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John Schuch
(Abt 1840-1886)
Gertrude Gorges
(1844-1926)
Samuel L. Gatons
(1841-1911)
Mary Ann Mahoney
(1846-1931)
William Peter Schuck
(1878-1946)
Margaret Elizabeth Gatons
(1886-1968)

Raymond William Schuck
(1911-1990)

 

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Spouses/Children:
Kathryn Edith Scherer

Raymond William Schuck

  • Born: 26 Jan 1911, Joliet, Will, Illinois, United States 2 3 4 5
  • Marriage: Kathryn Edith Scherer on 15 Jul 1933 in Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States 1
  • Died: 20 May 1990, Verona, Dane, Wisconsin, United States at age 79 6 7 8
  • Buried: 24 May 1990, Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States 9 10

bullet   Cause of his death was ventricular fibrillation; chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.11

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bullet  General Notes:


Attended Kindergarten and 1st grade at St. Mary's Academy and 2nd through 8th grade at St John's School followed by De LaSalle Boys High School, operated by the Christian Brothers, Joliet, IL. Was accepted to Loyola University, Chicago and planned to go to law school but had to change plans when Grandma Gatons died in 1930 and the Depression set in. He graduated in 1931 with a BCS degree in Science and Commerce.

He worked for the City Treasurer, Chicago, IL and also as a Tour Lecturer, Grey Line Tours. We met while Aunt Biz worked at the Steven's Hotel. That was one of the places where the tours loaded and I was visiting Biz when a friend of hers introduced us. [Kathryn Scherer Schuck]

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My dad told me this story about your dad. He said Aunt Elizabeth baked a great coffeecake and always made an extra. He said, 'Ray and I went to Aunt Elizabeth's house and they both eyed a coffeecake. Ray always had to carry the cake and once at home got the first slice. On the day that I asked to carry the cake, Ray said no. When it was time to go Elizabeth took the cake and went to wrap it. She came back with the wrapped cake and Ray hurried out the door with cake in hand. Elizabeth started laughing. She handed me another wrapped cake and said 'your brother just took the garbage home.' When I entered the my home and went to the kitchen, Ray had a knife and was carefully cutting the string to get what he thought was the cake.' My dad said the look on his face was something he never would forget. They took turns carrying a cake from Aunt Elizabeth's home. [Barbara Schuck Rosales]

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Raymond W. Schuck, son of Mr. and Mrs. William Schuck, who is attending Loyola University, Chicago, has been recently elected to Pi Gamma Mu, national honorary social science fraternity. Qualifications for membership consist in high scholastic standing and outstanding ability in social science study. Mr. Schuck has been an honor student at Loyola ever since his graduation from De La Salle high school. [Joliet Daily News]

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Aerial Cutlery to Hold Ceremony

Fred Jaeger, general manager of the Aerial Cutlery Manufacturing company, said today that presentation of the Army-Navy E award will be made to the company Friday afternoon at 4 o'clock in a brief ceremony. Announcement of the award was made some time ago.

The employees of the firm also will receive their E pins at the ceremony. The presentation will be brief, as little time will be taken from the production of bayonets used on carbine rifles by the armed forces.

A party for the employees will be held Saturday night at the Legion building, it was announced by Jaeger, as a celebration of the event.

Maj. H. E. Stier of the Chicago ordnance depot and other Army and Navy officials will be on hand from Chicago and Milwaukee offices. Maj. Gen. L. H. Campbell Jr., chief of ordnance in Washington, congratulated the firm in a letter on its excellent record and on receiving the award. [Marinette Eagle-Star]

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During WW II he worked as the Treasurer, Aerial Cutlery, Marinette, WI. Among other things, the company was a war related industry (manufacturing bayonets) and he was not required to join the service.

A few years after the war he joined the George S. May Company, Chicago, IL as an accountant. The company sold it's services to corporations which were often on the brink of failing and the May Company would go in and try to improve management and production. Much of the company did 'efficiency expert' work but Ray went in to teach modern accounting techniques.

