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The THORN Family Line

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Robert M. Sharp is the 12th lineal descendant of Thomas Thorn of West Riding, Yorkshire, England.  This relationship is through his Sharp and Kinsey lines.  I am indebted to my great aunt Winifred Kinsey, who was the Kinsey/Thorn family historian and organizer of the Kinsey family reunions I attended as a child.   Her mother was Martha Alice Thorn Kinsey, so Aunt Winnie knew her Thorn relations and did a careful job recording their history.  I am also fortunate to have corresponded with Barb Broman for many years.  Barb is also a descendant of Taylor Arrington Thorn and her painstaking research of North Carolina records are the basis for much of what I have collected on our early Thorn family.   I also corresponded with many members of the THORN(E) Family Discussion List at THORN-L@rootsweb.com, facilitated by Pam Reid.  Our Thorn family wrote their own history.  I have just tried to collect it into one place with the invaluable help of many others.  

Generation 1

 

1.     Thomas Thorn-1[1] was born in 1622 in West Riding, Yorkshire, England. 

 

The first five generations of the Thorn line presented here are in the process of validation by several researchers. The evidence and some conjecture points to this as the best estimate of the Thorn lineage. The surety of this line will improve as additional proof is obtained. Thomas Thorne is listed among the 144 passengers of the ship 'Safety' who left London to Virginia, Aug 10 1635. The ship was chartered on 5 July 1635 between William Anthony and John Grant of London for the voyage to Virginia. 

 

Sources:

(1)   PRO Class E 157/20, ff.56-56v, 10 August 1635 - The Register of passengers leaving the Port of London and licenses to pass beyond the sea (Christmas 1634 - Christmas 1635). Exchequer; King's Remembrancer class, list of records II, p.151.  

(2)   The Original Lists of Persons of Quality; Emigrants; Religious Exiles; Political Rebels; Serving Men Sold for a Term of Years; Apprentices; Children Stolen; Maidens Pressed; and Others Who Went from Great Britain to the American Plantations 1600-1700. From Mss. Preserved in the State Paper Department of Her Majesty's Public Record Office, England. Edited by John Camden Hotten. Chatto and Windus, Publishers, London, England, 1874. pages 121-123.  

(3)   http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/HENDRY/1998-07/0901735578 In 1638 he was on the headwright list for land at the southern mouth of the James River. 

 

?? Martin ?? daughter of William Martin[1, 2].

 

 

The name of the wife of Thomas is unknown. However, Thomas landed in the company of a William Martin. It is possible the Thomas married a daughter of Martin. The name Martin is prominent as given names in future generation of Thorns.

 

 

 

Thomas Thorn and ?? Martin ?? married. They had the following children:

 

2.

i.

Martin Thorn[1, 3, 4] was born before 1657[1]. He married Martha ?? in 1676. He died in 1695

 

 

 

in Surry Co, VA.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Generation 2

2.

Martin Thorn-2 (Thomas-1)[1, 3, 4] was born before 1657[1]. He died in 1695 in Surry Co, VA.

   

Martin Thorn is first recorded 1674 in Surry County on the south side of the James River. He was in the category of "partner, son or servant 16 yrs. or over in age" living in the household of Xopher (Christopher) Smith. In 1676 Martin Thorn was defendant in a suit by Capt. Charles Barham regarding Thorn's trading with the plainant's servants [meaning unclear]. In 1677 Martin Thorn was involved in a suit with Christopher Smith and Thorn was allowed to "quietly and without molestaco fetch his cattle from ye house of Christopher Smith and sd. Smith pay costs." In 1676, Martin Thorn married the widow of David Williams whose estate was read in 1675 naming an orphaned boy, Wm. Harris, and wife Martha Williams. The estate was divided between her and "her children" with a child "in esse" to have equal portion with wife and daughter. Martin Thorn was in tithable lists from 1678 until 1694, meaning he owned land. His tithable age of 21 or over in 1678 makes his birth year 1657 or earlier. David Williams may have married the widow Martha Harris who had a son, William, and a daughter. David and Martha then conceived a child ("in esse") that was subsequently named Martha Williams. In 1685 Martin Thorn appeared in court regarding the estate of David Williams where "orphans" are mentioned. One orphaned daughter (named Harris?) was given over to the care of Wm. Prosser and wife in 1685. Another of the orphans, Martha, was given over to the care of Mrs. Eliz. Holt, widow. This suggests that Martha Harris Williams Thorn died c. 1685, perhaps during the birth of Martin Thorn Jr. When Martin died he made mention of wife named Margaret and a son named Martin. He may have remarried but we don't know that Margaret was Martin Jr.'s mother. Martin Jr. may have been born to Martha and was old enough when Martin Sr. died that it warranted leaving all his "waring apparrell" and "white hat" to his son. Martin also appeared in the Southwarke and Lawnes Creek lists.

 

Martha ??[1]. She died about 1685.

 

Martin Thorn and Martha ?? were married in 1676. They had the following children:

 

3.   i.    Martin Thorn[1, 3] was born about 1685.

 

Margaret ??[5].

 

Martin Thorn and Margaret ?? were married after 1685. They had no children.

Generation 3

 

3.          Martin Thorn-3 (Martin-2, Thomas-1)[1, 3] was born about 1685.  

 

In May 1753, Surry County, a deed was transferred from John Ruffin & wife Martha to Roger Delk for 200 acres in Southwarke Parish "whereon Thomas Thorne now lives." David Williams' land lay in this area, and it is possible this Martha is his daughter, the stepchild of Martin Thorn who married Margaret Williams. Martin Jr. then disappears and we do not have a link between him and the Thomas Thorn born 1707 who married Mary Lee. However, it seems likely that our Thorn line derived from Thomas and Mary (Lee) Thorn. 

 

Martin Thorn and unknown spouse married. They had the following children:

 

4.     i. Thomas Thorn[1] was born in 1707 in Bath, Northampton Co, NC. He married Mary Lee. ii. Martin Thorn.

Generation 4

 

4.    Thomas Thorn-4 (Martin-3, Martin-2, Thomas-1)[1] was born in 1707 in Bath, Northampton Co, NC. 

 

Thomas Thorn married Mary Lee based on the research of Dr. James Lawler, a Lee researcher. Mary Lee's father, Dr. John Lee, lived in Warwick Co. on the north side of the mouth of the James River. The James River area was a busy community with much commercial activity. Southwarke and Lawne's Creek Parishes are just below Hog Island which juts into the river and adjacent to the border of Isle of Wight Co, VA. The Thorn family which lived in this area is most likely the family of our Martin Thorn who was born abt 1737.

 

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/THORN/1999-03/0921644546

From: Pam Reid <pamreid@dc.jones.com>

Subject: Thorn/Lee Information  

Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 23:22:26 -0500

 

(Some additonal information has been added to the chronology by Robert M. Sharp)

 

This was sent to me by Barbara Broman. Though this is primarily concerned with trying to prove the link between the Thorn and Lee families, there is a lot of great info here that might help some of you or at least give you a clue on where to start to begin looking for your elusive Thorn ancestor (and they seem to have ALL be elusive-BG).

 

Currently, the link between Thomas and his son Martin Thorn II is speculative.

 

In 1705 Mary Lee was born to Dr. John and Mary Lee, their only daughter. Dr. John and wife also had six sons; Joshua, Godfrey (who had

 

a son named Samuel), Richard, James, John and William. Dr. John Lee, born circa 1670 in Warwick/York Co. of Virginia, died sometime before 1738, perhaps before 1734. We are told by James Lawler's files that Dr. John's wife, Mary, remarried to a Thomas Thorn. Lawler also tells us that the daughter, Mary, married a Thomas Thorn. Whether the mother married the father of her daughter's husband, or whether there was confusion regarding the name Mary Lee, it is important that Lawler tells us that Mary (Lee) Thorn had two sons named John and Martin. We do not know if they were the only sons that Mary and Thomas Thorn had.

 

Chowan County, one of the original eight counties of North Carolina, was partitioned off in 1732 to form Bertie County.

 

In 1732 Edgecombe County had been partitioned off of Bertie County, although it was 1741 before the new county was formerly confirmed.

 

In August of 1739 in Bertie Co., Joshua Lee and wife sold 150 acres to William Battle of Chowan Co., The land lay on the north side of Indian Creek Swamp "to the former Virginia Line" at Watering Branch and lay adjacent to Thomas Thorn's land. The 150 acres was part of a patent granted in 1723 to John Lee deceased, and had been willed to Joshua Lee, his son. In November of 1739 in "Bertie Co." Godfrey Lee of that county sold land to Thomas "Torne" of Bertie Co. The land lay along Indian Creek and had been patented to Godfrey and Rick Lee in 1734.

 

It was in 1741 that Northampton Co. was partitioned off of Bertie County. In May of 1741 in Northampton County, Thomas and Mary Thorn of that county sold 100 acres to William Battle of same county. The land lay on the north side of Indian Creek joining Henry Gay and other Battle lands, and was part of a patent to Mary's father in 1723. John Lee had left the land to his daughter Mary.

 

In 1748 in Northampton Co., John Thorn sold 145 acres to Thomas Thorn. The land lay on the south side of Indian Creek swamp and adjoined Godfrey Lee.

 

In 1752, Martin Thorn and Charles Lee were granted a patent for 550 acres in Edgecombe County of North Carolina on Little Swamp and Beaverdam Swamp.

 

In 1756, Samuel Lee was granted a patent on 225 acres on Little Prong of Town Creek and on both sides of Beaver Dam Swamp - "being the plantation where Martin Thorn lives." The record lists one of the sworn chain carriers as Joshua Lee, and Godfrey Lee had a son named Samuel.

 

In 1757, Samuel Lee (of Northampton County) sold 225 acres on the south side of Town Creek joining Beaverdam Swamp to Martin Thorn of Edgecombe County.

 

From Granville District of North Carolina 1748-1765 Hoffman

 

17 April 1579 236-3345-316 Wm Sherard,- 182 acres in Northampton Co, NC in parish of Northwest joining both banks of a marsh, the old line, Turkey creek, a small island, both sides of Miry Marsh and the river (Meherrin) to John (X) Thorn. (This was resurvey for Wm Sherard upon old patent for 300 acres, the 182 acres being sold to John Thorn.) The land lay in an area that was partitioned off in 1760 to form Hertford Co.)

 

From Granville District of North Carolina 1748-1765 Hoffman

 

17 April 1759 236-3556-319 John Thorn, , 421 acres on north side of Meherrin River, join Chambers corner, the Pocoson, Wm Taylor, Henry Hill, and the said river. (The Meherrin River begins in Brunswick Co, VA and flows south into Northampton Co, NC and into the Chowan River and on into Chowan Bay.)

 

In 1760 a patent in Edgecombe Co. was granted for land adjoining Thomas Thorn. The land lay in "Halifax County parish of Edgecombe."

 

Aug 8, 1761 Earl Granville grant to Martin Thorn of Edgecombe Co, planter, a tract of 495 acres on Little Swamp adjoining Joseph Stringfield and his own line. Wit: J. Montfort Deed Book 1-161

 

In 1762 a land transfer on Great Swamp of Town Creek and the Little Swamp mentioned adjoining owners Joshua Lee and Martin Thorn.

 

March 23, 1763 Francis Whitney of Edgecombe Co, to Martin Thorn of same, for 20lb a 375 acre plantation adjoining Mead and said Thorn. Wit: Jno. Thomas, Theophilus Thorn, Charles Williams. Deed Book C-63

 

A Northampton Co. deed transfer in 1769 mentions it as lying adjacent to the Hosky Pocoson and Thomas Thorne.

 

July 31, 1769 Dempsie (X) Watson of Edgecombe Co. to John Thorn, son of Martin Thorn, of same, for 35lb Proc money a tract of 225 acres on the south side of Town Creek on Gay's Branch, it being a tract granted to Solomon Watson by deed bearing date June 1, 1762 and descended to said Dempsie Watson by the death of Solomon Watson as heir to the deceased. Wit: Martin (X) Thorn, Benja.

Brand, James Cohoon. Deed Book D-136

 

Feb 26, 1770 John (X) Thorn of Edgecombe Co. to Thomas Page of same, for 36lb. Proc. money a tract of 225 acres on Gay's Branch near the road. Wit: Charles Lee, Martin Thorn. Deed Book D-242. This is the same property in previous cited transaction. John turned a profit of one pound.

 

In 1773, Martin Thorn sold 200 acres of land he had bought in 1763 on Beaver Dam Branch. (*added* - pocoson means swamp and Ahoskie town appears on modern maps in Hertford Co. NC.)

 

In 1775 Edgecombe Co. became situated in the midst of a strongly loyalist section during the mounting strife preceding the Revolution. The Whigs or patriots managed to maintain control of the area. In 1777, Nash County was partitioned off of Edgecombe Co. In 1781 Tarboro in Edgecombe County was briefly occupied by British troops and civil war erupted between patriots and loyalists in the county for eighteen months.

 

On December 1 of 1782, Edgecombe Co. DB E p. 257 Nicholas Thorn bought 200 acres on the Great Swamp adjoining Joseph Farmer. On December 26 of 1782 Edgecombe Co. DB-E p. 232 Nicholas Thorn sold 200 acres lying on the west side of Wiggins Branch (near Great Swamp). Nicholas made his mark to sign.

 

In 1782 in Edgecombe Co. a state grant of land was given to Thomas Farmer for land on Gay's branch adjoining Martin and John Thorn and Joshua Lee.

 

In 1783 Nicholas Thorn received a state grant DB 4 p. 571 for 80 acres land adjoining Thomas Farmer and John Thorn.(Martin b. 1780 married Polly Coppage whose sister married Asahel Farmer, a neighbor)

 

In 1784 Nicholas turned around and sold the land on the Great Swamp of Town Creek.

