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4 March 2005

Wyatt, Wiatt and Wiet Surname Y Chromosome DNA Study

A Wyatt surname Y Chromosome DNA study has been organized by Steven C. Perkins, mailto:SCPerkins@gmail.com a descendant of Samuel Wiatt of Knox County, Kentucky.

The Y chromosome only appears in males and is passed relatively unchanged from father to son. This makes it suited for study in surname projects. If you are a male surnamed Wiatt, or the wife or sister of such a person, and you would be interested in participating or sponsoring someone in the study, please contact me at the address above or visit the page linked below.

This study is motivated by interest in providing evidence to support or disprove various Wiatt, Wyatt, and Wiet family traditions of descent or relationship to Rev Hawte Wyatt and his brother Sir Francis Wyatt, Governor of Jamestown. This Wyatt family is from Kent and Yorkshire, England.

Rev. Hawte Wyatt is a Gateway Ancestor of Royal descent. A line of ancestry through his family connects one to the English Kings Edward I, Henry I-III, John, and William the Conquerer, and to the Holy Roman Emperor, Charlemagne. This page traces the ancestry of Rev Hawte Wyatt, Ancestry of Rev Hawte Wyatt.

A first goal would be to determine the DNA signature of the documented descendants or relatives of Rev. Hawte Wyatt. If you are a Wyatt named male from this family, please consider joining the study.

If participants from the Wyatt families in England can be found, an additional goal would be to determine the genetic connections between the various families.

We are using Family Tree DNA as our testing facility. There are three tests available for the Y Chromosome from FTDNA. There is a 12 marker test available for $99.00 plus $2.00 p&h. There is a 25 marker test available for $169.00 plus $2.00 postage and handling and a 37 marker test for $229.00 plus $2.00 postage and handling. You can start with the 12 marker and have it upgraded to 25 markers for an additional $90.00 or to 37 markers for $149.00. A 25 marker result can be upgraded to 37 markers for $59.00.

This is an exciting project which can answer several vexing questions among the American Wiatt, Wyatt and Wiet families. One question is who are the descendants of Rev haute Wyatt and another is whether there are relationships among the New England and Souther Wyatt families. I urge anyone interested in the study to visit the Wiatt, Wyatt and Wiet Y DNA Study and send a request to join.

Disclaimer:

I am not an FTDNA Affliate and I do not make any money from this study.

Current Results:

We now have nine results. We have several 12 and 25 marker matches. We need more participants before we can say how these results relate to other Wyatt families.

Wyatt Y DNA test results
    DYS#
Kit Name of Ancestor, Location *
H
a
p
l
o
3
9
3
3
9
0
1
9
3
9
1
3
8
5
a
3
8
5
b
4
2
6
3
8
8
4
3
9
3
8
9
|
1
3
9
2
3
8
9
|
2
4
5
8
4
5
9
a
4
5
9
b
4
5
5
4
5
4
4
4
7
4
3
7
4
4
8
4
4
9
4
6
4
a
4
6
4
b
4
6
4
c
4
6
4
d
4
6
0
G
A
T
A

H
4
Y
C
A

I
I

a
Y
C
A

I
I

b
4
5
6
6
0
7
5
7
6
5
7
0
C
D
Y

a
C
D
Y

b
4
4
2
4
3
8
14334 Wiatt I 13 22 14 10 13 14 11 14 12 13 11 29 16 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 28 12 15 15 16                        
25936 Wyatt - 13 22 15 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 11 28                                                  
10604 Thomas A. Wyatt Virginia R1b 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 17                        
11852 Edward K. Wyatt TN R1b 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 17 11 10 19 23 17 15 18 19 38 39 12 12
8678 John R. Wyatt Virginia R1b 13 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 16 8 9 11 11 25 14 19 29 15 16 16 18                        
13896 Samuel Wiatt VA, TN, and KY R1b 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 14 14 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 29 15 16 16 17                        
16437 Samuel Wiatt VA, TN, and KY R1b 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 14 14 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 29 15 16 16 17                        
19849 Wyatt R1b 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 14 14 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 29 15 16 16 17                        
18143 Wyatt R1b 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 14 14 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 29 15 16 16 17 11 11 19 23 17 16 18 18 38 38 12 12

Analysis

One result is in Haplogroup I, another is undetermined, and seven results are in a haplotype that can be classed as part of Haplogroup HG2, the Atlantic Modal Haplotype, now called Haplogroup R1b. This Haplogroup is the most common in Europe. If the upgraded results still shows only a difference of 3 steps or less, then we can consider the lines to be related within the past 1000 years.