The job caused him to travel, usually staying at a location several weeks to several months. His territory covered east of the Mississippi from Saskatchewan, Canada to Galveston, Texas. In 1958 Kitty joined him on the road, traveling the country for many years for both the George S. May Company and a similar company headquartered in Minneapolis, MN.

This was followed by work for the RCA Corporation that had the government services contracts to operate a Job Corps Project at Camp McCoy, WI. Presumably, working with government contracts finally lead to a similar position monitoring federal government contracts at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, where he worked until he retired in 1984 at the age of 73. [Wm. John Schuck] 12 13 14 15 16

bullet  Medical Notes:

Other significant conditions: Pneumonia; B-12 deficiency; Alzheimer's 17

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bullet  Noted events in his life were:



• Birth: Bk. 122, Pg. 110, Cert. No. 26932, Birth Record, 26 Jan 1911, Joliet, Will, Illinois, United States. 18



• Census: 1920 US, 12 Jan 1920, Joliet, Will, Illinois, United States. 19
|28|50|Schuck, William.|Head|R|.|M|W|41..|M||||.|Y|Y|Illinois||Illinois||Illinois|Y|Salesman|Hardware store|M|.|
|28|50|Schuck, Margaret|Wife|.|.|F|W|34..|M||||.|Y|Y|Illinois||Illinois||Illinois|Y|None....|..............|.|.|
|28|50|Schuck, Eugene..|Son.|.|.|M|W|10..|S||||Y|Y|Y|Illinois||Illinois||Illinois|Y|None....|..............|.|.|
|28|50|Schuck, Raymond.|Son.|.|.|M|W|08..|S||||Y|.|.|Illinois||Illinois||Illinois|.|None....|..............|.|.|
|28|50|Schuck, William.|Son.|.|.|M|W|05..|M||||.|.|.|Illinois||Illinois||Illinois|.|None....|..............|.|.|
|28|50|Schuck, Lawrence|Son.|.|.|M|W|1/12|S||||.|.|.|Illinois||Illinois||Illinois|.|None....|..............|.|.|

• Residence: 209 Cass Street, 12 Jan 1920, Joliet, Will, Illinois, United States. 19



• Graduation: De La Salle High School, 11 Jun 1928, Joliet, Will, Illinois, United States. 20



• Graduation: Joliet Catholic Academy, 11 Jun 1928, Joliet, Will, Illinois, United States. 21
JOLIET
CATHOLIC
ACADEMY

1200 N. Larkin Avenue • Joliet, Illinois 60435 • (815) 741-0500

TO: Mr. John W. Schuck
FROM: Office of Registrar
DATE: January 09, 1996

Schuck, Raymond W.
son of William Schuck
209 Cass Street
Joliet, Illinois

01/26/1911- Date of Birth
09/03/1924 - Date of Entrance to DeLaSalle High School
………………Entered from St. John School
06/11/1928 - Date of Graduation


Sr. Mary Ann Schnelker, OSF
Sr. Mary Ann Schnelker, OSF
Registrar



• Census: 1930 US, 03 Apr 1930, Joliet, Will, Illinois, United States. 22
|18|22|Schuck, Wm P....|Head|R|10.00|R|N|M|W|51|M|29|N|Y|Illinois|Germany.|Illinois||61|13|1||||Y|Salesman|Hardware Co|4590|W|N|25|N|
|18|22|Schuck, Margaret|Wife|.|.....|.|v|F|W|44|M|23|N|Y|Illinois|Illinois|Illinois||61|..|.||||Y|None....|...........|....|.|.|..|.|
|18|22|Schuck, Eugene..|Son.|.|.....|.|v|M|W|20|S|..|N|Y|Illinois|Illinois|Illinois||61|..|.||||Y|Salesman|R R Station|4577|W|N|26|N|
|18|22|Schuck, Raymond.|Son.|.|.....|.|v|m|W|19|S|..|Y|Y|Illinois|Illinois|Illinois||61|..|.||||Y|None....|...........|....|.|.|..|.|
|18|22|Schuck, William.|Son.|.|.....|.|v|M|W|15|S|..|Y|Y|Illinois|Illinois|Illinois||61|..|.||||Y|Laborer.|Mills Steel|7824|W|Y|15|N|
|18|22|Schuck, Lawrence|Son.|.|.....|.|v|M|W|10|S|..|Y|Y|Illinois|Illinois|Illinois||61|..|.||||Y|None....|...........|....|.|.|..|.|

