licking Co,Ohio, p379 and Vol T, p75-81). No Joseph. The second son of John Sr and Eve Stateler, Jacob, appearently died c1800 as there was an attachment against his estate naming garnishees as Andrew Myers, Hannah Stateler(wife ?), and John and Eve Stateler (parents). As he died before 1811, he cannot be the father of our Joseph. This leaves the third son,Joseph,as the only descendant of John,Sr. who might be OUR Joseph's father. My strongest supposition is that he is a grandson of John Stateler, Sr.(1733-1826) by an unk son.

Children of John Statler sr & Eve Bryerly probably include:

i. Christina Statler, m. Adam Brown

1.CHRISTINA STATLER, 1767-23 June 1854, daughter of John and Eve (Bryerly) Statler. She md about 1784 and probably in Fayette County, Pennsylvania, to Adam Brown (c1760/61-22 January 1825), son of Manus Brown. They settled in Monongalia about 1800, taking up most of the George Hiley tract by purchase. After 1850 Christina moved to Bureau County, Illinois, where she died in the home of a daughter. Some older DAR lineage show Christina as the daughter of Rudolph Statler of Lancaster County, PA, but these are based on a confusion of identities. Christina's correct parentage has been established. (34)

34. Adam BROWN was born in 1761 in, Lancaster Co., Pennsylvania. He died between 1820 and 1825 in, Monongalia Co., West Virginia. He has reference number 34. He was married to Christina STATLER in 1784 in South Union Twp., Fayette Co., Pennsylvania.

35. Christina STATLER was born in 1767. She died on 23 Jun 1856 in Illinois. She was buried in Lone Tree Cem. Putnam Illinois. She has reference number 35.

ii. Eve Catherine Statler, m. Joseph Parrish c1790

2. EVE CATHERINE STATLER, c1770? -after 1830?, Probable daughter of John and Eve Statler. Circumstantial evidence suggests that there was a daughter of this man who married, c1790, to Joseph Parrish and who moved first to Licking and then to Sandusky County, Ohio. (35)

iii.John Stateler jr, m. Mary ----- c1797

3. JOHN STATELER [Jr.], c1774-22 February 1840, probable son of John and Eve Statler. He md Mary-(c1765-6 November 1850) and lived in Licking County, Ohio. (36) 8 kids- listed in Licking Co. Chancery records: Stephen, David, Jacob, Martin, Mary Ann, Malinda, Margaret, and Sarah (Vol P, 1841-44,Licking Co, Ohio, p379 and Vol T, p75-81). No Joseph-Fr Bob McGill

Fr Sandra Hall-There appear to be three brothers in Marshall County IL
David bought 3 parcels of federal land starting in 1834-Acc/t 1850-1880 census born abt 1806/7 Ohio
1880 he had a brother Martin living with him age 83-I don't find Martin with any children.
So David, Martin and probably Jacob are brothers born 1796 to 1807 I believe the most likely father for them is John Jr who living in Licking County Ohio and John Jr is very likely son of John of Licking Co

"Hanover Cemetery Inscriptions" published by The Johnstown Historical

Society: Mary Stateler, wife of John, died November 6, 1850, age 85 years, 10 months, 6 days. [b 1765]

John Stateler, died February 22, 1840, age 66. [b 1774] -thank Irene Baker for the above information.

Children of John jr

The below Jacob is the probable son of John JUNIOR. NOT the son of John and Eve The Jacob below is

in the 1840 and 1850 census in Marshall County Illinois

1880 Tx Census

L D STATELER            Self M Male   W 55 OH Farmer   VA OH
Martha M STATELER Wife M Female W 45 IN   K House VA TN
Josephine STATELER Dau S Female W 14 IL                   OH IN
Laura E STATELER     Dau S Female W 12 IL                   OH IN
Dora Etta STATELER Dau S Female W   4 TX                  OH IN
**Jacob STATELER Father W Male     W 93 VA Farming GER GER b 1787 or 1777 ?
[this very interesting fella....looks like he went fr Va to Ohio & his son LD born there then they went to Tx]
Source Information:Census Place E.D. 121, Van Zandt, Texas
Family History Library Film 1255330 NA Film Number T9-1330 Pg 72A

Fr Sandra Hall- Jacob's age in the 1880 census is ten years off.
In 1840 he is in Marshall County, Lyon Prect. age 40 to 50
In 1850 he is in Marshall County age 54 born Ohio.
So in 1880 he should be about 83-84.

LD Stateler is Lemuel Stateler a fairly easy name to track.
I first noticed him in the 1850 California Census:
Lemuel Stateler: Sacramento page 187 age 24 born Ohio.

1860 in Marshall Ill with wife and 3 children.This ties him the Marshall County Statelers.

iv, Jacob Statler b (c1776-c1800) poss. m Hannah LNU c1799 ? [fr Bob]

Fr Sandra- This Jacob lived to 1850 in Ohio I have no information on a wife.

Fr Sandra- The second son of John Sr and Eve Stateler, > Jacob, apparently died c1800 as there was an attachment against his estate naming garnishees as Andrew Myers, Hannah Stateler(wife ?), and John and Eve Stateler (parents). As he died before 1811, he cannot be the father of our Joseph. Actually the dead Jacob is the one who died in 1778 John Sr. probable son Jacob, moved to Morrow County see my newsletter. 1986 #3 page 8-9 Had sons Andrew, John and Jacob. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~statler/statler/docs/snewsletters/sn0986.html

4. JACOB STATLER, b c 1774 probable son of John and Eve Statler. Dates and marital history unknown but found living 1797/1800 in Monongalia County. (37)

The note from John Statler: "I have info which makes me believe the father of James 1805 STATELER was Jacob b c1774 STATELER who, 1828 lived with his family Tully Township, either Marrow, Marion or Crawford Co Oh. >John Statler" This Jacob is probably the son of John and Eve Beyerly Thorn. He can't be the son of Monongalia County because he is about the same age.

(30) Statler vs Core and Hiley, supra. The bill seems to indicate that John Stateler's mother died prior to the 1784 survey made for him by George Hiley, who was then acting as John's guardian.

(31) Alexander Scott Withers, CHRONICLES OF BORDER WARFARE, (Cincinnati, OH, 1896, reprint), 249, is the first and basic printed account. Wiley, op cit., 66-67, offers some variants from local tradition. Wilson, op cit., 73-35, reprints a narrative by L. K. Evans which stems mostly from Withers. Dorothy T. Hennen, 1776-1976: A Time to Remember (Waynesburg, PA, 1977), 70-72, reprints the pension declaration of Hesekiah Wade, an eyewitness. See also Earl L. Core, Chronicles of Core (Parsons, WV, 1975, 3rd edition), 11. The pension declaration of Andrew House says that Statler's Fort was burned and that House and companions pursued the Indians to the Ohio, surprising and killing two of them--information not mentioned in other accounts. Howard L. Leckey, The Ten Mile Country and its Pioneer Families (Waynesburg, PA, 1950), 1:25. Wiley comments: "Still other accounts of this fatal surprise are in existence...Some are mixed with the attack on Ft. Martin, and others bear in their statement the stamp of the impossibility of their correctness, and others again did not stand the test of a careful examination of being probable or even possible" (op cit., 67n). William Wilson 2nd speaks of militia garrison duty at Statler's Fort after the date House alleges it to have been burned. Relatively few incidents of Indian warfare in the upper Monongahela valley are satisfactorily documented. To a very great extent the ultimate source of knowledge is Withers' book, first published in 1831.

(32) This name is very indistinctly written in the bill of complaint. Cf Chalkley, op cit., 2:147, 265, abstract of Lowther vs Keller, a case in Augusta District Court. Reference is made to a John Sulser, who died before 13 April 1795 in Fayette Co., PA, and who had owned land in Monongalia (later Wood) Co., VA. This may be the man involved in administration of Statler's estate. The bill in Statler bs Core and Hiley says of Celcir that he obtained an influence in the family by his suretyship but does not accuse him of any misfeasance, as it does George Hiley, whose influence was by suretyship "and other means".

(33) Wiley, op cit., 67. The turkey gobble ambush is a frequent motif in literature of woodland Indian warfare. Wilson, op cit., 75 assigns this incident to 1780 but seems to derive all knowledge from Wiley.

(34) WENDEL BROWN, 2:144ff, 162ff, for articles on Christina's parentage and descendants, based in part on documents located by this writer. The Brown family had been neighbors of the Statlers on the South Branch. Manus and Adam Brown, the father and uncle of Christina's husband, were to be deposed in re: Craigen vs Thorn, supra, John Statler testified that "I live [at Adam Brown's] as a relation, being the father of Mrs. Adam Brown."

(35) This statement based on research conducted for and extensive correspondence with Irene Parrish Baker, Elk Rapids, MI, who is preparing her materials for publication.
(36) Dates from stones at Hanover Cemetery, Licking Co., Ohio, supplied b to me by Irene Baker. Hill, op cit., 460, has some brief anecdotal material. A John Stateler, probably the same man, was in service from Licking Co. during the War of 1812. Hill, 393. Wilson, op cit., cites tradition that Christina Statler (1767-1854) had brothers John, Jacob, and Joseph. Although Wilson identifies them as men supposedly killed by Indians in the 1770's and 1780's, it nonetheless seems that there were Statlers of these names, not otherwise identifiable, who appear in a context to have been Christina's brothers.

(37) John bills vs Jacob Statler, MCR env 46 (indexed as Joseph Statler), a 1797 attachment. John Hiley vs Jacob Statler, MCR env 114, a March 1800 attachment bond against the "estate" of Jacob Statler, names as garnishees Andrew Myers, Hannah Statler, and John and Eve Statler. Some personal property was levied. MCR env 115, a road petition of c1800, from Miracle Run, is signed by Jacob Stradler, John Statler, and Joseph Parrish. Jacob is not taxed in Monongalia from 1800 onward and may have died or departed.

v.Hannah c1780-9 Jun 1856 in Woodford, Ill md John Radcliff 21 Oct 1802 Fairfield Co., Ohio.

5. Hannah Stateler

Fr Bob- Hannah Stateler Radcliff is in the 1820 Census of Licking Co., Franklin Twp. 100100-12010. Her husband died in Licking Co., betw 1810-1820. Four ch are known: Martha,Stephen,Catherine (bc1808-27 Mar 1838 Licking Co.),Permilia(6 Oct 1811-8 Oct 1863 in Woodford Co.,IL). Descendants are listed on Rootsweb. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi

vi. Joseph Statler b (c1782-c1820/30) m UNK

6. Joseph Statler

Fr Sandra- I would say UNK(possibly Joseph)Father of Joseph b 1811, Polly Stump etc. [Bob]

(7) Craigen vs Thorn, OS 73; NS 25, Circuit Court, Augusta Co., VA. This case, from files of the old District Court, is abstracted in Lyman C. Chalkley, CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTCH-IRISH SETTLEMENT IN VIRGINIA (Baltimore, MD, 1980, reprint) 2:9. At issue was land formerly belonging to Mrs. Statler's first husband. Marriage of John Statler to Widow Thorn is recited in the case papers. Date of Tobias Thorn's death is variously given by witnesses, but it appears that he died prior to 13 August 1764, when Eve Thorn gave bond as guardian for her son Michael. HISTORIC RECORDS SURVEY (Hampshire Co., VA), reel 44. Numerous bonds, inventories, and other loose papers, whose present whereabouts seem to be unknown, are described in the HRS abstracts. Chalkley's description of Craigen vs Thorn is a generally faithful, though abridged, treatment of the original papers.

(8) Bockstruck, op cit, 144.

(9) Statler took up land as assignee of David McMahon, whose settlement was made in 1770. Monongalia Surveys, 3:357. His early arrival is mentioned in passing in John Downer vs John White, Monongalia Court Records, WVU Library [hereafter cited as MCR], env 55.

(10) John Bills vs Alexander Clegg, Joseph Parrish, and John Statler, MCR env 118-A, includes statement that Statler was a non-resident in 1801. Similarly, Samuel Minor vs Michael Thorn and Jon Statler, MCR env 122-B, includes summons which identify both defendants as "no inhabitants", June, August, and November 1802. By his own testimony, Statler was in Monongalia in August or September 1815 but returned to Ohio shortly afterward. It appears that his wife was not with him. He was again in Monongalia 24 August 1816, when he made a deposition regarding certain events of the previous year, and he was at that time about to remove fr the commonwealth once again. Sarah Jenkins vs John Brown, MCR env 182-A

(11)"John Statler and James Piles were tow of the four men killed" [in the Dolls Run ambush]. Samuel T. Wiley, HISTORY OF MONONGALIA COUNTY, WV [Kingwood, WV, 1883), 66. All other authorities agree that it was JACOB Statler, not John, who was killed at this time. "John Statler was killed by Indians in 1780 near the mouth of Dolls Creek." B. F. Wilson, GENEALOGY OF THE MITTONG FAMILY AND CONNECTION [np, 1927], 73, with no authority cited.

(12) Craigen vs Thorn, supra, names Michael as the only child of his parents. Although Minor vs Thorn and Statler identifies both men as non-residents during most of 1802, on 6 September of that year Michael and Catherine Thorn conveyed to Samuel Minor 100 acres on Dunkard Creek, part of a larger tract granted to John Statler. Monongalia Deeds, OS 2:554. There is no recorded conveyance from Statler to his stepson Thorn. N. N. Hill, Jr., HISTORY OF LICKING COUNTY, OH (Newark, Oh, 1881), 250, 401 reports that Michael Thorn, from the Monongahela, settled in Licking (then Fairfield) in 1802. Thorn's response to the Craigen suit was prepared in Fairfield Co., 28 November 1804. The response says that he was taken over the Alleghenies when about a year old, though it seems likely he was not quite so young as this when his stepfather moved from the Potomac to the Monongahela.

2nd child of Stephen

2. CATHERINE STATLER, b 1735, daughter of Stephen. The will refers to daughter Catherine, to share in personally, as well as daughter Catherine Highly, elsewhere bequeathed five shillings. I take them to be the same person. She has not been positively identified, but it would appear that she was the wife of George Hiley of Monongalia. In 1758, George Hiley was fined for missing a private muster in Captain Thomas Speak's company, Frederick Co., VA. (18) Stephen Statler was paid for service in the same company. George Hiley claimed 400 acres on Dunkard Creek, by virtue of a 1770 improvement, and adjoining the 1772 claim of Rudolph Hiley. (19) Rudolph was in service under Captain Zackquill Morgan in 1774, along with John Statler. (20) George Hiley was one of the bondsmen for Mrs. Jacob Statler, administratrix of her husband's estate. John Stateler, the heir of Jacob, described Hiley as having "by his Suretyship and by other means an influence in the family", and further indicates that Hiley acted as his guardian, without appointment, and converted to his own use a portion of the land that was rightfully Stateler's inheritance. George Hiley died sometime between 1788-1790, when Charles Martin made a note payable to Catherine and Abraham Hiley, his administrators (22) Catherine was the widow of George Hiley and retained dower interest in his real estate, title to which had passed by purchase to Adam Brown, son-in-law of John Statler (23) In a lawsuit, Brown states that Catherine Hiley sold her dower to John Bills, who had sold it to Brown; that the purchase called for an annuity of $10 per year, payable to Catherine Hiley and for which John Dent was receiver; "whether sd Chatharine [sic] is dead or alive this Respd knoweth not." It would appear that Catherine Statler, dau of Stephen, was wife of George Hiley (d. c1788/90) and that the "other means" by which George gained and influence in the affairs of John Stateler son of Jacob was his in-law relationship.

Hiley appears to have had eight children.

(24) Whether Catherine Statler was his only wife is undetermined, but some of the following persons are perhaps descendants of Stephen Statler (died c1784).

i. Abraham Hiley, born c1757 in Hampshire County, VA, pensioned 1834 in Perry Co., IN, for Revolutionary War service. Married Mary ---. (25)
ii. Mary Hiley, married James Levingstone. (26)
iii. Catherine Hiley, Married Hezekiah (alias Uz) Marshall (27)
iv. John Hiley, died c1805, married Susannah Downer (28). She remarried to William McCormack and apparently moved to Brooke County, Virginia.
v. Christina Hiley, c1760's-17 June 1849. Married, 1784, Joseph Eichelberger (alias Hackelbander). (29)
vi.-viii. Unidentified.
(18) Bockstruck, op cit., 347.

(19) Core, op cit., 1:182, 209. Rudolph Hiley's claim was assigned to Thomas Day, of Montgomery Co., MD. John Day et al vs Joanna Chipps et al, Monongalia Court Records env 128. A Michael Statler is named as defendant in this suit, but case papers do not indicate what his involvement was.

(20) Bockstruck, op cit., 144.

(21) John Statler vs Michael Core and Abraham Hiley, Monongalia Court Records env 122-C. Statler claimed that part of his land had been left out of the survey and was later entered in the name of Hiley's son Abraham, who conveyed it to Michael Core.

(22) Catherine and Abraham Highly vs Charles Martin's Executors, Monongalia Court Records env 128.

(23) Susannah Hiley and William McCormack vs Adam Brown, Monongalia Court Records env. 211. Susannah was apparently the widow of John Hiley, who died c1806 and who appears to have been a son of George, although relationships are not explicitly stated in the file. She later married McCormack.

(24) Deeds relating to George Hiley's 273-acre tract as it surveyed out indicate that he was survived by eight children, as the shares work out to approximately 43 acres each. Not all the deeds survive however. Manus Brown, the father of Adam, seems to have purchased 205 acres of the tract, which was conveyed to Adam Brown by other sons of Manus in 1799. WENDEL BROWN 2 (1983):232-233. One of these was the share of Christina Hiley Eichelberger, it would appear.

(25) Monongalia Deeds, OS 2:388. Abraham and Mary Hiley, Breckinridge Co., KY to Adam Brown, conveying interest in George Hiley real estate. Hiley is also identified as George's son in Statler vs Core and Hiley. His age cited from Revolutionary pension application in A&M 501, Marian Tapp collection, WVU Library, "Hiley" folder. I have not seen his pension file. Numerous references to this man in abstracted records of BRECKINRIDGE C0. KY GENEALOGIST.

(26) Monongalia Deeds OS 2:388. James and Mary Levingston et al to David Piles, n.d., 1801, conveying 68.25 acres formerly belonging to George Hiley.

(27) Ibid., Uz (signed Hezekiah) and Catherine Marshall et al to David Piles, n.d., 1801, conveying 68.25 acres. Only Hezekiah Marshall signs the conveyance.

(28) Hiley and McCormack vs Adam Brown, loc. cit. MCR env 84-a, Sarah Boyles vs Susannah Hiley, indicates Susannah was daughter of John Downer, who had fraudulently entered a number of surveys in his daughter's name. Brown's response in Hiley and McCormack vs Brown states that Susannah was the wife of John Hiley, whom Brown now believes to be dead. The bill is ambiguous regarding her marital history.

(29) Wendel Brown 2:232 cites a land book entry, 1791, showing conveyance of 34 acres from Joseph Ekelberger to Manus Brown, the deed no longer of record in Monongalia. Cf Patrick G. Wardell, VIRGINIA/WEST VIRGINIA GENEALOGICAL DATA FROM REVOLUTIONARY WAS PENSION AND BOUNTY LAND RECORDS (Bowie, MD, 1990), 2:74-75. Joseph Hackelbander applied for pension in 1834 from Clermont Co., OH. His file indicated that he was also known as Eichelberger, among other spellings. He married Christina Heighly in 1784 while living at Beesontown (now Uniontown) PA. She must have been a daughter and heiress of George Hiley of Monongalia. Her husband died in Clermont Co., 10 December 1845, age 98 by his own count.
David Brown d_brown@pipeline.com -It's been a couple years since I last asked, so I thought I'd ask this question again of you Stradler/Statler researchers. I am searching for info on my gggg-grandmother Catherine "Straddler" md George Tope (1761-1845) in PA about 1780. The only other info we have is she had twelve children by George Tope, from 1782 to 1801. George remd 1804 (and had an additional 12 children!). As for Joan's data, I have not been convinced that she is correct in making the leap to the connection. Do you have any information on your Catherine's life after George Hiley's death? Dave >

[Catherine Stateler B c1740 Germany d bef 1795 +Highly]
NOTE:website of Joan Redondo says she m a Geo Tope & had 10 kids? She has Stephen Stateler as her father-not sure if this is correct.ns-2002]

3rd child of Stephen

Jacob 'Jake' Stateler b

Many people are confused about this family. The only Statler/Stateler family in Monog. County after 1830 is that of John who is the son of Jacob killed 1778. Please review my web page on Group 10 for what I believe are the first two geneations. Rick Toothman does not have the same ideas. From: Sandra Hall shall@pacbell.net

Jacob 'Jake' Stateler B c1740/50 probably in Hampshire Co., Virginia D c1778 at Dolls Run, Monongalia Co although the date is not precisely known. Indian attack at Statler’s Fort Monongalia Co

Only Jacob is well documented as having died in 1778. Sandra Hall

From the History of the Mittong Family

"according to tradition, the body of Jacob Statler who was killed on this occasion was buried near the state line. A few years ago his bones were exposed, caused by erosion in the soil. The citizens living in this neighborhood had them recoffined and re-interred with honors of war in the presence of a large assemblage of patriots who marched to the tunes of martial music, with flags flying, in all the pomp and glory suitable for such occasion."

JOHN Statler-THE MONONGALIA STORY- A Bicentennial Hist by Earl L. Gore 1974

Jacob Statler for whom Jake's Run (or Statler's Run) is named was killed by Indians in 1778.

Pg173-George Stradler agreeable to last will and testament of Stephen Stradler intitled 200ac Dunker

Creek known as Stradler Fort and adjoining lands claimed by heirs of Jacob Stradler. Settled in 1774.

A group of men were returning to Statler's Fort from work in a nearby field when Indians opened fire on them to inc Jacob. Several were shot dead on the spot. The survivors fled to the fort, venturing out later to find the dead men "scalped and mangled...in a most shocking manner." The number of dead is uncertain, but nearly all accounts agree that Statler was among those killed. Statlers Fort was burned and Indians pursued to the Ohio, killing only 2 of them. Jacob lived at Dunkard Creek Monongalia Co WV (31)

Jacob Not named in the will of Stephen Statler, but a lawsuit prosecuted by Jacob's son John stated that he was a grandson of Stephen Stadler and heir identifies Stephen as plaintiff's grandfather. Jacob's wife is unknown. It appears that she died relatively early, perhaps by 1784 but certainly while her son John was still a minor. (30)

Statler's estate was administered by his widow, whose bondsmen were George Hiley and John Celcir (32)

No records of the administration survived the 1796 fire.

