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The Crossley Connection

Descendants of Jonas Crossley

Last reviewed 03 February 2014

Note that this page is to be rewritten following research by Anida Rayfield of Devon [2008]

Jonas CROSSLEY, baptised 1750, occupation Shopkeeper-Jeweller etc, buried: 28 Mar 1807 in St Ann's, Manchester, LAN. No suitable baptism found in Manchester. Marjorie Pollard (a researcher) has suggested [circa 1992] that he may have been born in Halifax as Jonas was a popular name there in the 1700s. As he named his first child Samuel the following entry sounds a possibility:

Elland Parish Register for 21st October 1750:- bp for 'Jonas, of Samuel Crosley of Ealand'.

In 1998 I visited Halifax Archives and found the Halifax Parish Register on m/film. As it was extremely difficult to read, I used the Bishop's transcripts which state: Married 14 Oct 1738, Samuel Crosley of Hal[ifax], Smith, and Mary Hall of North[owran], widow. ref D53/1/7-D53/1/11. Witnesses were John Carrington and George Grimshaw. The marriage was by licence and each party signed the register.

There is a settlement certificate, ref Misc/93/2/163 for 19 JUL 1717, for Samuel Crossley and his wife from Ovenden to Halifax. This is still to be looked at. It might possibly have been the parents of the above Samuel, but probably not!

BUT it should be stressed that these connections are very tenuous and need further research. There were hundreds of Crossleys in Halifax in the 1700s and I found other references in the Card Index eg to a Jonas Crossley, dyer, who was mentioned in a 'draft release' [?will] in 1784 by Iver Campbell, dyer.

The only connection between Halifax and Manchester to date [1998] is James Crossley (1800 - 1883), found in a series of volumes at Halifax library called 'Old Yorkshire'. He 'was transferred' to Manchester and practiced as a solicitor from 1823 - 1860. He was very involved with the Chetham Society, which was formed at his house in 1843. He was elected President for 1848. In 1855 he was elected a 'feoffee' of Chetham's Library. Although, again, there may be no connection, note that George Crossley was Governor of Chetham College, Hunts Bank, from about 1824 to 1836 and, in 1824, Thomas Crossley was a music master at 3 Hunts Bank, which sounds as if he was teaching at the College.

Manchester Trade Directories:

1788 Jonas Crossley, dealer in hardware. Falkner St.

Carrington and Crossley, hardware and toymen, Market Place, Manchester.

1800 Jonas Crossley, jeweller, goldsmith and tea dealer, 89 Market St. Lane.

George Crossley

1807 Probate Index gives: 1807, Jonas Crossley of Manchester, Silversmith. Admon

He married Catherine COTTERELL, married AUG 1781 in The Cathedral, Manchester, LAN, b. 1758, occupation Silversmith & toy dealer, buried: 5 May 1842 in St Ann's, Manchester, LAN. Catherine: Trade Directories:

1817 - Catherine Crossley, silversmith and toydealer, 93 Market Street.

1819/20 - Catherine Crossley, 93 Market st.

1821/22 - Catherine Crossley, toy warehouse, 93 Market St.

1824/25 - Ditto.

1828 - Catherine Crossley, toy warehouse, 93 Market St. House at Cheetwood.

1829 - As before.

1833 - Catherine Crossley, musical instrument dealer, 10 Blackfriars.

1836 - Not in directory.

The burial record describes her as 'Katherine Trenbath of Sale, aged 84', but according to my notes here, she was 94.

I. Samuel CROSSLEY, baptized 16 Jun 1782 in The Cathedral, Manchester, LAN.3

II. George CROSSLEY, baptized 29 Jun 1783 in The Cathedral, Manchester, LAN, occupation House Governor; Headmaster, d. 17 MAY 1858. 1811 directory - Thomas Crossley and Co, silversmiths and hardwaremen. 89 Market St. Lane.

1817 directory - Thomas Crossley, silversmith, toyman and music seller. 19 St Mary's gate.

1819/20 directories - Thomas Crossley, music and toy dealer, 19 St Mary's Gate.

1821/22 directories - Thomas Crossley, music master, 3 Hunts Bank (Location of Chetham's school).

1823 - A Thomas Crossley was a sidesman in "The Cathedral and Parish Church of Manchester".

1829 directory - Thomas Crossley, professor of music, 24 Regent Road.

1824/25 directory - Thomas Crossley, professor of music, Regent Road.

1831 A William Crossley was a churchwarden in the Cathedral.

1851 Census for Birch in Rusholme, St James, Manchester, Lancashire;

Melbourne Place, Rusholme, Manchester (Ref HO 107-2219. Folio 241, p 74, Schedule 189):

George Edward Barlow, Hd, Marr., 30, Manager, Silk Mill,b Salford;

Fanny (nee Crossley), wife, 26, School Mistress, Mchr;

Emma Jane Crossley, Sis.in Law, 28, Governess, Mchr;

Rosana Henley, Asst., 23, Governess, East Leake,NTT;

Ann Quinn? Pupil, 11, Scholar, ?;

Elizabeth F(earnley?), Servant, 30, House servant, Barton, LAN;

For the record, there is a Thomas Crossley in the 1861 census at 168 City Road, Hulme (RG9/2893 p 10). He is a Public Accountant, aged 39 and has a wife, Mary< and 4 children). Just possibly a son of this Thos.?