• Residence: 209 Cass St, 03 Apr 1930, Joliet, Will, Illinois, United States. 22



• Election: Pi Gamm Mu national honorary social fraternity, 06 May 1931, Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States. 23
Raymond W. Schuck, son of Mr. and Mrs. William Schuck, who is attending Loyola University, Chicago, has been recently elected to Pi Gamma Mu, national honorary social science fraternity. Qualifications for membership consist in high scholastic standing and outstanding ability in social science study. Mr. Schuck has been an honor student at Loyola ever since his graduation from De La Salle high school.



HISTORY OF PI GAMMA MU

Pi Gamma Mu was founded in 1924 by Dean Leroy Allen from Southwestern College in Kansas and Dean William A. Hamilton of the College of William and Mary in Virginia. Seventeen founding chapters were organized simultaneously.

SOCIAL SCIENCE was established as a quarterly journal in 1925. With the beginning of Volume 57 in 1982, the name of the journal was changed to INTERNATIONAL SOCIAL SCIENCE REVIEW. Publication of the PI GAMMA MU NEWSLETTER began in 1978.

Rear Admiral Richard Byrd served for a time as Honorary National President of Pi Gamma Mu, in 1928 carrying the Society's flag to the Antarctic. Two presidents of the Philippines were members of the Society; one U. S. president joined as a student--Lyndon B. Johnson.

The Society was incorporated under the name "The National Social Science Honor Society, Pi Gamma Mu, Inc." on April 5, 1929 as a non-profit corporation in Colorado. To acknowledge its chapters outside the U. S., the Board of Trustees took action in 1980 to change the name of the Society to "Pi Gamma Mu, International Honor Society in Social Science."

The 1987 constitution provides for triennial conventions, with each chapter eligible to send a delegation. The convention is vested with the supreme authority of the Society. During the convention, delegates elect two student representatives to the Board of Trustees, which exercises administrative power between conventions. Members of the Board of Trustees are elected by the chapters for three year terms. Five chancellors oversee regions made up of several provinces. The provinces are headed by governors who lend support and assistance to the collegiate chapters under their jurisdiction. Each chapter, under the direction of faculty officers, plans its own programs and specific areas of service.

In 1993, the Society moved its headquarters in Winfield, Kansas to the Carnegie Building, which is listed on the National Register of Historic Buildings.

Pi Gamma Mu is a member of the Association of College Honor Societies, on whose council it has a representative. It is also affiliated with the American Association for the Advancement of Science which classifies Pi Gamma Mu as a constituent organization of Section K--Social, Economic, and Political Sciences.



• Graduation: Loyola University, 08 Jun 1932, Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States. 24
LOYOLA UNIVERSITY of CHICAGO
For the Greater Glory of God
To all Who See These Letters
Greetings in the Lord

 
When, indeed, it is fitting and the custom of the Masters, who implanted in these graduates the eternal truths from above, and by which these graduates, who stand here, are set apart from those less educated, and are recognized by this acclamation. On this occasion we declare to those here present that these graduates have met the standards required by public law and in customary session of our Faculty have awarded
 
Raymond William Schuck
alumnus of our beloved Loyola University
The degree of Bachelor of Science in Business Administration
And all the rights and privileges which pertain to this degree.
 