Jacob, son of Stephen, was killed by Indians. He is not named in the will of Stephen Statler but it is stated in the Statler vs Core/Hiley lawsuit in Monongalia that Stephen (not named) was the grandfather of John STATLER son of Jacob (George STATLER, the son of Stephen, is named and is called "uncle" to John) and I see no reason to doubt it. Jacob's wife died, per the suit, while their oldest son John was still a minor, and her name is not given anywhere

Fr Sandra Hall- Jacob has probable sons John born 1771 to 1774, Joseph born 2^nd abt 1774

These two were young orphans in 1783 when Stephen died.

Children of Jacob Stateler and Unk possibly a Wentzel or Bonnet [prob 5 kids]

-John Stateler b 1770-1773 stayed in Monongalia Co WV d bef May 28 1825 md prob Elizabeth Myers

It does make sense that John would be older because he went to court, but I haven't seen any proof. There are just too many uncertainties about this early family. If Stephen was the father of Jacob why did he not mention his orphaned young grandsons in his will? Sandra Hall

1820 HEADS OF HOUSEHOLDS STATE and County Page Pennsylvania

Monongalia John Stateler (Group 10) pg058

-Joseph Stateler b abt 1774 md

SOLDIERS OF THE WAR OF 1812

Holt's Detachment Oh. Vol. and Mil. Priv. Stateler, Joseph (or Statler)

3 Stateler

4 Stateler

5 Stateler

Jacob Statler had a son John. John was born May 4, 1733, and died February 22, 1826. He married Eve (?). Family tradition says that Eve's maiden name was Roberts. This was confirmed by John's grandson, John, who died March 13, 1926.

A deed on record in the courthouse at Morgantown, W. Va., dated November 9, 1833, gives the heirs of John Statler as follows:Levi Anderson and his wife, Sarah; David Wright and his wife, Susan; John Delester and his wife, Castilda; and Jacob Statler and son of John and Eve Statler, was born June 30, 1805, and died November 20, 1873. He was married on October 5, 1826, to Elizabeth Walker who was born March 2, 1802, and died April 11, 1874. Following are the children of Jacob and Elizabeth (nee Walker) Statler:

1^st child Jacob Stateler & Unk

i. John Stateler sr b 1770 before 8 Sep 1774 d before 28 May 1825 Monongalia. He md Jan 1800

Elisabeth, probably Myers. An undocumented family history published in 1927 gives his dates as 8 May 1733-22 February 1826 (41), but this is incorrect on both ends. By his own statement, John was a minor at the time of his father's death in 1778 and continued a minor for many years thereafter, attaining his majority sometime prior to 8 September 1795 (42). He cannot have been significantly over 21 at that time. Estate records indicate he was dead almost a year earlier than the date shown by Wilson (43).

John, son of Jacob, was the heir at law and was the oldest son. Since only the eldest son inherited land under the circumstances, there is no direct record of the rest of the family.) John married, abt 1805 or 1806, to Elisabeth, probably MYERS though his family record does not say so. (The family record, in his own handwriting, is in the Monongalia court records at Morgantown, pinned to the guardianships for his children.) Elisabeth evidently had a son Peter MYERS prior to her marriage. The land John inherited from Jacob was sold by his children after his death.

His sons were Jacob (m Elis WALKER) and John; all the other children were daughters, and one or two of them died unmarried but most survived.

Jacob Statler and son of John and Eve Statler, was born June 30, 1805, and died November 20, 1873.

He was md October 5, 1826, to Elizabeth Walker who was born March 2, 1802, and died April 11, 1874. Following are the children of Jacob and Elizabeth (nee Walker) Statler:

Susanna, born August 21, 1830, died Dec. 16, 1888; married George R. Wilson
Sarah, born Sept. 25, 1832, died about 1897; Sarah married Azaria Mayfield
Plezzy Ann, born April 27, 1835, died about 1884; married Marion Riggs
Catherine, born March 27, 1837, died June 8, 1915; md William S. Glascock b Aug 5, 1826 d Aug 19, 1915
John, born August 3, 1841, died March 13, 1926.md May 19, 1864, to Anna Moore who b June 30, 1844, and died August 23, 1916.

Harry S. Glasscock of near Rievesville, W. Va., is a son of William S. and Catherine (nee Statler) Glasscock.

Mrs. Marguerite Virginia Kennedy, of Lowewville, W. Va., is a daughter of Azaria and Sarah (nee Statler) Mayfield. E. D. Statler, of Jewett, Ohio; Newton Statler, of Cassville, W. Va., and Jacob Statler, of Coretown, W. Va., are sons of John and Anna (nee Moore) Statler.

It was John's great-grandfather, Jacob, who was scalped by Indians in 1778. Jacob's son, John, married a Roberts.

1850 census for Monogalia County, (West) Virginia page 322

John Statler 31 Farmer VA

Nancy 26 "

Andrew J. 10 "

page 332

Jacob Statler 44 "

Elizabeth 48 "

Sarah 17 "

Plesant 15 "

Catharine 13 "

John 8 "

1880 soundex for West Virginia Monongalia County

Stateler John 39 WV

Anna wife 36 "

James L son 16 "

Enos son 13 "

Mary dau 11 "

Jane dau 9 "

Sarah dau 5 "

N. Benson son 3 "

Catharine dau 1/12 Apr. 1880

Tyler County

Stateler Andrew J. 40 WV

Prudence wife 41 "

Asa F son 18 "

John son 16 "

Nancy dau 14 "

Alpheus E. son 8 "

Cora dau 6 "

Christina dau 4 "

Except for John (son of Jacob), nearly all the rest of the family left WV pretty early. The lawsuit had to do with the land to which John was entitled as the heir at law of his father. He recites that his father was killed by Indians "many years ago" and that George HILEY, who he stops just short of saying was his uncle though it is strongly implied that HILEY was a family connection, had a survey made for John as heir of Jacob but appropriated part of the land to his own use and he or his heir sold it to one of the CORE men. George SNYDER was finally bonded as guardian to John STATLER and obtained another survey, which included all of the land to which John was entitled, and the purpose of the suit was to negate HILEY's sale to CORE of a part of it. Eventually STATLER and CORE agreed the case out of court and STATLER took the land, 400 acres in all. This is the same John whose dates are usually given as 1733-1826 (or so), but the dates are wrong. He says that he was a minor at the time of his father's death in 1778 and for many years afterward, and there is no reason to doubt this. He would have been laughed out of court if he came in, aged almost 70, and presented the case that he did. He was actually born c1772, it would appear, and was age 21 by 1794 -- but probably not much over 21 at that time. I've seen a photograph of his tombstone, which appears to show he + 1826, age 93 years but the first digit of the age is badly damaged, as if it has been chipped with a sharp object, and I believe it should read _53_years. If I remember correctly, the

stone shows him +1826 but his estate went into probate in 1825, so the date of death is probably a year off. MITTONG says he married Eve ROBERTS, but that is also wrong. MITTONG badly confused the STATLER family and he has been followed closely by CORE and others -- another purpose for my article! Evidently Mr WILSON saw deeds from John and Eve (BRYERLY) STATLER in Monongalia and presumed that all references to a John were to the same person, which they are not. The John who married Eve was the older man, and made a mark like a $ tipped over on its side. John STATLER the son of Jacob wrote his name and had a very distinctive handwriting, as well as spelling style, that are easy to spot if you've seen them once. The older John had land at Pentress and Blacksville, adjoining George HILEY's home place. At least some of this came eventually to Adam BROWN.The MS indicates that there were sisters but does not ID them, and they didn't figure in any of the litigation over the land because John, as

the oldest son, was the heir at law to his father's real estate. (The MS says that Joseph was the oldest son, but this is contradicted by the facts. The only one who is known to me to have stayed here was Christina STATLER, the daughter of John and Eve (BRYERLY), who married Adam BROWN and lived at Pentress. Her parentage has been much disputed in the past but I was lucky enough to find the documents which prove that she was the daughter of John (who signs by the tipped-over $ mark). John gave evidence, shortly before returning to OH, in a lawsuit involving Christina's son John BROWN and stated his relationship there, as well s signing with his usual mark. Again, I would recommend to you my STATLER article, which does not include the info about Joseph, brother of John (of Jacob), noted above, because this came to me after the last completed draft was finished. It doesn't go beyond the children of John (c1772-1825/6), and there is still some discrepancy as to the # of Michaels around (I think there are 2: an older one who

was son of Stephen and a younger who may well have been a son of Jacob, but I could be wrong on this and the local records just don't give the answer). Otherwise, there is nothing in it that I know to be wrong, though it needs fine-tuning. The previous sources on this family were some fairly brief mentions in WILEY, which are partly incorrect; the page or two in WILSON's book on the MITTONG family, which is rather garbled; some notes not directly relevant to STATLER but involving them in Glenn LOUGH's book; and CORE, who uses all of the preceding. I'm not even related to this family! Twenty years ago Susie JONES mentioned them to me as a family who were a major mess to untangle, and eventually I set about to see what could actually be done with them, just as a project. I had had some correspondence from the BROWN researchers, for whom I found the BROWN-STATLER connection above, and one of them tipped me to the torn-out Bible record of John STATLER's children. And then a book I randomly picked up at WVU Library had the clues I needed to find the "other" children of Stephen Sr, who went to KY

JOHN Statler-THE MONONGALIA STORY- A Bicentennial Hist by Earl L. Gore 1974

1770 Pg184-John Statler, heir at law of Jacob Statler sr dec'd entitled 400 ac Dunkard Creek include his settlement made Clay Dist Monongalia Co

1770 John Statler assee of David McMahon is intitled to 400 acres adjoining land claimed by John Cooper to include improvements made in

1795 John indicated in Statler vs Core he attained his majority on or abt Sept 8 1795

1798 Statler, John - 400 acres, Dunkard's Creek, Book 5, Page 226,.

1800 . John Statler was sued for slander by Andrew Myers 1800, Court Rec, Env 199 which contains an affadavit by Catreen Raver or Raber which seems to be the origin of a story recited in Wilson, MITTONG, 66-67 although told there in a rather different version.

1801 (38) Michael Core vs John Statler son of Jacob, MCR env 115, includes an April 1801 witness subpoena

to Joseph Statler. A man of this name is taxed in 1801, 1802, and 1804; gone 1805 and does not return. MCR env 70-A. Joseph Stateler was in service from Licking Co., Ohio during the War of 1812 (hill, 392-393) and a man of this name appears on 1820 census, aged 45+ and with a household (notes supplied by Irene Baker).

(39) Stanley, op cit., details his career.

(40) A. J. Baughman, op cit., and HISTORY OF RICHLAND CO., OHIO (Chicago, 1908), 1:514ff, with

portrait and biographical data.

(41) Wilson, op cit. Followed in Core, CHRONICLES, 109.

(42) Statler vs Core and Hiley. In 1784 a survey of 183 acres was made for John Statler, heir at law of Jacob (Monongalia Surveys 7:121). Stateler claimed that this survey excluded a portion of his rightful property. On 8 September 1795 a new survey, for 400 acres, was made (Monongalia Surveys 4:384).

(43) Monongalia Estates 3:56, 58; inventory, 28 Mar 1825; sale bill, 9 June 1825, recorded Nov 1825.
1802 The case was settled by agreement bet Statler and Michael Core, per statement of Aug 10 1802 in Statler's handwriting. The record of John Statler's family in his own handwriting and spelling was filed with the guardianship bonds for his younger children. This suit dealt with misuse of John's inheritance during his minority, by guardian George Hiley, who acted without bond as his guardian and who had sold some of the land for his own profit. In the bill, John Statler mentions his grandfather had died, leaving a minor son George [md Smeathers] your orator's uncle' who inherited land adjoining John's own claim. John also says his mother died while he was a minor and George Snider was bonded as his guardian and undertook to find what became of John's estate. Monongalia Court Records-Env 354-A sheet torn from a book, perhaps a bible does not indicate exact date of John Statler's marr nor birthdate of himself and wife. It is my [Rick Toothman's] conjecture the Elisabeth Myers whose child or children, appear on the REVERSE side of the page is same Elisabeth to whom John married. Elizabeth Myers-"it may be conjectured she is same person as Elisabeth Myers identified on reverse side of family record as mother of Peter Myers b Feb 26 1800 and perhaps of another child, name omitted in record, born Mar 6 1802.

. Some work in the county records cleared up much of the rest. Hope this will help! After abt 1805, the STATLER family is easy, since there is only one, that of John

(son of Jacob), and from his 2 sons come all the ones now here of the name.,Rick

Children of John Statler sr & Elisabeth Myers b May 18

1-Jacob b Jun 30 1805 d Nov 20 1873 md Eliz Walker

2-Christina b Apr 24 1807 d bef Mar 26 1829

3-Catherine b Jul 6 1809 md Isaac Willyard

4-Susannah b Dec 12 1810 md David Wright

5-Castilda b Mar 12 1813 md John Jester

6-Pleasant b May 5 1816 d May 14 1889 md Thomas Wade

7-JOHN STATLER JR b SEPT 5 1817 md NANCY Wade ?*see footnote 105 8

2^nd child Jacob 'Jake' Statler & Elizabeth Meyers

Joseph Stateler/Stotler b 1771 d 1870 m1 Margaret Miller m2 Catherine UnkLN
Joseph Stotler born about 1771 moved to Brown County Ohio,

Joseph's birth year is from the 1850 census

Joseph Stotler served in the war of 1812 in Collier's Regt as Josepf Stotlar

Fr Sandra Hall-there is no record except a mention in a local history that this Joseph being a son of Stephen ever existed. If it were me I would not have included this person in any list. The Joseph whose descendant took the DNA test is Joseph Stotler of Brown County Ohio son of Jacob who died in 1778 (who Rick says is the #3 son of Stephen.) Joseph STOTLER born about 1771 had about 14 children.

Joseph Stotler is line George Statler line matched exact in DNA Project

Fr Sandra Hall's newsletter-1987 Issue 1 page 5 Begin Quote Queries FROM Betty Robbins Zlomke 801 Laramie Ave. Alliance, NE 69301 My greatgrandmother was Barbara Strottler (Statler). She was born 10 Aug. 1808 in Penn. and died 8 or 9 Aug 1883 near Aledo, Illinois. She married 2 Feb 1828 or 1830 Hiram A. Robbins in Brown County, Ohio. ED. NOTE; Barbara is the daughter of Joseph Stotler of Brown County and his first wife.

Children of Joseph Stotler & lst wife Elizabeth

According to the 1938 family history taken from material collected by Edwin Stotler the children of Joseph's first marriage were:

-Alexander born March 14, 1799. He lived in Highland County, Ohio, where his first wife, Jane Morrison, died. He married his second wife, Ellen (or Eleanor) Husrt and moved to Williamson County, Ill., where he lived on a farm south of Herrin, Ill. He died April 13, 1852.

-James Stotler, second son of Joseph Stotler, moved from Ohio to Mercer County, Ill., Later moved to Iowa.

-John Stotler went to Mercer County, Ill., with his brother James. He was crippled from boyhood.

-Elizabeth Stotler went with James to Illinois and married (?) McIntier. They settled on a farm west of Peoria, Ill. She raised Jane Stotler Sterns, daughter of Uncle Alexander and wife of Thos. Sterns.

-Barbara Stotler went to Mercer County, Ill., with James and John. She married Hiram Robbins. Both are buried in Condor Cemetery, 4 miles from Seton.

- Samuel Stotler born Nov. 12 1813, fourth son of Joseph Stotler. Married first wife, Mary Mahaffey. One child, Elizabeth, died when about 1 1/2 years of age. First wife died July 22, 1837. Samuel then married Elizabeth Parsons, daughter of Zeruah and Thomas Parsons, April 18, 1839. He lived on a farm near Buford, Highland County, Ohio. Sold it and moved to Williamson County, Ill. Nov. 1856 ********************* End Quote *****************8

That makes 6 more children. I know Joseph's first wife was named Margaret and since there first son was Alaexander Miller Stotler her name might well have been Miller.

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Fr Rick Toothman-A manuscript I received after finishing that draft established beyond question that Joseph STATLER, c1773/4?-1870s, of Brown Co, OH, was a younger brother of John STATLER (of Jacob). This Joseph married Margaret MILLER and left WV in the early 1800s

data on Joseph STATLER of OH needs to be worked into the story.

Fr Sandra Hall (But the data on Joseph is also extremely incorrect on some points, and some of it is outright nonsense -- particularly the story of Joseph, his father Jacob, and their encounters with Indians, nearly all of which is fictional.)

Children of Joseph Stotler in old newsletters, see 1986 Issue 3 and 1987 Issue 1." http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~statler/statler/docs/snewsletters/sn.html

Children of Joseph Stotler & 2^nd wife Catherine

1850 Jackson Township, Brown County, Ohio 27 Sept page 484

Joseph Stotler age 80 farmer born Virginia

Catherine " 50 N. C. b 1770

Josiah " 21 Ohio

Charity " 18 "

Eliza " 17 "

Susanah " 13 "

Levi " 11 "

Rachel B. " 7 "

I must admire a man of eighty with a seven year old child. Anyway we have a Josiah but his age is five years off. So more checking must be done. I did double check the 1850 census. Josiah should be 1ocated in the 1860 and 1870 census.

I checked the 1938 History I have and it mentions that Joseph Stotler had a son Jackson who came to Illinois with his half-brother Samuel and went back to Indiana around 1865 and settled near Tipton, Indiana. So the logical place to look would be Williamson County, Illinois in 1860 and Tipton County, Indiana in 1870. Also check for someone named Josiah or Jackson.

JAMES STATLER

Fr Sandra Hall- the research I have been doing is offering mostly clues to places that need further research. A link has been made in group 10 between the James Statler/Stateler family of Berrien County Michigan and the John Statler family of Winnebago County, Wisconsin. (See the Query section).

"I also received some information from Rebecca Wilkins, on a Jacob Statler in Berrien County, Michigan who appears to be a member of Group 6. Jacob and family had come to Berrien Spring in 1835 from Franklin County, Pennsylvania, "

1850 Lincoln Township, Morrow County, Ohio, 8 August, page 45

Daniel Bennet 67 born Pa.

Rhoda " 64 Mass.

Jacob Statelor 77 Va. (blind)

This Jacob may be the Jacob in the above story, he is thirty-three years older than John and James and lived in the right area. The question of who Jacob might be then comes up. I would guess he might be the son of John Statler Senior of Licking County, Ohio.

1880 Soundex in Niles City, Berrien County, Michagan.

Statler, Jacob age 79 born in Pennsylvania

" Mary A wife 65 "

Alace dau. 23 Indiana

Ryan, Nariah dau. 31 Michigan

" Eddie g.s. 7 "

Frank g.s. 5 "

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Eva Goeken Group 10 2710 Yates Denver, CO 80212

Need information on Jacob W. Statelor, lived Marion County, Ohio 1830 and James Statelor twin brother of John born about 1805 Ohio.

ED. NOTE; Eva sent me some information from the History of Marion County in relating some stories of the relationship of some of the early stettlers with the Indians.

"Capt. Beckley relates the following occurrence as given by Benjamin Sharrock, now well advanced in years, and formerly a citizen of Marion County:

'About the year 1821 or 1822, there were several Indians who frequently camped and hunted on the waters of the West and Middle Forks of the Whetstone, to wit: Capt. Dowdee, his son Tom, and Capt. Dowdee's son-in-law, Nickels (the bad Indian), the subject of this narrative. He was regarded as a dangerous man among his own companions. He had become embittered against Benjamin Sharrock, his brother, Everard Sharrock, and Jacob Stateler, who with his three sons, Andrew, James and John (the latter were twin brothers), lived in a cabin on or near the land now owned by George Diegle, Esq., in Tully Township. The Dowdees had frequently shared the hospitalities of our cabin and we regarded them and peacable and well disposed citizens.'

The article goes on to relate some incidents with the Indian Nickels which the Sharrocks and Statelers survived.

As for the twin brothers James and John, Eva and I believe the the James Statler of Berrien County, Michigan in 1850 age 44 (see Issue 2 page 9) and her ancestor John Statler of Winnebago County, Wisconsin in 1850 age 44 are the twin sons of Jacob Stateler. Both were born in Ohio.

Fr: <sue.knight@mindspring.com15 May 2002 Cc: <brendajmorris2002@yahoo.com>Oct 13, 2002 Subject: Re: Statler family

-Stephen Sr son... Jacob sr md Elizabeth Meyers [NO] md UNK

son John born 1770-74 married to Eve Roberts.[NO} md Eliz Meyers They had eight children,[YES]

one of them John born in 1815-17 married to Nancy.[YES} Have I got this right?? [PARTLY]

Tell me this is right, please!! I also can find no records on 7 of the eight children.[of John SR??] I still cannot find Nancy's name. I just started my search and it keeps leading me back to Stephen.

My ggg grandfather was John Statler born about 1815 in Mononghalia Cty WV.

His son was Andrew Jackson Statler.

Are John and Jacob brothers [NO-son/o John sr] and sons of Stephen or maybe I am off a generation and Jacob son of Stephen is John's father????

Census records show a John and Nancy and Andrew 1850 and also a Jacob and Elizabeth (Walker) with children, names Sarah, Pleasant, Catherine and John. This I found at the Statler web site. I show that the John in that line was born 1841 and married a Anna Moore. Again I said I was confused, and then there is John & Eve (Roberts) Statler, who are they??? I believe he was born 1774 and he is the father of Jacob on the tax records. Please bear with me, I have read this stuff so much and have heard so many different stories, I feel like I know these people most personally. I understand what you are saying about the other brothers, I tracked those lines down and we do not connect, so I feel this is right, but the Elizabeth Meyers and Eve Roberts thing... Nancy's maiden name, I believe was Wade, we just discovered that. I really appreciate your help. Don't give up on me, my children are not named Jacob or John, but Jennifer and

Julia, is that weird or what?? It's so confusing but I noticed you were searching in this same area, thought you might have answer. I know we are not down the Stephen Jr, Micheal, George lines. So that leaves John, Jacob and Joseph (killed by the Indians) But I have found no hard proof on any of this, just gut feelings and dates that line up. Did discover that John's wife Nancy was probably a Wade, but the county is overrun with them during that time period. I also now believe Nancy might have been a nickname. One thing I do know for sure, she could neither read or write according to the 1850 census. Most of my information has come from the Statler website at Rootsweb.com I will go through my e-mails and send you some forwards that have lead me to where I am now. At this point it is eliminating instead of confirming anything. But it has been quite interesting as I knew nothing of my grandfather's family. His mother died in childbirth and the family was split apart and he was not raised with his siblings. I was born and raised in Morgantown & Fairmont, WV, just a few miles from where the fort was, I knew nothing of it. Let me know if the information I send is of any help and if you are John. It shows, with documentation, this line:
Stephen STATLER (Statlers Fort) m (not known)
Jacob STATLER (d 1778) m (not known)
John STATLER (d 1820s) m Elisabeth (probably MYERS)
John STATLER m Nancy (WADE; don't remember if I had reference on her birth name)

Fr:"DJames Adams" montanan2@worldnet.att.net>22 Oct 2002-My name is John STATLER. I saw your email to the rootsweb STATLER email list and it greatly sparked my interest because we had the STATLER/STATELER difference within our family. I am wondering if we are related in some way. As late as 1940 my Grandfather, Dennis James STATLER pronounced our name as "STATE-ler". On the Ohio, 1840 US Census the name was enummerated as STATELER. This is what I know:

My Father, John Rally STATLER, b. 1901 Il
Grandfather, Dennis James STATLER, b. 1872 Mi
GGrandfather, John Riley STATLER, b. 1846 Oh
GGGrandfather, James STATELER, b. 1805 Oh
1833 James md Mary b 1815 Clark Oh.

issue:
Jacob, Mary, Charlotte, Dennis, John Riley, Cynthia and (Linda?). James and family moved to Mi c1847.
John 1805 STATELER, twin to James 1805 STATELER m. Mary SOFER, their issue: Clarrisa, James, Elizabeth, Erastus, Solomon, Burns and Stephen.