1858 - I have a note that a Thomas Crossley lived at 'The Vale, Stamford Road' and J G Crossley, Professor of Music, lived at Laurel Bank, Stamford Road. ED 203, ff327-362.

"The Demolished Wesleyan chapels of Manchester and District": Great

Bridgewater Street was between Deansgate and Mosley Street. 1801 to 1873.

ref. LA/LOC/36720 at Soc. Gen.

The Manchester Literary Club was founded by James Crossley FSA.

Ronald Trenbath has been told that Emily was related to the Crossleys of Combermere Abbey, near Nantwich. A Lady Crossley lived in Bowdon and attended the funeral of Robert Wright Trenbath. I have been in touch with the Crossley family and understand that all the family papers have been deposited at the Royal College of Heralds. I think that the connection must have been very remote.

A George Crossley was Governor of Cheetham Library and Bluecoat School around 1814 and it is assumed that he was Emily's brother, but further proof is required.

Possible Baptisms and Marriages:

Bp. 25 DEC 1818 Ann Darwin Crossley. Dau of Thomas Crossley and Mary. Mchr Cath.

Prestwich PR searched for 1816/17/18 for marriages = nil. (Register is very full!).

For the record, I have looked through 1891 RG12/2823 (Altrincham and Bowdon) for Crossleys and found only Samuel Crossley, 42, Commercial Traveller, b Rochdale, and family - at 6 Hart Street in ED 2.

There is a will for a Thomas Crossley, DRAPER, in 1873: Of York Street, Hulme d 4 Jan 1873. Proved by Mary Crossley, WD of 137 York Street. Uner 4000.

The 1891 census also shows some Crossleys at 342 Trafford Road, Manchester:

William Crossley, 51, and family - Overlooker at Cotton Mill, b LAN, ?Besses with Bery? I think this is RG12/3154/?13. At 283 Rocky Lane, there is Robert Crossley and family, aged 31, Stock Keeper, b Bon?.

There is a marriage to Mary Thorpe on 1 Jan 1818 at Bury, St Mary. No others found yet.

Directories, seen at Manchester LS Library:

1811 - 'Silver Smith', 8 St Annes Square, Manchester

1821 - College, Hunts Bank

1824/25 - Governor of the College

1828 - Governor of the College etc

1829 - Governor of Cheetham's Library and Bluecoat School

1833 (and 1836?) - Governor of Cheetham's College

According to the Librarian at Chetham's Library, Long Millgate, Manchester. in November 1998 - He was House Governor Headmaster of Chetham's Hospital from 1818 to 1841. He was appointed head on 22nd July 1818 and resigned on 14th October 1841. They sent me a daguerreotype of him. Mr Powell thinks he was born in 1783. His education is unknown - he does not appear on a list of pupils at Manchester Grammar School and records of other institutions are few and far between.

The Governor's minutes for Chetham's will almost certainly feature him, but they are concerned entirely with school business.

Mr Powell says that the address of 3 Hunts Bank, where Thomas Crossley resided in 1821 is not the same as Chethams. Until the 1960s Chethams was essentially a charity school, known as Chetham's Hospital, similar to Christchurch Hospital in London. Music did not feature as part of the curriculum. Chetham's address would be Long Millgate, rather than Hunts Bank, which was the street at the back of the complex.

And yet it is listed in an 1821 (publisher not noted) directory, seen at the Local Studies Library in Manchester as being on Hunt's Bank. Further research required!

III. Thomas CROSSLEY, baptized 8 May 1785 in The Cathedral, Manchester, LAN, occupation Professor of Music, d. AFT 1858.,4 1811 directory - Thomas Crossley and Co, silversmiths and hardwaremen. 89 Market St. Lane.

1817 directory - Thomas Crossley, silversmith, toyman and music seller. 19 St Mary's gate.

1819/20 directories - Thomas Crossley, music and toy dealer, 19 St Mary's Gate.

1821/22 directories - Thomas Crossley, music master, 3 Hunts Bank (Location of Chetham's school).

1823 - A Thomas Crossley was a sidesman in "The Cathedral and Parish Church of Manchester".

1829 directory - Thomas Crossley, professor of music, 24 Regent Road.

1824/25 directory - Thomas Crossley, professor of music, Regent Road.

1831 A William Crossley was a churchwarden in the Cathedral.

1851 Census for Birch in Rusholme, St James, Manchester, Lancashire;

Melbourne Place, Rusholme, Manchester (Ref HO 107-2219. Folio 241, p 74, Schedule 189):

George Edward Barlow, Hd, Marr., 30, Manager, Silk Mill,b Salford;

Fanny (nee Crossley), wife, 26, School Mistress, Mchr;

Emma Jane Crossley, Sis.in Law, 28, Governess, Mchr;

Rosana Henley, Asst., 23, Governess, East Leake,NTT;

Ann Quinn? Pupil, 11, Scholar, ?;

Elizabeth F(earnley?), Servant, 30, House servant, Barton, LAN;

For the record, there is a Thomas Crossley in the 1861 census at 168 City Road, Hulme (RG9/2893 p 10). He is a Public Accountant, aged 39 and has a wife, Mary< and 4 children). Just possibly a son of this Thos.?

1858 - I have a note that a Thomas Crossley lived at 'The Vale, Stamford Road' and J G Crossley, Professor of Music, lived at Laurel Bank, Stamford Road. ED 203, ff327-362.

