John Space ¹

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Peter SPACE (SPIECE) - Sussex County NJ
Posted by Cindy Bergeron Scherwinski on December 29, 1998 at 07:10:20:

I am looking to correspond with anyone who has connections/information on the Peter SPACE family. Peter and his younger brother, John, came to America from Germany presumedly in 1765 and settled in Germany Flats, Sussex County, New Jersey. The original spelling was SPIECE. My line descends from John Space but I am interested in exchanging information.


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Re: Peter SPACE (SPIECE) - Sussex County NJ
Posted by Della M. Shafer on December 29, 1998 at 19:26:58:

In Reply to: Peter SPACE (SPIECE) - Sussex County NJ posted by Cindy Bergeron Scherwinski on December 29, 1998 at 07:10:20:

My husband, Melvin, is a descendant of Peter as follows: Manus SPACE & Elizabeth MAINES, Robert SPACE & Henrietta Ogden DILL, Charles Dill SPACE & Olivia A. HALEY, Maude SPACE & Clifton E. SHAFER. We have accumulated a lot of information on some of Peter's lines. We have never found the name SPIECE in German research. I understand from a German language expert that "C" is never used in the language unless it is connected with another letter, such as "H" and then it is not pronounced with the "S" sound. We once heard that Peter and John (there may have been others, too) spent time in England before coming to America. If so, that may be where the name was changed to SPIECE. However, there were lots of SPIESS's in Germany with similar given names, so that may be the original spelling.


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:46:28 -0500
From: A&C Scherwinski anahar@charter.net

I am researching my SPACE family line which may have connections with the SPEESE spellings as well as SPIECE.

Brothers, John and Peter SPACE (or SPIECE/SPEESE) immigrated from Germany in 1765. Some sources state the brothers spent time in England before coming to "America" which might explain why there are some researchers who state that the name was once spelled SPIECE.

According to Snell's History of Sussex & Warren Counties, New Jersey (1881), Peter was born near Berlin, Germany. The only areas in Germany according to the IGI in which we have been able to find a surname similar to SPACE were Bayern (Bavaria) and Westfalen (Westfalia) where there are some SPIESS families. The given names in these families were very similar to SPACE family names here. Tradition says the German spelling was SPIECE, but in the German language, "C" is never used without a "K" or an "H" and is then pronounced differently, so if the name was ever spelled that way, it must have been changed after leaving Germany.

The progenitor of my line is younger brother John Space - he immigrated from Warren County, NJ with his wife, Abigail MOTT, to Wyoming Valley area in Luzerne County, PA. They remained in this area until their deaths in1813 (John) and 1839 (Abigail).


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Space/Spiece/Spies German Roots
Posted by Dottie Harnish on August 08, 1999 at 12:42:16:

My husband is a descendent of Peter Space who is believed to have come to the US in 1765 from Germany (via England) with his brother John, and settled in Germany Flats, NY (Peter was father of Mannus Space).

I'm curious about where the info came from regarding Peter and John's date of arrival in the US, how we know (think) that they came from Germany, and why we believe they spent some time in England (where the name may have been changed). ³

  Noted events in his life were:

• Military Service: in the 2d New Jersey Regiment, 07 Nov 1776, Sussex, Sussex, New Jersey, USA. ^{4 5}
John Space of
Capt Luse's Co,
2d New Jersey Regmt, Israel Shreve, Col
Revolutionary War

Appears in Book
Copied from Rolls
of the organization named above.
Date of appointment } Nov 7, 1776
or enlistment }

Casualties Destd Nov 14, 77

• Military Service: 2nd New Jersey Regiment, May 1777-Dec 1780, , , New Jersey, USA. ⁵  
Revolutionary War Company Pay Roll

John Space, Pvt.

For the Pay Pay Per Time of Pay &
Month of Commencement Month Service Subsistence

May 1777 1 May 1777 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
Jun 1777 1 Jun 1777 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
Jul 1777 1 Jul 1777 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
Sep 1777 1 Nov 1777 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
Oct 1777 1 Nov 1777 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
Nov 1777 1 Nov 1777 6 2/3 Doll 14 da £ 1,3,9
Mar 1778* 15 Mar 1778 6 2/3 Doll 15 da £1.5
Apr 1778 1 Apr 1778 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
May 1778* 1 May 1778 6 2/3 Doll 15 da £1.5
Aug I 778 12 Aug 1778 6 2/3 Doll 18 da £ 1.10
Sep 1778 1 Aug 1778 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
Oct 1778 1 Oct 1778 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
Nov 1778 1 Nov 1778 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
Dec 1778 1 Dec 1778 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
Jan 1779 1 Jan 1779 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
Feb 1779 1 Feb 1779 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
Mar 1779 1 Mar 1779 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
Apr 1779 1 Apr 1779 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
May 1779 1 May 1779 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
Jun 1779 1 Jun 1779 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. £2.10
Jul - Aug 1779 1 Jul 1779 6 2/3 Doll 2 mo. £5
Sep 1779 1 Sep 1779 10 Doll 1 mo. £8 (+Aug
Subsistence)
Oct 1779 1 Oct 1779 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. 6 2/3 Doll
Nov - Dec 1 Nov 1779 6 60/90 Doll 1 mo. 33 30/90 Doll
Jan - Feb 1780 1 Jan 1780 6 60/90 Doll 2 mo. 33 30/90 Doll
(20 Doll Sub)
Mar 1780 1 Mar 1780 6 2/3 Doll 1 mo. 16 60/90 Doll
(10 Doll Sub)
Apr - Jul 1780 1 Apr 1780 16 2/3 Doll 4 mo. 66 2/3 Doll
Aug - Dec 1780 1 Aug 1780 6 2/3 Doll 5 mo. 33 1/3 Doll