 

Then, in 1785 Nicholas bought 125 acres on Little Swamp adjoining Thomas Farmer and Martin Thorn; and another 65 acres on Beaverdam Swamp from John Thorn. Also in 1785 Martin Thorn sold 550 acres to

 

Dec 31, 1785 DB 4-414 MARTIN (X) THORN of Edgecombe Co. to NICHOLAS THORN, son of John Thorn "late" of Hertford Co, for 220 lbs current money a tract of 550 acres in the fork of Beaver Dam Swamp and the Little Swamp adjoining Jacob Page, including one acre on the east side of Beaver Dam Swamp cleared by said Martin Thorn for a mill. Part of this land was granted to Samuel Lee by deed bearing date May 7, 1752 and part to Martin Thorn since that time. Wit: Cha. Lee, John (X) Thorn. Deed Book 4-414

 

(ed. This is Martin Thorn (1737) and John Thorn (1735), Nicholas (b. ??) is brother of John??)

 

Dec 31, 1785 DB 4-413 JOHN (X) THORN of Edgecombe Co. to NICHOLAS THORN of same, , for 20 pds. A tractg of 550 acres on the Beaver Dam Swamp adjoining Martin Thorn and Francis Whitney. Wit: Cha Lee, Martin (X) Thorn. Deed Book 4-413

 

(ed. Nicholas "son of John Thorn late of Hertford County." seems to be meant to differentiate between this Nicholas and another?)

 

(ed. This is John Thorn (1735), Nicholas ( ) is son of Martin (1737) who married Rachel Brown. Their children were Thomas, Elizabeth, and Martin. This younger Martin is the grandson who received from Martin Thorn (1737))

 

This land lay on Beaver Dam Swamp adjoining Martin Thorn, Cattail Branch and Little Swamp at the fork with Beaver Dam Swamp "at the place the said Martin Thorn cleared for a mill" and had been granted to Martin Thorn and Samuel Lee plus a later grant to said Thorn. Witnesses were John Thorn and Charles Lee. (Is this John Thorn different than the John Thorn late of Hertford County?) [**1976 newspaper on White's Mill on Little Swamp, "The remains of the old dam are still visible west of the bridge over White Swamp. The site can be reached by going [east] on Route 42 about 6.2 miles from the county courthouse and then about 2 miles on a right angle to the left [Cattail Road?]." That's not terribly far from Redmon Road. I got a map from the voting registration office there in Wilson County. (*added* Mrs. Joanne Thorn is doing research on her husband's family. They live on Redmon Rd. and he is a descendent of the Martin Thorn whose parents were Nicholas and Rachel Thorn.) In 1788, Nicholas Thorn's will was probated in Edgecombe County. In 1789 his widow deeded to her sons, Martin and Thomas, the home plantation on the south side of Little Swamp adjoining Thomas Farmer and Martin Thorn. (Given a minimum of one year per child and 20 years for marriage age, this Nicholas would have to be born before 1766)

 

March 27, 1786 Deed Book 4-412 Charles Lee of Edgecombe Co to Hardy Thorn for 126/13/4 the 500 acre plantation whereon said Lee then lived on the north bank of Autrey's Creek at the mouth of the Watery Branck adjoining Cornelius Autry, John Stokes, Thomas Mewborn, and Jesse Lee. Part of the land was granted to Cornelius Autry by deed bearing date June 15, 1761 and part granted to Charles Lee on Oct 9 1783. Wit: Jesse Lee, Martha (X) Lee. This Hardy Thorn might be a son of John Thorn (b 1735)

 

In 1789 Augustin Coppage bought land on the north side of the prong of Town Creek. His daughter Mary was later married to Martin Thorn, b. 1780.

 

In 1790 there were court actions involving Nicholas' widow, Rachel, who had remarried to a William White. In a case with Thorn vs. White the judgment went against White, and the other case had to do with White's presence on a jury deciding on a title when he was an interested party. The interest White was claimed to have was his intermarriage with Rachel, widow of Nicholas Thorn who was son to the said Martin Thorn. [This contradicts the 1785 court case where Martin referred to Nicholas as son of John Thorn.]

 

The 1793 will of Augustin Coppage left his plantation to his wife Wilmoth and after her death to children Charlot, Griffin, Mary and Augustin. Then in 1795, Nicholas Thorn "of Edgecombe Co." sold some acres north of Little Swamp. And in 1796 Nicholas and Sarah Thorn sold more acres on Cattail Swamp adjoining Martin Thorns old Mill place, Little Swamp with the fork of Beaver Dam Swamp...

 

In March of 1797 Nicholas bought 300 acres on the south side of Town creek adjoining his own land, and in December sold 300 acres on the south side of Town Creek, land at the mouth of and along Beaver Dam Swamp. Also in December, Nicholas sold 400 acres south of Town Creek adjacent his own land and Theophilus Thomas.

 

In May of 1797 Martin Thorn bought 100 acres on the south side of Beaverdam Branch adjoining his own land, and the witness was Nicholas Thorn. And in November Martin received a governor's grant of land on the south side of Town Creek adjoining his own land.

 

In 1799 Martin Thorn bought 200 acres adjoining his own land, and received a governor's grant of 100 acres south of Town Creek, south of Beaverdam Branch on both sides of Cabin Branch and adjoining his own land.

 

The 1800 census of Edgecombe County, North Carolina, lists Martin Thorn, born before 1755, married with two children; William Thorn, born before 1755, married with four children; Theophilus Thorn, born between 1774 and 1784, married with one child. The Nash Co. census lists a Nicholas Thorn born between 1755 and 1774, married with two children. (That would place Nicholas in the generation of Martin's children.)

 

In 1800 William White applied to establish a mill on Little Swamp affecting the land belonging to the orphans Thomas and Martin Thorn whose guardian was Lemuel Daniel.

 

On January 19 of 1803 Martin Thorn bought 105 acres south of Town Creek adjoining his own land and Martin Thorn, Jr. Witnessed by Thomas Thorn and John Williams. Martin Sr. and Martin Jr. then sold the 105 acres to Eady Thorn, daughter of Martin Sr., witnessed by John Thorn and Thomas Thorn. Eady was also given furnishings, livestock, etc. In February Court, the gift of 105 acres to Eady Thorn was recorded as signed by Martin Thorn Sr. (his mark) and by Martin Thorn (signature) and witnessed by John Williams and Lewis Todd.

 

On January 20 of 1803 Martin Thorn (his mark) of Edgecombe Co. deeded to Martin Thorn Jr "his grandson" for love, horses, cattle and all rest of his estate, both real and personal. Martin signed with his mark. Witnesses were John Williams and Lewis Todd.

 

In February of 1804 a tract of 63 acres was surveyed for Thomas Thorn and Martin Thorn Jr. Sworn Chain carriers were Micajah Petteway and Martin Thorn Sr. (The upper right corner of this document is ripped and illegible.) Then in September of 1804 a governor's grant patented 63 acres south of Town Creek to Thomas Thorn and Martin Thorn Jr. Witnesses were Nathan Etheridge, Micajah Pettaway and Thomas Page. This would appear to be the first record where the previous Martin Thorn known as Junior, after Martin Thorn Sr.'s death, became Martin Thorn Sr.

 

The 1810 census of Edgecombe Co. does list a Martin Thorn Jr. born between. 1784 and 1794; and a Thomas Thorn b. 1765-1784; an Edy Thorn b. before 1765 and a Martin Thorn "S" b. 1765-1784. The Martin Jr. was married but with no children and the Martin Sr was married with three sons and a daughter. Land records document that Martin and Mary (Coppage) Thorn had sons Thomas Theophilus and John C. and daughter Elizabeth between 1800 and 1810.

 

In 1806 there was a sale of land made jointly by the children of Mary (Taylor) Thorn. This action presumably followed the death of Mary and the distribution of the land she inherited from her father, William Taylor. Those selling the land are listed as William, Beady, Mary, Winney, Martin, Taylor, Elizabeth and Theophilus. Only Taylor and Martin signed, the others made their mark, with the exception of Theophilus who had already left the state for South Carolina. The land sold here was located near the boundary between Nash and Edgecombe Counties but in Edgecombe County on the north side of Beach Run. Martin Thorn's signature thus establishes him as the son of William and Mary (Taylor) Thorn, and it follows that William Thorn was son of Martin Thorn. Since William was not mentioned in 1803 when Martin Thorn was deeding property away, he must have died before that year. We have established that Martin Thorn Sr. had children John, William and Edea, with only Edea living in 1803. It is suggested that this list could include Nicholas who was also gone by 1803; but the 1785 deed transfer had Martin Thorn selling land to Nicholas "son of John Thorn late of Hertford County." The John Thorn "late of Hertford County" might be recently arrived from Hertford County, or might be the late John Thorn of Hertford County, it is unclear. One wonders why Martin Thorn Sr. would have endowed his grandson Martin Jr. but not a grandson from his son John. John Thorn's land deals in 1769 and 1770 appear to be the last we heard of him in Edgecombe County. The Nicholas Thorn who in 1795 sold land north of Little Swamp, and in 1796 sold land on Cattail Swamp may be a son of Martin Sr's son John. And the Hardy Thorn who moved briefly through the land records of Nash County and into Wayne County may be the brother of Nicholas, they both having been born between 1755 and 1774.

 

In 1811 Edea Thorn sold 105 acres on the south side of Town Creek to Martin Thorn, witnessed by Thomas Thorn and John Horn. The deed was proved in November court 1816 by Thomas Thorn. In September of 1814 Martin and Mary Thorn sold 200 acres on both sides of the prong of Town Creek that Mary (Coppage) Thorn had inherited from her brother's estate in Northumberland Co. of Virginia.

 

In 1816 Martin Thorn Jr. and brother Thomas divided the land deeded them by their mother on the south side of Little Swamp. Thomas took the west side and Martin took the east side. Then in 1817 Thomas Thorn sold his land to his brother. Thomas supposedly left Edgecombe Co. and settled in Pitt County.

 

In the 1820 census of Edgecombe Co., Martin Thorn Jr. had two sons under 10 and two daughters under 10. Martin Thorn Sr. had four sons under 10 and one son between 19-15, one daughter under 10 and one daughter 10-15. In 1821 Martin Thorn sold more Coppage land inherited by his wife from her mother Wilmoth (Lusford) Coppage. In 1826 Martin Thorn began to buy land in Nash County, 590 acres from Claborn Mann and 400 acres from Augustin Mann. In 1827 Martin sold Edgeombe Co. land to his wife's sister and brother-in-law. Some 550 acres in Edgecombe County on Hominy Swamp and Bloomery Swamp was given in 1828 to sons John C. and Theophilus and daughter Elizabeth Owens. And in 1828 more land was sold in Edgecombe Co. by Martin and Mary.

 

The 1830 census reflected the geographical division of the two Martin Thorns. Martin Thorn b. 1780 was listed in Nash Co. and Martin Thorn b. 1784 was listed in Edgecombe Co. Martin and Mary's daughter, Elizabeth, had already been married in 1828. The son Theophilus Thomas disappeared from records, but son John C. married in 1833, bonded by his brother Augustin.  Augustin in 1834 was bonded by his brother Martin when he married Martha Bundy. Martha's sister Mariah Bundy had married Taylor Thorn in 1832 and they were bonded by John C. Thorn. Taylor and Mariah almost immediately left North Carolina to settle in Indiana. John C. Thorn died in 1835 and Berry died in 1850.

 

Martin and Mary Thorn lived on in Nash County with their family and most if not all the land transfers by a Martin Thorn occurred in Edgecombe County. In 1857 Martin Thorn sold 100 acres south of the Bloomery Mill adjoining Augustine Thorn. Martin Thorn, born 1780, died in Nash County in 1857. His son, Martin, died in Virginia, serving in the Confederate Army during the Civil War in 1862. Only Augustine and Raymond remained on their family lands. Raymond served in the CSA army but was parolled and returned home to live out his life naturally.

 

In 1870 Raymond sold 125 acres to his sisters Polly Wilmoth and Peninah. In 1878 the remaining descendents of Martin and Polly Thorn sold 189 acres to Thomas R. Lamm. T.R. Lamm had married Martin and Polly's son(Berry)'s daughter Nancy. Mr. Lamm also fathered a family with Martin and Polly's son(Martin)'s daughter Catherine.  

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Pam Reid in Virginia http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/THORN/1999-03/0921644546

 

Mary Lee daughter of John Lee and Mary ??[6] was born about 1705.

 

In 1705 Mary Lee was born to Dr. John and Mary Lee, their only daughter. Dr. John and wife also had six sons; Joshua, Godfrey (who had a son named Samuel), Richard, James, John and William. Dr. John Lee, born circa 1670 in Warwick/York Co. of Virginia, died sometime before 1738, perhaps before 1734. We are told by James Lawler's files that Dr. John's wife, Mary, remarried to a Thomas Thorn. Lawler also tells us that the daughter, Mary, married a Thomas Thorn. Whether the mother married the father of her daughter's husband, or whether there was confusion regarding the name Mary Lee, it is important that Lawler tells us that Mary (Lee) Thorn had two sons named John and Martin. We do not know if they were the only sons that Mary and Thomas Thorn had. 

 

Thomas Thorn and Mary Lee were married. They had the following children:

 

5.      i.   Martin Thorn[1] was born about 1737 in Bath, Northampton Co, NC[1]. He died about 1803 in Edgecombe Co, NC. 

 

ii.   John Thorn[1] was born about 1735.

 

Homer Loyd Research   See THORN-033    May 28, 2010

 

Homer S. Loyd of Port Arthur, TX,at the age of 85, sent me a wonderful letter with supportive information suggesting that William Thorn (b. 1754) is the son of John Thorn (b. 1735), and not the son of Martin Thorn (b. 1737) as other researchers have suggested.   John Thorn is the son of Thomas Thorn (b. 1707) and Mary Lee (b. 1705).  Homer and his brother Cecil Roy Loyd (died 1991) are descendants of William Bennett Thorn (1816-1867) who left Nash Co, NC in 1853 to move to Gonzales County, TX.   The brothers have researched the Thorn family history over several decades. 

 

Homer's theory is John Thorn (1735) married Ann ??  in Bath, Northampton Co, NC and they had several children, including our William (1754)   Various tax lists, deeds of Edgecombe Co, census, and Revolutionary War records,  indicate John Thorn had the following children; William Thorn, Thomas Thorn, John Thorn, Hardy Thorn, Nicholas Thorn, and possible Theophilus Thorn. 