Given in Chicago, the eight day of June 1932
With best wishes
Robert M. Kelly Jr.
President
 
 
 
Universitas Loyolaea
A.M.D.G.
Chicagiensis
Omnibus Has Literas Visuris
Salutem in Domino

Quandoquidem æquum est et a majoribus institutem ut qui ingenioet doctrina aeteris præstant merita, qua secernantur ab illiterates, insigniantur laurea, Nos ad id nuneris publica auctoritate deligati, certiores facimus omnes, ad quos præsentes pervenerint
Raimundum Gulielmum Schuck
Dilectum Universitatis nostræ Loyalaeæ almnum ad gradum
Scientiae Commerrialis Baccalaureatus
Insolemni nostræ Facultatis sessione fuisse provectum, eumque singulis juribus et privelegiis ad istum gradum pertinentibus, a nobis fuisse donatum.

Datum in urbe Chicagine die octavo mensis Junii anno Reparatae salutis millesimo nongentesimo trigesimo secundo.

/s/ Robertus M. Kelley Jr.
Prases



• Military Award: Army Navy E Award Pin, 24 Nov 1944, Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States.



• Military Award: Army-Navy "E" Award, 24 Nov 1944, Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States. 25

Aerial Cutlery Manufacturing Company. This certifies that Raymond W. Schuck has through efforts and efficiency contributed greatly to the winning of the Army - Navy "E" Award for Outstanding Production of War Materials. This award is your nation's tribute to your effort and to your great work in backing up our soldiers on the fighting fronts.

/s/ Frederick H. Jaeger
Secretary Treasurer



• Military Award: the Army Navy "E" Award, 24 Nov 1944, Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States. 26

Aerial Cutlery to Hold Ceremony

Fred Jaeger, general manager of the Aerial Cutlery Manufacturing company, said today that presentation of the Army-Navy E award will be made to the company Friday afternoon at 4 o'clock in a brief ceremony. Announcement of the award was made some time ago.

The employees of the firm also will receive their E pins at the ceremony. The presentation will be brief, as little time will be taken from the production of bayonets used on carbine rifles by the armed forces.

A party for the employees will be held Saturday night at the Legion building, it was announced by Jaeger, as a celebration of the event.

Maj. H. E. Stier of the Chicago ordnance depot and other Army and Navy officials will be on hand from Chicago and Milwaukee offices. Maj. Gen. L. H. Campbell Jr., chief of ordnance in Washington, congratulated the firm in a letter on its excellent record and on receiving the award.



• Occupation: Accountant, 1932-1984, , , Wisconsin, United States. 27

• Social Security Number: 392-03-1492, Bef 1951, , , Wisconsin, United States. 28



• Letter: from Larry to Ray Schuck describing his work at Frances Mahon Deaconess Hospital, Sep 1952, Glasgow, Valley, Montana, United States. 29
Dear Ray:

Note that microscope below me- cost $1,000 dollars. The new Coleman (spectrophotometer) cost $700 dollars. - Not bad for an old man at 32 years.

Yes, they gave me a raise in pay some time ago- from$300 per mo. With meals to $450.00 per mo. with meals and laundry free. Feel sure they will continue to raise as things get better. I've run up their income from their old 400 t0 500 per mo. laboratory income - to $1,000 and over per mo.

In the past 17 days I've beat that even - today I total $1,066 in that many days. - Not bad for one guy! Hello to all.

Yours,
Brother Larry
301 Mahon, Glasgow, Mont. 9-18-52



• Photograph: 50th Wedding Anniversary Photo, 15 Jul 1983, Chesterfield, St. Louis, Missouri, United States. 30

• Retirement: University of Wisconsin, 31 Jul 1984, Madison, Dane, Wisconsin, United States. 31



• Death: (Death Certificate, May 21, 1990), 20 May 1990, Madison, Dane, Wisconsin, United States. 32

• Obituary: Wisconsin State Journal, 21 May 1990, Madison, Dane, Wisconsin, United States. 33
MADISON - Raymond W. Schuck died on May 20 at the Four Winds Nursing Home in Verona.