"The Demolished Wesleyan chapels of Manchester and District": Great

Bridgewater Street was between Deansgate and Mosley Street. 1801 to 1873.

ref. LA/LOC/36720 at Soc. Gen.

The Manchester Literary Club was founded by James Crossley FSA.

Ronald Trenbath says that he was told that Emily was related to the Crossleys of Combermere Abbey, near Nantwich. A Lady Crossley lived in Bowdon and attended the funeral of Robert Wright Trenbath. I have been in touch with the Crossley family and understand that all the family papers have been deposited at the Royal College of Heralds. I think that the connection must have been very remote.

A George Crossley was Governor of Cheetham Library and Bluecoat School around 1814 and it is assumed that he was Emily's brother, but further proof is required.

Possible Baptisms and Marriages:

Bp. 25 DEC 1818 Ann Darwin Crossley. Dau of Thomas Crossley and Mary. Mchr Cath.

Prestwich PR searched for 1816/17/18 for marriages = nil. (Register is very full!).

For the record, I have looked through 1891 RG12/2823 (Altrincham and Bowdon) for Crossleys and found only Samuel Crossley, 42, Commercial Traveller, b Rochdale, and family - at 6 Hart Street in ED 2.

There is a will for a Thomas Crossley, DRAPER, in 1873: Of York Street, Hulme d 4 Jan 1873. Proved by Mary Crossley, WD of 137 York Street. Uner 4000.

The 1891 census also shows some Crossleys at 342 Trafford Road, Manchester:

William Crossley, 51, and family - Overlooker at Cotton Mill, b LAN, ?Besses with Bery? I think this is RG12/3154/?13. At 283 Rocky Lane, there is Robert Crossley and family, aged 31, Stock Keeper, b Bon?.

There is a marriage to Mary Thorpe on 1 Jan 1818 at Bury, St Mary. No others found yet.

He married Mary -?-, married ? 1 JAN 1818 in St Mary's, Bury, LAN.

A. George Jonas CROSSLEY, b. cir CA 1819, d. June 1867 in Ormskirk. 1871 census for St Paul, N Meols, LAN ref RG10/3876 ED22f73

Elizabeth Crossley, HD, WD, 40, Principal of Boys' School, b Oldham;

Reginald, SO, 7, SO, Scholar, b Bowden;

Charles Albert, , SO, 6, SO,

Arthur ?Leigh Elton, SH, 10,

Charles ?Nappier, SH, 15,

Herbert Trenbath, Nephew, 11, SH, b Bowden;

Frederick Trenbath, 9, SH, NP, b Bowden;

Henry Gilliatt, SH, 9, ;

Alice ?Moss, SV, WD, 45, ;

Elizabeth Parkinson, SV, U, 38, ;

1881 census for Crossleys in Leicestershire doesn't show any Crossleys in Melton Mowbray

A letter from RWTrenbath reads:

Bowdon, March 11th 1859

Gentlemen,

Having called upon Mrs Munday this morning she shewed me your letter enclosing the amount of legacy from the late Mr Richmond. She desired me to write to you to give you the information you wish as to who were the executors of the late George Crossley of Bowdon. They are Mr Robert Trenbath Stamford Road, Bowdon [crossed out] Albert Square Bowdon, Mr George Jonas Crossley, Stamford Road, Bowdon, Miss Mary Crossley, Dunham.

My brother, George Crossley died 17 May last.

I am, gentlemen

Your Obedient Servant

Thomas Croslley

Bowdon, Near Manchester

PS I could not make out your signature except the name Lightfoot, but hope this will reach you.

Also:

32 Corporation Street, Manchester, March 1859

Gentlemen,

Re Richmond

Mrs [?]Munday has handed me a letter received from you, wishing to know the names etc of the late George Crossley's executors. It appears my father-in-law, Thomas Crossley, had written to you, but could not make out your firm, and I fear you may not have received his letter. I therefore beg to annex you the information required, and to say that Mr Geo. Crossley left his property to his brother Thomas, for his life only, and then to be equally divided amongst his children at his death.

The executors are myself, Mr G J Crossley, Stamford Road, Bowdon, and Miss Crossley, Dunham.

I am Gentlemen,

Yours respectfully, Robert W Trenbath

[To:] Messrs Lightfoot Earnshaw and Frankish

[?] Manchester.

He married Elizabeth TRENBATH, married 23 Jun 1859 in , Melton Mowbray, LEI,, b. ABOUT 1827-1830 in , Oldham, LAN,, (daughter of George TRENBATH and Hannah COXON) occupation Principal of Boys' School in 1871. Elizabeth: 1851 Census for 82 Gt Clowes St, Broughton: aged 24, at home, born Oldham. Her mother died in Melton Mowbray, so presumably came to live with them just before she died in SEP 1859. [note that her age does not tally with that given in 1871]

1871 census:

N Meols, St Paul, Lancashire; reg RG10/3876 ED22f73, Ormskirk District

27 Lord Street, Southport -

Elizabeth Crossley, HD, Widow, 40, Principal of boys' school, born Oldham;

Reginald Crossley, SO, 7, SCH, b Bowden;

Charles Albert Crossley, SO, SCH, 6, b Southport;

Arthur -?- Elton, SCH, 10, , b Cheadle, CHS;

Charles ?Nappier, SCH, 15, b Cheadle;

Herbert Trenbath, Nephew, 11, SCH, b Bowden;

Frederick Trenbath, Nephew, 9, b Bowden;

Henry Gilliatt, SCH, 9, b America;

Alice Moss, SV, U, 45, b LAN;

Elizabeth Parkinson, SV, 38, b LAN;.