 

The following two records refer to a John Thorn in Northampton Co, NC.

 

From Granville District of North Carolina 1748-1765 Hoffman

17 April 1579 236-3345-316  Wm Sherard,- 182 acres in Northampton Co, NC in parish of Northwest joining both banks of a marsh, the old line, Turkey creek, a small island, both sides of Miry Marsh and the river (Meherrin) to John (X) Thorn.  (This was resurvey for Wm Sherard upon old patent for 300 acres, the 182 acres being sold to John Thorn.)

 

From Granville District of North Carolina 1748-1765 Hoffman

17 April 1759  236-3556-319 John Thorn, , 421 acres on north side of Meherrin River, join Chambers corner, the Pocoson, Wm Taylor, Henry Hill, and the said river. (The Meherrin River begins in Brunswick Co, VA and flows south into Northampton Co, NC and into the Chowan River and on into Chowan Bay.)

 

Homer Loyd believes the William Taylor mentioned in the 2nd tract of land that John Thorn purchased is the father of Mary Taylor who married our William Thorn (b 1754).

 

Hertford Co, NC was created in 1759 from Northampton, Bertie, and Chowan Counties.  The 2 tracts of land John Thorn purchased in1759 on the north side of the Meherrin River were relocated into Hertford Co, NC.

 

John and Martin Thorn were both in the same area of Edgecombe Co, NC at the time of the 1790 Census.  However, William had just recently arrived from Hertford Co, NC.   The following to transaction were recorded the same day in Edgecombe Co, NC. 

 

from Abstracts of Edgecombe County, NC 1783-1788 - Abstracts of Deed Book 4  Pg 323

 

DB 4-414 MARTIN (X) THORN of Edgecombe Co. to NICHOLAS THORN, son of John Thorn "late" of Hertford Co, Dec 31, 1785 for 220 lbs current money a tract of 550 acres in the fork of Beaver Dam Swamp and the Little Swamp adjoining Jacob Page, including one acre on the east side of Beaver Dam Swamp cleared by said Martin Thorn for a mill.  Part of this land was granted to Samuel Lee by deed bearing date May 7, 1752 and part to Martin Thorn since that time.  Wit:  Cha. Lee, John (X) Thorn. 

 

Homer believes this is Martin Thorn (1737) and John Thorn (1735), and Nicholas (b. ??) is brother of John (1735)

 

DB 4-413 JOHN (X) THORN of Edgecombe Co. to NICHOLAS THORN of same, Dec 31, 17895, for 20 pds. A tract of 65 acres on the Beaver Dam Swamp adjoining Martin Thorn and Francis Whitney.  Wit: Cha Lee, Martin (X) Thorn.

 

Homer believes this is John Thorn (1735), Nicholas is son of Martin (1737) who married Rachel Brown.  Their children were Thomas, Elizabeth, and Martin.   This younger Martin is the grandson who received from Martin Thorn (1737).  The first record tries to distinguish Nicholas of ďson of John Thorn late of Hereford County from some other John.  The second record makes the distinction that Nicholas is of Edgecombe Co.  This implies they are speaking of 2 different Nicholasís and 2 different Johnís.  However, I could not follow Homer's logic in determining that our William is son of John Thorn (b 1735).  I did not think there was sufficient evidence to overturn the previous determination that William is son of Martin Thorn (b 1737).  

 

iii.   Thomas Thorn.

 

iv.   Nicholas Thorn.

 

Generation 5

 

5.    Martin Thorn-5 (Thomas-4, Martin-3, Martin-2, Thomas-1)[1] was born about 1737 in Bath, Northampton Co, NC[1]. He died about 1803 in Edgecombe Co, NC. 

 

This is the first generation of Thorns for which there is strong evidence that this is indeed our Thorn lineage.

 

The THORN line is first found in Edgecombe County in 1752 when Martin THORN and Charles LEE jointly bought land. It is possible that this Martin was the son of Thomas THORN and Mary LEE of Northampton County, NC. In fact, there is a record in the FHC submitted by James H.L. Lawler c/o Mary I Lawler that states: Thomas Thorn, b. abt. 1705, Bath, Northampton , N.C. who married Mary Lee b. abt. 1705, Bath, Northampton, N.C. are the parents of Martin THORN, b. abt. 1735, Bath, Northampton, M.C. and John Thorn b. abt. 1737, Bath, Northampton, M.C. The record did not state sources and to date, attempts to contact the Lawlers concerning their sources have not been successful. Mary LEE was the daughter of Dr. John Lee and had a brother named Joshua LEE.

 

Granville District of North Carolina 1748-1763, Land Grants, Vol. I. by Hofmann: 932m pg. 221

 

Samuel Lee received a land grant 7 May 1756 for 225 acres in Edgecombe County in Edgecombe Parish on the Little Prong of Town Creed (and) on both sides of Beaver Dam Swamp - being the Plantation where Martin Thorn lives. One of the Sworn Chain Carriers was Joshua Lee, probably Mary (Lee) Thorn's brother.

 

Abstracts of Deed - Edgecombe Precinct - Edgecombe County, NC 1732-1758 by Hofmann: pg. 222 Then on the 2ms of Nov. 1757, Samuel Lee of Northampton Co. sold to Martin Thorn of Edge. Co. for 15 pounds current money of VA. the same 225 acres on the south side of Town Creek, joining Beaverdam Swamp.

 

From these land transactions, we can see clearly that there were close ties between the THORN and LEE families. We find that in 1741 Thomas and Mary (LEE) THORN sold Northampton land to William BATTLE and Thomas and Mary's son, Joshua, sold "Bertie County" land to William BATTLE. It seems probable that William II and John II BATTLE were brothers and that Mary BATTLE and Elisha BATTLE were descended from the brothers. The land Joshua LEE sold had at one time been granted to John LEE, his grandfather. So, we have close relationships between the THORNs, LEEs, BATTLEs, and TAYLORs.

 

It is possible that the Martin THORN was a descendent of the William THORN who first appeared in America before 1653 in Gloucester County, VA. After this William's estate was settled in 1666, two young men, Martin and William THORN, turn up in Surry County, VA. There were three Martin THORNs in Colonial Surry County. Martin III died there in 1695 and we lose the thread at that point. We don't pick it up again until we find Martin THORN purchasing land in Edgecombe County in 1752.

 

The borders of Edgecombe, Bertie, Granville, Halifax, Nash, Hertford and Johnston Counties were in a state of flux during these early years, so some attention has to be given to dates and boundaries. Johnston County, at that time, stretched in a crescent all the way to the Virginia border. A map that shows the location of Martin I's land in Surry County, VA illustrates how close Surry County's Southwark Parish was to the border with Isle of Wight. It is possible that our William Taylor was grandson to William Pope. William Pope's will was probated in Edgecombe County, but his son, Stephen, heired a plantation in Isle of Wight. So, this gives some evidence of the ties from Surry County, Virginia to Isle of Wight, Virgina to Northampton County, North Carolina to Edgecombe County, North Carolina. Looking at maps of Virginia and North Carolina for this time, it is easy to see the migration pattern that probably occurred. Sussex County was not terribly far from the NC border, and Isle of Wight was even closer. Given the state of flux of the county borders, the migration into N.C. could have been into any of the counties bordering VA in the general area of discussion, with Northampton being the most likely choice.

 

There are many missing links here and more research needs to be done in an attempt to prove some of the assumptions. Still, it is clear that there are close ties between the THORNs, LEEs, BATTLEs, POPEs and TAYLORs who lived in the same general area of North Carolina during the 1700s. source: http://www.reocities.com/~pamreid/thorn.html

 

?? ??.

 

Martin Thorn and ?? ?? married. They had the following children:

 

6.    i.    William Thorn[1, 7, 8, 9] was born about 1754 in VA. He died in 1790 in Edgecombe Co, NC.

 

ii.     John Thorn[1]. 

 

John was mentioned as a son in NC land transfers. 

 

iii.   Eady Thorn[1].  

 

Eady is mentioned as a daughter in court cases.

 

iv.   Nicholas Thorn[1] was born in 1730 in North Carolina, USA[1, 10]. He died in Feb 1789 in Edgecombe, North Carolina, USA[10]. 

 

Nicholas is mentioned as a son in a 1790 NC court case.

 

Generation 6

 

6.   William Thorn -6 (Martin-5, Thomas-4, Martin-3, Martin-2, Thomas-1)[1, 7, 8, 9] was born about 1754 in VA. He died in 1790 in Edgecombe Co, NC.

 

William THORN was probably the son of Martin THORN, Sr. This is an assumption based on a great deal of evidence. Martin THORN, Sr. left all of his property to Martin THORN, Jr. Court records state that Martin, Jr. was the grandson of Martin, Sr.

 

Census 1779 Hertford Co. NC had William Thorn age 10-40 no wife no children. This could have been the Wake Co. Wm Thorn as he was listed with John and Thomas Thorn. Three daughters and a wife were listed.

 

Hertford Co. NC Tax List of 1784, in "Capt. Grigories" list, was Will Thorn with 200 acres and 1 black poll. On the same page was listed Nicholas Thorn with 170 acres and no black poll. On the previous page were John and Thomas Thorn, Thomas having 623 acres and 2 black poll.

 

Census 1790 Edgecombe Co. Wm. Thorn m. 3 children 2 slaves From Swift Cr - Tar Riv area SW of Leggett. This would be near Beach Run 1790 census NC Edgecombe Co. had Wm Thorn b. before 1774 with one son b. 1774-1790.

 

In the 1800 census Wm Thorn was listed as over 45 (b. before 1755 with two sons 16-26 (b. 1774-84) and two daughters 10-16 (b. 1784-90). When Wm's father died, he left property to Wm's son, Martin Thorn IV and did not mention William. The William Thorn b. 1747 d. 1812 in Wake Co. NC who m.

 

Leah Stokes was probably from a parallel line of Thorns descending from the Surry/Isle of Wight

 

William Thorn. Many acres of land were inherited by the children of William and Mary (Taylor) Thorn. It seems that Mary's family lands were in the Nash Co. area and William's family lands were in the Edgecombe Co. area. Taylor, second born son and carrying his mother's family name, settled on the lands in Nash County. Martin heired Martin Sr.'s Edgecombe Co. lands but later sold his and his wife's lands there and moved into the part of Nash Co. that later became Wilson Co. Theophilus, William and Elizabeth migrated into South Carolina. William's son Martin was listed as a grandson in the will of Martin Thorn born 1735.

 

Edge Co Db 12, page 207, date of deed 28 Jan 1806, date recorded Nov. Ct. 1807, William Thorn, Beady Pope, Winifred Robertson, Theophilus Thorn, Martin Thorn, Taylor Thorn, Mary Pope, and Elizabeth Thorn, all of Edge Co. to Kinchen Taylor, of Nash Co. a tract of land on the north side of Beach Run beginning at a black gum in Beach Run then north to a white oak a corner then east along a line of William Pope's and Thomas Manning's to a hickory in Thomas Manning's line then south to a gum in Beach Run then up the said run to the beginning, supposed to be 100 acres, signed William Thorn (X), Beady Pope (X), Winney Robertson (X), Martin Thorn, Taylor Thorn, Mary Pope (X), Elizabeth Thorn (X), Wiley Robertson (X), Hardy Pope (X), Dempsey Pope (X), wit. Jonathan Price, Josiah Battle. FHC film 0018889

 

North Carolina Census, 1790-1890 about William Thorn

Name: William Thorn  

State: NC

County: Hertford County

Township: No Township Listed

Year: 1779  

Database: NC Early Census Index

Source Information: Jackson, Ron V., Accelerated Indexing Systems, comp.. North Carolina Census, 1790-1890 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1999.

 

1790 United States Federal Census about William Thorn

Name: William Thorn  

County: Edgecombe

State: North Carolina

Number of Free White Males Under 16: 1

Number of Free White Males 16 and Over: 1

Number of Free White Females: 4  

Number of Slaves : 2

Number of Household Members: 8

Source Citation: Year: 1790; Census Place: , Edgecombe, North Carolina; Roll: M637_7; Page: 391; Image: 232; Family History Library Film: 0568147.

 

1800 United States Federal Census about William Thorn

Name: William Thorn  

County: Edgecombe

State: North Carolina

Free White Males 16 to 25: 2

Free White Males 45 and Over : 1

Free White Females 10 to 15 : 2

Free White Females 45 and Over : 1

Number of Slaves: 1  

Number of Household Members Under 16 : 2

Number of Household Members Over 25 : 2

Number of Household Members: 7  

Source Citation: Year: 1800; Census Place: , Edgecombe, North Carolina; Roll: 30; Page: 247; Image: 249; Family History Library Film: 337906.

 

Mary Taylor daughter of William Taylor and Mary Battle[6, 9, 11, 12] was born about 1754 in Edgecombe Co, NC. She died before 1806.  

 

In 1806 there was a sale of land made jointly by the children of Mary (Taylor) Thorn. This action presumably followed the death of Mary and the distribution of the land she inherited from her father, William Taylor. Those selling the land are listed as William, Beady, Mary, Winney, Martin, Taylor, Elizabeth and Theophilus.

 

William Thorn and Mary Taylor married. They had the following children:

 

i.    Obedience Thorn[1, 13] was born in 1774 in Nash Co, NC[14]. She died in 1835[14].

 

My estimated date of birth for "Beady" (Thorn(e)) Pope is abt. 1774. I believe the heirs of William and Mary (Taylor) Thorn(e) in Deed Bk. 12, pages 206 & 207, Edgecombe Co., N. C., 28 Jan. 1806, were listed in the order of their birth: 1. William Thorn, 2. Beady Pope, 3. Winifred Robertson, 4. Theophilus Thorn, 5. Martin Thorn, b. ca. 1780, 6. Taylor Thorn, b. 30 Nov. 1782, 7. Mary Pope, 8. Elizabeth Thorn. I say this because of an article I read by Raymond A. Winslow, Jr. in the North Carolina Genealogical Society Journal, Vol. XXV, #3, August 1999.