He was born January 26, 1911 in Joliet, Illinois. He was the son of Margaret and William Schuck. He was a graduate of Loyola University - Chicago. He was retired from the Administrative Research Department of the University of Wisconsin in July 1984. He is survived by his wife, Kathryn; his sons, Dr. James M. Schuck of Chesterfield, Missouri, JR Schuck of Bethesda, Maryland, Wm. John Schuck of Tacoma, Washington; his daughters, Sister Judith S.S.N.D. of Milwaukee and Jane Jaskowski of Madison; 12 grandchildren; two step grandchildren; and six great-grandchildren. JOYCE FUNERAL HOME, 5701 Odana Road, is in charge of funeral arrangements. There will be no visitation. A Memorial Mass will be held at OUR LADY OF LOURDES CATHOLIC CHURCH, Marinette, WI on Thursday, May 24, 1990 at 11:00 a.m. Interment will be at FOREST HOME CEMETERY in Marinette. In lieu of flowers, memorials may be made to Alzheimer's Research.



• Cemetery: Forest Home Cemetery [Section Y, Block 25, Lot 3, #6], 24 May 1990, Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States. 10 34
SCHUCK

RAYMOND W.
1911 - 1990


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Raymond married Kathryn Edith Scherer, daughter of John Scherer and Ruth Alta Space, on 15 Jul 1933 in Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States.1 (Kathryn Edith Scherer was born on 29 Mar 1912 in Menominee, Menominee, Michigan, United States 35 36, christened on 14 Apr 1912 in Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States,37 died on 13 Dec 1996 in Madison, Dane, Wisconsin, United States 38 39 40 41 42 43 and was cremated on 10 Jun 1997 in Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States 44 45.) The cause of her death was pulmonary edema and CHF [chronic heart failure].11

bullet  Noted events in their marriage were:



• Marriage: at Our Lady of Lourdes Church, 15 Jul 1933, Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States. 1
15 Jul 1933, Raymond W. Schuck, Kathryn E. Scherer. We, the undersigned, were present at the marriage of Raymond Wm. Schuck and Kathryn Edith Scherer as set forth in the foregoing certificate, at their request, and heard their declaration that they took each other for husband and wife. /s/ Robert J. McCabe and Elizabeth Terese Scherer. Rev. Alvin A. Auer, Our Lady of Lourdes Church, Marinette, Marinette, WI



• Publication: Marinette Eagle Star, 16 Jul 1933, Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States. 46
KATHERINE SCHERER IS BRIDE OF RAY SCHUCK

Miss Katherine Scherer, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. John Scherer, became the bride of Ray Schuck of Chicago Saturday morning in a beautiful ceremony in Our Lady of Lourdes church at 9 o'clock. The Rev. Father Alvin Auer was the celebrant of the nuptial (sic) mass.

The bride wore a modish white suit, with corresponding accessories. Miss Elizabeth Scherer, sister of the bride, was the attendant and she wore a modish coat suit of Eleanor blue, with accessories harmonizing. Robert McCabe, Chicago, was best man. During the mass Miss Carol Russell, R.N, of Chicago, sang and Miss Mary Elizabeth Doran presided at the organ.

The wedding breakfast was served at the home of Mr. and Mrs. Fred Jaeger, 1001 Grant street, Mrs. Jaeger being the bride's sister. The guest group was limited to relatives from this and other cities.

Mr. and Mrs. Schuck departed in the early afternoon for Chicago where they will reside.



• Letter: Anniversary note on a dozen roses, 15 Jul 1954, Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States. 47
Darling –
 
Here's hoping fo another 21 years together.

I love you dear.

Ray

• Travel: to Germany, 15-29 Oct 1980, Worms, , Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany. 48
Kitty and Ray's Trip to Germany

Wednesday, October 15, 1980

Jane and Joe picked us up at 11:30, so we got to the bus early and had to wait a little while. Finally by a quarter of one, we could get out, and find an uncomfortable seat. We had a long stop in Janesville when they changed the drivers but we got to O'Hare on time. The International Terminal, was the first stop, which helped. After checking in we both had to make a pit stop. I phoned the hotel and Carroll told us that Ray [Watson] was okay, and they would be back home tonight, thank goodness.