Andrew Stateler md twice.

older brother to James 1805 STATELER appeared 1840 US Census De Co Oh with wife and issue of 7.

I have info which makes me believe the father of James 1805 STATELER was Jacob sr b c1770-74 STATELER who, 1828 lived with his family Tully Township, either Marrow, Marion or Crawford Co Oh. possible you are my Cousin?>John Statler

Everyone named STATLER in Monongalia Co comes down the same line. Stephen had other children, all of whom moved away from here, so the name was carried on only in the family of his grandson John STATLER son of Jacob. William K BUNNER told me he had done some legal work for Andrew STATLER's 2nd wife, in the 1980s, and that it seemed quite bizarre to him that he was acting as attorney at that time for a Civil War widow and the daughter-in-law of a man born c1817.

Brian D Core <greenhouseguy@juno.com> 3 Nov 2002

Source: VA-Harrison-Monongalia-L@rootsweb.com VA-Har-Mon] Statler Family
Andrew Jackson Statler married Prudence Henderson, who was the daughter of my ggggrandparents, David and Elizabeth (Morris) Henderson. I'm descended from Prudence Henderson's sister Charlotte, who married Alpheus Garrison. I just found an obit for Jackson Statler, who moved from his native Monongalia Co to Tyler Co WV I believe after the Civil War:
STATLER, ANDREW JACKSON - Veteran of the Civil War, died at his home at Meadeville, Tyler Co., WV, on 23 June 1926, aged 87 years.
He was born 24 Feb. 1839. He and Prudence Henderson married 10 November 1858 and ten children were born to this union. They are as follows: Asa Franklin of Syracuse, IN; John S. of Fairview, WV; Alpheus E. of Meadeville; Mrs.Nancy E. Adams of Newell, WV; Mrs. Cora Alice Turner of Sistersville,WV;Chrystena Lawton of Meadowbrook, WV; surviving him. George A., David M.,and Mrs. Mary E. McCoy preceded him in death, also his wife, Prudence, having died 25 June 1906. He and S. Eva Jordon married 3 Dec. 1909 and three children were born to this union, Ethel Mildred, Ralph Jordon and Helen Marie, living at home with her mother, who survives her husband. He was a member of Co. C, 3rd Regiment of the WV Cavalry. He was a member of the M. E. Church. Interment was in the Meadeville Cemetery (Tri-County Obituaries vol. 1, p. 80). Brian D. Core> P.O. Box 1166>Brighton, CO 80601 http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy For attachments, use: Greenhouseguy@prodigy.net

4th CHILD OF STEPHEN [prob not his son, prob this fella son of Stephen's son Jacob]

4.Joseph Stateler (c1750-c1773) - dsp , died before 1773?, possible son of Stephen. Not named

in Stephen's will, but tradition existed in Monongalia in the 19th century of a Joseph Statler who, with ----Myers, was killed by Indians in a turkey gobble ambush on Jakes Run. (33)

The key word above is TRADITION. There is no good documentation of Joseph killed 1778. Sandra Hall

Below are descendants of Joseph killed 1778 through John Statler/Stateler of Mono. Co

part of Group 10

1877-Neiman B Statler b Nov 1877 WV Tenmile Dist Harrison Co

md Adda Victoria Morris Apr 7 1897 Monongalia Co.

She d Apr 27 1908 B Oak Grove Cem Morgantown Monongalia Co WV.

1885-1909-The Journal of the Marriages Performed by the Rev. Alpheus Garrison Transcribed by Brian Core Many Monongalians crossed the PA border to marry, because (W)VA charged a fee for a marr license, whereas there was no such requirement in PA.

James N. Statler and Abigail Jane Barrackman November 25, 1885

Enos D. Statler and Sarah Tennant August 29, 1889 ***

Okey J. Eddy and Mary E. Statler September 6, 1889

Numan [Neiman] B. Statler and Adda V. Morris April 7, 1897****

Grover Clay Henderson and Rosetta Statler May 27, 1909

George M. Statler and Mary E. Moore December 18, 1909

5th child of Stephen

5. MICHAEL Cornelius STATELER sr, son of Stephen. Prob b 1757 d Apr 15 1842

Md1 Sarah [Moore] moved to Licking Co Oh before 1805 (14).

[had George, Joseph & Hannah]

Md2 Mary 'Polly' Dunlap Bold b Apr 6 1785 Md/Va d Jan 11 1874 Summerford md Dec 15 1803

Monogalia Marriages-15 Dec. 1803 Statler, Michael and Bold Polly.

Statler, Michael - 200 acres, Decker's Creek, Book 5, Page 26, 1796.

Statler, Michael - 200 acres, Decker's Creek, Book 6, Page 43, 1809.

Children of Michael C Statler sr and UNK

George Stateler md Sarah ?

Joseph Stateler

Joseph Stateler was probably the son of Michael Stateler and served is 3rd Reg't (Cass') Oh. Vol. and Mil. Sergt. Ronick's Mtd. Oh. Vol. and Mil. Corp. It was a John Statler who served in Holt's -Sandy Hall

Hannah Stateler b 1784 d 1805

+ James Cunningham 1804

-Elisabeth Cunningham b 8 Mar 1805 d 23 Nov 1894

+ Jacob Baughman lived Richland County Ohio. (40)

Fr R Toothman-Only one of his children of Michael and Sarah is identified at present:

Hannah Stateler b 1784 d 1805 md 1804 James Cunningham

NOTE: dau/of Michael and Sarah Stateler. She md, about 1804, to James Cunningham of Monongalia, and died in

Licking County, Ohio, about six months after the birth of her only child:

Fr stateler@indy.net -Marva's cousin new email stateler@joink.com

prob all children b Oh as 1806 tax records verify Michael living there at that time by 1806 tax records.

The following information on Michael Stateler comes from Victor Stateler and Betty Turner.

Michael was born 1757 or 1762 and died 15 April 1842 in Summerford, Madison Co Oh. Tradition says he was

born in Germany, but he was more likely born in America of German parents. Tradition also has him serving in

the military in Germany, but perhaps this was his father. His first wife (name unknown) died leaving him with

two sons

George Stateler assumed birth between 1780 and 1803

Joseph Stateler " " " " "

Michael's second wife was Mary (Polly) Bold whom he married 15 December 1803. She was born approx

6 April 1785 in Maryland or Virginia. and died 11 January 1874 in Summerford.

Fr Bob- Mcgillrb@aol.com Michael (1762-1842), son of Stephen Stradler- Mary Boldin (the "in" on her

surname maybe a Germanic feminine ending) could be 2nd wife, but not his last one. Ma(r)y Dunlap Stateler

(c1785-Feb. 11,1874) outlived Michael by 30 years and is buried in Madison Co.

Michael's first wife was Sarah (Moore?). By her he is reputed to have George, Joseph, and Hannah, who

married John Cunningham.

From: Mcgillrb@aol.com -I believe I have found Michael Stateler on the 1820 Ohio census of Licking Co., Hanover

Twp. He is erroneously listed as "Michael Shadley". There is no "Michael Shadley" in Licking Co., records or other

censii. Once again, the Stateler name has been "butchered" and mis-transcribed. The listing is :

1820 Census Shadley, Michael 600011-02110
The enumeration lends itself to the following analysis:
The 6 males under 10:
1.Michael Jr. (b1810) son of Michael
2.Joseph (1811) son of Joseph (son of Michael in all subsequent references)
3.Stephen (1813) son of Michael
4.Elijah (1817) son of Michael
5.James W.D. (1818) son of Michael
6.Samuel D. (1819/20) son of Joseph
The male 26/45 : Joseph c30-35 - son of Michael
The male over 45: Michael - c58-63
The 2 females 10/16:
1.Lovina (1807) - dau of Michael (She m. Wm. Neibarger)
2.Mary (1809) - dau of Joseph (She m. Benj. Stump)
The female 16/26: Unk. wife of Joseph - c26
The female 26/45: Mary Dunlap - wife of Michael - c35

I concede that this is an imperfect analysis - most censii prior to 1850 are largely taken on faith or as logic

assumptions. This one is no different. There are particular difficulties with the females listed. i.e. Joseph's

wife is too young to have married daughters (who would not be shown here, but with their husbands). Is she

a second wife ? Also, where is George ? In my present analysis I omit Lucinda, Eliza, and the younger Michael

who marries in 1840. Perhaps they do belong to George, after all ? They are never referred to in our Joseph's

family stories as "brother and sisters " of his, while the others are.

I'm still looking for a clue that will place them correctly.

To return to my original assumption that this is our Michael: it's the right year, the right county. the right

township, right first name (Michael), and right age groupings

From: Mcgillrb@aol.com

To: shall@pacbell.net, MStateler@aol.com, goofy959799@yahoo.com, r.toothman@ATT.net, ronna8@alltel.net

All your points are well taken. I will check subsequent censii for the ages of those who got married. Wouldn't it be

wonderful if one of them turned out to be of an age to have been Joseph's (1811-1870) widowed mother.

You are right about Michael not being on the 1820 census of Licking Co.I feel certain he was there then as he appears

on 1816 and 1826 tax lists and on 1818 and 1825 deeds; both of which bracket 1820. The History of Madison

Co.,Ohio, has him arriving in the 1820's and we know his last land sale in Licking Co. was in 1829.

This brings up the whole matter of the thoroughness of censii. As neither George nor Joseph ever appear on one in

Licking Co., I can image either a very sloppy census-taker, or , whenever he interviews Michael, that Michael

responds to him "Oh, those two houses back there are my two sons" and the census-taker immediately assumes they

are in the family numbers he has just gotten from Michael. Who knows why they were so consistently missed ? (if

they were in Arkansas or Oklahoma one could assume they were "moonshiners" who deliberately lived far back in the

hills to avoid the "revenuers" and deliberately sought to avoid being listed). Moonshiners? Again, you are right to raise

the question of whether or not every Stateler "cat" in Licking Co. is known. Obviously, we are forced to draw our

conclusions from only what we do know (0r can reasonably surmise). It is , indeed, highly likely that other Statelers

may have passed thru Licking Co. at various times. However, we have no inkling that any of them lingered long

enough to get their names on deeds or raise a family of at least 5 children and possibly 8. Poor as it is, the

"documentation" that we do have is all we have to go on as to names.

For the record: Joseph Stateler is listed on the muster roll of Capt. John Spencer's Company (Licking Co., RBM) from

June 1,1812 until May 31,1813 and from May 5,1813 until May 20,1813 (overlapping dates, but separate rolls). These

are the only Ohio servce records here in Tulsa, but I did see 2 others in Licking Co. when I was there. One wae for

service as a "Spy", also under Capt. John Spencer. This Spencer fellow also goes all the way back to the 1806 Tax list

of Fairfield Co., where he appears on the same list as John Sr., John Jr., and Michael Shadler (sic).

1.I definitely agree that the Joseph Stateler who marries Sarah Galbreath in Butler Co., 14 Dec 1815, is not the father

of Joseph (1811-1870); the marriage is not only 4-yrs late but in the wrong county. Our Joseph Stateler's tombstone

contains the words "Born in Licking Co Ohio May 9,1811". (I have the photo in front of me , even as I write this). I

will make another "leap of faith" and presume his parents were present on that occasion. (GRIN).

2.The elder Joseph of Licking Co., served in Capt. John Spencer's company at 4 different times during the War of

1812. This is confirmed by the fact several of the other names on the company roster are well-known Licking Co.

names. This does not rule out that other "Joseph Stat(e)ler's" may also have served in that war; in fact, Jacob Stateler's

son, Joseph of Monongalia Co., Va., likely did if there is any grain of truth in Rev. Talma Stotler's garbled saga.

3.For the period 1808-1825, in Licking Co. there is no documentation of any adult male Statelers other than John

Sr.,John Jr., Michael, George and Joseph.

(The exception being Jacob, who married Catherine Sap Aug,13,1823, and is subsequently shown to be a son of John

Jr.). There just aren't any other "cats" in the room. Are there ?

4.I postulate Lucinda, Eliza, and Michael as siblings of Joseph (1811-1870) on the basis of "process of elimination".

i.e. They had to have parents - and only 2 "cats" are left: George and Joseph. George, without a wife's dower release

on his deed , sells out in 1825, and can be presumed to have left the county prior to Eliza's marriage in 1828 and

certainly before Michael's in 1840. Leaving unmarried children, especially a daughter,doesn't seem to make much

sense for a "family". Hence, I ruled out George.

I concede that I am hypothesizing as to the exact number of siblings Joseph (1811-1870) may have had, but after one

subtracts all the known Statelers who married in Licking Co.,we are left with a reasonable number (for a Family) and

no duplicate names, all in the right age range, Mere coincidence? Also, I cannot envision outside Statelers flocking to

Licking Co. just to get married - they must have originated there !

Joseph Statler jr ? [son of Joseph, son of Michael] b 1811 d 1870 md1 Elizabeth Francis in Hancock Co 8 Nov 1838. When she died 1843, he returned to Licking Co., and md2 Eliza Jane Predmore; they returned to Hancock Co. Later they moved to Putnam Co., Oh and Just 3 months before he died 1870, they moved to Crawford Co Il. He is buried there. His second wife and all the children returned to Putnam Co.

Fr Bob- my Joseph's (1811-1870) DATA

1.I would suggest that Licking Co.,Ohio. is the place to begin. All branches of his descendants record it as Joseph's birthplace, altho no documentation has been found.

2.The earliest mention of a Joseph in Licking Co. that I have found is in Deed Bk (I failed to copy the #), p227. 11 May 1818. wherein Michael Stateler deeds 50A to a George Stateler "at the end of the third line of Joseph Stateler's tract". Obviously this is not my Joseph who would be only 7-yrs old at that time. Michael does not call either George or Joseph "son". So who is this Joseph?

3.Hancock Co.,Ohio, Blanchard Twp. Land Entries record Joseph Stateler of Licking Co. entered land 17 Aug 1833. Our Joseph is only 22 and unmarried in 1833. It could be him or his father or some other, unknown Joseph. However, a James Francis (the name of Joseph's future father-in-law) a resident of Hancock Co., also entered land there on 26 May 1836.

4.Our Joseph did marry Elizabeth Francis in Hancock Co. on 8 Nov 1838. When she died in 1843, he returned to Licking Co., and married Eliza Jane Predmore; they returned to Hancock Co. Later they moved to Putnam Co., Oh and Just 3 months before he died ,in 1870, they moved to Crawford Co.,Illinois. He is buried there. His second wife and all the children returned to Putnam Co.

5. While Joseph was in Licking Co., in 1843, marrying his second wife, he disposed of property he had previously purchased from the heirs of John Stateler, Jr.-Bk RR p289-90 and other land purchased from one Eliza Ann Barrick- Bk PP p400. No relationships are expressed and these appear to be at "arms length" transactions. I will, however, be so bold as to surmise that they are his cousins!

6. He also returned to Licking Co. in 1847 to dispose of land left his wife by her father, Benjamin Predmore, deceased. Bk 48 pp625-6. This is his last transaction in Licking Co.

7.Joseph and known siblings(from family records, exc. for Samuel):

a.Mary 11 Dec 1809-Aft 1901 m Benj Stump

b.Joseph 9 May 1811-19 Jul 1870 m1.Elizabeth Francis in 1838; m2 Eliza Jane Predmore in 1843.

c.Katie b c1813 m Denman d.Hannah b c1815 m John S. Mercer

e.Samuel D. b c1820 unm. (Found in the HH of L.D.Mercer as "Uncle" - therefore brother of Hannah, mother of L.D.-Census of Hancock? Co.,1880. How this large a family can escape identification for 30 years is amazing to me. If we had "complete" tax lists 1806-1840 in Licking Co., surely the father would show up. Even if he never owned land surely he would have paid "personal" tax on a plow, a cow, or a

bed. I need you help, bad!! Bob

Born: 9 May 1811- Licking Co.,Ohio Hancock Co.,Ohio -

Entered land 1833 Hancock Co.,Ohio - m Elizabeth Francis (13 Nov 1819-June 1843) c1838, dau James. 1840 Census-Hancock Co. - Blanchard Twp p037 Joseph Statter 10000-00001 1843,June, Elizabeth Francis dies - On 23 Sept 1843 m2 to Eliza Jane Predmore (20 Mar 1826-21 Mar 1904) in Licking Co.,Ohio 1843-c1847 in Licking Co. then, returns to Hancock Co. 1840 Hancock Co.,census I use "Statter" because that

is how it is listed in the census index. I really feel it was enumerated as "Statler.

1850 Census-Hancock Co.. Blanchard Twp. 120/120 Stateler,Joseph 39 Oh Eliza 24 " Philip 11 " Eliza Ann 8 " William 6 " Elmira 2 " 1855- Moved to Putnam Co.,Ohio

1860 Census-Putnam Co.,Ohio - Blanchard Twp. 566/534 Stadler,Joseph 48 Oh Eliza 33 " Philip 20 " Eliza 18 " Wm. 15 " Almira 11 " Mary 8 " Samuel 5 " Parley 2 "

1870 Census-Crawford Co., Illinois - Licking Twp. 159/155 Statler,Joseph 61 Oh Eliza 44 " Mary 17 " Samuel 14 " Parlie 12 " Amanda 8 " Riley 6 " Joseph died in Crawford Co.,Ill 0n 19 July 1870 (3 months after arriving there) Buried in Bellair Cemetery. c1871-Eliza and children returned to Putnam Co.,Ohio.

I have just returned from a visit to Licking and Fairfield Cos.,Ohio. The only record I came up with in Fairfield was John Stateler,Sr's 115A land purchase of 7 April 1804 in R10-T2-S1 from Daniel Thompson. When Licking Co, was formed in 1808, this land fell into the new county. This land subsequently passed

to John Junior and was sold by him. No other sons of John Senior are ever mentioned by John Senior. I conclude that John Junior was the only one of his sons (if he had more) to accompany him to Ohio. As the sons of John Junior are named in a Chancery Suit, and no "Joseph" is among them, I further conclude that neither John Senior or John Junior can be the father of our Joseph (1811-1870). This leads us to the only other Stateler family in Licking Co.- Michael Stateler and his two sons by a first marriage (Sarah Moore ?)- George and Joseph. This is the same Michael who moved c1829 to Madison Co.,Ohio. It is instructive to note that ,while John Sr. and John Jr's land is in R10-T2-S1, the land of Michael and his sons is in R10-T2-S4. (Michael also had land in R10-T3-S13-14 and R10-T2-S23, but these lands were bought and sold without mention of his sons). We have already reviewed the available tax records from the beginning of Licking Co., thru 1834, without identifying land owners other than John,John Sr., and Michael (with the possible exception of 1826, on which appear a Jacob, probably the eldest son of John Jr., Joel , who does not otherwise appear in any county records and which one might even suppose to be a mistake for "Joseph", and a Thomas, who further investigation would probably reveal to be a Shadden rather than a Statler) . Marrige records shed no light on a senior Joseph, but I believe are of great help in reconstructing the siblings of our Joseph (1811-1870). Those that cannot be identified as children of Michael or John Jr. are of correct age to be such - and some are known to be so. Probate records for the period in question were either destroyed in the fire of 1875, or are in some unknown place. The available index sheds no light on our Joseph or his parentage. Trial dockets show Michael and George appearing in court at various times as plaintiffs, defendants or witnesses, but no genealogical information. Licking Co. land transactions (There are others than the ones I have listed below, but they do not alter the facts in the following):

1.E-105: 25 mar 1813 - John and Mary Stadler to John Thompson , acreage not mentioned, in R10-T2-S1 mentions "Phillip Barrack and John Statler's tract".

2.L-227: 11 May 1818 - Michael and Mary Stadler to George Statler 50A in R10-T2-S4 "at the third line

of Joseph Stadler's part".

3.K-281: 13 Jan 1825 - Michael and Mary Statlear(sic) to Francis Summerville 160A in R10-T3-S23.

4.H-486: 22 Jan 1825 - Michael and Mary Statler to Tobias Levingston 110A in R10-T2-S4 mentions "southeast corner of Joseph Statler".