 

I've not seen anything to indicate that "Beady" (Thorn(e)) Pope went to Robertson Co., TN. Her daughter Elizabeth "Betsy" Pope and her husband Richard Michael Rose went. Elizabeth "Betsy" (Pope) Rose was born 3 or 31 May 1802, Nash Co., N. C. and died 14 Dec. 1877, Orlinda, Robertson Co., TN. Elizabeth and husband are listed in the Robertson Co., TN Cemetery Records by Jean M. Durrett, Diane Williams & Yolanda Reid.

ref: http://news.rootsweb.com/th/read/THORN/1999-10/0939311527

 

ii.   Theophilus Thomas Thorn was born about 1774. He died in 1847 in Spartanburg District, SC. 

 

The Theophilus Thorn who is found in Spartanburg District, SC beginning in 1804 MUST be the same Theophilus Thorn found in the Edgecombe County census in 1800. If so, he was the son of William THORN and Mary TAYLOR.

 

1800 Edgecombe County, North Carolina Census, p. 247: Theophilus Thorn, 1 male to 10, 1 male to 26, 1 female to 26, 1 female to 45. (The male to 10 is probably Edwin, b. 1799, the female to 26 must be Jennie Pope, the female to 45 could be Jennie's mother???)

 

Edgecombe County, North Carolina DB12-206:

 

William THORN, Beady POPE, Winifred ROBERTSON, Theophilus THORN, Martin THORN, Taylor THORN, Mary POPE, Elizabeth THORN sold a tract of land jointly, the deed was also signed by Hardy POPE, Wiley ROBERTONS, and Dempsey POPE, Jan. 28, 1806

 

William THORN, Beady POPE, Winifred ROBERTSON, Theophilus THORN, Martin THORN, Taylor THORN, Mary POPE, and Elizabeth THORN were the children of William THORN and Mary TAYLOR. The land that they sold together in 1806 was inherited from their mother. This is the same tract of land that Mary TAYLOR inherited from her father, William TAYLOR (left a will in 1783, recorded 1786 in Edgecombe County, NC).

source: http://www.geocities.com/~pamreid/thorn.html

 

Theophilus does appear in the 1810 Spartanburg District Census (he does not appear in the index, which has led some to believe he was absent in the 1810 census, but an examination of the microfilm does find him residing in Spartanburg District in 1810).

 

He is found in Spartanburg District, South Carolina involved in a land transaction as follows:

 

Spartanburg County/District South Carolina, Deed Abstracts, Books A - T, 1785-1827 p. 399-400 Feb. 27, 1804 George Poole (Rutherford Co., NC) to David Pope (Spartanburg); for $200 sold 300 ac on waters of Pacolett and Broad Rivers; grant Jul. 5, 1788 to Tomas Sabb. Witness Theophelus Thorn and William Barr. Signed George Pope. With. oath Apr. 25, 1811 Theophelus Thorn to Leanard Adcock. Rac. Feb 2, (omitted)

 

The above gives more credence to the assumption that the Theophilus who is found in Edgecombe County in 1800 and this Theophilus are the same person. In the 1806 land transaction where the children of Mary Taylor Thorn sold the land they inherited from their mother, Theophilus was the only child who did not to sign the transaction. He must have been gone from the area by that time, which would explain the absence of his signature on that document.

 

1830 United States Federal Census about Theophilus Thorn

Name: Theophilus Thorn  

[Teophilas Thorn]

Home in 1830: , Spartanburg, South Carolina

Free White Persons - Males - 15 thru 19: 1

Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29: 1

Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59: 1

Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 1

Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 2

Free White Persons - Females - 50 thru 59: 1

Free White Persons - Females - 70 thru 79: 1

Free White Persons - Under 20: 2  

Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 3

Total Free White Persons: 8  

Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 8

Source Citation: 1830 U S Census: , Spartanburg, South Carolina, Page: 252; NARA Roll: M19-171; Family History Film: 0022505.

 

1840 United States Federal Census about Theophilus Thorn

Name: Theophilus Thorn  

County: Spartanburg

State: South Carolina

Free White Persons - Males - 15 thru 19: 1

Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: 1

Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 1  

Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 1

Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: 1

Free White Persons - Females - 60 thru 69: 1

Slaves - Females - 10 thru 23: 1  

Total - All Persons (Free White, Free Colored, Slaves): 7

Persons Employed in Agriculture: 3  

Free White Persons - Under 20: 3

Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2

Total Free White Persons: 6 Total Slaves: 1  

Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 7

Source Citation: Year: 1840; Census Place: , Spartanburg, South Carolina; Roll 162; Page: 515; Image: 335; Family History Library Film: 0022511.

 

iii.   William Thorn[7] was born about 1774. He died about 1820.  

 

William along with sister Elizabeth and brother Theophilus moved to SC in the early 1800s. They moved with a group of families including the brother of Theophilus's wife.

 

1803 Oct 11 N.C. Edgecombe Co. DB 11 p 271. William Thorn and Theophilus Thorn appear to have held a mortgage on land sold by William Robison of Edgecombe Co. to Wiley Robertson of Nash Co., ?acres in Edgecombe Co. adj. Taylor, Beach Run Swamp, Battle, Rose, Robertson and Briary Branch (a former grant to John Stalling). wit: James Stallings and Taylor Thorn.

 

iv.   Winifred Thorn[1, 7, 12] was born about 1778[11]. She died in 1820 in Robertson Co, TN[11].

 

Children of Winifred Thorn and Jesse Robertson are:

1.       Lewis8 Robertson9, born 1800 in Nash, North Carolina, USA9; died 13 Jul 1856 in Greenbriar, Robertson, Tennessee, USA9.

2.       Alexander Robertson9, born 15 Aug 1803 in Nash, North Carolina, USA9; died 26 Jan 1875 in Henderson, Knox, Illinois, USA9.

3.       Joseph Robertson9, born in Robertson, Tennessee, USA9.

4.       Polly Robertson9.

5.       William Robertson9.

6.        Obedience Robertson9, born 1802 in Virginia, USA9.

7.        Elizabeth Robertson9.

8.        Martha Robertson9.

9.        Robertson9.

10.     William Robertson9.

11.     William Robertson9.

 

7.

v.

Martin R. Thorn[7, 15, 16, 17] was born in 1780 in Edgecombe Co, NC[17]. He married Mary

 

 

'Polly' Coppage on 22 Aug 1814 in Perquimans Co, NC. He died about 1857 in Nash Co,

 

 

NC.

 

vi.

Taylor Thorn[18] was born on 30 Nov 1782. He died in 1854 in Nash Co, NC[11].

 

 

 

Nash County, North Carolina Vital Records Abstracts about Thorn, Taylor

 

 

Name: Thorn, Taylor

 

 

Birth Place: Nash CO., NC

 

 

Marriage Place: Nash CO., NC

 

 

Children: Redmond, John, William, Joseph, Theophilus, Martha, Mary, Temperance,

 

 

Others

 

 

Death Date: Winter 1853-54

 

 

Death Place: Nash CO., NC

 

 

Residence: Nash CO., NC

 

 

Source Information:

 

 

Herrin, Cynthia. Nash County, North Carolina Vital Records Abstracts [database on-line].

 

 

Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.

 

 

Original data: Families of Early North Carolina. 1909.

 

 

1820 United States Federal Census about Taylor Thorn

 

 

Name: Taylor Thorn

 

 

County: Nash

 

 

State: North Carolina

 

 

Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820

 

 

Free White Males - Under 10: 3

 

 

Free White Males - 10 thru 15: 1

 

 

Free White Males - 45 and over: 1

 

 

Free White Females - 10 thru 15: 2

 

 

Free White Females - 26 thru 44: 1

 

 

Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture: 2

 

 

Slaves - Females - 14 thru 25: 2

 

 

Free White Persons - Under 16: 6

 

 

Free White Persons - Over 25: 2

 

 

Total Free White Persons: 8

 

 

Total Slaves: 2

 

 

Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 10

 

 

Source Citation: 1820 U S Census: , Nash, North Carolina, Page: 426; NARA Roll:

 

 

M33_83; Image: 279.

 

1830 United States Federal Census about Taylor Thorn Name: Taylor Thorn  

Home in 1830: Dortches, Nash, North Carolina

Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1

Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: 2

Free White Persons - Males - 40 thru 49: 1

Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 1

Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: 1

Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 1

Free White Persons - Females - 40 thru 49: 1

Slaves - Males - Under 10: 2  

Slaves - Females - Under 10: 2

Slaves - Females - 24 thru 35: 1

Free White Persons - Under 20: 6

Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2

Total Free White Persons: 8 Total Slaves: 5  

Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 13

Source Citation: 1830 U S Census: Dortches, Nash, North Carolina, Page: 171; NARA Roll: M19-123; Family History Film: 0018089.

 

1850 Nash County, North Carolina Census, page 420  

Taylor Thorn 67 Farmer (our Taylor Thorn - b. November 30, 1782)

Margaret Thorn 63 (our Margaret "Peggy" Edwards Thorn - b. March 17, 1785) 

Temperance 27 Female  

Theophelus T or L 25 Male

Mary D. 19 Female

 

vii.     Mary Thorn[7] was born about 1784. She died on 08 Feb 1849 in Edgecombe Co, NC. 

 

viii.    Elizabeth A. Thorn was born in 1785. She died in 1880.

Generation 7

 

7.       Martin R. Thorn-7 (William-6, Martin-5, Thomas-4, Martin-3, Martin-2, Thomas-1)[7, 15, 16, 17] was born in 1780 in Edgecombe Co, NC[17]. He died about 1857 in Nash Co, NC.

 

         This Martin Thorn can be distinguished from his grandfather and his cousin by his ability to sign his name. The other two Martin Thorn's used marks for their seals. When Martin Sr. was alive, this Martin was called Jr., but when the Sr. died, this Martin was called Sr. and his cousin was called Martin Jr.

               

    1830 United States Federal Census about Martin R Thorn

    Name: Martin R Thorn

    Home in 1830: Eatmons, Nash, North Carolina

    Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 2

    Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1

    Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: 1

    Free White Persons - Males - 15 thru 19: 2

    Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29: 1

    Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59: 1

    Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 1

    Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 1

    Free White Persons - Females - 40 thru 49: 1

    Slaves - Females - 10 thru 23: 1

    Free White Persons - Under 20: 8

    Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2

    Total Free White Persons: 11

    Total Slaves: 1

    Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 12

    Source Citation: 1830 U S Census: Eatmons, Nash, North Carolina, Page: 200; NARA Roll: M19-123;

    Family History Film: 0018089.

 

1850 United States Federal Census about Martin R Thorn 

Name: Martin R Thorn

Age: 70

Estimated birth year: abt 1780

Birth Place: North Carolina

Gender: Male

Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Nash, North Carolina Family Number: 421

 Household Members: Name Age 

Martin R Thorn 70

Mary Thorn 70

Polly Wilmoth 25

Jincy Wilmoth 24

Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: , Nash, North Carolina; Roll M432_638; Page: 279A; Image: 236.

 

Mary 'Polly' Coppage daughter of Augustine Coppedge and Wilmoth Lunsford[15, 16, 19] was born in 1786 in Edgecombe Co, NC[19]. She died about 1867 in Person Co, NC.  

 

MARY COPEDG of Edgecombe Co., N. C. ; on 4 July 1790 Mary Coppage m. Samuel PEAD in Perquimans Co. ; she may have been Augustine's dau. Mary.

Pg 68 Coppage-Coppedge

 

1860 United States Federal Census about Mary Thorn 

Name: Mary Thorn

Age in 1860: 74 

Birth Year: abt 1786

Home in 1860: Old Fields, Wilson, North Carolina 

Gender: Female

Post Office: Wilson

Mary Thorn 74 Farmer Real estate $350 Personal Property  $50

Polly Thorn 35

Penina Thorn 30

Mary Coppage born 1786 could not be the wife of Samuel Peed married in Perquimmens Co, VA 0n July 4, 1790

 

from CHAPTER TEN: EPILOGUE

 

Three hundred years have elapsed since five Coppidges set sail from old England to settle in America; they represented not over three males in an English wood in 1298. Today there are not less than 1000 bearing their name in the U.S.A. Of descendants in the female line there are, by conservative estimate, 20,000. America has done well by the Coppedges, as, indeed, the whole world has done well, population-wise, by little England.

 

Coppages are likeable people, more interested, perhaps, in sociability than money, political preferment, military distinction, or hard work. They have answered many calls: French and Indian, Revolutionary, 1812, Mexican, Civil, Sioux, W.W. I, and W.W. II. They were with George Rogers Clark, George Washington, Daniel Boone, Mordecai Lincoln, Mad Anthony Wayne, Old Tippecanoe, George H. Thomas, Robert E. Lee, Admiral Dewey, and Dwight D. Eisenhower. Not fewer than 56 Coppages fought in the Confederacy from ten states - all eleven that seceded except Florida, Louisiana, and South Carolina, and from Missouri and Kentucky, which did not secede. At least 24 Coppages fought in the Union Army from the states of Indiana, Ohio, Illinois, Kentucky, and Missouri; more served from Kentucky for the Union and from North Carolina and Missouri for the Confederacy. Virginia Coppedges served as colorbearers for both Bedford and Culpeper Counties.

 

It is regrettable that so little is known of the Coppedge family of North Carolina; burnt courthouses and social chaos in that state seem to have taken their toll of records and family traditions. All Coppedges have readily responded to calls for family records except those of North Carolina, who have, with few exceptions, shown little interest in this history. They are of the same stock as Coppages of Maryland and Virginia, but their enthusiasm for family history is slight in comparison. For some reason Coppages have avoided settling in the two states of South Carolina and West Virginia, though numerous all around.

 

Every war sees a great increase in the number of Coppage enlistments. The records for World Wars I and II bewilder the student seeking to interpret them. Negro Coppages are numerous throughout the country, as the family held slaves in most Southern states, who assumed the name of the family. In these days of controversy over segregation, it is interesting to reflect upon the family quarrel of Wesley Coppage and Lucinda Carter, his wife, of Harrison County, Kentucky. Lucinda wanted the family slaves to be buried right in the family plot with white Coppages; but Wesley thought otherwise. So long as he lived the negroes were buried in a plot just outside the Coppage graveyard. He wanted his trusted servants near him, but not in with his wife and children.