1. Reginald CROSSLEY, b. circa 1864 in , Bowden, CHS.13 Not yet found in FRC birth indexes.

1871 census RG10/3876 ED22f73 for Ormskirk, N Meols, St Paul, LAN: aged 7, living with widowed mother who is Principal of boys' school.

2. Gertrude CROSSLEY. Unmarried. Living in Bowdon in 1911, according to Eliza TRENBATH'S will, where she is described as Eliza's 'cousin'. Left 20 pa for life.

3. Clark CROSSLEY.

4. Charles Albert CROSSLEY, b. circa 1865.13

B. Emma Jane CROSSLEY, b. cir CA 1823 in , Manchester, LAN, occupation Governess. Living with her sister, Fanny, and George Barlow in 1851.

C. Fanny CROSSLEY, b. cir CA 1825 in , Manchester, LAN. 1851 Census ref HO 107-2219 f 241, p 274. Schedule 189: Living at Melbourne Place, Rusholme , Manchester, aged 26. I think that she is with the correct parents! She is certainly the sister of Emma Jane Crossley.

She married George Edward BARLOW, married 21 Dec 1850 in St James, Birch in Rusholme, LAN, b. cir CA 1820 in , Salford, LAN. George: 1851 Census for Melbourne Place, Birch in Rusholme, St James. Manchester: George Edward Barlow, Hd, marr.; 30; Manager Silk Mill, b Salford, LAN. Fanny (nee Crossley) WI; 26;school Mistress; b Salford, Manchester. Emma Jane Crossley, Sis in Law; 28; Governess; b Salford; Rosana Henley; Ass; Unmarried; 23; Governess; b East Leake; NTT. Anne Quinn?; Pupil; 11;Scholar; b ??? ??; Elizabeth F(earnley?); Unmarried; 30; House Servant; b Lancs, Barton.

D. Emily CROSSLEY, b. 1828 in , Manchester, LAN, d. 6 Dec 1868 in Albert Square, Bowdon, CHS, buried: 9 Dec 1868 in Bowdon Churchyard, Bowdon, CHS. Married on the same day, but at a different church, as Fanny Crossley. Buried in same grave as Robert, Ada, Cecil. Reputed to have been related to Lady Mabel Crossley. It was William John Crossley who started the carpet factory. Frederick Wm Crossley m Emily Kerr at St Margarets, Dunham Massey 1 JUN 1871

Her death was reported as being due to 'Marasmus', which means severe malnutrition or severe malabsorption of nutrients. I wonder if this was due to coeliac disease, from which I suffer in a mild form (SRWeston, nee Trenbath).

She married Robert Wright TRENBATH, married 21 Dec 1850 in The Cathedral, Manchester, LAN, b. 27 Dec 1825 in , Patricroft, Cheshire, England, (son of Thomas TRENBATH and Mary WRIGHT) occupation Com'l. Trav'r; Shirt Manufacturer/Mcht, d. 4 Oct 1902 in , Bowdon, CHS, buried: 6 Oct 1902 in St Mary's Parish Church, Bowdon, CHS. Robert: In the 1998 IGI his marriage is said to be at St James, Birch in Ruholme, Manchester and suname is spelt as .Trenbatt'.

1849 - His newspaper obituary said he settled in Bowdon on the opening of the Manchester, South Junction and Altrincham railway in 1849.

Incidentally I have looked at the 1851 census for Stretford, where Lady Penelope Crossley said the Crossley family came from and there are no Crossleys there (ref HO107/2218 pp 390 onwards).

1851 census for 4 Willow Grove, Hulme (ref: m/f F059 in the war-damaged transcriptions carousel at FRC - written as Richd? W TURNBATH in the name index)

Robert Wright Trenbath, M, 25, Commercial Traveller;

Emily, WI, 24, Commercial Traveller's wife;

Phoebe Smith, W, 43, House Servant, b Newton, Lan;

1851 - Their first son, Robert Crossley Trenbath was born in October 1851 at Manchester.

1852 - Slaters - Traveller, at 5 Willow Cresc., Hulme [should be 'Grove' - SRW]

1853 - Ada was registered in Stretford. Did Emily, perhaps, go back to her parents for the birth?

1856 - Slater's Directory:

TRENBATH, Robert Wright - shirt manufacturer (Good and TRENBATH).

Home Address: Albert Sq., Bowdon.

Place of business: Manchester.

Note: 'Manchester of Today' publ. 1888 says of R W Trenbath & Co.: 'This

business has been established upwards of 34 years'. Thus it must have been started about 1854.

Moved to Bowdon sometime before 1860, when Arthur was born.

1861 Census (ref. RG 9-2590 folio 72 p 7 Schedule 26):

2 Albert Sq., Bowdon;

Robert TRENBATH, aged 35, born in Manchester, Shirt Manufacturer;

Emily TRENBATH, 34, b Manchester;

Robert TRENBATH, 9, b Manchester, Scholar;

Ada TRENBATH, 8, b Stretford, CHS, Scholar;

Arthur H. TRENBATH, 12 months, b Bowdon, CHS;

Ann Rooney, 23, b Patricroft, Lancs, Servant;

Ann Clark, 17, b Dunham, Servant;

1864 - Morris & Co.'s Directory & Gazeteer for Cheshire:

RW TRENBATH, Albert Sq. Bowdon.