We went out to the Lufthansa Concourse, and could get aboard at five thirty. Stupid that we were, we said we didn't care if we had a window seat. Next time, we'll know better as we had seats in the center bank. Took off on time, with my ears popping like crazy, even though I had my mouth wide open. They came for drink orders, as we were going over Detroit. We both had scotch and water, and then our dinner came. It was a beef roll up, and mashed potatoes, carrots, peas, shrimp salad, some sliced cucumbers with dill, hard roll, and lemon fluff pudding, and some rye bread and Camembert cheese. Its now nine o'clock and the pilot says we're about fifteen minutes ahead of schedule.

We opened Mark [Jaskowski's] letter. Dad insists he couldn't have printed it, but I know he did. Will try to read and hopefully go to sleep. I pulled up the arm rest between my seat and the one next to me, and folded myself up, pulled a blanket over me and slept until 12:30 our time. Then all the lights came on, and the stewardess came along with hot towels, to drop in your lap, before you could handle them to wipe your faces.

Thursday, October 16

Then we had breakfast. Melon, grapes, croissant, and a sweet Danish roll, orange juice, a heavy smoked sausage, jam and tea. By then we were flying over Ireland, and then London. Right after breakfast, we started to get organized to land. When we did, the passengers all clapped - good landing.

There are a lot of passengers on a 747, so it took quite a while to get off. Then it was a long walk to the baggage claim. I must have looked alright, as some woman came up to me, and helplessly asked me something about Stuttgart. If I could have said, "They moved it" in German, I would have, but all I could do was shrug and look like a dummy.

After getting the luggage, we went through customs, just passed through. And there was John, looking like ten million. Big hugs, and kisses and smiles, almost breaking our faces. Had a short distance to the car, then got our first taste of the Autobahn - This country must have a high rate of coronary attacks. The leaves are just starting to turn, but no frost as yet - Its a gray rainy day.

John's about an hour from Frankfurt [Leiselheim is a village municipality with something over 2000 inhabitants and we belong for more than 50 years to Worms, the oldest city in Germany. Joy of life, life feeling, the cosy atmosphere in the restaurants and the good Leiselheimer wine invite staying in our beautiful suburb. The versatile meetings in the year show the pronounced cultural life.] His apartment is an English basement; living room, bedroom, kitchen and bath. It is very pleasant, and his new/old oriental rug, makes it gorgeous.

We talked for a while, then Ray and I fell apart, and took naps, while John mad a trip to post [Taukkunen Barracks], came home, and we had dinner here. Wild rice, steak, salad, and corn. We'd had a plate of cheeses and crackers and some wine before dinner. Talked some more, phoned Jimmy [James Jay Schuck] and made a date for Monday, planned to go to Cologne tomorrow and decided on an early night. I took a nice hot bath and crawled into a feather comforter and literally died.

Friday, October 17

We've just had breakfast, and are leaving for Cologne. Went to the cathedral, which is huge. The cornerstone was laid in 1172. By agreement it was not bombed during the war. Parts of it are being cleaned. It needs it. It was raining so we only walked around a little.

The King Tut exhibit is here, but the lines are too long for a wait in the rain. We came back to Worms about five, and after some cheese and wine, we went to a place, run by a man who used to be at the Officer's Mess. He won the German lottery, about 1 million! Has a nice place, a lot of army personnel there. I had some fish, super potato salad, and a tossed salad.

Ray and I came home, and John went to school for an hour or so. Ray went to bed early, and we talked, and watched part of the Tonight Show. Then I went to bed, I was tired.

Saturday, October 18

Got up at 7: A.M. And we were on our way to Trier by 7:45. It's a beautiful drive. Checked into a hotel then went to the cathedral. The cloak of Jesus is reportedly here in a crystal enclosed case. We did the church, then walked to the Square. It's lovely, flowers, vegetables, and fruit, and a German band playing. We went to a Konditori for coffee and a roll. Wiped out here - Slept for an hour.