 

Some may think that ostentation and family pride have inspired the present work. Far rather has it been prompted by a desire to understand just how a family transplanted to the New World got its start, took root, and grew until its branches reached into every state. Total impartiality has been practiced in the inclusion of Coppages in this book; some have many distinctions, others few. If they carry the genes inherited from a Coppage, and the family connection is traced to date, their line will be found herein.

 

Errors inevitably creep in from the work of so many contributors; a complete index has not been made, as this book is but the first step. Anyway, Coppages will know where to find their names; others will have to spend a little time hunting. Thousands of miles have been covered by the authors to amass this much material, which is only the top of the iceberg. Thousands more Coppages are hidden in the fastnesses of mountain and prairie from Chesapeake to Golden Gate, whose names have not yet turned up. Like Micawber in Dickens's immortal David Copperfield, we of the Coppedge Family Association are awaiting that happy eventuality.

pg 93-94 Coppage - Coppedge Family 1542-1955

 

Martin R. Thorn and Mary 'Polly' Coppage were married on 22 Aug 1814 in Perquimans Co, NC. They had the following children:

 

  i.     Theophilus T. Thorn[1] was born about 1805 in Nash Co, NC. He died.

 

         ii.      Elizabeth L. Thorn[6, 7, 20, 21] was born about 1806 in NC. She married Robert M. Owens on 05 May 1825 in Edgecombe Co, NC. She died in 1877 in McNairy Co, TN.

 

North Carolina Marriage Collection, 1741-2004 about Elizabeth L. Thorne

Name: Elizabeth L. Thorne

Spouse: Robert M. Owens

Marriage Date: 5 May 1825

Marriage County: Edgecombe

Marriage State: North Carolina

Source Vendor: County Court Records - FHL # 0296815-0296817

Source: Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT

Source Citation: Data Source: County Court Records - FHL # 0296815-0296817.

 

1850 United States Federal Census about Elizabeth Owens

Name: Elizabeth Owens

Age: 44

Estimated birth year: abt 1806

Birth Place: North Carolina

Gender: Female

Home in 1850 (City,County,State): District 3, McNairy, Tennessee

Family Number: 870

Household Members: Name Age

Robert Owens 46 NC

Elizabeth Owens 44 NC

Andrew Owens 23 NC

William Owens 16 TN

Malvina Owens 14 TN

Pennina Owens 12 TN

Margaret Owens 10 TN

Julia Owens 8  TN

Adaline Owens 6 TN

Robert Owens 1 TN

Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: District 3, McNairy, Tennessee; Roll

M432_888; Page: 63B; Image: 132.

 

1860 United States Federal Census about Elizabeth Owens 

Name: Elizabeth Owens

Age in 1860: 55 

Birth Year: abt 1805

Birthplace: North Carolina

Home in 1860: District 3, McNairy, Tennessee

Gender: Female

Post Office: Hatchy

Household Members: Name Age

Rob Owens 57

Elizabeth Owens 55

Malvina E Owens 22

Perina Owens 20

Margret L Owens 18

Judy A Owens 16

Adline Owens 15

Robt M Owens 11

Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: District 3, McNairy, Tennessee; Roll

M653_1262; Page: 390; Image: 378; Family History Library Film: 805262.

 

1870 United States Federal Census about Elizabeth Owens

Name: Elizabeth Owens

Birth Year: abt 1807

Age in 1870: 63

Home in 1870: District 3, McNairy, Tennessee

Race: White

Gender: Female

Post Office: Bethel Springs Household Members: 

Name Age

Elizabeth Owens 63

Margaret L Owens 30

Julia A Owens 28

Mary A Owens 26

Robt M Owens 21

Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: District 3, McNairy, Tennessee; Roll M593_1549; Page: 230B; Image: 465; Family History Library Film: 553048.

 

iii.  James Thorn was born in 1807. He died in 1808[22].

 

iv.  John C. Thorn[7] was born in 1807. He married Nancy Mercer on 29 Oct 1833 in Nash Co, NC. He died in Sep 1835[23].

 

Nash County, North Carolina Vital Records Abstracts about Thorn, John

Name: Thorn, John

Birth Place: Nash CO., NC

Marriage Date: 29 Oct 1833

Marriage Place: Nash CO., NC

Spouse: Nancy Mercer

Residence: Nash CO., NC

Herrin, Cynthia. Nash County, North Carolina Vital Records Abstracts [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.

Original data: Families of Early North Carolina. 1909.

 

v.  Augustin Thorn[15, 23, 24, 25] was born in 1813 in Nash Co, NC[23, 24, 25]. He married Martha Ann Bundy on 12 Aug 1834 in Nash Co, NC. He died in Oct 1862 in Lovettville, Virginia, United States[23]. 

 

Nash County, North Carolina Vital Records Abstracts about Thorn, Augustin

Name: Thorn, Augustin

Birth Place: Nash CO., NC

Marriage Date: 12 Aug 1834

Marriage Place: Nash CO., NC

Spouse: Martha A. Bundy

Residence: Nash CO., NC

Source Information:

Herrin, Cynthia. Nash County, North Carolina Vital Records Abstracts [database on-line].

Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Original data: Families of Early North Carolina. 1909.

 

30. Thorn, Augustine          Bundy, Martha Ann           12 Aug 1834        

Source: Nash County, NC - NC Marriages Database  

http://www.usgwarchives.org/copyright.htm                

 

1850 United States Federal Census about Augustin Thorn        

Name: Augustin Thorn                                      

Age: 38                                 

Estimated birth year: abt 1812                        

Birth Place: North Carolina                                              

Gender: Male                                      

Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Nash, North Carolina        

Family Number: 422                                         

Household Members: Name Age                    

Augustin Thorn 38                                             

Martha Thorn 24                                

Wilmoth Thorn 15                                              

Josiah Thorn 12                                  

Jane Thorn 10                                     

Selah Thorn 8                                      

Thomas Thorn 6                                 

Jno Thorn 3                                         

Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: , Nash, North Carolina; Roll M432_638;

Page: 279A; Image: 236.                                  

 

1860 United States Federal Census about Augustin Thorn

Name: Augustin Thorn

Age in 1860: 47

Birth Year: abt 1813

Home in 1860: Old Fields, Wilson, North Carolina

Gender: Male

Post Office: Wilson

Household Members: Name Age

Augustin Thorn 47

Martha A Thorn 41

Pally I Thorn 19

Cely Thorn 17

Thomas Thorn 14

John H Thorn 11

Mary A Thorn 9

Willie Thorn 7

Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Old Fields, Wilson, North Carolina; Roll M653_918; Page: 239; Image: 475; Family History Library Film: 803918.

 

8.

vi.

Taylor Arrington Thorn[7, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35] was born on 18 Apr 1814 in Nash Co, NC[26, 28, 29, 30, 31, 36]. He married Gulielma Mariah Bundy on 04 Dec 1832 in Nash Co, NC. He died on 19 Oct 1894 in Randolph Co, IN[36, 37].

vii.    Berry H. Thorn[12, 20] was born in 1820 in Nash Co, NC[23]. He married Marinda Sharp about 1846. He died in Jun 1850 in Nash Co, NC[23].

 

Berry Thorne died in June 1850, leaving daughters Nancy and Polly Thorne, and also the widow Marinda who married Martin Ramsey Thorn of Nash County on April 1, 1851. Marinda married her brother-in-law, Martin Thorn, and had several children by him, including Catherine. Marinda died in 1860 and Martin died of illness in 1862 while stationed in Virginia. The children were sort of farmed out to members of the family. Marinda's daughter by Berry, Nancy, married Thomas Ruffin Lamm. Thomas later began a menage a' trois by setting up in a nearby house, with Nancy's half-sister, Catherine. He fathered children by both women. Family accounts about this tell that Thomas was a very forceful man and was a law unto himself. It is legal fact that he took care of each of his children in his will, bestowing property on them. Much of downtown Wilson, NC once belonged to Thomas R. When Catherine became ill with cancer, Nancy took into her home to raise the children her husband had fathered. It must be remembered that these post Civil War times were troubled with economic disruption and a diminished male population.

 

1850 United States Federal Census about Berry Thorn

Name: Berry Thorn

Age: 30

Estimated birth year: abt 1820

Birth Place: North Carolina

Gender: Male

Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Nash, North Carolina

Family Number: 423

Household Members: Name Age

Berry Thorn 30

Rinda Thorn 25

Mary Thorn 4

Nancy Thorn 2

Martin R Thorn 25

Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: , Nash, North Carolina; Roll M432_638; Page: 279A; Image: 236.

 

viii.  Martin Ramsey Thorn[1] was born in 1824 in Nash Co, NC[23]. He married Marinda Sharp on 01 Apr 1851 in Nash Co, NC. He died in Oct 1862 in Lovettsville, Loudon, Virginia, United States[23].

 

Middle name is in dispute and may be Ross. Martin Thorn married Zina Lamb on January 21, 1845, but no children are of record. Martin's first wife divorced him. His second wife, Marinda 'Rinda' (Sharp) Thorn, widow of his brother Berry, died in childbirth in Sept. of 1860 leaving him with his brother's two daughters and his own four children to raise. In the 1860 census he was listed as owning 20 acres of improved land and 124 acres unimproved with a value of $1,432 and machinery valued at $15. On February 1, 1862, he enlisted in Company D, 2nd North Carolina State Troops Regiment, C. S. A., and after several months transferred to Company B of the same Regiment. He was taken very sick and died in October 1862 at Lovettsville, a little south of the Potomac River in the northernmost part of Loudon County, Virginia. 

 

Nash County, North Carolina Vital Records Abstracts about Thorn, Martin R.

Name: Thorn, Martin R.

Birth Date: 1822

Birth Place: Nash CO., NC

Marriage Date: 21 Jan 1845

Marriage Place: Nash CO., NC

Spouse: Zina Lamb Residence: Nash CO., NC Source Information:

Herrin, Cynthia. Nash County, North Carolina Vital Records Abstracts [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.

Original data: Families of Early North Carolina. 1909

 

Nash County, North Carolina Vital Records Abstracts about Thorn, Martin R.

Name: Thorn, Martin R.

Birth Date: 1828

Birth Place: Nash CO., NC

Marriage Date: 1 Apr 1851

Marriage Place: Nash CO., NC

Spouse: Rinda Thorn

Residence: Nash CO., NC

Herrin, Cynthia. Nash County, North Carolina Vital Records Abstracts [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.

Original data: Families of Early North Carolina. 1909.

 

1850 United States Federal Census about Martin R Thorn

Name: Martin R Thorn

Age: 25

Estimated birth year: abt 1825

Birth Place: North Carolina

Gender: Male

Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Nash, North Carolina

Family Number: 423

Household Members: Name Age

Berry Thorn 30

Rinda Thorn 25

Mary Thorn 4

Nancy Thorn 2

Martin R Thorn 25

Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: , Nash, North Carolina; Roll M432_638; Page: 279A; Image: 236.

 

1860 United States Federal Census about Martin R Thorn

Name: Martin R Thorn

Age in 1860: 36

Birth Year: abt 1824

Home in 1860: Old Fields, Wilson, North Carolina

Gender: Male

Post Office: Wilson

Household Members: Name Age

Martin R Thorn 36

Nancy Thorn 13

Mary Thorn 10

Enos Thorn 8

Catharine Thorn 6

Vester Thorn 4

Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Old Fields, Wilson, North Carolina; Roll

M653_918; Page: 247; Image: 490; Family History Library Film: 803918.

 

U.S. Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles about Martin Ramsey Thorn

Name: Martin Ramsey Thorn

Residence: Wilson County, North Carolina

Age at Enlistment: 40

Enlistment Date: 2 Jan 1862

Rank at enlistment: Private

Enlistment Place: Wilson County, NC

State Served: North Carolina

Survived the War?: No

 

Service Record: Enlisted in Company D, North Carolina 2nd Infantry Regiment on 01 Feb 1862.

Mustered out on 15 Oct 1862 at Lovelleville.

Birth Date: abt 1822

Sources: North Carolina Troops 1861-65, A Roster

Source Information:

Historical Data Systems, comp.. U.S. Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2009.

 

ix.   Mary 'Polly' Thorn was born in 1825 in NC[22]. She died after 1860[22]. 

 

x.    Peninah Thorn[12, 23] was born on 04 Dec 1827[23]. 

 

In the 1850 census it is transcribed as "Liney" but would be "Niney.".

 

1860 United States Federal Census about Penina Thorn

Name: Penina Thorn

Age in 1860: 30

Birth Year: abt 1830

Home in 1860: Old Fields, Wilson, North Carolina

Gender: Female

Post Office: Wilson

Household Members: Name Age

Mary Thorn 74

Polly Thorn 35

Penina Thorn 30

Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Old Fields, Wilson, North Carolina; Roll M653_918; Page: 248; Image: 493; Family History Library Film: 803918.

 

1870 United States Federal Census about Polly Trn

Name: Polly Thorn

Birth Year: abt 1820

Age in 1870: 50

Birthplace: North Carolina

Home in 1870: Old Fields, Wilson, North Carolina

Race: White

Gender: Female

Post Office: Stantonsburg

Household Members: Name Age

Willy Thorn 40  F NC

Penny Thorn 50  F NC

Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Old Fields, Wilson, North Carolina; Roll

M593_1166; Page: 526A; Image: 157; Family History Library Film: 552665.

Living next door to brother Raymond (Raymon) Thorn, Age does not match earlier census records. Can't determine who Willy Thorn is.

 

xi. Raymond Coppage Thorn[7, 23] was born in 1828. He married Elizabeth Atkinson about 1846. He died in 1875[23].

 

Raymond was variously listed also as Ramon and Ransom. In 1860 census he had 40 acres of improved land and 80 unimproved valued at $600, and machinery valued at $12.