Note: *Joined 15 Mar - Deserted 15 May

• Military Service: 2nd New Jersey Regiment, Jun 1778-Mar 1783, , , New Jersey, USA. ⁵
Revolutionary War
Company Muster Roll

John Space, Pvt
Term of
Date Unit Capt. Colonel Enlistment Rmks

12 Jun 1778 2d NJ Rgmnt Henry Luse Israel Shreve War Joined 15 Mar
Destd 15 May
10 Sep 1778 2d NJ Rgmnt Henry Luse Israel Shreve War Elizabeth Town
18 Oct 1778 2d NJ Rgmnt Henry Luse Israel Shreve War
02 Nov 1778 2d NJ Rgmnt Henry Luse Israel Shreve War
16 Dec 1778 2d NJ Rgmnt Henry Luse Israel Shreve War Newark
13 Jan 1779 2d NJ Rgmnt Henry Luse Israel Shreve War Newark
04 Feb 1779 2d NJ Rgmnt Henry Luse Israel Shreve War Newark
26 Mar 1779 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Israel Shreve War Newark
09 Apr 1779 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Israel Shreve War
11 Jun 1779 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Israel Shreve War Easton
07 Jul 1779 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Israel Shreve War Wyoming
17 0ct 1779 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Israel Shreve War Easton
08 Nov 1779 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Israel Shreve War Scotch Plains
21 Jan 1780 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Israel Shreve War Camp
Mar 1780 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Israel Shreve War on furlough
Jersey Camp
07 Apr 1780 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Israel Shreve War Recruiting Svc
06 Sep 1780 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Israel Shreve War
02 Jan 1781 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Israel Shreve War
02 Jan 1782 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Elias Dayton War
31 Jan 1782 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Elias Dayton War Jersey Hults
28 Feb 1782 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Elias Dayton War Comd Sussex
01 Apr 1782 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Elias Dayton War
May 1782 3d Company Elias Dayton War
2d NJ Rgmnt
06 Jun 1782 3d Company Elias Dayton War Comd Newark
2d NJ Rgmnt
08 Jul 1782 2d Company Elias Dayton War
01 Aug 1782 2d NJ Rgmnt William Helms Elias Dayton War Comd Southward
06 Sep 1782 2d Company Elias Dayton War
2d NJ Rgmnt
11 Oct 1782 2d Company Elias Dayton War
2d NJ Rgmnt
30 Nov 1782 2d Company Elias Dayton War
2d NJ Rgmnt
24 Dec 1782 2d Company Elias Dayton War
19 Feb 1783 2d Company Lt Col Francis War on furlough
2d NJ Rgmnt Barber
Mar 1783 2d Company Lt Col John N. War
2d NJ Rgmnt Cummings War

• Military Service: 2nd New Jersey Regiment, Jan 1781, , , New Jersey, USA. ⁵ Return of the non-commissioned officers and privates of the second Jersey Regiment in service in January 1781
(Revolutionary War)

John Space, Pvt.

Return Dated Time of Svc Commander
05 Apr 1781 Feb 1, I777 to Aug 1,1780 Capt Helms
not dated Feb 1,1777 to Aug 1781 Capt Helms

• Census: 1800 US, 1800, Kingston, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA. ⁶
free white males free white females

Head of Household | under 10 | 10-15 | 16-25 | 26-44 | 45+ || under 10 | 10-15 | 16-25 | 26-44 | 45+ |

John Space | | 2 | | | 1 || 2 | 1 | | 1 |

• Census: 1810 US, 1810, Kingston, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA. ⁷
free white males free white females

Head of Household | under 10 | 10-15 | 16-25 | 26-44 | 45+ || under 10 | 10-15 | 16-25 | 26-44 | 45+ |

Space, John | 1 | | | | 1 || 1 | 1 | | | 1 |

• Probate: Special Orphans Court, 06 May 1831, Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA. ⁸
State of Pennsylvania
Luzerne County

Special Orphans Court May 6,1831
Before Hon Wm. S. Ross &. Chas D. Shoemaker, Esq.
Judges of the same Court

I do hereby Certify that satisfactory evidence was adduced to prove that Betsy Bird, Nancy Daley, Mayard Jackson, Elsie Hoover, Sally Muscoe, John Space, Zepheniah Space, James R. Space, Abigail Shay are heirs, and the only heirs at law of John Space deceased who was late a Soldier in the New Jersey Line of the Army of the American Revolution, and by the said Court adjudged to be sufficient.

Given under my hand and the Seal of the said Court at Wilkes Barre the Sixth day of May AD 1831

/s/ Henry Pettebone
Clerk O C

• Probate, 17 Jun 1831, Greenville, Greene, New York, USA. ⁹
Greenville, Green Co. N.Y.
June 17th ,1831

Sir,

I acknowledge the receipt of bounty Land Warrant Number 1738 paid to Betsy Bird, Daughter, and the other heirs at law of John Space who was a Soldier of the New Jersey Line in the Army of the American Revolution.

I am Very Respectfully Your
Obt Servt
/s/ Lewis Wakeley

John married Abigail Mott on 07 Mar 1780 in Sussex, Sussex, New Jersey, USA. (Abigail Mott was born circa 1760 in Sussex, Sussex, New Jersey, USA ¹⁰ and died after 20 Apr 1842 in Kingston, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA.)