5. I-494 : 4 Mar 1825 - George Statelar(sic) to Jacob Wellar 50A in R10-T2-S4 mentions "second line of Joseph Stattler(sic)" and east with George Statler's line". (This is George's sale of the 50A he got from Michael in L-227.) George then disappears from the Licking Co., records; he is, perhaps, the George who then appears in Clark Co., Ohio. Note that Dower rights are always given in Michael and Mary's deeds;

but no wife gives dower in George's deed. Either she was dead or he was unmarried. If unmarried , no descendants can be assumed. This leaves Joseph, son of Michael, to be the father of our Joseph and his 7 siblings: Lucinda Connel(John),Catherine Denman(Matthias Jr.),Eliza Williams(James),Mary Stump(Benjamin),Hannah Mercer(James S.),Michael (m.Mary Smith), and Samuel (Unmarried). Our Joseph (1811-1870) was m1 to Elizabeth Francis and m2 to Eliza Jane Predmore. One more thing: If George was the widowed father of our Joseph and moved to Clark Co., surely he would not leave all his orphans back in Licking Co. - would he ? Yet that is where they all were married. Bob

Children of Michael C Statler sr and Mary D Bold 1785 - 1874 fr Victor Stateler

-Lovinia Stateler b 31 Oct 1807 OH md 1 May 1828 William Neiberger.
-Michael Statelerjr b 15 April 1810 OH m1 Sidney Neiberger m2 Lucy McCumber.
-Stephen Stateler b abt 1813 OH md 1 March 1838 Racheal Mapes.
-Elijah Stateler b abt 1817 OH d 22 July 1838.
-James W.D. Stateler b 28 June 1818 OH md 23 March 1843 Pheobe B Rowan/Round.
-Mary Stateler b 23 Dec 1821 OH md 16 Feb 1843 Thomas Soward
-Samuel Stateler b 1822 OH d 19 Nov. 1831.
-Salathial Bold Stateler b 28 Sep 1823 OH m1 Mary Jane Downey m2 Marinza Elston
-Chester Stateler b 1828 OH d 10 Dec. 1833

FROM CARL
........... 3 Lavina Stateler 1807 -
............... +William Christian Neilberger
............ 3 Michael Cornelius Stateler, Junior 1810 - 1886
................ +Sidney Neiberger - 1847

1820 Clinton County, Indiana
1840 Coles County, Illinois
1850 21 SEP Greesy Creek Precinct, Coles Co Il Occupation: Farmer
1870 Illinois STATELER MICHEAL 60 M W OH IL CLARK ANDERSON TWP b 1810

............ *2nd Wife of Michael Cornelius Stateler, Junior:
............... +Lucy McCumber 1829 -

.................. 4 Chester N. Stateler b Jan 15 1834 Henesboro Douglas ILL
.................. 4 Mary Ann Stateler 1839 -

Stateler, Mary Ann William M. James md 25 Jan. 1861 by H. J. Venable, VDM

.................. 4 James William Stateler 1842 Coles Co ILL-
...................4 Sydney Jane Stateler 1848

From: "Viola/Floyd LAWRENCE" <Flawr84781@msn.com>
Seeking info on ancestors. Sidney died shortly after marriage, They married 1864, Douglas Co. Ill. Grateful for any clues on this couple.>Viola
From: Sandra Hall <shall@pacbell.net> Sidney Jane Stateler born 1848 is the daughter of Michael Stateler Jr. and Lucy McCumber. She was named after Michael's first wife Sidney Neiberger. In the 1850 census they lived in Coles County page 100. Michael is the son of Michael Stateler who died in Madison County Ohio. See Group 10 on my web site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sandrajoneshall/

...................4 Robert Stateler 1850

1850 Coles County, Illinois Greesy Creek Precinct, 21 Sept., page 100

Michael Stateler 40 born Ohio

Lucy " 21 "

Christian " 16 "

Mary A. " 11 "

James W. " 8 Illinois b 1842

Sydney J. " 2 "

Robert " 5/12 "

1870 21 Jul Anderson Twp., Clark Co., Ill. M593_195 pg. 278B HH #114

Stateler, Michael 60 mw farmer Ohio

Lucy 40 Oh

Harriet 13 Illinois,

Laura 9 Ill

Michael 6 Ill

John 2 Ill

Charles 1 Ill

3Aug1870 Johnson Twp., Clark Co., Ill. M593_195 pg. 355B

HH #162

Stateler, James 27 mw farmer Illinois b 1842

Mary 19 Ind

Michael 3 Ill

Martha 8/12 Ill

1870 Illinois STATELER JAMES 27 M W IL IL CLARK JOHNSON TWP

RE: James W Stateler- Fr:Frances Keenan-May 2002-poss son Jas Wm Stateler 1866-1942

Md Jessie Maude Perry [Shelby] widow, b Sept 22 1885 Mi parents thought to be John Perry and mother? d Nov 12 1960 Detroit Wayne Co MI bur Sunset Mem Park, Danville, Vermillion Co IL

She +1 Eli Ralph Shelby b 1881 Vermillion Co In d Mar 23 1923 Clinton Vermillion Co IN; buried Riverside Cem Clinton, Vermillion Co IN M Mar 10 1903 Vermillion Co IN

-Issue: l. Thelma 2. Mary 3. Eli Ralph (father of wife Kaye (Shelby) Keenan 4. Paul

He Listed as farm hand 1860 Census Douglas Co Il w/Michale-father-

-Jesse Maude Perry was my wife's paternal grandmother. I only met her once in Detroit and that was when I went to Detroit to see wife's father when we were engaged to be married. Maude was in her 70's at time and not very talkative. Wife Kaye (Shelby) Keenan says Maude was always ambitious and hard working bright woman who travelled extensively and always had fine automobiles. She was snazzy dresser and seemed to enjoy life. Her 1st husband, Eli Roscoe Shelby, rr worker and seriously injured at work succumbing to injuries early in life. Wife Kaye never knew him but we have a photo. Handsome fella. Here are Maude's (the given name she used) vital statistics:Maude +2 Jas Wm Stateler, b 1886 d 1942; bur Sunset Mem Park Danville Vermilion County IL Issue: None. Since wife Kaye's paternal grandmother, Maude(Perry) Shelby/Stateler m Jas Wm later, this union produced no children and it is but a small part or limb on her lineage tree. My wife's sister recalls Jas Wm Stateler was found dead at home and believed to have died of pneumonia. She was a go getter and wanted money and worked to get it. For years, she worked as a hair dresser in Danville, Il-Francis only 7yrs old and remembers him as a very kind and gentle man.

Michael M2 Lucy MCCUMBERS b: 21 SEP 1829 Logan Co Oh M 14 NOV 1847 Coles Co Il

.................. 4 Sydney Jane Stateler b 17 AUG 1848 Bowdre Twp Douglas Co Il - 1870
.................. 4 Robert Dunlap Stateler - 1850-1852
.................. 4 Martha Stateler              b 10 JUL 1856 Bowdre Twp Douglas Co Il
.................. 4 Harriet Zulma Stateler        1856 - 1920
.................. 4 Albert Douglas Stateler b 7 JUL 1858 Douglas Co Il - 1861
.................. 4 Laura Emma Stateler          1860 - 1936
.................. 4 Michael Cornelius Stateler b Oct 4 1863 Camargo Township,Douglas Co Il

...................... +Maggie Belle Meek Nov 28 1886 KS 1866 - 1948 KS
................... 4 John Henry Stateler b 28 OCT 1867 Anderson Township ClarkCo Il
...................... +Bertha B. Boyer

son Geo C b Oct 27 1908-Jno Henry Listed 1870 Clark Census age 2

................... 4 Charles Clinton Stateler b 12 MAY 1869 Anderson Township Clark Co Il d 1953

....................... +Leonia/Lenora Ennice Walker Dec 28 1904

-2 son Nicholas Longsworth b June 3 1906, Chas Raymond b July 29 1911

*2nd Wife of Charles Clinton Stateler:
....................... +Maude Goddard Timmerman Abt 1877 - 1936
................... 4 Howard Arthur Stateler b May 16 1872 Anderson Tnship Clark Co Il d 1948

............ 3 Stephen H. Stateler 1813 - Aft 1903
................ +Rachel Mapes Abt 1818 -
Independence Precinct, 20 Sept.1850, page 93

Stephen H(?) Stateler 36 born Ohio

Rachel " 32 "

Josephine " 12 "

Martin V.B. " 10 "

Thomas " 8 " b 1842

Erastus " 4 Indiana

Iowa -STATELER STEPHEN 55 M W OH IA UNION AFTON 1870 b 1813/14
.................. 4 Josephine Stateler 1838 - 1928
...................... +James Beale 1824 - 1898
................... 4 Martin J. B. Stateler Abt 1840 -
....................... +Louisa Shoenfeld
................... 4 Thomas K. Stateler Abt 1844 1928 - md Emma Jane
Minnesota RAMSEY 3-WD ST PAUL 1870 b 1845
STATELER T K 25 M W OH MN from: "The Cook's" <fcec@lvcm.com>

T132_10 pg. 86 3rd Ward City of St. Paul, Ramsey Co Mi 1870 Household #583
Curtis, D. L.    41 mw Surveyor & Eng. New York
      , H. U.       30 female New York
Bugess, L. W. 24 female New York
Stateler T K   25 mw Civil Engineer Ohio ******

Fr:Sandra Jones Hall shall@pacbell.net -I know some things about the T. K Stateler is in Saint Paul. He is still there in 1880 and in 1900 and 1910 he is in Alameda CA, where my Statlers moved about 1911. His first name is Thomas-wife Emma Jane children Melville b1874 Winnie b 1879 Ruth b 1883
Thomas died age 82 May 20, 1928 and his wife Nov. 30,1922 both in Alameda County I would think he was a grandson of Michael and Mary Bold, the only candidate is Thomas the son of Stephen who was listed as age 8 in 1850- If anyone needs proof they can get a death certificate from California

................... 4 Erastus Stateler Abt 1846 -
............ 3 Samuel Stateler 1815 - 1831
............ 3 Elijah Stateler 1817 d July 22 1838 [21y]
............ 3 James W. D. Stateler 28 June 1818 - 1898
............... +Pheobe B. Rowan/Round 1820 - md 23 March 1843

1850 Madison County, Ohio Sommerford Township, 6 August , page 170

James Statler 30 born Ohio

Phebe " 30 "

Michael " 6 "

Sarah " 4 "

William " 2 "

Chester " 6/12 "

Isaac E. Marsh 20 "

In "Biographical Sketches of Madison Co., Ohio, Somerford Twp." p1116, the life of James W.D. Stateler is recorded, in which his parents are stated to be "Michael and May (Dunlap) Stateler". James was born June 28, 1818. In a blind leap of faith, one could assume his full name to be James William Dunlap Stateler. Fr Bob
.................. 4 Michael Stateler II 1844 -
....................... +Mary A. ??? Abt 1842 -
................... 4 Mary E. Stateler I 1845 -
................... 4 Sarah Stateler III 1846 -
................... 4 William M. Stateler 1848 -
................... 4 Chester Stateler II 1850 -
.................. 4 George Stateler 1852 -
Indiana Goodmans Contributor: James Lynch woobie@peoplepc.com
http://www.bcpl.net/~dmg/indiana.htm?

Spencer County, Indiana Delayed Birth Records -Cleveland H. STATELER b: 8 May 1897 in Spencer Co. IN. Child # 1. Residence: Hatfield, IN -father, George STATELER, born in IN mother, Christina GOODMAN, born in IN record # 0086

. ................ 4 John R. Stateler 1854 - 1920
.................. 4 Mary Stateler III Abt 1855 -
.................. 4 Frederick Stateler Abt 1862 -

............ 3 Mary Stateler b Dec 23 1821 - 1901
............... +Thomas Soward Feb 16 1843

3 Samuel b 1822 d Nov 19 1831 [9y]

Fr Barbara McKinney babsmckiny@aol.com
............ 3 Salathiel Bold Stateler b Sep 28 1823 Deer Creek, Somerford Twp, OH

d 21 Apr 1882 Martinsville, Clark Co, IL

............... +1 Mary Jane Downey 1827 - 1867
1850 Clark County, Illinois Johnston Precinct District #68, 22 October , page 278

Salathiel Stateler 26 born Ohio

Mary " 24 "

Mary E. " 3 Illinois

Michael " 1 "

All children born in prob Clark co Illinois

................... 4 Mary Eliza Stateler 1847 - Abt 1913
................... 4 Michael Stateler 1849 - Abt 1852
................... 4 John D. Stateler Abt 1852 - Abt 1873
................... 4 Sarah Stateler Abt 1854 - Abt 1872
.......... ... .... 4 Celia Stateler Abt 1856 - Abt 1857
.......... ........ 4 Catherine Stateler II 1858 - Abt 1914
........... . ..... 4 Henry C. Stateler 1860 - 1916
...................... +Carrie Elston
.................. 4 George W. Stateler 1862 - 1870
.............. .. 4 Salathiel Andrew Stateler Feb 21 1864 - 8 Sep 1937

...................... +Cora Mary Pewthers Oct 13 1870 Mount Vernon, Lawrence Co MO d 1936

· Married: 24 Dec 1914

Charles D. Stateler b 21 JUL 1893

Erma Flabel Stateler b 21 NOV 1897 Minneola, KS d 17 Nov 1987 Des Moines Polk Co, IA

              + Henry Josiah Raymond abt 1914
             Lloyd G. Stateler b 10 MAR 1905 Minneola, KS

.................. 4 Charles Stateler Abt 1866 - Abt 1866

........... *2nd Wife of Salathiel Bold Stateler:
................ +Marinza Elston 1842 - [related to Carrie Elston md Salathiel's son Henry ?]
................... 4 Dora E. Stateler 1876 -
................... 4 Cra Stateler 1878 -
................... 4 Allise Stateler 1880 -
4 Charles Downey Stateler b July 21, 1893

............ 3 Chester Statler b Feb 15 1828 d Dec 10 1833 [6y]

This chart done by CARL- Sue, I'm sorry I don't know much about the family that far back. I'm paste what I was given by others, which I believe to be fairly accurate, but I don't know what the documentation was supposed to be. I got a lot of this from a Daniel Stateler in Florida. If he's feeling well he might like to

give you some info. I'm not sure which e-mail address is current for him. I'll put two here for you to try. Cuz Carl dstateler@mindspring.com dstateler@sprynet.com

also try Dan Feathers danfeathers@attbi.com or danfeathers@comcast.net
http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1723439&id=I121504199

^6th child of Stephen See More DATA below on this line

6. GEORGE STATLER, b Feb 15 1766 d Sep 191836 son of Stephen. Under terms of his father's will, George inherited the land on Dunkard Creek. He was a resident of Monongalia in 1793, when his property was levied by John Troy, constable, for his failure to appear as witness in George Snider's magistrate court, and again in 1796 when he sued and lost, regarding this attachment (15). The 1798 delinquent land tax list shows his residence as unknown, and it appears that he did not return to Monongalia (16). Living in Daviess County, KY, as of c1816 when he gave power of attorney to his nephew George Statelor, of Ohio, regarding real estate on Potamac River inherited under his father's will [sic; no Potomac real estate mentioned in the will] (17). Marital status and later history remain unknown at this time.
(13) Stanley, op cit., 1-14, 346, describes Stephen's adventures and gives some personal information. during the winter of 1836-7, Rev. L B Stateler visited his parents in KY; no further data on them appears in Stanley's biography, nor does Stanley identify the rest of Stephen's family. Lewis Collins, HISTORY OF KENTUCKY, (Covington, 1878, revised edition; originally published 1848) 2:vi, 666, credits Stephen Stateler Esq., of Hartford, "a pioneer and venerable and esteemed citizen of Ohio county," as his source for stories of early history. Children i-iii from IGI marriage entries.

(14) A. J. Baughman, CENTENNIAL BIOGRAPHICAL HISTORY OF RICHLAND CO., OH (Chicago, 1901), 608-609, names Michael and Sarah Stateler as the grandparents of Elisabeth Cunningham Baughman, the author's mother, and specifies that she was raised in their home after her mother's death. See also George Statler vs John Troy and George Snider, MCR env 29, which recites that Troy "put in fear" the wife and children of Statler's (unnamed) brother, who were at George's residence when Troy appeared there on constable's duty. Sarah Statler, probably the wife of Michael, was summoned as witness. George Statelor, nephew, of the state of Ohio, named in a power of attorney by George son of Stephen, 1816, is probably a son of Michael. Betty Lee Turner, "DESCENDANTS OF MARY STATELER AND THOMAS SOWARD," np, 1918, cites a Michael Stateler c1762-15 April 1842, who died in Madison Co., Ohio and who had served in the German army before coming to America. [Unsigned] HISTORY OF MADISON COUNTY, OH, (Chicago, 1883), 814, notes the death of Michael Statler, "a native of Virginia," who was killed by a falling tree in 1842. Statler's wife survived him about 30 years, Ibid. 1116-1117 , is a sketch of James W. D. Stateler, born 28 June 1818 in Licking Co., Ohio, son of Michael and Mary (Dunlap), natives of Virginia. It remains uncertain whether this man is Michael s/o Stephen or Michael "JR."

(15) Statler vs Troy and Snider, supra. Although he mentions the wife and children of his brother, there is no reference to his own wife or child, by which I presume he was not married at this time.

(16) Delinquent tax lists, MCR env 44. Monongalia Land Books carry George Statler as a property owner from 1796-1810, inclusive. However, cf Monongalia Surveys, 7:120, a 1785 survey for George Statler, heir of Stephen, 180 acres on Dunkard Creek, with Monongalia Deeds OS 3:4, Adam and Christina Shriver to Abraham Shriver, 10 March 1803. One call is missed, and there is a discrepancy in one line (215 poles with the meanders of Dunkard Creek in the survey, 311 poles with the meanders in the deed), but the land conveyed by the Shrivers appears to be the same tract formerly owned by George Statler. There is no conveyance by Statler, and none to Shriver, no is there a survey for Shriver, whose deed gives no provenance of title or tract history. Witnesses to the Shriver deed were Adam Brown, the son-in-law of John Statler, and John Stateler, probably son of Jacob.

(17) Daviess Co., KY, Deeds A: 50-51, cited in Michael L. Cole, "Daviess County Kentucky Abstract of Deed Book A," KY GENEALOGIST, 19, (1977) 112-113
Fr Rick Toothman-Thanks very much for the info on George Stateler/Statler and Elisabeth Smeathers. I did not have a birth date for him (he is a little older than I really thought he was, it would seem). There are a few references To him in Monongalia Co records, but not many, as he left here abt 1796 and most of the county records were burned that year. A civil suit of his, which I think is summarized in the Statler MS I wrote, gives about as much as there is. He inherited the "Statler's Fort" tract under his father's will and sold it to Adam Shriver but the deed is not now of record and may never have been. The land was carried on tax books as delinquent in his name for some years even though it was also taxed to Shriver. (The land books here were terribly neglected and were not properly updated for many years, for unknown reasons but perhaps just laziness.)

I found him eventually in southwest KY, by paging through numerous volumes of the magazine KY GENEALOGIST. This led me to the power of attorney he gave to his nephew re: supposed lands of his father back in WV, but nothing seems to have come of it. If I have reconstructed this family correctly, and I think I have, he was not the land heir of his father in any case.

SHRIVER- Fr:Brian Core greenhouseguy@juno.com -Adam Shriver had his first Northern Neck Grant Frederick Co 1765. Abraham/Mary Kackley)Shriver moved to Monongalia Co shortly aft marriage; he was found on 1796 Monongalia Co per prop tax list, with a horse and 3 cows. Adam Shriver and wife moved there too, possibly at the same time-settled on Dunkard Creek, and their families were buried on the farm. I believe the family cem is still accessible. Abraham Shriver's dau Christena married my ggg grandfather, Michael Core. I'm fortunate to have inherited their family Bible, printed in 1830. Michael/Christena (Shriver) Core are buried in the Doll's Run Cem across fr Doll's Run Christian Church Rt 7 Core, Monongalia Co WV. Core family lived Hampshire Co a few years bef settling Monongalia Co. My fifth-ggrandf George Core leased (frFairfax) lot no12 on west side of South Branch River, on South Branch Manor. I've researched the lot numbers with some degree of success, but I can only guess that the property was SW of Romney, actually very close to town. There is a creek called Core Creek, which I gather was named for George Core. He leaded the land in 1773,and transferred his lease to Andrew Pancake 1775. An oral family history relates that George Core was killed by Indians at STATLER'S Fort on Dunkard Creek in Monongalia Co 1778. The STATLER family for whom the fort was named were also from Hampshire Co; the more commonly-used version of their name was Stradler. 18 men were killed at the time, but only 5 names have been ascertained from Rev War pension records. George's son Michael (bro of my 4th-ggrandfather Christopher) patented land on Dunkard Creek at the mouth of Doll's Run 1785, by right of Geo Core's settlement, 1772 (but more likely 1775). My father grew up with Statlers all around him. When he was director of the county mental health clinic, he had a psychologist working there named Statler. Dr Statler was a German immigrant who came here after WWII. I get the impression that Statler is not an uncommon German name.Thanks for wrting,Brian D. Core POBox 1166 Brighton, CO 80601 Web Page: http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy

7th child of Stephen

7. STEPHEN STATLER jr, Son of Stephen, was perhaps born Aug 1770, probably on the South Branch, and died 9 June 1856 in Ohio County, Ky/Spencer Co In md Rhoda P Pigman June 18 1797 Ohio Co Ky b Apr 26 1778 Montgomery Co Md d 1852.

STEPHEN STATLER, brother to Geo, Sheriff Ohio Co Ky. Rhoda's parents Ignatius Pigman/Susannah Lamar, Ignatius d in La of influenza. Susannah b c1754 d Sept 1830 Ohio Co Ky [dau of John Lamar/Sarah Marshall]. They had Eliz, Mattie, Sallie, Susan, Ignatius and the Rev Learner Blackman

His father's will called for the real estate to be appraised and one third of its estimated value paid to sons Stephen and Michael, with son George to inherit the land. Stephen Jr. left Monongalia early, bound for New Orleans, but a series of mishaps stranded him in southwestern Ky, where he remd. He md, in Kentucky, Rhoda Pigman, daughter of Rev. Ignatius Pigman.

So Stephen was born about 1770. This means he was only about 14 when his father's Stephen will was probated. I looked at the Orphan Court records for Fayette County PA, to see if a guardian had been appointed but did not find anything. The point of my earlier post on this information is that Rick Toothman did an excellent job of digging up facts on this family and then not such a good job on analysis. Rick Toothman's articles are on the Statler web page under Family Documents: http://www.jcn1.com/mabccs/

1850 census District 1 Ohio County, Kentucky page 33 dwelling and household 464:

Stephen Stateler age 80 born Penn.

Rhoda Stateler age 72 born Maryland

Elosa Taylor age 52 born Kentucky

Susan Taylor age 21 born Kentucky

Mary Pigman age 66 born Maryland

[Learner Blackman is not listed, he md 1836]

Kentucky

STATELER STEPHEN 45 M W KY KY OH HARTFORD 1870 b 1825

Children of Stephen Statler jr / Rhoda Pigman parents of six children, including (13):

i.Eliza Statler, m. Nicholas C. Taylor, 13 March 1817, Ohio Co. KY

ii.Ignatius Pigman Statler b 1804 m. Siney Stevens, 19 Dec 1825, Ohio Co., KY

1850 Dwelling and household 465:

Ignacius Stateler age 46 …….son of Stephen[ md Siney Stevens]

Seny Stateler age 45

Ann Stateler age 16

Charlotte Stateler age 14

Marion Stateler age 11 male b 1839

1870 Kentucky STATLER CENSUS- "The Cook's" <fcec@lvcm.com>
STATELER MARION 30 M W KY KY OH HARTFORD 1870 -b 1840
Sarah Stateler age 8

Virgil Stateler age 3

Lucy Stateler age 1 all born in Kentucky

1870 Kentucky "The Cook's" <fcec@lvcm.com>
STATELER IGNATIUS P 66 M W KY KY OH HARTFORD PCT 1870 b 1804
1870 Ky Census-Ignatius P Stateler 66 M W Ky Ky Oh Hartford Pct

iii.Susannah L. Statler, m. Henry Stevens, 21 November 1831, Ohio Co., KY

iv.Statler, Mattie m William Duke 1818 Ohio Co KY

v. Statler, Sally m Richard Duke Feb 24 1823 Ohio Co KY

vi. Learner Blackman Stateler b Jul 7 1811 d May 1 1896 Corvallis MT

md Melinda Purdom Jan 26 1836

LEARNER BLACKMAN STATELER, 7 July 1811-1 May 1896, son of Stephen and Rhoda Stateler, b Ohio co Ky. Married, in Kentucky, to Melinda Purdom, 26 January 1836. Pioneer Methodist minister in Kansas and the Rocky Mountains, he died at Corvallis, Montana. (39) No issue.