 

1850 United States Federal Census about Raymond Thorn

Name: Raymond Thorn

Age: 22

Estimated birth year: abt 1828

Birth Place: North Carolina

Gender: Male

Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Nash, North Carolina

Family Number: 424

Household Members: Name Age

Raymond Thorn 22

Eliza Thorn 20

Henry Thorn 0

Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: , Nash, North Carolina; Roll M432_638; Page: 279A; Image: 236.

 

1860 United States Federal Census about Ransom Thorn

Name: Ransom Thorn

Age in 1860: 32

Birth Year: abt 1828

Home in 1860: Old Fields, Wilson, North Carolina

Gender: Male

Post Office: Wilson

Ransom Thorn 32

Eliza Thorn 28

William Thorn 10

Calvin Thorn 7

Penelope Thorn 5

Henry Thorn 1

Edith Lamm 18

Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Old Fields, Wilson, North Carolina; Roll M653_918; Page: 240; Image: 476; Family History Library Film: 803918.

 

1870 United States Federal Census about Raymon Thorne

Name: Raymon Thorne

Birth Year: abt 1827

Age in 1870: 43

Birthplace: North Carolina

Home in 1870: Old Fields, Wilson, North Carolina

Race: Black

Office: Stantonsburg

Household Members: Name Age

Raymon Thorne 43

Eliza Thorne 40

William Thorne 20

Calvin Thorne 15

Penny Thorne 13

Henry Thorne 11

Jesse T Thorne 7

Martha Thorne 4

Mary I Thorne 1

Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Old Fields, Wilson, North Carolina; Roll M593_1166; Page: 525B; Image: 156; Family History Library Film: 552665.

 

Generation 8  

8.   Taylor Arrington Thorn-8 (Martin R.-7, William-6, Martin-5, Thomas-4, Martin-3, Martin-2,

 

Thomas-1)[7, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35] was born on 18 Apr 1814 in Nash Co, NC[26, 28, 29, 30, 31, 36]. He died on 19 Oct 1894 in Randolph Co, IN[36, 37].

 

From the Scrapbook of my Aunt Winifred Kinsey excerpts of records compiled by Neva Hill

Taylor A. Thorn - My Grandfather by Neva Hill written 1953

 

TAYLOR A THORN was born April 18, 1814. Died Aug. 2nd, 1894. Lived to be 80 years old. Date of marriage 1832. Was married to GULAELMA MARIA BUNDY, in Guilford Co., N. Carolina.

 

They had eight children, five girls and three boys, Demaris (Met) Elizabeth, Jane, Orpha, David, Martin, Alice, and Griffa Taylor Thorn. There may have been others that died in infancy, not much is known of his people. The name seems to have originated in Finland. The local name was Thorn, personal name (Thorne). Somewhere along the "e" seems to have been dropped. We trace them into England on south to Wales, which seems to make them of Welsh descent.

 

They emigrated to North America, finally to North Carolina, Guilford County.

 

Taylor A. Thorn, unsatisfied at the time of his marriage after 3 days left North Carolina and came to Indiana, living mostly in Randolph County, (moving many times). His father was a slave owner and (reportedly) a heavy drinker, of which he (Taylor Thorn) disapproved very much. He and his wife came through in a one horse wagon and walked much of the way, living much as many of the early settlers of that day. Seemingly very poor in earthly goods, but a deeply religious man, he and his wife belonging to the Christian Church.

 

How well as a child I remember of his sitting on the steps of our humble home and singing the songs of Zion. That was in the older days and after the death of his wife in july 1886. After the death of his wife he lived with his (children) two sons David Thorn and Griffa Thorn, Jr. (Note : He also lived with the other children).  

 

He died at David Thorn's home August 2, 1894. Was buried beside his wife in the Gilead Cemetery. In his latter days he had a fall while staying with his daughter Demaris and struck his head on the ice which fall seemed to affect his mind, which never cleared before his death.

 

Of his father's family I know at this time very little. I don't know his father's or mother's names. I have three pictures of his brothers, one name not on picture, the other two are 'named' on the folder of pictures as Josiah and Thomas Elwood.

 

He had two children Jane and Orpha, who died while their children were young, another son Martin died in the Civil War in a hospital in New Orleans. He died of yellow fever, and was buried in a soldier cemetery there. I have a record of him, Martin V. B. Thorn Co. B 57th Ind. Veterans, New Orleans, La., July 7, 1865. This must have been the date of his death. This must have been another sad time in his life.

 

My grandfather and grandmother raised one of Orpha's children, Maria Carroll as their own child (she was about the age of my father Griffa T. Thorn) nursing them as twins. He and his wife Maria at one time kept a toll gate at the east part of Lynn, Ind. I remember (she being busy) gave permission to take the toll and raising and lowering the pole over the road and of accepting the few cents toll and giving it to my Grandmother. I was only a small girl at the time.

 

One son David Thorn was injured in the Civil War. Was thrown out of a train and left as dead with broken jaw which disfigured him for life. One other son, Griffa T. Thorn, misrepresented his age and entered the war at the age of 16. Was sent to Tennessee to guard a bridge, was there 6 months.  

 

This verse is on the tombstone of his and his wife Maria Thorn:

"Rest, Father, rest in quiet sleep

 

while friends in sorrow o'er yon weep.

There's sweet remembrance of the just,

Shall flourish when they sleep in Christ."

 

Monument in Mt. Gilead Cemetery in Greensfork Township, Randolph County, Ind.

 

How Taylor Thorn came by the middle name "Arrington" is presumed to be by familial relation. Taylor's wife, Mariah Bundy, had an uncle, Henry Vicks Jr., who married Elizabeth Arrington. But why would Taylor's parents name him Arrington? One possibility is that Martin III Thorn's wife was an Arrington.

 

Nash County, North Carolina Vital Records Abstracts about Thorn, Taylor

Name: Thorn, Taylor  

Birth Place: Nash CO., NC

Marriage Date: 4 Dec 1832

Marriage Place: Nash CO., NC 

Spouse: Maria Bundy

Residence: Nash CO., NC  

Source Information: Herrin, Cynthia. Nash County, North Carolina Vital Records Abstracts [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Original data: Families of Early North Carolina. 1909.

 

North Carolina Marriage Collection, 1741-2004 about Taylor Thorn  

Name: Taylor Thorn

Spouse: Maria Bundy  

Marriage Date: 4 Dec 1832

Marriage County: Nash

Marriage State: North Carolina

Source Vendor: County Court Records at Nashville, NC and FHL # 0422156 item 3

Source: County Court Records at Nashville, NC & Family His  

Source Citation: Data Source: County Court Records at Nashville, NC and FHL # 0422156 item 3.

 

32. Thorn, Taylor Arrington  Bundy, Gulaelma Mariah  12 Dec 1832  

Source: Nash County, NC - NC Marriages Database

http://www.usgwarchives.org/copyright.htm

 

1840 United States Federal Census about Taylor Thorn  

Name: Taylor Thorn

Township: Greenfork

County: Randolph

State: Indiana

Number of persons in household:

1 M 20-30; 2 F <5; 1 F 20-30; 1 Colored F 16-24

Source Citation: Year: 1840; Census Place: Greenfork, Randolph, Indiana; Roll 92; Page: 55; Image:

114; Family History Library Film: 0007729.

 

1850 United States Federal Census about Taylor Thorn  

Name: Taylor Thorn

Age: 36

Estimated birth year: abt 1814

Birth Place: North Carolina

Gender: Male

Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Greensfork, Randolph, Indiana

Family Number: 1710

Household Members: Name Age

Taylor Thorn 36

Mariah Thorn 35

Orpha Thorn 14

Damaris Thorn 12

David Thorn 9

Martin Thorn 7

Griffy Thorn 3

Mahala Hedgpeth 3

Elizabeth Thorne 0

Henry Horn 21

Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Greensfork, Randolph, Indiana; Roll M432_168; Page:

162B; Image: 325.

 

1860 United States Federal Census about Taylor Thern

Name: Taylor Thern  

Age in 1860: 45

Birth Year: abt 1815

Birthplace: North Carolina

Home in 1860: Franklin, Wayne, Indiana 

Gender: Male  

Post Office: Whitewater

Household Members: Name Age

Taylor Thern 45  

Maria Thern 40

Martin Thern 16

Griffin Thern 12

Elizabeth Thern 10

Alice Thern 8

Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Franklin, Wayne, Indiana; Roll M653_308; Page: 132;  

Image: 134; Family History Library Film: 803308.

 

1870 United States Federal Census about Taylor A Thorn

Name: Taylor A Thorn  

Birth Year: abt 1814

Age in 1870: 56

Birthplace: North Carolina  

Home in 1870: Greensfork, Randolph, Indiana

Race: White  

Gender: Male

Office: Winchester 

Household Members: Name Age

Taylor A Thorn 56  

Gula Ellma Thorn 54

Griffy S Thorn 23

Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Greensfork, Randolph, Indiana; Roll M593_354; Page: 322B; Image: 84; Family History Library Film: 545853.

 

1880 United States Federal Census about Taylor Thorn

Name: Taylor Thorn  

Home in 1880: Lynn, Randolph, Indiana

Age: 66  

Estimated birth year: abt 1814

 Birthplace: North Carolina

Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) 

Spouse's name: Maria  

Father's birthplace: North Carolina Mother's birthplace: North Carolina Occupation: Retired Farmer

Marital Status: Married

Race: White

Gender: Male

Cannot read/write:

Members: Name Age

Taylor Thorn 66  

Maria Thorn 65

Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Lynn, Randolph, Indiana; Roll T9_307; Family History Film: 1254307; Page: 272.3000; Enumeration District: 173; Image: 0385.

 

Obituary Abstract  

THORN Taylor - d. 1894 of senile debility b. N.C. He was 80yrs. of age. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~inrandol/obits/1885.htm

 

Gulielma Mariah Bundy daughter of David Bundy and Orpha Horn[20, 30, 38] was born on 17 Jun 1815 in NC[30, 36]. She died on 02 Apr 1886 in Randolph Co, IN[39].  

 

From the Scrapbook of my Aunt Winifred Kinsey excerpts of records compiled by Neva Hill

Gulalma Mariah Bundy Thorn by Neva Hill written 1953

 

Guliema Mariah (Bundy) Thorn - b. 17 Jun 1815 d. 19 Jul 1886 @ 64y of pneumonia.

 

She never went without a cap on her head, black for daywear, white for nightwear. She may have dressed otherwise in her younger years. As a small child I loved to follow her to some secluded spot where she would get out her tobacco from a pocket (sewed in a seam of her gown). She would press this tobacco, place it in a clay pipe & then sit very contentedly & smoke until the pipe went out. I always watched this procedure with much interest. She was a very gentle & kind woman, never smoked in public.

 

She had a round face & must have been very good looking when she was young. I have an old bonnet of hers made out of dark brown calico that had paper strips placed in the crown that could be taken out when the bonnet was washed. It came out over the face and had a long straight tail. Mariah made & wore this bonnet, anyone of good breeding in those days was not supposed to be tanned. Mariah was a very soft spoken & gentle woman. A good cook, she could get a meal (according to a friend) quicker than anyone they ever knew. She always baked biscuits, quickly she would roll & mix the dough & give it a pat, place it in the pan, bake it & it was done before you could get ready to eat.

 

I well remember going to their house when young, running to the back of their lot and watching the trains go by. That was when the railroad was new to Lynn. At one time they lived in a small house in the corner of ground known as the Y north of Arba. Those early settlers, their ways were crude, but to me very interesting in their ways and at times they seem impossible. But I sure take off my hat to them. They trod the trails we the roads.

 

She is buried in the cemetery at Mt. Gilead beside her husband.

 

North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 about Mariah Bundy Groom: Taylor Thorn

 

Bride: Mariah Bundy

Bond Date: 4 Dec 1832

Bond #: 000086917

Level Info: North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 ImageNum: 001138

 

County: Nash

Record #: 01 123

Bondsman: John C Thorn

Witness: Benja H Blount

Source Information: Ancestry.com. North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.

 

Original data: State of North Carolina. An Index to Marriage Bonds Filed in the North Carolina State Archives. Raleigh, NC, USA: North Carolina Division of Archives and History, 1977.

 

From the Scrapbook of my Aunt Winifred Kinsey excerpts of  records compiled by Neva Hill

 

Gulalma Mariah Bundy Thorn by Neva Hill written 1953  

Guliema Mariah (Bundy) Thorn -  

b. 17 Jun 1815 d. 19 Jul 1886 @ 64y of pneumonia.

 

She never went without a cap on her head, black for daywear, white for nightwear. She may have dressed otherwise in her younger years. As a small child I loved to follow her to some secluded spot where she would get out her tobacco from a pocket (sewed in a seam of her gown). She would press this tobacco, place it in a clay pipe & then sit very contentedly & smoke until the pipe went out. I always watched this procedure with much interest. She was a very gentle & kind woman, never smoked in public.

 

She had a round face & must have been very good looking when she was young. I have an old bonnet of hers made out of dark brown calico that had paper strips placed in the crown that could be taken out when the bonnet was washed. It came out over the face and had a long straight tail. Mariah made & wore this bonnet, anyone of good breeding in those days was not supposed to be tanned. Mariah was a very soft spoken & gentle woman. A good cook, she could get a meal (according to a friend) quicker than anyone they ever knew. She always baked biscuits, quickly she would roll & mix the dough & give it a pat, place it in the pan, bake it & it was done before you could get ready to eat.

 

I well remember going to their house when young, running to the back of their lot and watching the trains go by. That was when the railroad was new to Lynn. At one time they lived in a small house in the corner of ground known as the Y north of Arba. Those early settlers, their ways were crude, but to me very interesting in their ways and at times they seem impossible. But I sure take off my hat to them. They trod the trails we the roads.

 

She is buried in the cemetery at Mt. Gilead beside her husband.

 

Neva Hill's book incorrectly lists Taylor's marriage to Mariah as being performed in Guilford Co, NC.

