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The 3rd Generation of Mabie/Mabee/Maybee/Mabey in North America

Generation #3: The Grandchildren of Pieter Casparszen van Naerden and Aechtje Jans.

Prepared by Steve Mabie
Last Revised: 02/24/2014
COPYRIGHT ©2014 Stephen W. Mabie. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

Below is a chronological listing of all of the 2nd Generation's marriages and the baptism records for the grandchildren of Pieter Casparszen van Naerden. Note that there are no children of daughters Marritien (1) or Tryntie (6) included in this file (see bottom of file for explanations).

9/12/1675
Marriage: (01) Jan Janszen Moll, j. m. Van Amsterd., en Engeltje Pieters (3), j. d. Van N. Yorke, beyde woonende tot N. Yorke. 20 Nov. in de Esopus.

NOTE: Ship passenger lists show that Jan Janszen Mol came to New York on board the ship De Bonte Koe (the Spotted Cow) in April 1660.

5/23/1677
Baptism: (01) Pieter (3-1), parents: Jan Janszen Mol and Engeltie Pieters;
witnesses: Otto Gerritszen, Aecht Jans

8/25/1678
Baptism: (01) Annetie (3-2), parents: Jan Pieterszen and Engeltie Pieterszen;
witnesses: Jacob Abrahamszen, Adriaentie Pieters

9/29/1680
Baptism: (01) Maria (3-3), parents: Jan Janszen Mol and Engeltie Pieters;
witnesses: Lucas Tienhoven, Tryntie Pieters

11/17/1680
Marriage: (01) Jan Pieterszen, j.m. Van Rochel in Vrackryck, en Metje Meeby (4), j.d. Van N. Yorke, beyde woonende tot N. Yorke. (married on De. 15, 1680)

NOTE: In most transcriptions of these church records, Meeby is mis-transcribed as Weely.

9/3/1681
Baptism: (01) Margariet (4-1), parents: Jan Peroy and Metje Jans;
witness: Aecht Jans

2/18/1682
Baptism: (01) Abraham (3-4), parents: Jan Janszen Mol and Engeltie Pieters;
witnesses: Hendrick Jilliszen, Tryntie Pieters

8/22/1683
Baptism: (01) Anna Catharyn (4-2), parents: Jan Peru and Metie Pieters;
witnesses: Hendrick Jansz. Van Veerde, Tryntie Pieters

1/30/1684
Baptism: (01) Jacobus (3-5), parents: Jan Janszen Mol and Engeltie Pieters;
witnesses: Hendrick Kermer, Lucas Tienhoven, Tryntie Pieters

1/20/1686
Baptism: (10) Pieter (2-3), parents: Jan Pietersz., no mother listed;
witnesses: Abraham van Trigt, Lysbeth Van Trigt.

NOTE: The surviving Albany RDC records start in August 1683. It is clear from later marriage records that, prior to Pieter (2-3) (probably before August 1683), Jan and his wife Anna Borsboom had two daughters, Eva (2-1) and Margrietje (2-2)

4/21/1686
Baptism: (01) Aefje (3-6), parents: Jan Janszen Moll and Engeltje Pieters;
witnesses: Jacob Boelen, Jan Pieterszen, Tryntie Pieters

NOTE: Died young. See Aefje (3-8) below.

11/18/1687
Marriage: (01) Caspar Pieterszen Neby (5), j. m. Van N. Yorck, Lysbeth Schuermans, j. d. Van Santfort, beyde wonende alhier. 14 dict.

NOTE: Actual marriage on 12/14/1687

4/8/1688
Baptism: (01) Johannes (3-7), parents: Jan Mol and Engeltie Pieters;
witnesses: Assuerus Hendrickszen, Jan Pieterszen, Marritje Pieters

2/24/1689
Baptism: (01) Pieter (4-3), parents: John Piroo and Metje Pieters;
witnesses: Caspar Pieterszen, Aechtie Jans

NOTE: Died young. See Pierre (4-5) below.