14334 and 25936 are 3 steps apart at 2 markers. 14334 has a documented line back to Gloucester Co., VA and may descend from Rev Haute Wyatt.

10604 and 11852 are an exact 12/12 and 25/25 match. At 12 markers, 8678 is 3 steps different.

13896, 16437, 19849, and 18143 are exact matches at 12 and 25 markers. Both 13896, and 16437, are descendants of Samuel Wiatt of VA, TN and KY.

Three tests are at the lab and we hope to have results by the end of January.

We need more participants from the Gloucester Co., VA families so we can determine the haplotype for Rev Haute Wyatt.

Anglo-Saxon, Norman, Viking, Celt?

At this time, it is not possible to absolutely differentiate between the Anglo-Saxons and the Scandinavian and Norman Vikings through DNA analysis, although the following articles make a start in that direction using Haplogroups of selected markers.
See,:
Helgason, etc., "Estimating Scandinavian and Gaelic Ancestry in the Male Settlers of Iceland", Am. J. Hum. Genet., 67:697-717, (2000);

and, this article:

Wilson, J. F., Weiss, D. A., Richards, M., Thomas, M. G., Bradman, N., Goldstein, D. B. "Genetic evidence for different male and female roles during cultural transitions in the British Isles". Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. U. S. A., vol 98 (9) p5078 (2001)",
contains evidence for the following preliminary table of Y DNA markers for Celtic/Basque, Anglo Saxon and Norwegian ancestry:

 
                                  DYS19/ 
         DYS388-DYS393-DYS392-DYS394-DYS390-DYS391 
Celtic/Basque:  12-----13-----13-----14-----24-----11  
Anglo Saxon:    14-----13-----11-----14-----22-----10 
Norwegian:      12-----13-----11-----16-----25-----11 
 
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Other Y DNA marker sets: 
                                  DYS19/ 
         DYS388-DYS393-DYS392-DYS394-DYS390-DYS391 
Atlantic MH*    12     13     13     14     24     11 
Cohen    MH     16     12     11     14     23     10 
*=Celtic/Basque 
MH=Modal Haplotype       


Preliminary results from a more recent study are reported in this article from the BBC:
Nicola Cook, "Viking Genetics Survey Results", reporting on a study done by Prof. David B. Goldstein at University College London. See, "A Y Chromosome Census of the British Isles" Current Biology 2003 13: 979-984, for the full report.

More Information on DNA and Genealogy:

The following page at the University of Leicester contains links to primary scientific research on the Y chromosome: The Y Chromosome as a Marker for the History and Structure of Human Populations.

The following article is one of the more important discussions of Y DNA: Semino, et.al., "The Genetic Legacy of Paleolithic Homo sapiens sapiens in Extant Europeans: A Y chromosome Perspective", Science 2000, v 290, p.1155 et. seq.

This is a glossary of genetic terms: Talking Glossary of Genetic Terms from the National Human Genome Research Institute.

Information on Y DNA testing and Genetics in family history research is available from the following web page:
Chris Pomery's DNA Portal: DNA & the Family Historian.

This page by Dennis Garvey discusses Haplogroups and gives frequency tables for the possible variations: Haplogroups.

This page by Nancy Custer gives information on the Y-STR Loci Allele Frequencies as Reported in the Y-STR European and USA Databases.

Kevin Duerinck's page gives information on the various testing laboratories:
Genetics Laboratories and Testing Sites

See also:
GENEALOGY-DNA-L Listed URLs
and,
Genetics and Genealogy

There are online Y DNA databases for YSTR Europe, YSTR America and YSTR Asia at the Y STR sites.

There is a discussion list at Rootsweb. Instructions for subscribing and searching the archives are at this URL: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/GENEALOGY-DNA.html.


Steven C. Perkins
SCPerkins@gmail.com