 

North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868  

Bride: Mariah Bundy

Groom: Taylor Thorn

Bond Date: 04 Dec 1832

County: Nash

Record #: 01 123

Bondsman: John C Thorn

Witness: Benja H Blount

Bond #: 000086917

 

Taylor Arrington Thorn and Gulielma Mariah Bundy were married on 04 Dec 1832 in Nash Co, NC. They had the following children:

 

i.    Mary Jane Thorn was born on 06 Aug 1833.

 

From the Scrapbook of my Aunt Winifred Kinsey excerpts of records compiled by Neva Hill Mary A. Jane Thorn by Neva Hill written 1953  

Born August 6, 1833  

No account of death but I remember my father telling me she wasn't old when she died and I seem to remember his saying she died of consumption.  

Jane Thorn was Gulaelma Maria Bundy Thorn and Taylor A. Thorn's eldest daughter and that she married a Hedgpeth. If there were children I am not cetain but I think I faintly remember my father saying there were, and he also told me the Jeffries around Spartansburg were some of our distant relatives and also that Mahala Hedgpeth Barnes who married John Barnes was some of our kin. Mahala Barnes was run over and killed here in Lynn. She had a daughter Allie (Alice) that married Fred Chenoweth. He had 6 fingers on each hand, 8 fingers and 4 thumbs. They have a daughter and granddaughter. Mahala Barnes was an aunt of Virginia Monks whoes great grandfather was Arthur Hedgpeth, whoes wife was Sophia Bundy.

 

ii.    Orpha Thorn[27] was born on 27 Nov 1835 in IN[36]. She married Lewis Carroll on 25 Jul 1855 in Randolph Co, IN. She died on 19 Mar 1865 in Wayne Co, IN.

 

From the Scrapbook of my Aunt Winifred Kinsey excerpts of records compiled by Neva Hill written 1953  

She was an aunt that died ten years before I was born. Born Nov 27, 1835  

Died March 19, 1865  

I have been told she died on consumprtion. Orpha was 29 years old at the time of her death. She was buried in chester Cemetery.(A tree now full grown and getting old was planted by her sister Met Hunt on her grave.) The stone had frozen out of the ground was discarded and thrown in a corner of the cemetery. I hadit placed as near where I remebered it once was.

 

She had two children, girls, Maria (Carroll) Chenoweth, and Jennie Horn. My grandmother took Maria and raised her when a baby as a twin for my father. I rember her sisyter Jennie who married Jeremiah Horn.  

 

Lewis Carroll came home form the Civil War and broke out with small pox. All were vaccinated but Jennies's vaccination didn't take. She had real small pox and was disfigured for lfe. they had quite a time while they were being quarantined. Grandmother Thorn cooked the food, my father carried it to a stump where they got it to eat.

 

iii.   M. Demaris 'Met' Thorn was born on 02 Feb 1838 in IN[36]. She married Harlan "Harl" Hunt on 01 Jan 1857. She died in 1925.  

 

From the Scrapbook of my Aunt Winifred Kinsey excerpts of records compiled by Neva Hill

M. Demaris *met) Thorn Hunt by Neva Hill written 1953  

Daughter of Taylor Thorn and Gulaelma Maria (Bundy) Thorn Born Feb 2, 1838  

Was married to Harlan hunt, he having been married before and having one son Purviance. Born to Purviance two boys Everett and Ernest. Aunt Met claimed them aas her own and they often visited at their house.

 

Aunt Met was a very neat and refined woman, always looked like she came out of a band box. I often wondered at her bed as the slips and covers were so perfectly ironed. Her house was always in apple pie order. She was often shocked at the jokes of her sister Elizabeth, who was of a more jovial nature.

 

She lived to be an old woman, living several years after her husband's death. Her bonnets and aprons were a marvel to me, so well ironed and always clean.....

 

Buried in Foutain city Cemetery Member Lynn Methodist Church.

 

iv.  David Martin Thorn[27] was born on 16 Nov 1841 in Greensfork Twp, Wayne, In[36]. He married Sarah Jane Hill on 05 Sep 1861. He died on 26 Oct 1903 in Randolph Co, IN.  

 

From the Scrapbook of my Aunt Winifred Kinsey excerpts of records compiled by Neva Hill David Thorn by Neva Hill written 1953

 

Son of Taylor A. and Gulaelma Thorn

 

Was born in Greensfork Township Nov 16 1841 Died October 26, 1903.

 

He was a farmer until 1865 then moved to Washington Township, where his wife died. David Thorn first married Jane hill, daughter of Phillip and Mary Stubbs Hill. After one year his wife died, leaving a crippled son. He was first married at the age of 20 years. His first som was named Harlan (Harl). He was a club footed man.

 

David Thorn again married Lucy Keever in January 1866. She was the daughter of Michael and Henry (Pierce) Keever. He raised a family of seven children, Ada, Lizzie, Griffa, Oliver, Frank, and Howard, who was one of twin boys, the other boy died at birth, and Martin.

 

When a young man, joined the army, was wounded and thrown out behide a railroad track supposed to be dead, but others came along and took him back to the army where he survivied. He had his jaw broken in the wreck. It was never set and disfigured him for life. I remember that he wore a beard to hide the disfigurement. At one time he was trustee of Washington Twsp. He was buried at Winchester. He saw service all through the Civil War. Was a member of the First Christian Church Lynn, Ind.

 

Indiana Marriage Collection, 1800-1941 about David M Thorn  

Name: David M Thorn

Spouse Name: Sarah Jane Hill

Marriage Date: 5 Sep 1861

Marriage County: Randolph

Performed By: Min. John Peele

Source Title 1: Randolph County Indiana

Source Title 2: Marriage Record 1858-1865 Source Title 3: Compiled by Margaret Snyder OS Page: 37  

Source Citation: Title: Randolph County Indiana, Marriage Record 1858-1865, Compiled by Margaret Snyder; Page: 37.

 

From Wayne County Soldiers Register  

David M. Thorn enlisted in Co. B, 5th Reg. Ind. Vol. Cav. March 1864; was in the campaign to Atlanta, a fall from his horse having prevented his going with his regiment in the Stoneman raid, it which it was captured; discharged at close of war. Son of Taylor Thorn formerly of Wayne township.  

 

David Martin Thorn is listed in the history of Wayne Co. IN as having served in 90th Regt. 5th Cav. Co. B, enlisted March 1864, mustered out Sept. 1865. His wifeʼs pension application says he enlisted Feb. 2, 1864 at Lynn in Randolph Co. as pvt. In Co. H 71st Regt. Ind. Inft. 5th Cav. Vols. And Co. H 6th Regt. Ind. Vol. Cav. Aug. 1862. The Adjutant Generalʼs published report misspells his name and he is listed as David M. Thom who was residing in Chester, Wayne Co. A soldiers directory of Wayne Co. IN printed in 1865 lists David and his two brothers.  

 

'List of Pensioners on the Rolls 1883' Vol iv pg 178 Indiana, Randolph Co. No of certificate - 162, 977  

Name of Pensioner - Thorn David M. Cause for which pensioned frac. l. jaw Monthly Rate - $4.00  

Date of original Allowance - Oct, 1879

(IN Inf Co B was part of 2nd Brig, 2nd Div, 4th Corp, Army of the 57th

 

Indiana Marriage Collection, 1800-1941 about David M. Thorn

Name: David M. Thorn  

Spouse Name: Lucy A. Keever

Marriage Date: 11 Jan 1866

Marriage County: Wayne

Source Title 1: Wayne County, Indiana

Source Title 2: Index to Marriage Record 1860 - 1920 Inclusive Vol Source Title 3: W. P. A. Original Record Located: County Clerk's O Book: C- I

 

OS Page: 226

Source Citation: Title: Wayne County, Indiana, Index to Marriage Record 1860 - 1920 Inclusive Vol, W. P. A. Original Record Located: County Clerk's O; Book: C- I;Page: 226.

 

1880 United States Federal Census about David M. Thorn

Name: David M. Thorn  

Home in 1880: Washington, Randolph, Indiana

Age: 38

Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Birthplace: Indiana  

Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)

Spouse's name: Lucy A.  

Father's birthplace: North Carolina

Mother's birthplace: North Carolina Occupation: Farmer

Marital Status: Married

Race: White  

Gender: Male

Household Members: Name Age

David M. Thorn 38

Lucy A. Thorn 34  

Harlan E. Thorn 17

Griffa E. Thorn 13

Ada Thorn 11

Lizzie G. Thorn 10

Oliver P. Thorn 8

Frank W. Thorn 6

Martin Thorn 2

Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Washington, Randolph, Indiana; Roll 307; Family History Film: 1254307; Page: 265A; Enumeration District: 173; Image: 0371.

 

1900 United States Federal Census about David M Thorn

Name: David M Thorn  

Home in 1900: Washington, Randolph, Indiana

Age: 58  

Birth Date: Nov 1841

Birthplace: Indiana

Race: White

Gender: Male

Relationship to Head of House: Head Father's Birthplace: North Carolina

Mother's Birthplace: North Carolina

Spouse's name: Lucy A  

Marriage Year: 1866

Marital Status: Married

Years Married: 34

Household Members: Name Age

David M Thorn 58  

Lucy A Thorn 55

Howard Thorn 12

Martin D Thorn 21

Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Washington, Randolph, Indiana; Roll T623_399; Page: 7A; Enumeration District: 129.  

v.   Martin V. B. Thorn[40, 41] was born on 01 Mar 1844 in IN[36, 42]. He died on 19 Jul 1865.

 

From Wayne County Soldiers Register

V. B. Thorn enlisted in Co B, 57th Reg Ind Vol Inf October 1861, re-enlisted in March 1864; was in all the battles in which his regiment participated after that of Pittsburg Landing; was wounded near Nashville. Son of Taylor Thorn, formerly of Wayne Township. The Adjutant Generalʼs report in Indiana Volunteers lists Thorn, Martin V. B., living Chester of Wayne Co. mustered Dec. 18 of 1861, veteran; died at New Orleans, July 21, ʻ63. Lee surrendered at Appomattox 4-9-1865, on 4-26-1865 Johnson surrendered to Sherman, Martin Thorn wrote his letter home 5-7-1865 (11 days after surrender) and Jeff Davis was captured May 10, 1865. Martin Thorn died 7-19-1865 of yellow fever while on guard duty in Louisiana.

 

The 57th Indiana was in Col. John Q. Lane's 2nd Brigade of Brig. Gen. George Wagner's 2nd Division, Maj. Gen. D.S. Stanley's 4th Corps and were posted about 120 yards west of the Columbia Pike and about 600 yards south of the main line of Union breast works. They were in the heart of the fight an a TERRIBLE place to be! Nothing to protect them out there! No breastworks, nothing. There position was overrun and many were killed as they were forced to fall back.

 

Civil War Letter

 

One-hundred and thirty-one years ago, a Union soldier wrote the accompanying letter to his sister in Indiana. The soldier was Martin V. B. Thorn who was a private in Company B of the 57th Indiana Infantry. This was his last letter home before dying of yellow fever in a New Orleans hospital on July 7th, 1865. The sister was my great-great grandmother Martha Ann Alice (Thorn) Kinsey.

 

Near Nashville Tennessee Head Quarters 2nd Brig May The 7th/65

 

Dear Sister, I take my seat  

this evn'g for the Purpose of answering your kind letter witch a received this Evening. your highly esteamed note found me enjoying good health and I was truly glad to here your health was good .

We are alaying here in camp and a having a gay old time. Sericily

I think by the fourth of July I will be at home and then wont I have a gay time after my soldering is over. I guss I will . Oh, I long for the time to come when I can put on citizen Clothes again. I am not geting a shamed of the true Blue yet, but i would like to get a suit of citizen dry goods on again. I no I would feel awful querre. Well it is geting so Dark I will have to quit and go in my pup tent and light a candle.

Well I have a Candle Lighted and I think I can do mutch better

I got a letter from Dave dated the 1st of this Month he is at Pulaski he is well and harty. I wish to god they would catch Daniel Clark and hang him so high that he will never get down alive I would like to tie the knot that shuts his Wind off. When us veterns Soldiers get home the feather Bed Pimps will have to Walk prety strait for if they dont

it will stay stoped for it is a Wicked thing to shoot men down the Way we have been a doing it.

 

Dave said that he saw Where we planted the Rebels at franklin I think if he had a been in that fight he would a thought it was-ent very funey. Dave has saw some fighting but not very mutch.

 

I think I have saw my share in this Cruel War. my how

I am Wiling to quit if the Rebles is. Well Alice you may look  

for me home by the fourth of July my how I have Wrote enough for this time.  

Wright soon and let me no if you can read all of this Letter.

 

Dreck to Head Quarters 2nd Brig 2nd Div 4thA.C. Nashville Tenn  

so good by Dear sister from your True Brother

 

Other notes on Martin THORN

 

The 'Roll of Honor, Names of Soldiers, Victims of the Rebellion, Buried in National Cemeteries' (Quatermaster Generals Office July 20, 1866). US soldiers interred at New Orleans , LA during the Rebellion pg 113 no. 1704 Thom, M. V. B. Private 57th Ind Co. B date of death July 19, 1865.

 

His letter and photo are included in the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War website http://SUVCW.org/past/thornmvb.htm.

 

Cumberland under Gen. Thomas. (Grant, Sherman, Thomas, Stanley) (This is the brother David mentioned in the letter) 4th Corp Battle History  

Nov 22-25, 1863 Chatttanooga, Lookout Mt, Orchard Knob, Missionary Ridge, TN Oct 29, 30 1864 Spring Hill & Franklin TN  

Dec 15-16, 1864 Nashville TN (not 2nd Div) 4th Corp discontinued Apr 1, 1865

 

From 'Histroy of the Civlil War'  

Spring Hill and Franklin TN - 4th and 23rd Corp and Cavalry. Union 189 killed, 1033 wounded. Confed 1750 killed, 3800 wounded, 702   missing. 27900 Union engaged, 26897 Confederate engaged

 

U.S. Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles about Martin V. B. Thorn 

Name: Martin V. B. Thorn  

Residence: Chester, Indiana

Enlistment Date: 18 Dec 1861 Rank at enlistment: Private State Served: Indiana

Survived the War?: No  

Service Record: Enlisted in Company B, Indiana 57th Infantry Regiment on 18 Dec 1861.