Westport Kansas City Mo-UNION CHURCH SITE, 210 Westport Rd NE corner of Westport and Central. First church in Westport. Built of brick on land donated 1846 by Rev Learner Blackman Stateler Methodist missionary. The Methodists invited Presbyterians, Christians (Reformers) and Baptists to meet here until they could find suitable locations for their houses of worship.

[END OF DOCUMENT] A NOTE FROM THE SUBMITTER (Susanne Jones):

This paper ends abruptly because it was never finished. However, I thought it contained enough new and useful information that I asked Rick Toothman for permission to submit it. My line is John Statler (1774-1825), s/o Jacob (1750-1778), s/o Stephen

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Other info from Source: dstatler@mail.state.mo.us http://www.statelerweb.com

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~statler/statler/docs/snewsletters/sn0686.html

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Note fr Rick Toothman- The MS Susanne posted is one I wrote quite a few years ago, I think the working date on it is 1990. Nearly all the revised version had to do with new STATLER-HILEY info. I know Susanne has it but I'm not sure if she incorporated it into the version she worked up for posting.

All of my KY data basically came from 3 sources: the Taylor book on Ohio Co; a bit from Collins' HISTORICAL COLLECTIONS (the 1877 edition, in 2 volumes); and some other data from the KY GENEALOGIST. Oh, and the life of Learner B Stateler, as well, but it is not as detailed as the Taylor book. It seemed fairly obvious to me that George was the one who married there, since the date was too early for it to be anyone else, but I never knew what happened to him after the power of attorney in Daviess Co. While skimming a MS on film at the local LDS Library I saw some people who I thought were probably of his family but the notes I made never got into my Statler file and none of the children you cited look familiar to me. I'm not sure if this film is still there but when I get some breathing room I think I'll take a look and see if I can relocate it.

The published material here is a bit jumbled and no one had ever figured out the relationships within the family. Dates were distorted and there was some historical fiction about them which also messed things up quite a bit. I've since run into descendants from some of the families who went to OH, but there are still some things I don't know -- who was the "extra" Michael here in the early 1800s, for one. I believe Jacob (d 1778) may have had a son of this name, but it is still a little fuzzy.

How many wives Stephen (d 1783) had, I don't know. George names his mother as Susanna in the power of attorney, but there is no wife in Stephen's will. His children look to me, from their spacing, as if he had 2 wives. I.e., Catharine, who married Hiley, is now known to be the mother of all of Hiley's children. The oldest known was born in 1757, so she must be born by 1740 or so at latest. John, the apparent oldest son, married abt 1766 and is probably born in the early 1740s. Jacob, the next known son, is probably born before 1750. Then we have a gap of 10 years or so, with Michael, who is said in some sources to be born 1762, George born 1766 per the dates you cited, and Stephen, b 1770. One woman could be the mother of all, if she married fairly young, but there is still a gap, so that some children must have died or, more likely, there are 2 wives involved.

Unfortunately there seem to be no records at all to shed any light on this. No church records have been found for this family, and they lived in Hampshire Co, WV, and later in Monongalia, where may early records have been lost. Land records are often the only way you find wives in that period, but there seem to be none re: this family. Stephen did not apparently own any land in Hampshire Co (despite what George said in that document), and though he had a claim to land in WV he did not ever own it in his own name. It was surveyed for his heirs after his death and title was actually issued to George, as the heir at law under the will. Rick Toothman

As Licking County is a "burned" county, I don't know how many early tax records survive. I have seen the following ones:

1806-John,John Jr.,Michael

1807- " " "

1808- " " "

1809- " " "

1810- " " "

1816- " " "

1818(Deed) Michael ,George,Joseph (Not a tax list but does mention two new names)

1826-John,Michael,Jacob,Joel,Thomas

1834-John,Martin,Stephen Don't know if any more exist. Will search FHC files ASAP. Some of these names we know - others we don't. Does any of this ring a bell with anyone. "Jacob,Joel(Joseph?) , and Thomas" of 1826 Tax list are otherwise unplaced by me. Give me your thoughts. Bob

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6^th son Stephen Stadler and Susannah

George Statler b 1764 Mongolia WV d Sept 1836 Spencer co In

md Elizabeth Cecelia Smeathers Dec 13 1808 Spencer co In

DATA ON GEORGE STATLER/CECELIA SMEATHERS FR DESC

George and Elizabeth (Smethers) Statelar, were natives of Pennsylvania and Tennessee respectively. George born in 1766, came to Ohio County, Ky., about the beginning of the present century, where he was engaged in farming until 1808. He then went to Daviess County, the same State, was married, and lived there until 1818, when he came to this county. He bought a tract of land in Ohio township, which he cleared and improved, and upon which he lived until his death, September 19, 1836. Elizabeth died December 9, 1859. "History of Warrick, Spencer and Perry Counties, Indiana - Ohio Township" by Goodspeed Bros. & Co. - published in 1885

Searched "Spencer Co In Index of Names of Persons and of Firms," compiled by Fam Hist Sect In Hist Soc (Call Number IND Ref. 977.201 S745z), found Elizabeth/George Statelar mentioned on p. 486 of "Hist of Warrick, Spencer/Perry Cos [1885]Call# I 977.201 W295, or AGLL Fiche F-2663, or NW Series Reel 44 Item 156).George/Elizabeth Ohio Co Ky.

Biographies - STATLER GEORGE 1766 Pennsylvania - Heads of Fams. at the first US census PA. By US Bureau of Census. WA 1908 p426: 169 Ten "Series" of "Pennsylvania Archives" have been so far published in from 5 to 31v. Ea. Philadelphia & Harrisburg. 1852 (We have indexed Series 2, v.2 & v. 8 (early Pa Marr recds.) All the v. of Series V which contain nearly complete Pa Rev War rec Ser.5:7:320

***Statler's Run was land originally owned by George Statler [m Elizabeth Smeathers] father-Stephen Statler. Geo Statler b Monongalia Co WV.

ELIZABETH SMEATHERS STATELOR -Elizabeth was still in Kentucky in 1812 - Marriage record for children use the spelling Statelor/Stateler.

Fr Cuz Deb -I am sure you noticed this before but just in case. Elizabeth Smeathers wasn't married to George Statlor in 1801 so this is either a relative to Elizabeth's husband George or he had a previous wife. This Elizabeth may be John's wife name and not the daughter.

In reference to John Smeathers-there are several pieces of interesting items in Ohio Co Ky on him, being in a riot with Wm Smeathers, indicted, going to trial in 1801-with Eliz Smeathers, George Statlor, and Elizabeth Statlor being called to testify for them.

Fr: MStateler@aol.com 9 Apr 2002-Nena:Wm was my grandfathers bro. Hist Spencer Co pg489-WM STATELAR, one of the oldest and most highly respected residents of Spencer Co was born in the co Mar 1 1820. His parents, George and Elizabeth (Smethers) Statelar, were natives of Pa and Tn respectively. The father, born 1766, came to Ohio Co Ky abt the beginning of the present century, where he engaged in farming til 1808. He then went to Davies Co the same State, married lived there til 1818, when he came to this co. He bought a tract of land in Ohio Township, which he cleared and improved, and upon which he lived until his death, Sept 19 1836. The mother d Dec 9 1859. Wm Statelar rec'd his education in the primitive log schoolhouse of the frontier. At the age of 18 he took charge of his father’s farm, which he managed until a year after his marriage. He then farmed in various parts of the township, when he bought the place upon which he resides. Jan 29 1843 m Mary A McCollum of Oh d May 1 1864. By this marriage he is the father of 4 children now living. March 16 1865 he was united in marriage with Elmira Lashbrook. They have one child, Roy, now living. Mr. Statelar has been a member of the Methodist Church for nearly half a century. His wife is also a member. [Nena: The Uncle Billy they are referring to is Jacob’s brother.][Jacob Statler was Marva Stateler's gggrandfather]"Before Daniel Grass came here, he went to Yellow Banks, now Owensboro, Daviess Co Ky. There he m Jane Smithers [Smeathers], the dau of William Smithers [Smeathers], first settler of that place. Dr Jolly of Richland in Rockport papers abt a yr ago, stated that near Silverdale old “Uncle Billy” Statler was b in first Spencer Co courthouse. This courthouse of Dr. Jolly’s statement is same building which Daniel Grass had his store, near Knob City. Billy Statler’s mother and Mrs. Daniel Grass were sisters and when Daniel Grass moved his store to Rockport 1818, after Rockport became the county seat, George Statler moved from back of Owensboro KY and occupied this cabin where ‘Uncle Billy’ was born."

From: MStateler@aol.com 29 Jun 2001 I have paperwork that states that Elizabeth was dau of Wm/Cecelia Smeathers. George and Elizabeth Smeathers are my GGGGrandparents. 23 Aug 2001 The middle name Cecilia has just always been know in my family as Elizabeth's middle name.

Fr: Marva Stateler MStateler@aol.com I have always been told that Grandmother Elizabeth and Jane Grass were sisters. When I was a child, I read at the Rockport library that Daniel Grass and Grandfather George Stateler stood on the bluff at Rockport and said, "someday this will be a great metropolis". I don't know what book I read this in and since then have tried to find it and have not had any luck. I do know that the Stateler's owned most of the Knobs.

Fr Marva Stateler mstateler@aol.com 4-3-2003- Nena: the school and the cemetery are both in Rockport. I don't remember anything about the grist and saw mill although that's how I grew up, my family owned and ran Stateler's Saw Mill in Rockport. Marva

Fr: MStateler@aol.com 16 Aug 2001-"The Knob Hill cabin no longer exists. Stateler graveyard is still there. I could show you where the cabin did sit but it would be hard for me to tell you. It was gone before my time. When I was a kid George and Elizabeth's house was gone except for the well. The area where all of this is covered with moccasin snakes. When I was young, I sat in Stateler Graveyard and wrote poetry and short stories. My Grfather Vernie Stateler would get very upset because of the snakes but I never saw one. All of the land in Knobs belonged to Stateler's at one time. My Grfather Vernie Stateler sold the last of it. It's very pretty there. I know our Grandmother Elizabeth must have loved it. Most of it was lost in gambling debts. My GGGrandmother remarried after the death of my GGGrandfather and the new husband was a gambler/drinker and lost almost everything they had. My GGrfather Stateler raised peonies in the Knobs had acs and acres of them. He put them on the train and send them everywhere. My Mother still has one of his peony bushes." One other story about the Old Rockport Cemetery. When I was a kid all of us kids would go down there and use a grape vine to swing over the creek. I almost always got stuck in the middle. The Stateler Cemetery is where I spent most of my time. I used to go there and write poetry. It was very pretty and peaceful there. The Old Rockport Cemetery is where we played. The Old Rockport Cemetery is where Daniel & Family are buried. Our Grandmother Elizabeth is buried in the Knobs at the Stateler Cemetery. I had an old brick from the Stateler home in the Knobs for many years but it got lost in shipment when I moved to Germany.>Marva

From: MStateler@aol.com 3 Apr 2003-Nena: Rockport and the Knobs are two different places. The Knobs is about 1 mile from downtown Rockport. George Stateler lived in the Knobs and that is where William Stateler was born 1820 to George Statler and Elizabeth Cecelia Smeathers. The Knobs was never an official town. This is where the Cemetery is that George Stateler & wife Elizabeth Cecelia Smeathers & other Stateler's are buried. Daniel Grass, wife Jane Smeathers & son Joseph are buried in the Ole Rockport Ceme behind the Middle School in Rockport. When George Statler and Daniel Grass came to this area, George settled on land in the Knobs and Daniel settled on land that is now Rockport. I am not good with measurements but I would say George and Daniel lived about 1 mile apart. It is a shame what they have done to the graveyard. The Stateler Cemetery where Elizabeth is buried in the Knobs is in the same shape. A banker bought the Stateler land that the cemetery sit on and plowed it up but my Grandfather raised sand and he sit most of the stones back up. The old Rockport Cemetery where Jane is buried should not have been private property. I will check into that. If I can remember correctly, there were all kinds of names there when I was a child. It is hard to get down in there now. I can do most of this by phone and that will be better on this old body. Marva

From: coopville@webtv.net 9 Dec 2002-Grass Township states, among early settlers were Thomas Hackerman, James Tinker, William Allensworth, Mason J Howell, The Jones, Casebeers, Browns, Brislow, DeWiess, Allens, Rays, Welches, and others to name a few--tracts of land entered-- Thomas M. Jones Feb. 1818 , section 32--Henry Jones section 3, August of 1818--Section 4 Gabriel Jones and John Brown Oct. 1819----Samuel Brown Sec. 10 , 1817-----R W Griffith sec 18, 1818--sec 30 Samuel and James Moore 1814--- Election held at Ellis Wright home in 1832 shows 65 votes for Jackson--32 for clay----year 1848.Leonard Jones helped build a log church ----A Masonic lodge built abt. 1848---abt 1858 some of the charter members for church were William Stateler and Jacob Stateler Sr.---this church refinished in 1953--Many other names here but these are ones that look familar to me folks---Coop

NOTE: Data from descendant Betty Alderson says Elizabeth held the first school for Negro children Knob City Store Spencer Co IN and later became the Spencer Co Courthouse. This Cabin was where son Wm Statler was born as the lst white child aft In became a state. Cabin was located by the Statler Cem Ohio Tnsp-Knob Hill, cabin no longer remains there, only a marsh says Marva Statler, Statler descendant. Daniel Grass, bro-in-law to Eliz was owner and operator of the store.

NOTE: Elizabeth and George are buried at Statler Cemetery, Ohio Twp Spencer Co IN.

fr: middleton@rockport-spco.lib.in.us Ms Randy L Bixby Ref Lib Gen Div In - we searched under various spellings of the name. The only ref we found to the spelling Smethers was on p. 486 of History of Warrick, Spencer and Perry Counties [1885] (Call Number I 977.201 W295, or AGLL Fiche F-2663, or NW Series Reel 44 Item 156), stating she was the mother of William Stateler, and was a native of Tennessee.

State Lib: This was the same pg on which George Stateler appeared, as per our reply of Jan 25 2001 more extensive research on Elizabeth Stateler's school for Negro children contact one of the Prof. researchers who work with Lib collections. list of these researchers at http://www.statelib.lib.in.us/WWW/INDIANA/researchers.html Spencer Co Pub Lib may have more info. address is: 210 Walnut Street, Rockport, IN 47635-1398, phone (812) 649-4866. Spencer Co Hist Soc located in the Pub lib-Becky Middleton Spencer Co Hist address : 6277 N Co Rd 550 E Grandview IN 47615 Off Ph 812/649-4866 Hm Ph 812/362-8573

Fr BRMsMOM@aol.com 8 Jan 2002 To: kgrone@yahoo.com "reading your post on Elizabeth Smother's. In the NOTE section you stated that the Stateler Home is listed as a historical monument. Are you referring to the house in Spencer Co in the Knobs? If so, there is no longer a house standing or any buildings. I believe there is a foundation where their old house stood. My husband is of the Stateler line. His Mother is a Stateler. We have visited the Stateler graveyard located in "Knobs" (a place hilly/filled w/trees) outside Rockport In abt 2mi. We have pics of gravestones, George, Elizabeth and several others. We can scan them and send. How do you know that Stephen and Susanna are George's parents? Did George really come to Ohio Co KY bef his older brother? My husband and I didn't know that. Any info you can send would be greatly appreciated.">Cheryl Roth

The Indiana Historical Society has file of manuscript notes gathered by William H. English in the late 1880's. He intended a volume on members of the two Indiana State Conventions and members of the State Legislature, but work was never completed. Included in this collection are 11 items relating to Grass. Many scrappy or repetitious. Evidently data on Grass was difficult to locate then! None comes from a descendant. Only two give any family data:

Dec 13, 1885 letter to English from Rockport. Writer not identified, but on stationery of Law Office of Taylor and Hemenway, Boonville. 3p. Letter has changes, apparently made by English.

p.1, says Daniel Grass died in 1836. Father of 5 boys and 2 girls, all of whom lived to maturity. All now dead (1885). Has 8 grandchildren and one nephew, all adults, all married and all except one living in Spencer County. No names given.

Jan 7, 1886, card, H.G. Barkwell, Rockport. Nephew of Daniel Grass is William Stateler.

DESCENDANTS OF GEORGE STATELER/ELIZ CECELIA SMEATHERS

-dau/o William Smeathers & Cecelia UNK

George Statler B Feb 15 1766 Pa D Sept 19 1836 Spencer Co In

+ Elizabeth Cecelia Statler Aug 8 1808 Spencer Co In

NOTE:Elizabeth "Cecelia" Smeathers dau/o Wm Smeathers & Cecelia she b June 1 1781 D 12-9-1859 Spencer Co IN. She 27 @ marriage, 53 @ last child, 77 @ death; Geo 42 @ marr, 70 @ death. Both buried Statler Cem Spencer co In.

NOTE:1790 PA-George Statler-Heads of Family, US Census Northampton Bethlehem Image 0465; Roll M637_8

1800 Ky Ohio Co Census listed George Statler

NOTE:George Statler m Eliza Smeathers Au 8 1808-Ky Marriage to 1850

1820 Spencer Co In Census MICROFILM#: M33-15

90 Stateles George 3 . . . . 1 1 . . 1 .
3m b up to 10 -Jacob, Wm, Joseph

1m b 45 up - George

1f up to 10 - Susanna

1f 26-45 - Elizabeth

1850 Ohio Twp census-#868 Elizabeth 69y Va [b 1781]; Susanna 40y Ky [b 1810]; Mary J 24y In [b 1826]; Mary E 16 In [b 1834]. [Geo is dead as of 1836]

Children of Geo Statler and Eliz Cecelia Smeathers: [6 kids]

Susanna H Statler b 1810

Jacob Jake Statler b 1811

Tulauah Elizabeth Statler b 1814

William Statler b 1820

Mary Jane Statler b 1826

Mary Elizabeth Statler b 1833

1^ST Child of George Statler & Eliz Cecelia Smeathers

2 Susanna H. Statler B abt 1809 Ky [prob never md]

2^nd child of George Statler & Eliz Cecelia Smeathers

2 Jacob 'Jake' Statler b Dec 24 1811 Ky D Mar 22 1885

+1 Keziah Lawwell M Jan 10 1833 Spencer Co IN

NOTE:Grass Township states-among early settlers were Jacob Stateler sr and Wm Stateler, charter members of the Masonic Lodge church-1858-church refinished 1953 to present state."

NOTE: fr Spencer Co Newspaper Abstract 1844-1925 Vol 1

"died Jake Stateler Mar 28 1885 Spencer co Indiana."

NOTE: Marr rec Spencer Co In marr 1818-1850 Book 1-3 Wm Ruble-JP

1850 Census Spencer Co In Oh Twp # 869-Jacob 38 farmer Ky; Keziah 33 In; Wm 14; Susan 12; Jane 11; Joseph 9; Luther 7; John 5; Wash Lyol 25 In.

1860 Census-#276 Jacob 49y 5000/1500 Ky; Keziah 42y Ky; Jane 21y In; Joseph 18y In; Luther 17y In; John 13y In.

NOTE:When Jacob died, his 2^nd wife Sara Anna Harris married Harvey Ice.

Children of Jacob/Keziah

3 Mary Statler b Dec 19 1833 m David Bingle ?

3 Wm Statler b 1835

3 Susan Statler b 1837 m Charles C. Higby aft 1860

1860 Spencer Ohio Twp #23-Susan Stateler 22y In living with Edward/Fannie Burs;

3 Jane Statler b 1838

+ ? Nixon

NOTE:Jane McCullan Marr rec Spencer Co In marr 1818-1850 Book1-3 pg33 Jno Pinkston-JP

3 Joseph Statler b Mar 9 1841 d Feb 8 1862 md Sarah Jane McCullan d May 1 1864

3 Luther Statler b Feb 1843 d Mar 4 1898

+ Mariah Leaveanld Tevault 20 APR 1864 Spencer Co IN She b FEB 1843 Millersburg,Warrick Co,IN. [7 kids]

1880 Census

Luthur STATELER      Self M Male     W 37 IN Farmer              PA PA [says Jacob b Pa]
Mariah STATELER    Wife M Female W 36 IN Keeping House IN IN
Alva STATELER         Son S Male    W 16 IN Farmer               IN IN
Samuel S. STATELER Son S Male     W 15 IN Farmer               IN IN

NOTE: Shiloh Cemetery is located in Folsomville In Warrick Co. 6 Mi East of Boonville In

Also Known As Matthew Gentry Cemetery

Samuel Stateler 1865-1944 [son/o Luthur/Mariah]

Caroline Stateler 1865-1950 [Samuel's wife?]

Wm Stateler 1886-1912

Melvin Stateler 1889-?

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Alace S. STATELER    Dau S Female W 12 IN At Home IN IN
Henry B. STATELER   Son S Male   W 10 IN Farmer     IN IN
William L STATELER Son S Male   W   7 IN                  IN IN
Ida STATELER            Dau S Female W 3 IN                  IN IN
Minna STATELER      Dau S Female W 1 IN                  IN IN
Source Information:Census Place Boon, Warrick, Indiana
Family History Library Film 1254320 NA Film Number T9-0320 Pg 208A

3 John Statler b 1844 m Mary E. Oliver

3 Dau Statler b Jul 30 1846 d Sept 22 1846 [2mo]

Jacob Statler b 1811

+2) Sara Anna Harris m 1875 b Jul 14 1852 Oh d Jul 18 1928

NOTE:Sara Harris brother George Harris, brother of Sara Ann Harris (Sarah was married to Jacob T Stateler). This picture was taken probably when they were married. Name of the wife pictured is unknown. George Riley Harris was born 1.20.1861, probably in OH. When his first wife (as pictured) passed away, he married Amelia Cline Pasley (wife of Wm James Pasley) in April 16, 1900, Spencer Co IN. George Riley Harris was also the uncle of Rosalie D Pasley.