1866 - his uncle, William, died and he inherited ?about 1000, as did

William's wife, Mary, and his daughters Mary Entwistle and Eliza. See #342.

He was at 32 Constitution St., Manchester at that time.

1869 - Slaters - R W Trenbath & Co, Shirt manufacturers. Albert Square,

Bowdon.

1871 Census - ref: RG10/3683 ED11 folio 146a -

31 Albert Sq., Bowdon:

Robert Wright TRENBATH, (widower), 45, Home Trade Merchant; b Manchester.

Robert C TRENBATH, 19; Clerk; b Manchester.

Ada TRENBATH, 18, b Stretford; LAN;

Cecil TRENBATH, 8, Scholar;

Sarah Davies, 20, b Llanarm, Wales. General Servant;

1878 - PO Directory: RWT, Albert Sq. etc.

See Sophrone Wright in US census for 1880

1881 Census:

Albert Sq:

Robert Wright TRENBATH (widower), 55, b Manchester, Merchant,

Ada TRENBATH, 28, b Stretford;

Arthur H TRENBATH, 21, b Bowdon, Clerk;

Frederick E TRENBATH, 19, Bowdon, Apprentice,

Cecil TRENBATH, 18, b Bowdon, Apprentice?(sic);

Elizabeth Shaw, 19, b Rowsley. DBS, Cook;

Mary Norton, 19, b Salop, Housemaid, Pickstock Grange, Shropshire;

1888 - seen at M/ch local studies library: Article about Robert W TRENBATH & Co. Manufacturer of Shirts, fronts, collars & scarfs etc. 3 Union St., Church street. [Manchester of Today (Historical Publications) 1888 (ref: Q 942.7365 M21 p 114)]...

This business has been established for upwards of thirty four years. Messrs. Trenbath & Co. manufacture shirts, fronts, collars, cravats etc for both home and shipping trade. The leading feature of their business is the trade in gentlemen's skarf goods, in which the firm enjoys a national reputation.

Another speciality is white cotton shirts with linen fittings. Of these goods, which are sent all over the kingdom, the firm turn out hundreds of grosses per week. Another important line is in men's regattas and Oxfords; while of ordinary common woollen shirts an enormous stock is manufactured during the season. A staff of some five and twenty hands is employed; but in the workrooms are several hundred machinists and finishers, while the out-door hands are extremely numerous. The firm has representatives in all parts of England and Wales, and does an enormous trade. The sole partner is Mr Robert W Trenbath, trading as RWTrenbath and Co., a gentleman who has had great experience in this business, and is deservedly popular in commercial cirles on account of his ability and inflexible integrity.

1891 Census for Bowdon, CHS - RG12/2824 ED 14 folio 73 - Albert Square (next door to a 'Cotton Yarn Merchant' and, on the other side, a 'Silk Agent'.

Robert W Trenbath; H; Widower; 65; Home Trade Merchant; b Manchester.

Ada Trenbath; Da; Single; 38; b Stretford.

Arthur H Trenbath; Son; 31; single; Commercial Traveller; b Bowdon, CHS.

Cecil Trenbath; son; single; 28; Commercial Traveller; b Bowdon.

The SV was born in Woodfort, NTH.

Note that Henry Gaddum, a friend, lived on Green Walk (f 157) in 1851 and is described as a Waste Silk Merchant and proprietor of houses. There was a Frank Crossley, b Ireland, a Mechanical Engineer, on f 153 of the same reel. According to family legend, Robert Wright was a friend of Naismith of Steam Hammer faim. Naismith had a foundry in Dale Street, Manchester, in 1842 and later opened the Bridgewater Foundery in Patricroft. I believe that they were both on the committee of the local Literary Society (for educating the working classes).

1894 - Elected a councillor at the first election of Urban District Councillors on 15th December 1894. I wonder if there is a report in the local newspapers. To date (1998) I haven't been able to find a photograph of him.

1896 - Kelly's Directory: R W T, Albert Square, Bowdon, CHS.

1899 - Slaters - R W T & Co, wholesale shirt, collar & tie Manufacturer. 3 Union St., Church Street. h Albert Sq. Pay day Friday.

1901 Census RG13/3323/99/1/3, for Albert Sq. Silverburne [sic], Altrincham, St John, CHS;

Robert W Trenbath, 75, WD, Wholesale shirt merchant, Employer, b Manchester, LAN,

Ada, DA, 48,

Cecil, SO, 38, SO, undefined employment, b Bowdon, CHS;

1905 - R W Trenbath & Sons, the business having passed to Cecil and Frederick Ernest, apparently. Look for their wills. Why wasn't Arthur Herbert involved in the business, I wonder? Could this explain the fact that Dad had never heard anything about his Grandfather Trenbath?

Directory - R W Trenbath & Sons: Wholesale Manufacturer of shirts, fronts, collars, ties etc. 20 Nicholas St., Portland St.. Pay day first Friday of month.

He was still in the 1910 Directory, although he died in 1902. No will has been found, in spite of a considerable search .