12/26/1689
Baptism: (01) Pieter (5-1), parents: Caspar Pietersz. Mevi and Lysbeth Schuermans;
witnesses: Jeremias Hagenaer, Aecht Jans

8/10/1690
Baptism: (01) Maria (4-4), parents: Jan Piroo and Metje Meby;
witnesses: Hendrick Jacobszen, Lysbeth Forman

NOTE: Died young. See Maria (4-7) below.

9/8/1690
Baptism: (01) Aefje (3-8), parents: Jan Janszen Moll and Engeltje Abrahams;
witnesses: Wilhelm Abrahamszen, Lysbeth Schuurman

5/1/1692
Baptism: (01) Isaacq (3-9), parents: Jan Janszen Mol and Engeltie Pieters;
witness: Annetie Thomas

6/30/1692
Baptism: (01) Christyntie (5-2), parents: Fredrick Symonszen and Lysbeth Meby;
witness: Fredrick Suurmont

NOTE: The only Lysbeth Meby known to be in New Amsterdam at this time was Casparís wife. It is unknown why the name Fredrick Symonszen appears as the father in this record, but Christyntieís birth in this time frame is confirmed by her marriage in 1712. Also, the only Frederick Symonszen to appear in the church records was married to Lea Fonteyn.

8/24/1692
Baptism: (03) Pierre (4-5), parents: Jean Pierro and Meta Meby;
witnesses: Francois Vincent, Elizabeth Gautier

4/16/1693
Baptism: (10) Annetje (2-6), parents: Jan Pieterse Mebi and Antje P. Bosboom;
witnesses: Jan Hendriksz. Vrooman, Cornelia Pietersz. Van Olinda.

NOTE: Between Pieter (2-3) and Annetje (2-6), Jan and Anna had two other children whose baptisms have not survived: Jacob (2-4) and Tryntje (2-5). An examination of the original records of the Schenectady Reformed Church confirms that, in Pearsonís "First Settlerís of Schenectady", Jacobís birth and baptismal dates are not correctly identified. Since virtually all previous genealogies have relied on Pearsonís data for Jacob, they are incorrect.

12/29/1693
Baptism: (03) Jacob (4-6), parents: Jean Pierret and Marthe Mebe;
witnesses: Daniel Poutreau, Ann Guarre.

6/26/1695
Baptism: (11) Abraham (2-7), parents: Jan Pietersz Mabi and Annetje Bosboom;
witnesses: Gerrit Simonz and Antje Sanders.

9/1/1695
Baptism: (01) Fredricx (5-3), parents: Caspar Mebie and Elisabeth Shuermans
witnesses: Jeremias Westerhout, Rachel Shuermans

11/10/1697
Baptism: (11) Engeltje (2-8), parents: Jan Mabi and Annetje Borsboom;
witnesses: Jacobus Peek and Jannetje Reyerz.

2/2/1698
Baptism: (03) Marie (4-7), parents: Jean Pierro and Marthe Maybe;
witnesses: Timothee Archambaud, Madam Jeanne Archambaud

NOTE: The year was 1697/98 under the old British Calendar

6/25/1699
Baptism: (01) Jeremias (5-6) , parents: Casper Mebie and Elisabeth Scheurmans;
witnesses: Jeremias Westerhout & wife Catharina

5/5/1700
Baptism: (11) Maria (2-9), parents: Jan Mabi and Anna Borsboom;
witnesses Jacobus van Dyck and Sara Peek.

8/1/1703
Baptism: (71) Catherine (5-8), parents: Gaspar Mebe and Elizabeth Mebe;
witnesses: Gaspar Mebe, the father, and Marie Simon; DOB: 6/14/1703

NOTE: This baptism record was published in the New York Historical Society Quarterly Bulletin, Vol. 1 (1917)

10/7/1704
Baptism: (11) Metje (2-10), parents: Jan Meby and Antye Boosboom;
witness Lysebit Tonissen

10/10/1704
Marriage: (01) Myndersz Steen and Engeltje Mol(3)

NOTE: This was the second marriage for Engeltje.

11/18/1705
Baptism: (01) Abraham (5-9) , parents: Casparia Maebie and Elizabeth Schuermans;
witnesses: Kristoffel Kristiaanse, Meindert Steen, Maritje Mol

1708
The will of "John Peroa", the husband of Metje (4), dated 12/7/1708, mentions wife Martha, sons Peter and Jacob and daughters Anna Katharine, Margaret and Mary. Proved August 15, 1709.