Children of Jacob Statler& Sara Anna Harris

3 Samuel Tilden Statler b Jun 23 1877 d Apr 10 1950

+ Minnie M Wire b Jun 9 1880 d Jan 21 1966

Surname: STATELER Given Name: SAMUEL Age: 32 Sex: M Race: W Birth Place: IN Co: SPENCER Locale: OHIO TWP T624-Roll: 380 Part: 1 Page: 166

NOTE: I am from the George, Jacob, Samuel line. My grandfather Raymond Stateler is one of Samuel's sons. Danfeathers@attbi.com
NOTE: Is Minnie Wire related to Nancy Ann Wire who m Geo Trisler, half bro to Francis Trisler that m Wm Statler's son Charles Statler?..and how does Lee Ota Wire m Kowgitz fit in with these Wire's?

4 Raymond Statler

4 Virgil Statler b May 30 1897 d Jun 10 1898 [1y]

4 Vernie Statler b Sept 24 1899 d Mar 21 1987

+1)Amelia Margaret Frank

5 Joseph Samuel Statler b Nov 20 1919 d Sept 18 1975

+ Zella Francis Colmon b May 11 1921 [Marva's line]

6 Marva Jolene Statler b Dec 22 1940 [ret Psychologist] **

Fr Marva-My son was married there in the gazebo overlooking the Ohio River. In the paper it said that he was married in Smothers Park that was named after his GGGG Grandfather. That was about 16 years ago.

Fr: BRMsMOM@aol.com I have pictures of Elizabeth (Smeathers) & George Stateler's gravestones. The Stateler Family Cemetary is about 4.5 miles from my home. I live in Spencer County Indiana where they married and raised their family. Daviess County Kentucky is just across the river from me. There is a park named after Wm Smeathers there, in Owensboro. My Mother-in-Law has info on the Statelers & Smeathers. Her name is Marva Stateler, MStateler@aol.com . Hope this helps. Cheryl

Fr Marva: I have cousins, Nick and Ron Stateler. Ron has been working on our family history. Michael was his Grandfather. I don't know how many Greats that is. stateler@joink.com. He has a lot of information.

Mike Robinson is married to my cousin, Cheri. Jane Smeathers would also be her Aunt because Elizabeth Smeathers Stateler is her Grandmother also --so Mike may not know it but its all in the family.
I'll tell Mike when I see him tomorrow. Cheri may not realize she has a relative buried there. I'll let her know. Marva

Fr Lila Daniel- I made some contacts, at the Building Committee meeting last night. We are adding a activities wing to our 135 year old church and I love construction, so I volunteered to be on the building committee. So I asked a teacher that is also a building nut what Mr. Robinson's e-mail was and here it is. His name is Mike Robinson and he is a very good superintendent. mrobinson@sspencer.k12.us

6 Norman Gene Statler b Oct 3 1942 [ret fr factory]

6 Geri Ann Statler b Mar 6 1955 [nurse]

5 Josephine Statler b Oct 1 1921 d Jul 19 1995

5 Mary Elizabeth Statler b Sep 18 1924 d Apr 8 1991

+ Albert Robinson, (no relation to Mike Robinson, another family completely)

6 Cheri Lee Statler

+ Mike Robinson and they have 2 children

NOTE:Mike Robinson Supt of School's vouching for cleaning up Ole Rockport Cem

5 Maxine Statler b Aug 8 1926 d Sept 16 1926 [1mo]

5 Robert Jake 'Bob' Statler b Dec 16 1929 d Aug 2001

+2)Ruby

NOTE: Fr cattewest@juno.com "My aunt and uncle were Vernie Statler and Ruby. Trying to connect to Wire viz Lee Ota Wire Kowgitz."

3 Jacob Taylor Statler b Jun 9 1880 d Jan 21 1966

+ Rosalie 'Rosa' D Paceley Sept 22,1900 Spencer Co, IN. 1883-1977

3 Ettie Jane Statler b Apr 30 1883 d May 7 1954

+ George Albert Paceley Oct 12 1907 Rockport In

NOTE: son/o Wm J Paceley b 1851 d 1888 and Amelia 'Millie' Cline b 1853 d 1932 m 1873. George Riley Harris, bro to Sara Harris Stateler md Amelia Apr 16 1900.

NOTE:Fr lkiltchaser@aol.com "Researching Wm Paceley-Etta J Statler."

Children of George Albert Paceley and Etta Jane Stateler:

1. Wayne Paceley b 7.19.1908 d. 2.24.1994. Married Hylma Woodcock on July 31.1938 in Decatur, IL. They have no children.

2. Harold Paceley b 1.4.1911 d.1.28.1996 Md Bernice Morthland. Children: Helen, Betty and Patricia Rose.

3. Lowell E Paceley b. 10.2.1913 d. 5.1.1945 in Italy during WWII. Married Olive Miller. Children: Judith Ann and Linda Sue--all were still born.

4. Melbourne Paceley b. 9.12.1916, Maroa, IL d. 2.16.1989 Ft Myers, FL. Married Velma Elsie Johnson b. 12.4.1918 d. 1.14.1974 Decatur, IL. Married on Dec 19.1937 in Decatur, IL. Buried at Gracelawn Cem, Decatur, IL. Children: Russell Lee, Joyce Annett, Melbourne Arthur (my father), Mary Ellen, Nancy Sue, Candis Jean, George Albert, John Raymond. This is a BIG family and lots of information on this side.

5. Damon Paceley b. 8.10.1919 d. 1.27.1920

6. William " Willie" Paceley b. 9.6.1921 d. June 11.1985. Married Rosalie Leach. Children: Kenneth Alan, Barry Eugene and David William.

We have the family book in print for George Albert and Etta Jane's kids and their descendents. If you can, send me your mailing address and I will have my father forward the book to you. We have made ALOT of these books and from time to time, we get some requests. No money is needed.

As for the two boys, I dont have them listed. They must be related someway but I will have to figure who they belong to. Robin Paceley ewesheeptwo@yahoo.com

4 Bertram 'Bert' Paceley b Dec 9 1905 d Jun 25 1961

+ Gladys

4 Raymond 'Ray' Paceley b Oct 5 1910 d Jul 3 1973

+ Anna Tilley

Fr Robin's Aunt Jo: I haven't heard of a Bert, but have heard of a Raymond, but don't know whose kid it is. It definately is not one of George and Etta's boys. Theirs were the ones you know of already, Harold, Wayne, Lowell, Melbourne, Damon, and William. By the way, did you know there is a town in Kentucky named Melbourne? I wonder if that is where Grandma got dad's name from. Gramajojo5@aol.com

NOTE:fr Robin Paceley-ewesheeptwo@yahoo.com -Since you mentioned that Etta Jane's was related to Smothers-Smethers, indeed she was. I can only go back so far on Smethers but it is pretty scant on my end. The direct male line of Pasley is not easy and we have a heck of a time finding one certain ancestor. I wondered where Smethers came from and how far do they go back to. In what were you related to? It is certainly a delight to hear from you and hopefully we can continue research our family tree. Seems like every year the family tree keeps growing and not enough pages to put in the existing book. I have not been to the Paceley reunion in Indiana but my distant cousin did went to it and had a good time there.All I have is Elizabeth Smethers born June 1, 1781 and died in Dec 17, 1859 in KY and her parents were William "Bill" Smethers-b. 1760 d. 1837 and Nancy Celicia Fitzpatrick - her info is unknown at this point. William Bill Smethers was William Smethers--parentage info unk and Anna Marie Chrisman which I do have plenty of pedigree on Anna. I have no information on her children,etc.picture of George Albert Paceley and Etta Jane Statler but anything else I dont have any from my Grandpa. Robin Paceley

1880 Census

Melvin ICE       Self    M   Male      W 34   OH Farmer              OH OH
Ella ICE           Wife   M   Female   W 22   OH Keeping House OH OH
Jennie P. ICE    Dau     S   Female   W 4    IN At Home            OH OH
Clarence ICE    Son     S    Male      W 3    IN                            OH OH
Jessee ICE        Son     S    Male       W 1    IN                           OH OH
ICE                   Dau     S    Female W 2M   IN --- ---
George W. ICE Brother     Male      W 24   IN Farm Laborer    OH OH
Sally E. PACELY SisterL Female   W 15   IN House Keeper   OH OH
Source Information:Census Place Ohio, Spencer, Indiana
Family History Library Film 1254311 NA Film Number T9-0311 Pg 109D

NOTE:Is Sally Pacely kin by marriage to the above George Paceley m Ettie Jane Statler? Ettie was not born til 1883 and Sally was b 1865 acc/to 1880 census & md at 15y but don’t see her husband, dead? Ettie could even be her dau??

Fr Robin Paceley-3-4-2003-As for the Sally Paceley I do show her as kin to George Albert Paceley. The only record I have of a Sally E Pasley born 1/8/1866. Her brother was William James Pasley-Paceley--who he married Amelia "Millie" Cline. Sally married Dick Beeler, marriage date unknown. That is all the info on Sally I have on record of this point. Melvin's wife full name that we have here was Harriet Ellen "Ella" Pasley born 10/1/1857 in Hamilton Co OH, died 12/27./1937 Spencer Co IN.

Children of William J Paceley-Pasley and Amelia "Millie" Cline.

-Benjamin Franklin Pasley b Oct 20 1874 IN d. 1956 md Eliz Palmer

Sally Paceley b 1866 is George's aunt thru his father's side. Sally's father is Benjamin F Pasley and Elsina or Elizabeth Palmer. Her siblings were: William J Paceley (George Albert's father), Harriet Ellen Pasley md Lewis Ice[son/o Melvin Ice], -born Sept 1885 in Spencer Co IN His father was Melvin Ice and mother was Harriet Ellen Pasley. Parents were married on April 18, 1875 in Indiana. He has four brothers and two sisters--all were born in Indiana. See 1880 census

Mary A Pasley, Lewis Frank Pasley, Horace E Pasley and finally Sally E Pasley b Jan 8, 1866 -- she married a Dick Beeler marriage date unknown

-Robert Melvin Pasley-Paceley b Oct 25.1875 d. 11.17.1961

-Charles Edgar Pasley b 12.3.1877 d. 7.19.1959

-William Delbert Pasley b.5.12.1880 d.?

-George Albert Paceley b. 4.20.1886 d. 12.31.1957

-Rosalie Darcus Pasley b. 5.23.1883 d. 6.11.1977-married Jacob Taylor "Jake" Stateler

Jacob Taylor Stateler Jr B: 6/9/1880 Rockport IN and died 1/21/1966 Rockport IN. He married Rosalie D. "Rosa" Paceley on Sept 22,1900 Spencer Co, IN. Date taken unknown. Children: unknown at this time.

-Jasper Lee Pasley b. 10.4.1888 d. 12.20.1888

-Lucy Paceley b. 3.24.1876

-Anna Paceley b. 1884 d. 1955

Sarah Harris Stateler [Jacob's 2^nd wife] m2 Harvey ICE

NOTE: "Fr Marva-My GGGrandmother remarried after the death of my GGGrandfather and the new husband was a gambler/drinker and lost almost everything they had."

Fr Michael in England-2-22-2003-A woman named Deborah Halfhill, from Fostoria, Ohio responded to my post about Harvey Ice on the internet forum.
Harvey Ice is her great grandfather and Ella is her grandmother. Her Dad is Edward Walters. I asked her about the riverboat gambler story. More evidence that the real gambler was NOT Harvey (a sweet loveable man by all accounts), but rather was Jake Stateler. Her response to me is pasted below:
Thank you for sending me that picture of gg-pa Ice and gg-ma Ice. I really do appreciate it as I really don't know that much about my family on the Ice side or the Walters side. Grandma Ellie died when I was only 9 years old and I don't really remember her except her funeral that I went to. Also I have an older brother that looks just like Harvey!
My dad (Edward Walters) only talked a little about his family after he got older in years but he told me he remembered Jake Stateler. He told me that Jake Stateler Sr. was a riverboat gambler and that he gambled all his "worth" away. He never told me where .He would chuckle as he told it. I was told that Sarah had three children by Jacob Stateler:
Jacob, Jr. and a set of twins and then she had two sets of twins with Harvey, George and Georgianna and Ella and Nellie. There was also William and a baby that died (name unknown). I have a picture of g-pa Walters and g-ma (Ella) on their 40th wedding anniversary. my dad was Edward Walters, son of Ella (Ice) Walters and her mother was Sarah (Harris) Ice. My dad always told me the story of Jacob Sr. being the gambler of the family and how he gambled all his property away. He told me about his Uncle Jake, Jr. and when they would come to the family reunions. My dad didn't talk about his family too much but he always told of Jacob Stateler,Sr. Debbie Halfhill maidmollie51@aol.com

They had 6 children:

Nellie Ice m William Walters Jan 19 1908

-had son Chester Walters

Ella Ice [twins] m Elmer Walters Jun 16 1906

-desc HOLLY ICE Oklahoma

NOTE:Ashby/Walters..?? Children of Thomas Ashby and Sarah Henely are:
Ann5 Ashby. She md Thomas Walters October 18, 1796 in Fauquier Co. Va.

Dorothy Ashby. She married John Walters August 01, 1806 in Winchester, Frederick Co. Va.

Georgeann Ice md Abshier

George Ice

William Ice

Rose Ann Ice d infancy

NOTE:Fr Marva-Harvey was m1 Emma Catherine Harris, Sarah's sister

They had 2 children:

Sarah Keziah Ice b 1878 IN d bef 1848

- had Ola and Wilma

Mahalia Gertrude Ice b 1879 m John Martin

-desc Michael Schell

1880 United States Census
[Harvey & Emma Catherine lst wife]
Harvey ICE Self M Male   W 30 OH Farm Laborer VA OH
Emma C. ICE Wife M Female W 26 OH Keeping House NJ OH
Sarah K. ICE Dau S Female W 2 IN At Home       OH OH
Mahalah G ICE Dau S Female W 1 IN               OH OH
Source Information:Census Place Ohio, Spencer, Indiana
Family History Library Film 1254311 NA Film Number T9-0311 Pg 109C

George Ice and Mahala-had at least 10 children area of confusion is the list of the children of George Ice. My grandmother only remembers her older uncles: William (Will), ?Melvin (Mel), and Madison (Mad). Will was a rich first-born farmer who lived near Evansville; Mel was also a rich farmer , Mad had a peg-leg and a great sense of humor (but his wife was a ?sourpuss,? according to my Grandmother). There were apparently up to 10 younger children, but my Grandmother has no memory of Andrew Jackson (your other relative), Sarah/Sally, George, James Buchanon, Amanda/Mandy, Emma, Calvin, or John W. Another post I have for these children includes Buck, Hallie, and Jack. On the more recent branches of my family tree. you?ll find the baseball star Kirk Gibson. Kirk ?Gibby? is now retired but will be the bench coach for the Detroit Tigers next year. He is my first cousin. Thus, he is descended from Gertie and is your relative by virtue Gertie?s mother (Katherine) is the sister of Anna Statler. Confusing! Fr: Michael Schell

1880 Census
George ICE   Self   M Male    W 54 OH Farmer              OH OH
Mahala ICE Wife M Female W 52 OH Keeping House VA VA
Madison ICE Son       Male     W 28 OH At Home           OH OH
James B. ICE Son      Male      W 22 IN Farm Laborer     OH OH
Amanda ICE Dau     Female   W 20 IN At Home            OH OH
Source Information:Census Place Ohio, Spencer, Indiana
Family History Library Film 1254311 NA Film Number T9-0311 Pg 109D

"Harvey Ice, son of Mahala and George Ice, George Ice (father of Harvey) is the grandson of Indian Billy Ice, who was the grandson of Fredericke Iaac, was born on Oct. 13, 1848. About 9 O'clock on the morning of March 24, 1926 he died. [George Ice brother to Melvin Ice] Besides his wife he leaves to mourn his loss seven children, three brothers, two sisters, three step-children, and thirty-nine grandchildren. In 1877 he was united in marriage to Kate Harris, who died leaving two small children; Kizzie, who preceded him in death, and Gertie, now Mrs. John Martin, of Bellevue, Ohio. A few years later he was united in marriage to **Anna Harris Stateler**, widow of Jacob Stateler, son of George Stateler & Elizabeth Cecelia Smeathers. To this union were born six children, Mrs. Ella Walters, Mrs. Nellie Walters, and George, all of Evansville, and Mrs Georgianna Abshier, of Kenney, Ill., and one died in infancy. The funeral was preached at Cross Roads church by Rev. William Medcalf. Interment was at the Hackleman cemetery". [Fr Bellevue, Ohio Newspaper].

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Fr Michael Schell- mjs54@cam.ac.uk 12-16-2002-England - correction: I mis-typed in my post. Harvey's first wife was Catherine/Kate Harris-Ice. Harvey and Catherine had two daughters, Mahala Gertrude (Gertie) and Hezzika (Kizzy). Soon after giving birth to Kizzy, Catherine died. Gertie, is my 2-greats grandmother. For the record (and according to my Grandmother?s memory) Kizzy had two children named Ola and Wilma. Also, according to my Grandmother, Kizzy md to a ?riverboat gambler? See my discussion below about who was the gambler. Harvey later md Catherine's sister, Anna/Sarah Harris Stateler, who is your relative. Harvey and Anna did indeed have 6 children. It seems I missed Will when I transcribed the obit. The children are (note: Ella and Nellie were twins and married Walters brothers):
Mrs. Ella Walters (Bellevue, OH) twin of Nellie; b. 1887, m Wlm
Walters Jan 19, 1908
Mrs. Nellie Walters (Bellevue, OH) twin of Ella, m Elmer Walters
June16, 1906

[Fragment of info: Nellie had a son named Chester]
George Ice (Belluevue, OH)
Will Ice (Evansville, IN)
Mrs. Georgianna Abshier (Kenny, IL)
An unnamed infant who died.

I also have the wedding picture of Harvey Ice with his second wife Sarah Harris Stateler-Ice, who was sister of Anna Katherine Ice and Married Harvey after Sarah died.

I live in England. I'm 100% Yankee, but because I have a German wife, we have spent some years in Europe to be closer to her family. We are in the midst of a job search to return to the USA. Finally, I have that wedding picture of Harvey and Sarah, but I seem to only have it on a disc at work. I guess you are only my relative by virtue of the fact Harvey Ice md sisters. I would be interested in exchanging information, since I have none for your branch of the family. I can have another look at the Ice wedding picture to be sure I got the correct Stateler. I'm certain my Grandmother (Grandaughter of Harvey, still alive age 101!) has mentioned the gambling habit.>
I was searching for Holly Ice because of her post in the Ice forum from two years ago. Holly (who apparently lives in Ok). I dont know how Holly ended up in Ok but thats in your neck of the woods, perhaps you can find her? She claims to have lots to share, but I never managed to communicate with her after finding her post.
Now we come to the confusing issue of ?who was the gambler?? In her post, Holly Ice says the riverboat gambler was Jacob Stateler not Harvey Ice. My Grandmother would certainly confirm that Harvey, her grandfather, was a dear man, who struggled to raise his two daughters without a mother before her married Anna/Sarah Harris Stateler. Since Anna/Sarah Stateler had 3 children from her marriage with Jacob (according to the Holly Ice post) plus the two from Harveys first marriage to Catherine, plus the 6 children they had together it is hard for me to believe that Harvey had much time for gambling! So it seems most likely that the gambler was either Jacob Stateler (how did he die; what became of his 3 children?) or perhaps Kizzys husband (unk). I dont know whether it was my relative or yours (or neither) who was the gambler! Eventually we ought to be able to get to the bottom of this and find out which family is squeaky clean? and which one is scarlet lettered! LOL
By linking into the Ice family, you have found a genealogy jackpot, since all of the ICE family is descended from one person. This info can be found on the internet; Billy Lynn Cunningham (billcham@ovis.net) has compiled a VERY complete history of the Ice family going back to Fredericke IAAC, who came over on the boat. To get your bearings, George Ice (father of Harvey) is the grandson of Indian Billy Ice, who was the grandson of Fredericke.

NOTE:Fr cuz Coop-12-19-2002- Ice's Ferry, Monongalia County (Sp ?) is settled by Fredrick Ice

--son Adam born same year----Andrew Ice had first authorized ferry in WV 1785

Source:Richmond Va archives

<<Elizabeth m. 1st John LEE had 8 children, 2nd Jesse ICE and had 4 more.

3 of the ICE children married DAWSONs.>>>>

From: marquis_@bellsouth.net

To the honorable the Judge of the Nelson Circuit Court.

Four petitioners JOHN ICE and LOUISA his wife formerly THOMPSON ,

WILLIAM GOFF & MILDRED his wife formerly THOMPSON.

Court 1838 a Decree was pronounced, directing and ordering the

INDIAN BILLY-William Galloway ICE-The famous story (that you can find discussed endlessly on the Ice forum) is that Indian Billy and his sister were stolen by the Indians. Billy later escaped and ended up fathering a large number of children and living to over 100 years of age. Billy?s sister apparently did not escape the Indians and grew up in the tribe to marry the chief. Legend has it one of their children was the great warrior Tecumsah. [TECUMSEH]. He was a Shawnee Chief-the Shawnee were Forest Indians. He was a twin brother to Tenskwataw called the Prophet, they were around in late 1780-1815 and wanted all land of the Ohio River [Ky/Oh/In], but they failed and most were drive to OK reservation around 1839.

James Madison, His Legacy: Tecumseh
Tecumseh and his efforts to create a grand alliance of the Native American Nations. An American Hero: Tecumseh. Brief Biography. ... Description: Provides a brief biography of Tecumseh and accounts of his death. born 1768, 6 brothers, 1 sis, died Battle of Thames 1813-His twin brother called the Prophet

Fr Sheri-Our maiden name is Tosser. Most of Tosser line is from Edgar County, Illinois. Nancy Tosser Hall

I found out that a band of Indians were all up and down the Ohio in which there were Cherokee, Shawnee and Iriquous for sure...now I am wondering about Sioux...this really make me wonder...I looked up David Henry Tosser This is what I found..

ID: I18083 Name: David Henry TOSSER Sex: M
Marriage Sarah Catherine Riley Apr 21 1871 Edgar co Il b: 1853 in Edgar Co., IL

There are many rumors about Tecumseh and his birth. As a matter of fact, my own GG Grandmother was supposed to be Tecumseh's niece. I have found in my research that, after Tecumseh's death, there were many Native boys, in several tribes who carried that name. However, the dates are correct here. His Mother was actually supposed to have been Creek from southern Georgia. He was born near Xenia, in Ohio at a place now called Old Town. There are rumors about his being married several times, but so far as I have been able to find, there was only one confirmed marriage and one son. What usually comes of these cases where Tecumseh is involved is that you can assume the family was Shawnee and that they were Panther Clan. At this point, this is usually all that one can say. Now I heard but can't place where, that there were more than Shawnee in his campsite...I found these URL's...

http://www.scioto.org/Scioto/History/indian-attacks.html

http://www.gbl.indiana.edu/archives/miamis/M40-69_2.html

Fr drcountry@aol.com If she was Cherokee, part Cherokee or traveled with the Cherokee, then the family legend is built on verifiable facts. Tecumseh's mother was a Cherokee, taken in a raid by the Shawnee. Starting as a slave, she became a member of the tribe and married the Chief who was T's father. When older and her husband dead, she visited relatives in Missouri (I have the place noted somewhere.) on the Mississippi River. Later she went south to return home among the Cherokee where she later died. T. looked for his mother for months and stayed with the Cherokee for many months, fathering several children.