Buried in same grave as Emily, as were Ada and Cecil later. In December 1996, Philip and I cleaned up the grave and removed a lot of ivy, weeds and brambles etc which had encroached on it. We also cut the brambles from the memorial to Eric Taylor Trenbath, who was killed at Polcapelle in WW1.

His obituary says that he is proud of the fact that he is descended from John Wesley, through his mother. Also, that he is a cousin of George Bowden DD, the well-known Methodist Minister. It was originally thought that his mother was Mary Wright. Ann Wright, presumably her sister, was married to George Bowden's mother. It is a bit of a mystery as to why Robert's middle name is Wright and further research is required.

1. Robert Crossley TRENBATH, b. 18 OCT 1850 in , Bowdon, CHS,, occupation Silk and Cotton Importer., d. 18 Oct 1911 in , Bernardsville, NY, USA, buried: in Oakwood Cemetary, Troy, NY, USA. Farmer in Yakima Valley (?and Somerville, NJ.) Organist and choirmaster in Episcopalian Church. Also a buyer for ATSewart & Co. Returned to farming in later years. See A L Rowse 'The Cornish in America'. Came to America about 1871/2.

From local newspaper:

Robert Trenbath expires suddenly - Father of local Clergyman stricken after finishing mid-day meal at his home.... Robert C Trenbath, father of the Rev. Robert W Trenbath and of Herbert W Trenbath of this city, died very suddenly at his home at Bernardsville yesterday afternoon. Mr Trenbath had walked to church in the morning and had just finished dinner when he fell off his chair and expired immediately.

Mr Trenbath was born in Manchester, England, 64 years ago, and was for many years engaged in the dry goods business in New York City. He retired from the dry goods business some years ago and had resided in Somerville and Bernardsville for several years.

The funeral will take place tomorrow afternoon from St John's Church, Somerville, where he was organist and choirmaster for many years. Internment will be in Oakwood Cemetary, Troy, New York.

He married Alice Aloa WIGHT, married 17 Jun 1874 in Presbyterian Ch, Fifth Ave, NY, USA, b. 21 Mar 1849 in , Troy, NY, USA, occupation Lay Artist, d. 21 Nov 1906 in , Somerville, NJ, USA, buried: in Oakwood Cemetary, Troy, NY, USA. Alice: Pen and ink drawings, but used colour also. Fond of farm scenes. Died at 64 West End Avenue, Somerville.

1880 US census for District 1, Bridgewater, Somerset, NJ, FH Library film 1254797, NA Film no. T9-0797, page no. 336D:

It sounds as if the building may be a farm.

Sophrone P Wright [This should be WIGHT], WD, 76, b CT, parents' birthplace=CT;

Edward M WIGHT, SO, Married, 45, b NY, Lawyer,

Mary WIGHT, DL, Married, 40, NY, parents born in NY;

Helen S WIGHT, GDa, Unmarried, 12, NY, parents born in NY;

Robert [Crossley] TRENBATH, M, SL, b ENG, ;

Alice [Alloa] WIGHT, M, DA, NY, ;

Robert [Crossley] Trenbath, GS, 2, NY,

George ANTON, M, 30, Germany, works on Farm;

Rosa ANTON, M, 22, NJ, Germany, Works in house;

Lewis SNYDER, S, 22, NJ, Works on farm;.

2. Ada Emily TRENBATH, b. 29 Jan 1853 in Harriet St., Stretford, LAN,15,21 d. JUN 1933 in , Bucklow, CHS,, buried: 7 Jun 1933 in Parish Church, Bowdon, CHS.17 Unmarried. Mentioned in Eliza TRENBATH's will - 'of Bowdon' Buried with Emily, Robert and Cecil. Born at Harriet Street, Stretford; Barton upon Irwell registration district. Registered by her father. A Church District Visitor and member of the Ladies Guild in 1897 - source: Bowdon Parish Magazine for 1897. Received 25 pa from will of Eliza Trenbath.

3. Arthur Herbert TRENBATH, b. 11 Feb 1860 in Albert Square, Bowdon, CHS, occupation Traveller in Tailor's Sundries/Co Director, d. 18 Jan 1932 in 10 Aughton Road, Southport, LAN. 1861 census - Aged 12 months, in Albert Square, Altrincham (See under Robert W Trenbath).

1871 census - aged 11, with his brother, Frederick, in Hh of his Aunt Elizabeth (Crossley), widow, aged 40, in Ormskirk. ref RG10/3876Ed22f73,

17 or 27 Lord Street

Name given as Herbert.

1881 census - He was at home in Albert Square, aged 21, with his parents.

1891 census - not yet found. He may have been away from home 'travelling' for his father's company. Refs at FRC are RG12-2825 ff92-4, 70, 69-71; 2824 ff100-104, 107, 111-113; 2820 f64 (some of these may be for Rahr references).

He was rather fond of dancing, and may have met Lena at a dancing class in Bowdon or Altrincham 1898 When Don was born, he was at 'Ashlee', Vicarage Lane, Bowdon.

Slaters 1899 directory: Herbert Trenbath of Ash Terrace, Vicarage Lane, Bowdon.