5/9/1708
Baptism: (91) Johannes (5-10) , parents: Casper Meeby and Elisabeth Schuermann;
witnesses: Johannes Van Inburgh and Catrina, his wife

1715

The will of Sophia Romeyn (sister of Christian, the wife of Frederick Schuurman, Lysbeth's parents), written in 1715, specifically mentions four daughters of Caspar Mebie and Lysbeth Schuerman. In addition to Christyntie and Catherine above, there was also Affie and,Sophia (Feytie). I have not been able to find their baptisms at this time. Since Affie married in 1717 and Sophia married in 1719, it is guessed that Affie was born circa 1697, and Sophia circa 1698. Therefore, I have assigned (somewhat arbitrarily) Affie (5-4) and Sophia (5-5).

Caspar also had a son, Simon, born circa 1701, but no record of his baptism has survived. His relationship to the family of Caspar is made clear by the witnesses of the baptisms from the French Church of New Rochelle. Thus Simon is (5-7).

1719
The will of "Martha Puiroe" (4), dated 6/15/1719 and probated on 8/3/1719, mentions her deceased husband John, her children Margaret Hall, Mary Leonard, Peter Puiroe, and Anna Catherine Kearney as well as grandchildren Jacob Leonard and John Kearney.

1725
The will of Jan Pieterse Mebie (2), dated 4/1725 and proved 8/1725, states that he had 10 children: three sons (Pieter (2-3), the eldest, Jacob (2-4), and Abraham (2-7), the youngest) and 7 daughters, of whom only Margaret (2-2) is named.

Notes on Marritien (Maria) Pieterse (1):
The "standard" genealogy for the Mabie family has Marritien married to Jan Pieterszen Bant or Bandt (sometimes mis-written as Brandt) in 1671 at the New York Reformed Dutch Church:

4/8/1671
Marriage: Jan Pieterszen, j. m., en Marritje Pieters, j. d. Van N. Jorck.

However, it has now been proved that Marritje Pieters in this record is Maria, daughter of Pietro Caesar Albertis (Albertus) and Judith Jans. This Maria was baptized in the New York Reformed Dutch Church on 6/27/1649. Pietro Caesar Albertis was an immigrant from Venice, the first Italian known to have lived in New Netherland.

No definitive trace has been found thus far of a marriage or children for Marritien Mabie; however, her name does appear unambiguously as a witness in two Schenectady baptisms in 1704 and 1705. On 10/7/1704, Maria Meby was a witness at the baptism of a child of her niece Anna Mol (daughter of Engeltje Mabie), and on 8/25/1705 Maria Meby was a witness at the baptism of a child of another niece, Eva Meby (daughter of Jan Pieterse Mabie.)

Notes on Tryntie (Catharine) Pieterse (6):

The "standard" genealogy for the Mabie family has Tryntie married to Hans Hendrickszen Spier in 1683 and living thereafter in New Jersey. The following marriage record from the New Amsterdam/New York DRC is cited as proof:

1683: Met attestatie Van Bergen. Hans Hendrickszen Spier, j. m. Van Bergen, en Tryntie Pieters, j. d. als boven. 1 Aug.

This same marriage is also reflected in the Bergen (NJ) RDC records, with the bride identified specifically as being from Long Island. This casts considerable doubt on the accuracy of associating this marriage with a daughter of Pieter Casparszen. Part of the problem is that females named Tryntie with the patronymic Pieters were not uncommon in New York at this time. Moreover, Tryntie, the daughter of Pieter Casparszen, was still living in New York with her mother in 1686 (Members List of the NY DRC), while the Trintie who married Hans Spier was living in New Jersey, baptizing children in the Bergen church. Therefore, it is my belief that they are two different people.

Assuming that Pieter Casparszenís daughter is not the Tryntie Pieters who married Hans Spier, I have been unable to identify any other marriage or baptismal data for a Tryntie Peters who may have been Pieter Casparszenís daughter at this time. It is likely, however, that she was the Tryntie Pieters who was a witness at many of the baptisms cited above.

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