Jeanne Eppley has replied to your message on the Am Indian Genealogy Forum:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/ai/messages/14594.html

http://lowell.warren.k12.in.us/Archive%2000-01/4th/Niehaus/Tecumseh.htm

Tecumseh was born in ?1768 and died on October 11, 1813 in the war of 1812. Tecumseh was born at Mad River near present day Springfield. He was a Shawee chief. When Tecumseh died they found his body lifeless bullet in his heart and his skull was shattered by a gun butt. He has an unmarked grave. The location known only by his tribe. Tecumseh had one brother named Tenskwatawa. Tenskwatawa was known as an Indian Prophet. His mom and dad Died when he was very little by white men. After his parents died he was adopted by Chief Black Fish. He got involved with a white woman named Rebecca Galloway. Tecumseh’s name before he changed it was Tecumtha. His tribe, the Shawnee Move all over the world. He won almost all the wars he was in. Tecumseh was a master hunter. He was a highly skilled warrior. Oddly he got a fair education. Tecuseh’s mentor was Chief Black Fish. (step dad) by Cody

Resources: http://www.biography.com

2."Indiana Heritage on Tecumseh"

3. Tecumseh The War Chief by Jane Fleischer

1st. child of Savilla Dearay Ice & Harry Melvern Meadows (medis 2nd) Thelma Meadows buried in Pa.--Spouse JAMES GOODMAN--- Source,listed under Willam Joseph Ice Genealogy--grandparents were William Galloway (Indian Billy) Ice & Margaret Higginbothan

Ice family researcher with a FEW of the following surnames--Andrews, Baldwin, Bates, Bell, Cook, Ice, Jones, Osborn, Wilson. Wright---looks like a good address cuz, billie.pad@verizon.net

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Goodman & Ice ??
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Posted By: Sandra Moats Email: smoats@ruralnet.org Ice's Ferry WV April 06, 2000 at 16:52:44
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I was very interested in your message, since I'm directly descended from Andrew Ice who met George Washington and ferried him across the Cheat River. Andrew md Mary Bayles, said to be the mother of Tecumseh. Other sources say it was a half-sister of Andrew Ice's who was Tecumseh's mother. I knew Washington mentioned Andrew Ice in his diary. Washington was visiting the area to look into the feasibility of building a canal to link the headwaters of the Potomac with the headwaters of the Ohio, the Monongahela and Cheat, etc. Sandie (Boord) Henry sandie@nwol.net

More on Andrew--Coop
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Subject: Re: Ice's Farry, in West Virginia Oct 14, 2000
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A few weeks ago, while in southwest PA and researching family history, I found tons of documentation from both the Greene Co and Fayette Co genealogy societies relating to various branches of my family including the Bayles (three separate documents). I have heard the “Tecumseh” story all my life, but did not find anything written until now that would associate Tecumseh with Bayles family. My experience in genealogy makes me wary of “rumors” and “family stories” because I have found they can cause problems to say the least. BUT, since there is no official government documentation that I have found to date which provides Tecumseh’s actual date or place of birth, I feel the knowledge of generations before us must be given credence since we can’t “invent” the truth, my first discovery was in Greene County, PA.

An extensive list of “Desc of Jesse Bayles (d 1806)” fr Dorothy T Hennen states:

“1.2 Mary Bayles, 11-6-1763 to 6-17-1822 m1 an Indian – name unknown (2) 1782 Andrew Ice (of Frederick & Eleanor Leviston, widow Thompson)
1.2.1 Tecumseh 1779 to 10-5-1813 (War of 1812, British) Killed in action at the Battle of the Thames – Brig. Gen. - British Army)
1.2.2 Jesse Ice 5-19-1786 to 11-8-1866 (War of 1812)
1.2.3 Abraham Ice 2-18-1790 to 9-23-1861
1.2.4 Elizabeth Ice 10-1-1792 to 8-22-1870
Frederick ICE land owner-Ohio

http://userdb.rootsweb.com/landrecords/cgi-bin/landrecord.cgi?main_id=1238226&database=Land%20Records&return_to=http://userdb.rootsweb.com/landrecords/&submitter_id=

1.2.5 Frederick Ice 1-10-1796 to 5-6-1881
1.2.6 Mary Ice 9-19-1799 to10-20-1802
1.2.7 Andrew Ice 12-25-1803 to 7-3-1805
1.2.1 Tecumseh md ???
1.2.1.1 Naythawayne 1799 to ____ 1840 md Sacomse
1.2.1.1.1 Waylaskse (twin) ____ to 1869 md Gatakepiasika 1.2.1.1.2 Maythataskese (twin) ____ to 1827
1.2.1.1.3 Naswapama
1.2.1.1.4 Pasequameasy ____ to 1857
1.2.1.1.5 Walkoshaka (Jimfry) ____ to 1865
1.2.1.1.6 Wapameapto (Big Jim) 1834 to 9-30-1900

The list of Tecumseh’s descendants is too extensive to be placed here but is available to anyone who may want a copy. Perhaps some of Tecumseh's descendants can "enlighten" us. My second discovery was in Fayette Co PA. Dorothy Hammarlund (GGG granddaughter of David Bayles, Mary’s older brother), on family group sheet lists 2nd child of Jesse Bayles and Mary Marie Monraine as “Mary” b 6 Nov 1763” she notes “kidnapped by Indians at age 6, escaped age 16”; “one son, b of Indian, named Tecumseh”. To summarize, based on these and other “first hand” accounts as noted by Christopher Ice a few days ago, it is quite likely that Mary Bayles Ice is indeed the mother of Tecumseh.

Posted By: Rich Edgell redgell@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Ice's Ferry, in West Virginia July 5 2000
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My information says Tecumseh's mother was Mary Ice. She and her brother William Galloway "Indian Billy" Ice were taken by Indians at a young age. She never left them. He later returned to WV

Posted By: Robert M. Ice robice@svic.net Subject: Re: Ice's Ferry, in West Virginia Apr 6 2000 http://genforum.genealogy.com/ice/messages/533.html

Sandra, go to my web-site at http://www.svic.net/robice/

and then go to "Stories". From there select George Washington and you will get the translation and access to digital images of the original diary pages. If this doesn't work, e-mail me at robice@svic.net and I will e-mail the translated diary back to you.

1767-Ice's Ferry, Monongalia County, is settled by Frederick Ice. His son Adam, born the same year, was the first white child born in the Monongahela Valley.

Andrew Ice started the first authorized ferry in western Virginia in 1785.

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Posted By: Clyde Evans cevans5420@aol.com Ice Family Genealogy Forum March 6 1999

Posted By: Bridget Sanders Re: Ice Family Genealogy December 21, 2000 at 08:16:36
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Joyce- My records show: Andrew Ice, b. 10-16-1757, d. 3-15-1845, in 1783 m. Mary Bayles b. 11-6-1763. Andrew received official authorization by Act of 1785 to establish a ferry on the Cheat River (under Lake Cheat now near Morgantown). George Washington crossed 1n 1784 on the ferry coming from Beeson Town to Fort Peirpoint. He was checking the possibilities for a canal from the Potomac to the Monongahela and spoke to Andrew about it. Andrew advised against it.

I have a trancription of a Pension Bill of Andrew from Commissioner Winfield Scott, Bureaua of Pensions, U.S. Dept. of the Interior dated January 7, 1929 written to Clarence Smith of New Castle, In.

re. Claim S32336 finds Andrew was b 1757 Hampshire Co later Monongalia Co where he served as a private in Va Troops 1777 for 6 mths under Capt. Owen Day, Col Zachus Morgan, and Col John Evans, out against the Indians in NW. Also, 2 mths under Capt. Jacob Prickett at Scotts Mill and 2 mths under Capt. Warman at Harrison's Fort. The pension was allowed 11-13-1832 while he lived in Henry Co In. He died March 15, 1845 and the pension arrears paid to Jesse Ice. He is listed in lineage books by the SAR, # 42,692 and and DAR #s 60284 and 65,821. He is buried in the cemetery at Wolfsummitt, In. I would guess your George Washington Ice is not the son of Isaac and Elizabeth. There were as in many family's names used over and over and of course G. W. was a popular name. I have some Indiana Ice info from Jessica Wilson but I don't see your names G. W. or Birdie, Clyde

Andrew Ice & Mary Bayles children

-Jesse b. 1786 md 7-10-1824 Sarah Hickman b. 1801. Jesse and Sarah had 11 children. Children-I only have 3 listed, Mary Ann, b. 1824, d.1866; Andrew Jackson Sr., b. 1826, d.?, m. Elizabeth Heldreth; and Joshua Hickman Ice, b. 1827, d. abt 1900, m. Rebecca W. Hickman.- I have all of the information on This branch of the Ice family. all the way until 1974. The 11 kids of Jesse Ice and Sarah Hickman are as follows: Mary Ann Ice, Andrew Jackson Hickman Ice, Josinah Ice, Ezekiel Trammel Ice, Frederick Mortimer Ice, Abel William Ice, Rebecca Ice, Jesse Allen Ice, George M. Dallas Ice, Sarah Elsizabeth Ice. Josinah Ice was my grandmother's ggrandmother. Bridget
-Abraham b. 2-18-1790, d 9-20-1861 on 8-9-1827 m. Phoebe Ice (1st cousin, daughter of Adam) b. 12-18-1800, d. 11-9-1884. Abraham has several children, Serilda or Zerilla, born 2-8-1828, d. 1-17-1900; Elvira or Elvina who m. W. W. Hunt; David Marquis, Luther and Andrew Sephas b. 10-18-1836, d. 5-12-1911

-Elizabeth b. 1792 md Allen Hall (children Elmina and Izrl)

-Frederick b. 1796 md Malinda Fleming

-Mary b. 1799

-Andrew b. 1803

Fr: "Sheri Pherigo" <litefoot@iowatelecom.net>22 Dec 2002 -My one cousin I email is on the Indian Affairs board...He said the Original Clan that Peter is from is French...the rest of his clan went to Canada...I don't know for ure...he supose to let me know but we derive from DeGrass...if this is true...this is why we have Chief Charging Bear...The intermarriage into the Sioux (Blackfoot) just kept getting stronger as the children married squaws...I had this in the back of my mind. He also mention Peter's father chasing Tecumseh around and getting his butt whipped..hahahaha! I guess the expression "If ya can't lick them, join them" came to be then!LOL!

From: DRCOUNTRY@aol.com December 21, 2002 -One of the more accurate "Oral" accounts of Tecumseh's life is a book entitled, "A Sorrow in our Hearts" by Allan Eckert, Bantam Books, 1992. Also, the PBS series "500 Nations is good, and two other sources that I forget the reference for at the moment. In reviewing these sources of information about historic events and people, about whom there really are not consistently documented records, I usually use the rule of three. If three sources agree on facts, then, I assume the account may be correct. When I applied this standard to Eckert's book, I was impressed with the cross validation of information. Some accounts give Methotasa (Turtle laying her Eggs), mother of Techcumseh, a Creek or other tribal origin, but the vast majority give her a Cherokee origin. All the accounts tell that she was taken, as a young girl, by the Shawnee as a slave. All affirm that she was adopted into the tribe, and shortly thereafter became "A" (not the only) wife of the Chief Pucksinwah. There is another account which is Eckert's book, and which is cross referenced in others. **A White male child and his sister were stolen on a raid in either what is now Ohio or Kentucky (I think.)**, ***became indoctrinated into Shawnee traditions, and the boy became a great war chief. His name was Blue Jacket. What I like about Eckert's work is that over sixty pages are dedicated to end notes and references. This gives his work much credibility. Either of these accounts come close to matching the account that was presented in the previous email. The additional information contained above departs somewhat from the previous picture painted in the earlier email. I have other personal sources of information about Tecumseh, but none about CHIEF-Indian Billy ICE. I teach courses dealing with NA issues and history. Hope that this helps. In the general area of New Madrid, MO. There were Cherokee communities in the area long before the "trail of tears." Accounting to some accounts, Tecumseh observed and took as an omen, the flowing north of the Mississippi River following the earth quakes. Bill Archambeault

From: DRCOUNTRY@aol.com January 04, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Indian Billy

No, I never heard of this. Where is Luce Tnshp? I have not paid much attention to Indian history since I left in 1973. I did find it interesting how the eastern boundary of Indian was set after the battle of fallen timbers, I believe was the name of the battle. It is all in the Tecumseh book. Most of my research focused on the Archambeault Chippewa/Objibwa and Lakota sides of my family. I am an Objibwa Sun Dancer and have been trained in some of the Objibwa traditional ceremonies. The other part of it focused Lakota and Dakota. There are about 1200 Sioux Archambeaults in the Dakotas.Bill Archambeault

Cont children of Geo Statler/Eliz Cecelia Smeathers

3^rd child of George Statler & Eliz Cecelia Smeathers

2 Tulauah Elizabeth Statler B Abt 1814

+ Bazel Shrode Marr Sept 1 1836 Spencer co.,IN d 1884 in Spencer County.

Tulauah and Basil's children:
George Shrode
William Shrode
Pauline Shrode
Mary A. Shrode
Elizabeth Shrode
Joseph L. Shrode
Jacob Shrode
Joshua Shrode

NOTE:Marr rec Spencer Co In Marr 1818-1850 James Bryant-JP pg 18 Book1-

NOTE:Probably sons/of Bazel & Tulauah

Fr mstateler@aol.com I don't have an Amos Shrode, could have been a brother to Basil??
The name Elizabeth is carried through our family. There are a lot of Elizabeths, mostly middle names. There are also births late in their lifes. That has carried on to this day. My parents had 3 children, the last was born when my brother was 12 and I was 14. Every generation had done this including me.

1880 Census Household: Amos b 1837
Amos F. SHRODE Self M Male W 43 IN Farmer KY KY

Mary E. SHRODE Other M Female W 40 IN Keeping House VA ---

Artie M. SHRODE Other S Female W 17 IN At Home IN IN

Lawrence SHRODE Other S Male W 13 IN At Home IN IN

Richard E. SHRODE Nephew S Male W 19 IN Laborer IN IN

Source Information:census Place Ohio, Spencer, Indiana Family History Library Film 1254311

NA Film Number T9-0311 Page Number 106A

1880 Joseph b 1841
Joseph SHRODE Self M Male W 39 IN Farmer KY KY

Laura SHRODE Wife M Female W 23 IN Keeping House KY KY

Ella SHRODE Dau S Female W 12 IN KY KY

Cliffored SHRODE Son S Male W 10 IN KY KY

Alice SHRODE Dau S Female W 8 IN KY KY

Ora SHRODE Son S Male W 6 IN KY KY

Vienna SHRODE Dau S Female W 3M IN KY KY

Source Information:Census Place Springstation, Spencer, Indiana Family History Library Film 1254312

NA Film Number T9-0312 Page Number 190B

4^th child George Statler & Eliz Cecelia Smeathers

2 William 'Uncle Billy' Statler B Mar 1 1820 Spencer Co IN D Sept 26 1907 Spencer Co IN

+1)Mary Ann McCollum Jan 29 1843 Spencer Co IN b 1824

OH d May 1 1864 Spencer Co IN.

NOTE:When Wm's death Mrs Rebecca Johnson, Charles, Julia and James were his children by Mary Ann that are still alive. Marr in Index to Marr Spencer Co In 1818-1850 Book 1-3 RMWood-JP

letter from the The Society of Indiana Pioneers dated 22 July 1979 which concerns and inquiry of mine about records of Daniel Grass. Judy Byars jlpb@earthlink.net

Dec 13, 1885 letter to English from Rockport. Writer not identified, but on stationery of Law Office of Taylor and Hemenway, Boonville. 3p. Letter has changes, apparently made by English.

p.1, says Daniel Grass died in 1836. Father of 5 boys and 2 girls, all of whom lived to maturity. All now dead (1885). Has 8 grandchildren and one nephew, all adults, all married and all except one living in Spencer County. No names given.

Jan 7, 1886, card, H.G. Barkwell, Rockport. Nephew of Daniel Grass is William Stateler.

1850 Census Grass Twp Spencer Co In #440

-Wm Stateler 31 farmer In

Mary A 26 Oh

Rebecca A 2 In

Elizabeth 1 In.

1860 Census Oh Twp # 278

-Wm 40y farmer 4000/500 In

Mary Ann 36y Oh

Rebecca A 12y In

Elizabeth 11y In

Charles W 3y In

Julia 1y In

Susan 50y Ky.

1870 Census Spencer Co Oh Twp #613

Wm 50y farmer 7200/1200 In

Elmira 28y Ky

Rebecca 22y In

Charles 13y In

Julia 11y In

James 8y In

Alfred 4y In

Martha 2y In

Susan 60y Ky

Samuel Lashbrook 18y Ky.

STATLER CENSUS-1870 "The Cook's" <fcec@lvcm.com>
Indiana STATELER WM 50 M W IN IN SPENCER OHIO TWP 1870 son/o George
1880 Census

[he is saying Geo was b Pa & Elizabeth was b Tn]
William STATELER    Self M Male W 60 IN Farmer               PA TN
Elmira STATELER     Wife M F      W 38 KY Keeping House KY KY
Charles W STATELER Son Male     W 22 IN Farmer                 IN IN
Julia STATELER          Dau F           W 21 IN At Home              IN IN
James G. STATELER   Son Male     W 18 IN Works On Farm   IN IN
Minnie SCOTT           Other S F      W 11 IN House Keeper       IN IN
Rufus P. DAY             Other Male    W 26 IN Laborer                OH IN
Source Information:Census Place Ohio, Spencer, Indiana
Family History Library Film 1254311 NA Film Number T9-0311 Pg 109D

Children: 4 born, still living 1907

3 Rebecca Stateler b Jun 28 1847 In d Dec 21 1920

+ TP Johnson b Oct 11 1842 d Jul 4 1892

4 William Austin Johnson b Nov 29 1878 d Aug 27 1879 [1y]

3 Elizabeth Stateler b 1849 In

3 Charles Stateler b 1857 alive in 1907

3 Julia Stateler b 1859 In alive in 1907

3 James G Stateler b June 18 1861 still alive in 1907

+ Mattie P b Jul 23 1868 d Apr 21 1888

1910 Census Surname: STATLER Given Name: JAMES G
Age: 48 Sex: M Race: W Birth Place: IN
County: SPENCER Locale: OHIO TWP T624-Roll: 380 Part: 1 Page: 169

Bur Crossroads Hacklman Cemetery NOTE: List of Stateler's buried Hacklman Cem Spencer Co In, not far fr the Stateler Cem. STATELER JAMES S.? Father: STATELER WM Mother: McCOLLUM N.A. M W

25 APR 30 1886 F4223 [this must be Jas that marr Mattie's son Jas jr]

fr Spencer Co Newspaper Abstracts 1844-1925 Vol 1- Filed for old age pension Spencer Co Misc Rec Vol 2-Feb 14 1936

3 Alfred M Stateler B Jan 31 1866 D Feb 25 1874 [8y]

3 Martha 'Mattie' Stateler B Dec 20 1868 D Apr 6 1872 [4y]

Wm Stateler b 1820

+ 2) Elmira Lashbrook b 1842 M Mar 16 1865 D Aft 1907

NOTE: Index To Marr 1850-1920 Vol 4 S-Z Book 5 pg 139 for Wm Stateler/Lashbrook.

1870 Census Rockport, Spencer Cty, Ohio Twp, Indiana

William Stateler age 50, b Ind

Elvira, age 28, b Ky.

6 children

Susan Stateler, age 60, b Ky

Samuel Lashbrook, age 18, b Ky.

1880 Census Spencer Co In Oh Twp pg 203

Wm 60y farmer In-Pa-Tn

Elmira 38y Ky-Ky-Ky

Charles W 22y farmer In-In-In

Julia 21y In-In-In

James G 18y laborer In-In-In.

Wm Statler & 2^nd wife Elmira Lashbrook had children:

3 Roy Stateler

3 Wm Stateler Jr b 1837

NOTE:1860 Spencer co Census #311

-Wm Stateler 23y [b 1837] living with David/Mary Binggle

+ Margaret Tucker Jan 3 1861 Book 4 PG 393;

4 George W. Stateler b 1864 In

+ Christina Goodman.

George was the son of William Stateler Jr. & Margaret Tucker. Everybody was named George or William.

Spencer County, Indiana Delayed Birth Records
11- Cleveland H. STATELER b: 8 May 1897 in Spencer Co. IN. Child # 1. Residence: Hatfield, IN
father, George STATELER, born in IN mother, Christina GOODMAN, born in IN record # 0086
Indiana Goodmans Contributor: James Lynch woobie@peoplepc.com
http://www.bcpl.net/~dmg/indiana.htm?

4 Wm Stateler b Aug 11 1881

+ Ella May Campbell Feb 12 1913 Book 18 pg 248

4 Sariah L Stateler b d Feb 19 1888 [twins?]

4 M Stateler b d Mar 19 1888 [twin to above?]

FROM Clara M. Morrow Group 10 3527 Queen Ann Ct. Peoria, IL 61615

Sarah Jane Statler of Spencer County Indiana married William S. Thurman of Spencer County Indiana. His birth Oct 1, 1865 and his parents were Sephrona Tucker and Richard Wm. Thurman. I need any thing on these people.

ED. NOTE; I have the 1880 soundex records for Indiana showing Sarah J. Stateler in the household of Margaret Stateler.

Stateler, Margaret	age	43	born Indiana
" George	son	16	"
Charles	"	14	"
Melvina	dau.	11	"
Sarah J.	N.R.	9	"
Carter, Rosella	N.R.	8	"

The N.R. mean the relationship was not reported, it does not mean the Sarah was not the daughter of Margaret. If you looked at the 1870 census for Spencer County you might find the husband of Margaret, and he would probably be one of the boys listed in the home of Jacob Statelor in the 1850 census of Spencer County.

NOTE: Stateler's buried Hacklman Cem Spencer Co In, not far fr the Stateler Cem.