The Bowdon Parish magazine in 1897 lists Mr & Mrs A Trenbath under 'Penny Banks' as 'Workers - The Vale. Mrs Trenbath was a Church District Visitor in 1909

1901 - Inger's birth is registered at Bucklow

1901 census for High Bank, off Durham Road, Altrincham

Arthur H Trenbath, HD, 41, Merchant House Trade Dry Goods Silk, employer, b Altincham CHS; (where is his wife?)

Donald R Trenbath, SO, 2, b Bowdon CHS;

Elizabeth Rahr, MO in Law, 72, b Leek STS;

Alfred E Rahr, BRO in Law, 37, b Withington, LAN;

plus Servants Alice Griffiths, Margaret Curry, Lucy Potter, Caroline Jones

1910 - In Jury list for Birkdale he is listed as a Wool Merchant [presumably an error]

1912, when Eliza Trenbath died he was at Inglewood, 10 Aughton Road, Southport

1914 - He is listed as Herbert.

Helga thinks that he died after having a heart attack on a train or at the station.His death certificate gives the cause of death as 1a) Angina pectoris 1b) Arteris Schlerosis 1c) Diabetis Insipidis He is described on the certificate as 'Company Director'. I wonder if he was in his father's company or if it was still in existence?

Helga thinks that he tried to borrow 15,000 (an enormous amount in those days) from one of the Rahrs (??Alfred Rahr), in order to become a director, but it was refused. It looks as if he got it from someone eventually. This story needs substantiating.

On HARahr's death certificate, it says that he was the widow of AHT 'Linings Manufacturer'

Will says 'of 10 Aughton road, Birkdale, Southport'. Probate granted on 19 APR 1932 at Liverpool to D R TRENBATH, bank clerk. Effects 2,062 7s 7d.

He married Helena Amelia RAHR, married 9 Apr 1896 in Parish Church, Bowdon, CHS, b. 17 Dec 1867 in , Withington, Lancs, England,26 (daughter of Viggo Dannefoerd RAHR and Elizabeth WHITE) d. 8 Sep 1947 in , Southport, LAN, buried: in Trinity Ch-Alexandra Rd, Southport, LAN. Helena: Arthur Herbert Trenbath, born 1860 and Helena Amelia Rahr, b 1867

Lena, as Arthur called her, was crippled with Osteoarthritis and in a wheel-chair for the last 27 yrs of life. Dad once told me that when he was sitting by her bed as she died he saw a flame above her bed which gradually died down I remember her as a very gentle and kind person, dressed in black with lace collars.

Will: 'of 10 Aughton Road, Southport. Administration London, 17 JAN 1948 to Donald Rahr Trenbath, Bank Manager. Arthur: Will says 'of 10 Aughton road, Birkdale, Southport'. Probate granted on 19 APR 1932 at Liverpool to D R TRENBATH, bank clerk. Effects 2,062 7s 7d. Cotton Manufacturer. Brother-in-law Alfred Edwin RAHR and Donald R TRENBATH as executors. 'All wines and provisions to wife'. 1861 census - Aged 12 months, in Albert Square, Altrincham (See under Robert W Trenbath).

4. Frederick Ernest TRENBATH, b. JUN 1861 in , Altrincham, CHS, occupation Agent, d. MAR 1935 in , Newcastle on Tyne, LAN. Ancestral File has born SEP 1861. This should be checked, as there may have been two Fredericks.

He is described as 'agent' in most of the directories, although one for 1905 gave 'Wholesale Shirt Manufacturer' and the marriage settlement in 1896 gave 'Salesman'.

1855 Whelan directory and 1876 Christie's Directory - no mention.

1871 census - RG10/3876 ED22f73 for Ormskirk, N Meols, St Pauls, LAN: aged 9, in Hh of Aunt Elizabeth (Crossley) who runs a boys' school.

1881 - Living with his father at Albert Square, Bowdon, aged 19, apprentice.

1886 Kelly's & 1887 Bulmers directories - no mention.

1887 & 1889 Ward's directories - Frederick Trenbath, agent, living at 41 Larkspur Terrace, Jesmond.

1891 census (Ref RG12/4219 f20) 46 Grosvenor Place in the Parish of St George in the residential suburb of Jesmond:

Frederick E Trenbath, M, 29, agent, b Bowden, CHS;

Elizabeth, WI, 30, b Bowdon, CHS;

Frederick T Trenbath, SO, 4, b Newcastle;

Ethel M Trenbath, 2, b Newcastle;

Louisa Blackshore, SV, U, b Lipton (?), DEV;

Sarah Cruddas (?), SV, Nurse, b Hetton-le-Hole, DUR;

[At 41 Larkspur Cresc. was Alice Hunter, HD, WD, 66, Living on own means, b Gayles (?), DUR

Margaret Atkinson, SV, 60, b Chester-le-Street, DUR;

1896 - Living at Jesmond when he was witness to the marriage settlement of Helena R Trenbath and AH Trenbath in Southport.

1901 census, ref RG 13/4782/163/29/169 for 46 Grosvenor Place, Jesmond, St George's Newcastle, Northumberland:

Frederick Ernest Trenbath, HD, 37 [birth registered June 1860 qtr], Commission Agent Mercery [sic], own account, b Bowden, CHS;

Elizabeth, WI, 40, b Bowden, CHS;

Frederick Taylor, SO, 14, b Northumberland, Newcastle;

Ethel Mary , DA, 12, b Northumberland, Newcastle;

Rebecca Finlay, SV, 22, Domestic Servant, Durham, Stockton;

1905 - 46 Grosvenor Place, Jesmond 'of RWTrenbath & sons.