Mustered out on 24 Jul 1865 at New Orleans, LA.  

Sources: Report of the Adjutant General of the State of Indiana

Historical Data Systems, comp.. U.S. Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2009

 

U.S. Veterans Gravesites, ca.1775-2006 about M V B Thorn Name: M V B Thorn  

Service Info.: PVT B 57 IND INF

Death Date: 20 Jul 1865  

Cemetery: Chalmette National Historical Park

Cemetery Address: Saint Bernard Highway Chalmette, LA 70043 Buried At: Site 6920  

Source Information:

National Cemetery Administration. U.S. Veterans Gravesites, ca.1775-2006 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.  

Original data: National Cemetery Administration. Nationwide Gravesite Locator

 

vi.  Griffa Taylor Thorn was born on 05 Jan 1847 in Arba, Randolph Co, IN[35, 36]. He married Julianna N. "Jude" Peele on 24 Aug 1870 in Centerville, Wayne Co, IN[35]. He died on 09 Oct 1918 in Lynn, Randolph Co, IN.

 

From the Scrapbook of my Aunt Winifred Kinsey excerpts of records compiled by Neva Hill

Griffa Taylor Thornby Neva Hill written 1953  my father

Born near Arba, Randolph Co, IN Jan 5th, 1847 and departed this life at his home in Lynn Sep 9, 1918. Thus spending his entire life of 71 years in this community. He wads married to Julianna N. Peele Sep 24, 1870. He had 4 sons and 2 daughters. ... When a lad of 16 years, he misquoted his age and enlisted in the Army. He enrolled on the 2nd day of May 1864 in Co A, 133 regiment of Indiana Volunteers. He was honorably discharged Sep 1864.

 

U.S. Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles about Griffa T Thorn

Name: Griffa T Thorn  

Residence: Wayne County, Indiana

 Enlistment Date: 17 May 1864

Rank at enlistment: Private  

State Served: Indiana

Survived the War?: Yes

Service Record: Enlisted in Company A, Indiana 133rd Infantry Regiment on 17 May 1864.

Mustered out on 05 Sep 1864 at Indianapolis, IN.  

Sources: Report of the Adjutant General of the State of Indiana

Historical Data Systems, comp.. U.S. Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2009.

 

From Wayne County Soldiers Register  

Griffa Thorn enlisted in the hundred days service under Captain Mount. Son of Taylor Thorn formerly of Wayne Tp.  

Military Record Name: Griffa Thorn

Residence: Wayne County, Indiana

Enlistment Date: 17 May 1864

Side Served: Union  

State Served: Indiana

Service Record: Enlisted as a Private on 17 May 1864.

Enlisted in Company A, 133rd Infantry Regiment Indiana on 17 May 1864.

Mustered Out Company A, 133rd Infantry Regiment Indiana on 5 Sep 1864 at Indianapolis, IN.  

 

Regimental History

One Hundred and Thirty-third Infantry INDIANA (100 DAYS)

One Hundred Days' Volunteers. -- Indiana's quota of 100 days' troops was eight regiments, numbering consecutively from the 132nd to the 139th, inclusive. They were used largely for guard duty and in garrisoning necessary points, relieving veteran troops for active field work in the important campaigns of 1864. These troops were to perform such duty as might be required of them in any state, and were to be armed, subsisted, clothed and paid by the United States. Upon reaching Nashville they were assigned to railroad guard duty along the lines of the Nashville & Chattanooga, Tennessee & Alabama, and Memphis & Charleston railroads. They were kept constantly engaged in this work until the latter part of Aug., 1864, serving beyond the time for which they had enlisted, keeping Sherman's lines of communication open for the transportation of supplies to his army.  

 

One Hundred and Thirty-third Infantry. -- Col., Robert N. Hudson Lieut.-Col., Charles M. Smith; Maj. Lucien A. Foote. This regiment was organized in May 1864, nine companies being raised in the 7th Congressional district and one at Richmond in the 5th district. It was mustered in May 17, and left the state at once for Tennessee. It was mustered out in Aug. 1864. Its total strength was 941. Loss by death, 16, desertion 2.  

Source: The Union Army, vol. 3, p. 186

 

Indiana Marriage Collection, 1800-1941 about Griffa T. Thorne

Name: Griffa T. Thorne  

Spouse Name: Julia A. Peelle

Marriage Date: 24 Sep 1870

Marriage County: Wayne

Source Title 1: Wayne County, Indiana

Source Title 2: Index to Marriage Record 1860 - 1920 Inclusive Vol Source Title 3: W. P. A. Original Record Located: County Clerk's O Book: C- J

 

OS Page: 515

Source Citation: Title: Wayne County, Indiana, Index to Marriage Record 1860 - 1920 Inclusive Vol, W. P. A. Original Record Located: County Clerk's O; Book: C- J;Page: 515.

 

1880 United States Federal Census about Griffa T. Thorn

Name: Griffa T. Thorn  

Home in 1880: Greens Fork, Randolph, Indiana

Age: 33  

Estimated birth year: abt 1847

Birthplace: Indiana  

Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)

Spouse's name: Julia N.  

Father's birthplace: North Carolina

Mother's birthplace: North Carolina

Occupation: Farmer

Marital Status: Married

Race: White  

Gender: Male

Household Members: Name Age

 Griffa T. Thorn 33  

Julia N. Thorn 27

Elmna Thorn 5

Amanda A. Thorn 2

Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Greens Fork, Randolph, Indiana; Roll 307; Family History Film: 1254307; Page: 300A; Enumeration District: 174; Image: 0441.

 

1900 United States Federal Census about Griffa T Thorn  

Name: Griffa T Thorn

Home in 1900: Greensfork, Randolph, Indiana Age: 53  

Birth Date: Jan 1847

Birthplace: Indiana

Race: White

Gender: Male

Relationship to Head of House: Head

Father's Birthplace: N Carolina

Mother's Birthplace: N Carolina

Spouse's name: Jula N  

Marriage Year: 1870

Marital Status: Married

Years Married: 30

Household Members: Name Age

Griffa T Thorn 53  

Jula N Thorn 46

Amanda A Thorn 22

John A Thorn 19

David E Thorn 15

Carel E Thorn 2

Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Greensfork

 

Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934 about Griffa T. Thorn

Name: Griffa T. Thorn  

State Filed: Indiana

Widow: Julia A. Thorn

National Archives and Records Administration. Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.

 

vii.   Elizabeth S. "Lib" Thorn[27] was born on 21 Dec 1849 in IN[35, 36]. She married James P. "Jimmy" Longfellow on 15 Dec 1866. She died on 13 Jun 1935 in Greensfork Twp, Randolph Co, IN. 

 

From the Scrapbook of my Aunt Winifred Kinsey excerpts of records compiled by Neva Hill

Elizabeth (Thorn) Longfellow by Neva Hill written 1953  

Daughter of Taylor and Maria Thorn Born Dec 21, 1849 - Died June 13, 1935  

She was married to James (Jimie) Longfellow. She was a member of the Christian Church. She had 5 children. 

 

Elizabeth (Aunt Lib) was of a jolly and pleasant nature and a grand woman. They lived at one time on the Boundary road near the creek and near an old cemetery. I am told the name of the church and school situated there was called Friendship. Many of my mother's people are buried there. I was baptised in this creek whren I was 17 years of age. the lived across the creek. You walked over thre creek on a plank hewed out of a log and you drove through the water to get to the house. We often visited them there, going one day in a spring wagon and returing the next day. What a trip and we looked forward to this trip long before we got to go. I remember they lived in a log house with a trumpet vine over the front door. I remember seeing my first loom to weave carpet on, in a back room. ...Aunt Lib seemed to get much out oif life. She often played jokes on people. One time she slpet late, had her blinds all down. the neighbors became worried, knocked on all the doors and windows. No answer. They broke in, swa her lying on the bed, thought she was dead, began to talk about it, when she suddenly jumped up and frightened them all. That was an aunt that I admired greatly. She died of pneumonia. She often spoke pieces at gatherings. Was good a memorizing and reciting.

 

9. viii. Martha Ann (Alice) Thorn was born on 03 Jan 1853 in Randolph Co, IN[36, 43, 44]. She married David Marcus Kinsey on 09 Apr 1870. She died on 26 Jun 1909[45].

Generation 9

 

9.    Martha Ann (Alice) Thorn-9 (Taylor Arrington-8, Martin R.-7, William-6, Martin-5, Thomas-4, Martin-3, Martin-2, Thomas-1) was born on 03 Jan 1853 in Randolph Co, IN[36, 43, 44]. She died on 26 Jun 1909[45].

 

David Marcus Kinsey son of Robert Young Kinsey and Hannah Jane Harris[45, 46, 47] was born on 25 Apr 1843 in Eaton (rural), Preble, OH[45, 46, 47]. He died on 14 Aug 1915 in Fairmont, Grant Co, IN[45, 46].

 

Sources

 

1          THORN-021, Thorn Descendancy Chart.  

2          THORN e-mail, Broman, Barb 10/27/03.  

3          Barbara Broman, THORN-024, e-mail 10/18/98.  

4          THORNE-031, e-mail, James Thorne, 08/24/98.  

5          Barb Broman, THORN-027, e-mail 3/12/99.  

6          THORN-028, Barb Broman e-mail 03/10/99.  

7          THORN e-mail, Broman, Barb 10/11/2001.  

8          THORN-023 Barbara Broman, e-mail 10/18/98.

9          BATTLE-001, Wm Battle Family.

10        Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for nicholas thorn.  

11        by Bill R. Linder, TAYLOR-001, Wm Taylor of Norfolk, VA.  

12        from Barb Broman 02/04/02, BATTLE-010, Battle Lineage.  

13        THORN-029, Janet Biondo e-mail 10/07/99.  

14        Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for Obedience Thorn.

15        THORN-020, William Thorn Descendancy-B. Broman.  

16        Ancestry Family Trees (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.), Ancestry.com, http://www.Ancestry.com, Ancestry Family Trees. http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=12932457&pid=154899801.

17        Ancestry.com, 1850 United States Federal Census (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.Original data - Seventh Census of the United States, 1850; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M432, 1009 rolls); Records of the Bureau of the Ce), Ancestry.com, http://www.Ancestry.com, Year: 1850; Census Place: , Nash, North Carolina; Roll: M432_638; Page: 279; Image: 232. Birth date: abt 1780Birth place: North Carolina Residence date: 1850Residence place: Nash, North Carolina.

18        THORN-033 Homer S. Loyd Research.  

19        Ancestry.com, 1850 United States Federal Census (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.Original data - Seventh Census of the United States, 1850; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M432, 1009 rolls); Records of the Bureau of the Ce), Ancestry.com, http://www.Ancestry.com, Year: 1850; Census Place: , Nash, North Carolina; Roll: M432_638; Page: 279; Image: 232. Birth date: abt 1780Birth place: North CarolinaResidence date: 1850Residence place: Nash, North Carolina.

20        Thorn NC Marriages 1741-1868.  

21        ref. http://www.c2i2.com/~stefa/owens.shtml, THORN e-mail, Adams, Dave , 01/03/01.  

22        Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for Mary Coppage.

23        Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for Mary Coppage.

24        Ancestry.com, 1850 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Year: 1850; Census Place: , Nash, North Carolina; Roll: M432_638; Page: 279A; Image:. Record for Augustin Thorn.  

25        Ancestry.com, 1860 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Year: 1860; Census Place: Old Fields, Wilson, North Carolina; Roll: ; Page: ; Image:. Record for Augustin Thorn.  

26        THORN-001, Taylor A. Thorn.  

27        Barb Broman e-mail 02/17/01, BUNDY-019, David Bundy Family.  

28        Ancestry.com, 1850 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Year: 1850; Census Place: Greensfork, Randolph, Indiana; Roll: M432_168; Page: 162B; Image:. Record for Taylor Thorn.

29        Ancestry.com, 1870 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Year: 1870; Census Place: Greensfork, Randolph, Indiana; Roll: M593_; Page: ; Image:. Record for Taylor A Thorn.  

30        Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1880 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Year: 1880; Census Place: Lynn, Randolph, Indiana; Roll: T9_307; Family History Film: 1254307; Page: 272.3000; Enumeration District: 173; Image: 0385. Record for Taylor Thorn.

31        Herrin, Cynthia, Nash County, North Carolina Vital Records Abstracts (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for Taylor Thorn.

32        Ancestry.com, North Carolina Marriage Collection, 1741-2004 (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Data Source: County Court Records at Nashville, NC and FHL # 0422156 item 3. Record for Taylor Thorn.

33        Ancestry.com, 1840 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2009), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Year: 1840; Census Place: , Randolph, Indiana; Roll: 92; Page: 55. Record for Taylor Thorn.  

34        Ancestry.com, 1860 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Year: 1860; Census Place: Franklin, Wayne, Indiana; Roll: ; Page: ; Image:. Record for Taylor Thern.  

35        THORN-013 Burial Records Mt. Gilead Cemetery.  

36        THORN-002, Thorn Family.  

37        THORN-006 Taylor Thorn Death Record.  

38        BUNDY-001 Gulaelma Maria Thorn.  

39        THORN-007 Marie Thorn Death Record.  

40        THORN-032, Chalmette Nat. Cem.  

41        THORN-011 Roll of Honor.  

42        THORN-010 Martin V. B. Thorn Last Letter.  

43        THORN-003 Martha Ann Alice (thorn) Kinsey, Hill, Neva.  

44        THORN-004 Martha Alice Kinsey Obit.  

45        Obituary of David M.Kinsey, KINSEY006, David M Kinsey obit.  

46        Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for David Marcus Kinsey.

47        Ancestry.com, 1910 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Year: 1910; Census Place: Fairmount, Grant, Indiana; Roll: T624_351; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 61; Image: 463. Record for David M Kinsey.

48        SHARP-012, Sharp Family Vital Records.  

49        Funeral Card-Luona Emogen Sharp, SHARP-043, Sharp, Luonna Emogene. 

 

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