STATELER M. Father: STATELER WM Mother: TUCKER

M. W 19 MAR 12 1888 F4223

STATELER SARIAH L. Father: STATELER W. Mother:LUCKER M. F W 19 FEB 23 1888 F4223

4 Charles H. Stateler, b 1862

+ Francis Trissler Oct 25 1884 Spencer co In d 4-1886

1910 Census Surname: STATELER b 1860 Given Name: CHAS H Age: 50

Sex: M Race: W Birth Place: IL [prob should be IN] County: SPENCER

Locale: 1-WD ROCKPORT T624-Roll: 380 Part: 1 Page: 200

NOTE: son of Wm Stateler jr

NOTE: Fr: Tina WGilb10676@aol.com -Supplemental Rec of marriages Spencer Co Rockport Courthouse found Frances m Charles Stateler 1884. which Wm Stateler is father of CHARLES? Did Wm first marry Margaret Tucker?"Bride-FRANCIS TRISSLER b In 23 next birthday, white, father-DAVID TRISSLER (my g-gfather),mother-Mary Sutton. Date Oct 25 1884 Lake Spencer Co IN. By: Rev E Dodd. Lic#181 (could not find) M CHARLES STATELER, 22yrs next bday, White, of Spencer Co farmer, born In. Father-Wm Stateler, Mother-Margaret Tucker (first marriage?). Are there children fr Francis Trissler/Charles Stateler? I have been unable to find that info, since not a family on the 1880 census and she d bef 1890 census

NOTE: STATELER CHAS M W died CT 25 1884 F4223

Father: STATELER WM Mother:TUCKER MARGARET

TRISSLER FRANCES Father:TRISSLER DAVID

Mother:SUTTON MARY F W 23 OCT 25 1884 F4223

I DID NOT FIND MY CHARLES WESLEY STATELER IN THE HACKLEMAN CEMETERY, NOR HIS WIFE FRANCIS OR THEIR BABY THAT WAS BORN IN 1885. BUT I DID FIND AN ARTICLE FROM THE NEWSPAPER TELLING OF HIS DEATH AND THAT HE WAS BURIED IN HACKLEMAN CEMETERY. I GUESS WHEN YOUR ONLY SURVIVORS ARE NEPHEWS, ETC, THEY DON'T PUT UP STONES. BUT I COULD NOT IMAGINE NO STONE FOR HER! WE WENT BACK OUT TO THE STATELER CEMETERY TO SEE 8F IT HAD BEEN CLEANED, IT HAD NOT, SO I AM SENDING YOU A PICTURE OF HOW IT LOOKED. HEY, DID I SEND YOU PICTURES OF JACOB, ELIZABETH AND MARY THAT WE TOOK IN 2000? I HAVE A COPY FOR YOU IF YOU DO NOT ALREADY HAVE THEM. LET ME KNOW.
I FOUND HIM IN THE 1900 CENSUS, LIVING WITH HIS PARENTS. THEN FOUND HIM IN THE 1930 CENSUS LIVING AS HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD WITH JAMES G, BROTHER AND JULIA, HALF SISTER.
THERE IS A STATELER FAMILY FILE THERE IN THE ROCKPORT LIBRARY. I FOUND AN ERROR SOMEONE HAD SUBMITTED. IT SAID CHARLES HAD MARRIED A BRESSLER. I LEFT A STICK-ON NOTE WITH THE CORRECTION. I ALSO LEFT ALL THE INFO I HAVE ON CHARLES AND FRANCIS. MAYBE IT WILL LEAD TO SOMETHING ELSE. THAT'S IT, TINA

NOTE:This church is where the Hacklman Cem was. Ground was purchased for the Cross Roads Methodist church on Nov. 1858 frm Charles and Isabel McInture for the sum of ten dollars--The first trustees were Uriah McCoy, Alexander Fergunson, Samuel P.Wilkenson and John Day--Charter memebers were Uraih McCoy, William Stateler,James Stateler Sr, John Quincey Harvey, Nathan Parr, Samuel P Wilkinson,and probally George Ice, Jackson Parr, and Downey Winkler--the first minister was Ransford Spencer From records of Grass Township Coop

NOTE FR: Tina on Stateler/Trissler-4/2002-Charles and Francis not on cem listing. I just knew they were! Must be a cem near Lake where they are buried. Francis burned to death. Caught fire from her stove/could not get her clothes off in time to save her life. She had only been m about 1 1/2 years. The date on the newspaper is Sat Apr 17 1886. Reads "Mrs Stateler, the lady who was so badly burned last week, is dead. She only survived one day after the accident". Printed in The Indiana Pocket. They had md Oct 1884. Tragic!!! They could have had one child! About the Graff Cemetery! I have snapshots I took there, not much, but one of them reads: CLARA wife of Michael Wilhelmus, daughter of J and M GRAFF B May 27 1842 D Feb 17 1877-34yrs 9mo 20dys (more small script below but I didn't write it down and can't read it from my picture). The bro of my David, Peter Trisler had dau Desdimonia m John Michael Wilhelmus, Apr 1 1850 Warrick Co. Couple of Wilhelmus children are buried there, one is hers the other his by his first wife. (could be 2nd, Desdimonia was his 3rd. I just thought this was quite a coincidence, since you mentioned the Graff name. Dr Peter Trisler - the immigrant b Wittenburg Germany arr USA Apr 1780 settled Md along with a whole "passel" of Germans. Son Henry was among 'em. They all went to KY 1891. Son DAVID TRISLER, my g-grandfather b Jessamine Co KY.

Fr Tina- July 2003-VERY OLD HISTORY OF MY TRISLER FAMILY. MY IMMIGRANT, DR. PETER TRISLER'S DAU ELIZABETH, MARRIED ABRAHAM HOUSER, A PREACHER. HE HAD A MILL, NO DOUBT MUCH LIKE THE ONE IN THE PICTURE. WE HAVE VISITED THE AREA WHERE IT WAS LOCATED IN JESSAMINE COUNTY KY. NO DATE WHEN IT WAS BUILT, BUT THEY MARRIED IN 1797. IT IS TOLD THAT HE MADE AND SOLD WHISKEY AT HIS MILL TO SUPPORT HIS CHURCH, NEVER KEEPING ANY OF THE FUNDS FOR HIS OWN USE.

Fr: WGilb10676@aol.com May 8 2002-Hi, Cuz, got one story/court case involving my g-gfather David and his 4 brothers who broke into a home and tore up the bedclothes, cupboards, beat the old man and old lady, took their stud horse and put him to a mare, and in general tore the place up. They were getting even with these people for suing their grandfather previously. This all happened in Jessamine County KY in 1832. They were found guilty and all but David were fined one cent, David was fined five dollars. He must have been a rounder! I finally had a letter from Marva and was so thrilled. She said she was quite sure there were children of Charles and Francis and she would get her "arthritic body" around and search her files. I am eagerly looking forward to hearing from her again. If there are any of that family left down there, I am going down there and find them! She was married in 1884, so she could have grandchildren there somewhere. OH, dear, I mustn't get too carried away! Your Cuz, Tina

Son GEORGE W TRISLER, my g-father was b Jessamine Co KY. Son GEORGE W TRISLER, my father b Spencer Co IN.

David m1) Lydia Hoover Rhorer, widow with 3 children Jessamine Co KY. They were together 1843 Spencer Co where they sold land, that was the last I found about her.

David m2) Nancy Abshear Warrick Co IN 1847 div HER Mar 1851.

m3) Mary Jane Sutton Apr 1851. David d Dec 1858 Spencer Co IN. 1860 Spencer Cty IN census that there was a Joseph Carter HOH and Mary Jane sp., the family showed the Carter kids and 2 TRISLER KIDS. That is when I KNEW they had belonged to my DAVID. My gfather entered on his app for CW Pen he lived with his Father David and Stepmother Mary Jane 1850 Spencer Co. 2 TRISLER KIDS were Francis (census showed a male) age 4 and Thomas J, age 2. I found on the Spencer Co pg of marriages Francis Trissler, father David Trissler and mother, Mary Jane Sutton, Oct 25 1884. I have a notebook full of PA Trislers, and will soon try to locate an Ann Showalter that m a Trisler. But those are not MY direct Trisler's so I did not spend too much time there. Wm m Elmira Lashbrook Mar 1865. They had one son, Roy Stateler. Charles b 1862, so his mother was Mary McCollum. That is, if I have the right family. Tina"

Rest of Children of George Statler/Elizabeth Cecelia Smeathers

5^th child George Statler & Eliz Cecelia Smeathers

2 Mary Jane Stateler B Apr 6 1826 D Mar 13 1859

+ James Hardesty marr 1870

6^th & last child George Statler & Eliz Cecelia Smeathers

2 Mary Elizabeth Stateler B Abt 1834

+ Andrew Currey marr 1871

NOTE: Stateler's buried Hacklman Cem Spencer Co In, not far fr the Stateler Cem.

STATELELR SARAH Father: STATELELR V. T.

Mother: CLEVINGER F W 35 JUN 8 1886 F4223

NOTE: Statler Cemetery Lists following:

Statler, Jacob 24 Dec 1811 22 Mar 1885 s/o G&E

Statler, Elizabeth 1 Jun 1781 17 Dec 1859 w/o Geo

Statler, George 15 Feb 1766 19 Sep 1836 h/o Eliz

footstone: SS

Statler, Infant 30 Jul 1846 22 Sep 1846 d/o J&K;fs

Statler, Joseph 9 Mar 1841 8 Feb 1862 s/o J&K

Moor, Robert F. 3 Jun 1851 31 Jul 1854 s/o M&A

Statler, Mary Jane 6 Apr 1826 13 Mar 1859 d/o G&E

Johnson, Rebecca A [Statler] 28 Jun 1847 21 Dec 1920 w/o TP

Johnson, T.P. 11 Oct 1842 4 Jul 1892 CoD3USInf;fs

Johnson, William Austin 29 Nov 1878 27 Aug 1879 s/o TP&RA;fs

Statler, Mattie 20 Dec 1868 6 Apr 1872 d/o W&E [md to James]

Statler, Alfred M. 31 Jan 1866 25 Feb 1874 s/o W&E

Statler, Mary Ann [McCollum] 1824 1 May 1864 w/o Wm

Statler, William 3 Mar 1820 19 Sep 1907 h/o MA,E

NOTE: Parents of Rebecca B 1847 Wm & MA -wife of TP Johnson

FS means Foot Stone

Robert Moor was a black child of black servants per Sam Stateler.

STATLER DATA

1787-Land records Monongalia Co WV-Statler, George - 180 acres, Dunkard's Creek Book 3, Page 315, year 1787

1790 US Census Records-George Statler

State: PA Year: 1790

County: Northhampton Township: Bethlehem

1793 Monongalia Co WV shows Geo Statler resident. Dunkard Creek property levied taxes by John Troy, constable, for failure to appear as wittness in Geo Snider's magistrate court.

1796-Delinquent tax lists, MCR env 44. Monongalia Land Books carry George Statler as a property owner from 1796-1810, inclusive. However, cf Monongalia Surveys, 7:120, a 1785 survey for George Statler, heir of Stephen, 180ac Dunkard Creek, with Monongalia Deeds OS 3:4, Adam and Christina Shriver to Abraham Shriver, 10 March 1803. One call is missed, and there is a discrepancy in one line (215 poles with the meanders of Dunkard Creek in the survey, 311 poles with the meanders in the deed), but land conveyed by Shrivers appears be same tract formerly owned by George Statler. There is no conveyance by Statler, and none to Shriver, nor is there survey for Shriver deed gives no provenance of title or tract hist. Wit to Shriver deed were Adam Brown son-in-law of John Statler and John Stateler probably son of Jacob. (17) Daviess Co., KY, Deeds A: 50-51, cited in Michael L. Cole, "Daviess County Kentucky Abstract of Deed Book A," KY GENEALOGIST, 19, (1977) 112-113

1797 same Co again Geo sued and lost. Mention of a wife & child.

1798 WV Delinquent land tax list shows Geo Statler residence as unk.

1796-1810 Geo Statler listed as property owner in Monogalia Land Book

"GEORGE STATLER, son of Stephen. Under terms of his father's will, George inherited land on Dunkard Creek. He was resident of Monongalia 1793, when his property was levied by John Troy, constable, for failure to appear as witness in George Snider's magistrate court, 1796 when he sued and lost, regarding this attachment.1798 delinquent land tax list shows his residence Unkn and appears he did not return to Monongalia

1800 KY Ohio Co George Statler Tax List owns 1 horse no land

1803 Mar 10 Deed to Adam & Christina Shriver to Abraham Shriver regarding Geo Statler Dunkard Creek property-no title or tract history

1807-Ky Ohio Co Geo Statler Tax List owns 1 horse

1808 Aug 8 STATLER GEORGE m Elizabeth Smeathers minister Tho Taylor Bondsman Wm Smeathers (WV area was Augusta Co Va then Ohio Co Va, then Monongalia Co). Went to Daviess Co until 1818.

1809-George Statler give deposition in Ohio Co., Ky.others include:

Daniel Grass, Sam Snyder, Gabriel Jones, Henry Jones, John Leman,

Charles Duncan, Phillip Taylor, William Bailey Smith, Elisha Adams,

Thompson Mason Jones, William P. Hudson, Daniel Vittitoe and Matthew

Rogers. [all known to keep company with the Smeathers clan].

"the deposition of George Stateler taken at the same time and place

and to be real as evidence in same suit. How long have you been

acquainted with Matthew Roger and what is his character for honesty

and truth? " I have been acquainted with him upwards of 20yrs and I think his character for Honesty and truth as good as any mans-in our county-George Statelar Justice of Peace-ANTHONY THOMPSON ASSIST: BENJAMIN DUNCAN THOMAS GRIFFITH

1809 Ohio Co KY Tax List Geo owns 1 horse

1810 STATLER GEORGE Ohio County KY pg 91 10121-0001000

1 male 26-45 George

1 f 16-26

2 f 26-45

1 f 45+ Elizabeth Cecelia

1810 Ohio County Census list a female child 0-6 - I have no record of this female. [now we know is was another daughter].

1811 Tax List for Land/Horses-Geo Statler 3 horses no land

1812 " 1ac Henderson Tnsp-Under Henderson & Co 3 horses

1813 " 1ac Henderson-Ohio Waterway 4 horses

1814-" " " "

1815-Daviess Co-same as above though

1816-Geo Statler given power of attorney by Uncle John Stateler of Ohio Co regarding real estate on Potomac River inherited under Father's will

Living in Daviess Co KY, as of c1816 when he gave power of attorney to his nephew George Statelor, of Ohio, regarding real estate on Potomac River inherited under his father's will [sic; no Potomac real estate mentioned in the will] by Rick Toothman Statler Researcher.

1816-" 7 horses

1817-" 8 horses

1818-" 9 horses

1819-no Statler-went to Spencer co

1820 Spencer Co In Census

3 m up to 10 Jacob, Wm, Joseph

1 m 45+ George

1 f up to 10 Susanna

1 f 26-45 Elizabeth Cecelia

1820 Census Elizabeth Smeathers Statelor born 1775-1794
1820, 1830 & 1840 Census for Perry, Spencer and Warrick Counties 1830 Spencer Co., IN Pg 37 George Stateler [hus of Elizabeth Smeathers]

First Name 1820 census George Stateles 3 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0
2 males 10-15 William b 1820;
1 male 20-30 Jacob b 1811

1 male 60-70 George
1 female 40-50 Elizabeth Smeathers Statler
1 female 5-10 Mary Jane b 1826
1 female 15-20

Tulauah Eliz b 1814 Tulauah Eliz m Bazel Shrodes 1836
1 female 20-30 Susanna H b 1810

1830 Spencer Co In Census-Geo Stateler

2 m 10-15 Jacob, Joseph

1 m 20-30 William

1 m 60-70 George

1 f 5-10 Mary Elizabeth

1 f 15-20 Mary Jane

1 f 20-30 Tulauah Elizabeth

1 f 40-50 Elizabeth Cecelia

The 1830 census list 2 males age 10-15 and 1 male age 20-30

I have no record of this male and 3 female excluding Elizabeth.

[now we know Eliz and Geo had 6 children].
1830 Census Elizabeth Smeathers Statelor born 1780-1790

1840 Spencer Co In Census-Eliz Statlor

1 f 15-20 Mary Elizabeth

1 f 20-30 Mary Jane

1 f 50-60 Elizabeth Cecelia

2 m 20-30 William, Jacob

1840 Census Elizabeth Smeathers Statelor born 1780-1790

1840 Spencer Co., IN Pg 86 Elizabeth Statelor [wife of George]
2 males 20-30

William b 1820; Wm m Mary Ann McCollum 1842

2m)Elmira Lashbrook 1865

Jacob b 1811 Jacob m Casiah Lowell 1833 2m) Sara Harris 1875
1 female 15-20 Mary Jane b 1820
1 female 20-30 Susanna b 1810
1 female 50-60 Elizabeth Smeathers Statler

1850 Spencer Co In Census #0867 Ohio Twp Pg 104-Statelor

Mary J. 24 F In [dau b 1826]m James Hardesty

Mary E. 16 F In [dau b 1834]m Andrew Currey

Elizabeth 69 F Va

Susanna 40 F Ky [dau b 1810]m Henry Stevens

1850 Census Elizabeth Smeathers Statelor listed as 69 born 1780-1781

1850 Spencer County Indiana
867 62B STATELOR ELIZABETH 69 F 600 VA b 1779
867 62B STATELOR SUSANNA    40 F        KY oldest dau
867 62B STATELOR MARY J.       24 F         IN   dau
867 62B STATELOR MARY E.   16 F IN   dau
1850 Spencer Co., IN #0867 Ohio Twp. Pg 104 Statelor:
Mary J. 24 F IN b 1826

Mary Jane m James Hardesty 1870
Mary E. 16 F IN b 1834

Mary Eliz m Andrew Currey 1871
Elizabeth 69 F VA b 1781
Susanna 40 F KY b 1810 Susanna H m Henry Stevens 1831 [think he died early so she living w/mom]

~~~~~ LOOSE ENDS~~~~~~~~

Cleveland Ohio Necrology File-Obits

http://www.cpl.org/LinksLibrary.asp?FormMode=DBSubCategory&ID=178&CatID=3

Id#: 0344139 Name: Statler, Ludwig Date: April 22, 1884 [b 1828]

Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #077.

Notes: Statler-Ludwig Statler, Sunday morning, April 20, at 11 a. m., aged 56 years, result of Accident. Funeral at his late residence, Parma, O., Tues April 22, at 1 o'clock, and at the church in Brighton at 2 o'clock. All friends of the family invited to attend.

1870 Illinois
STATELER DAVID 32 M W VA IL WOODFORD CLAYTON TWP

14 Jun 1870 Clayton Twp., Woodford Co., Ill. M593_295 pg. 256 HH #3

Stateler, David 32 mw farmer Virginia , b 1838

Sarah 26 Va. ,

Henry 7 Ill. ,

Arthur 4 Ill.

The David below in Woodford County is a Statler part of Group 8 of Botetourt County Va,and moved by 1880 to Kansas. Sandra

1870 M593_314 pg. 187 Covington, Fountain Co., Indiana Household #184
Albright, Mike 55 mw laborer Wirtenberg
, Margaret B. 57 Wirtenberg
, Mary 17 Indiana
Stateler, Carrie 5 Illinois

1870 Indiana STATELER CARRIE 5 F W IL IN FOUNTAIN COVINGTON

http://www.wvculture.org/history/journal_wvh/wvh1-2-4.html

1870 Missouri STATELER ROSENA 17 F W SWIT MO WORTH SMITH TWP

1870 Spencer Ohio Twp pg 199-John Statler 43y St Meinrad Abby; b 1827

December 1, 1870

At Wenona, Nov. 17, by Rev. Homer McVeay, Marshall Stateler and Miss Mary Brown, all of W.

1880 NoHalf Luce Twp pg323 Margaret Stateler 43y In-In-In; George W 16y In-In-In; Charles H 14y In-In-In Melvina 11y In-In-In Sara J 9y In-In-In

1910 Census Surname: STATELER b 1889

Surname: STATLER Given Name: JESSEE Age: 21 Sex: M Race: W Birth Place: IN County: SPENCER Locale: OHIO TWP T624-Roll: 380 Part: 1 Page: 169

1920 Census
Stateler, John Age: 66 Birthplace: USA T625_1383
Race: White Ohio ED: 186 Co: Franklin Township: Columbus

Stateler, John W Age: 56 Birthplace: Missouri T625_1458
Race: White Page: State: Ok Co: Craig Township: Township 8

Stateler, John Age: 48 Birthplace: Illinois T625_1488
Race: White State: Ok Co: Texas Township: Goodwell

1808-Chesterton Tribune [b 1808] Mary D. Stateler dies at 94 Obituaries

Mary D. Stateler, of Winfield, Ill., formerly of Chesterton, died Thursday, November 15, 2001 at Central DuPage Hospital in Winfield. She was 94. She was born May 25, 1907 in St. Louis, Missouri. She is survived by a daughter, Judy (Tim) STATELER Newitt, of Winfield, Ill.; a step-daughter, Georgia Bledsoe, of Bloomington, Ind.; grandsons, Brock and Benjamin Newitt, a sister, Edith Kettell, of Carol Stream, Ill., formerly of Winona Lake, Ind. She was preceded in death by her husband, **BERT STATELER and a sister, Mae Fitzgerald. She graduated from Moody Bible Institute in Chicago, as well as John Brown University in Siloam Springs, Ark. She earned a Masters of Education from the University of Michigan. She was a public school teacher in Arkansas, Michigan, and retired in Chesterton. She was an active volunteer with a number of ministries, especially Wycliffe Bible Translators and Jungle Aviation Radio Services. She was honored by Elaine Townsend, widow of Cameron Townsend, founder of Wycliffe Bible Translators, at the age of 89 as the longest serving volunteer of the organization. She was a member of Liberty Bible Church in Chesterton for many years. Funeral services are scheduled at 11 a.m. Monday at White Love Funeral Home. A meal will follow at Liberty Bible Church, 824 N. Calumet Ave., Chesterton. A Graveside Service will be at 3 p.m., at Oak Hill Cemetery, Gary. The family will receive friends from 4-8 p.m., Sunday at White Love Funeral Home, 535 S. Second St., Chesterton. Memorials may be sent to Wycliffe Bible Translators, P.O. Box 628200, Orlando, FL. Gary

1811-[Transcriber's Note: Anita Schultz-Peters, a descendant of William Stutler, writes that William Stutler and Patsy Ann Upton were md 10 Jan 1811 in Monogalia Co but Patsy was the daughter of Samuel Upton and Mary Ann Lanham. James was her brother.]

10 Jan 1811 Stutler, William and Upton, Patsy daughter of James Upton.

32862-8200. Posted 11/16/2001

The Stutler families are most always part of Group 16 as is the William above: Sandra

1897-George Stateler m Christina Goodman 1897 - who is this guy? [Jones lines]

He prob belongs to Michael Bold Stateler

http://www.bcpl.net/~dmg/indiana.htm