It sounds as if Cecil and he took over their father's company.

1915 Ward's directory - agent at 46 Grosvenor Place with business premises at 1 Charlotte Square.

1917 - His son, Eric, was killed at Poicapelle, Belgium (near Ypres).

1922 Ward's - Agent, with business address (along with other businesses) at Marshall's Buildings, 44 Clayton St. He lived at 49 Eldon Place, in city centre.

1925 - His wife, Elizabeth, died in August and his daughter, Ethel Mary, married Frederick Libby in the December quarter.

 

1926 & 1931 Ward's - As 1922, but no place of residence.

 

In 1998 a U3A member (Alan Willey) looked for any advertisements and found none.

 

He is described as 'agent' in most of the directories, although one for 1905 gave 'Wholesale Shirt Manufacturer' and the marriage settlement in 1896 gave 'Salesman'.

 

A 1905 directory says 'Of RWT & Sons' it sounds as if Cecil and he took over their father's company.

 

1855 Whelan directory and 1876 Christie's Directory - no mention.

 

1881 - Living with his father at Albert Square, Bowdon, aged 19, apprentice.

 

1886 Kelly's & 1887 Bulmers directories - no mention.

 

1887 & 1889 Ward's directories - Frederick Trenbath, agent, living at 41 Larkspur Terrace, Jesmond.

 

1891 census (Ref RG12/4219 f20) 46 Grosvenor Place in the Parish of St George in the residential suburb of Jesmond:

Frederick E Trenbath, M, 29, agent, b Bowden, CHS;

Elizabeth, WI, 30, b Bowdon, CHS;

Frederick T Trenbath, SO, 4, b Newcastle;

Ethel M Trenbath, 2, b Newcastle;

Louisa Blackshore, SV, U, b Lipton (?), DEV;

Sarah Cruddas (?), SV, Nurse, b Hetton-le-Hole, DUR;

[At 41 Larkspur Cresc. was Alice Hunter, HD, WD, 66, Living on own means, b Gayles (?), DUR

Margaret Atkinson, SV, 60, b Chester-le-Street, DUR;

1896 - Living at Jesmond when he was witness to the marriage settlement of Helena R Trenbath and AH Trenbath in Southport.

1905 - 46 Grosvenor Place, Jesmond 'of RWTrenbath & sons.

1915 Ward's directory - agent at 46 Grosvenor Place with business premises at 1 Charlotte Square.

1917 - His son, Eric, was killed at Poicapelle, Belgium (near Ypres).

1922 Ward's - Agent, with business address (along with other businesses) at Marshall's Buildings, 44 Clayton St. He lived at 49 Eldon Place, in city centre.

1925 - His wife, Elizabeth, died in August and his daughter, Ethel Mary, married Frederick Libby in the December quarter.

1926 & 1931 Ward's - As 1922, but no place of residence.

In 1998 a U3A member (Alan Willey) looked for any advertisements and found none.

He married Elizabeth TAYLOR, married JUNE 1886 in , Altrincham, CHS,30 b. cir CA 1860 in , Bowden, CHS,,19 d. 3 Aug 1925 in 50 Lodore Road, Newcastle on Tyne, LAN. Elizabeth: Will: Elizabeth Trenbath, of Lodore Road, Newcastle upon Tyne. Wife of

Frederick Ernest Trenbath. Probate granted at London on 9 NOV 1925 to John

Taylor, Gentleman, and Ruth Taylor, spinster, and James Mottram, Bank Manager.

Effects 914.5.6.

The codicil gives her new address as 18 Leslie Crescent, N upon T. It mentions moneys held in trust for her daughter and belonging to the estate of her late father, Samuel Taylor.

5. Cecil TRENBATH, b. MARCH 1863 in , Altrincham, CHS,28 occupation Wholesale Shirt Mnfctr., d. 21 APR 1932 in Bowdon, CHS, buried: 23 Apr 1932 in Parish Church, Bowdon, CHS. In the 1901 census he is at Albert square, Silverburne, Bowdon, CHS

1905 Directory - Wholesale shirt Manufacturer (RWT & sons)) of Rose Hill,

Bowdon. I think that he must have inherited the factory when his father died. An archivist at FRC suggested that a verbal agreement could have been made.

1909 - Manufacturers Agent - 22 Cooper Street.

1919 Slaters - Manufacturers' Agent at 21 [sic] Cooper Street and 'Glenarn',

East Downs Road, Bowdon.

1926 - Manufacturers Agent at 21 Cooper St & 'Glenarn'.

1932 - Manufacturers Agent at 22 [sic] Cooper Street and 'Glenarn'.

Will: 'of Glenarn, Rose Hill, Bowdon, CHS. Probate granted on 30 JUN 1932 to Wm Raby (solicitor) and Harold Vernon TRENBATH, commercial representative. Effects 504 11s. Left everything to his sister, Ada. After her death all was to go equally to Arthur H TRENBATH and Frederick Ernest TRENBATH. Codicil: antique oak bureau to Jane Makey as a mark of her kindness and attention. Harold Vernon TRENBATH in place of AHT as executor, after his death.

E. Charles CROSSLEY. Details to be confirmed.

IV. Mary CROSSLEY, baptized 3 Jun 1787 in The Cathedral, Manchester, LAN.

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