After the coffee we went to the Porte Negra - the gates of the most northern empire of the Romans. There is a small museum in connection and we went through that. By then the car meter [parking] was up and Ray was ready to go back to the hotel. That was a four story, lavender building, very very clean. We had feather puffs on the beds. John and I left Ray and walked to the Roman Baths.

It must have been a beautiful place, and most ingenious. They heated the floors, and walls, and had some heated pools, and some cold. The poor slaves who had to keep it operating. We wandered around there, then went to see the Roman basilica, which is now an Evangelical church.

Saw a beautiful front of a Rococo palace. From what we figured there wasn't much more than the front left, and restored. It makes a beautiful background for the formal gardens though. The flowers are still in bloom, and roses everywhere.

From there we went to a big museum, with huge mosaics, and stone work from the ruins. Back to the hotel where I conked out.

John woke me in and hour and we went to Zum Christophel for dinner. Ray had venison stew while I settled for a very good, but mundane half chicken. John had some lamb, and we had some wine. After that we walked around the square and window shopped for a half hour or so. Then to the hotel, I took a hot shower, and fell into bed.

We never did find out why the town was so full, but there was a shortage of rooms all over. We were lucky to get one and we had to settle for a triple. We thought his mattress was stuffed with mice... it squeaked all night long. It bothered him, more so than us, as I know I was too tired for anything, short of a 7. earthquake, to bother me.

Sunday, October 19

We got up around six o'clock, and had breakfast downstairs. They serve a continental breakfast, and Ray and I each had a soft boiled egg, along with our rolls and coffee.

Packed up the car, and drove down by the river [Mosel] to see the cranes built around 1700, to lift the stones and things from the river barges. All operated by men below, turning big wheels. There are three remaining.

Left for Luxembourg, about 40 mi. It's a banking center, but you notice the difference between the German Trier and the French [French-like] Luxembourg. Stopped quite a few times to see the casements installed by people against the invaders. Some Roman works and the feats of building are almost unbelievable.

After a cup of tea for me, to warm up, we left for Worms. The scenery is beautiful all the way. The ridges are almost mountains, and the fields are all clean and planned for spring plantings. You see acres and acres of grape vines. Its all along the Mosel River. We stopped at an Air Force Base at Wiesbaden, as John needed some things, then back to the house.

Right now we're planning to go to Mannheim for dinner. John's gone to wash the car first, then we leave. We went to pick up Monica and Tom Skinner [Tom works with John].

The Skinners live in government housing. They have a town house, three bed rooms upstairs, a living room, kitchen, dining area, bath, and a rec room and bar in the basement. All new, and very comfortable.

We drove into the Odenwald forest to a wild game restaurant [Gasthaus zur Krone, in Mörlenbach]. Dad had wild boar, John the wild duck, while I settled for a leg of lamb. It is a great 150 year old restaurant, the food is superb. We had a leisurely dinner, dropped the Skinners off on the way home, then came home and went to bed.

Monday, October 20

Today we went to Mainz and saw Claudia and Jimmy [James Jay Schuck]. He looks good, and sounds very grown up. Claudia [Claudia Einecke Schuck] started back to school today. They seem to have their life in order, and know what they plan on doing.

Tuesday, October 21

A beautiful day. Cold but sunny. We drove along the Neckar River above Neckarsteinach, to the Hirschhorn Castle. Passed the four castle corners. Way up on the bluffs are four, almost destroyed remains of these fighting castles. The Hirschhorn is badly damaged, but a much larger fighting and also some living castle. We wandered around, saw a spectacular view from every side, then went into a restaurant now operated in part [of the castle], and had tea for me and coffee for John and Ray.

From there we drove to Erbach [castle] in the Odenwald but that one was closed for noon... two hours. The city is the center of the ivory carving jewelry industry. We looked at some gorgeous things, very expensive.

We went on to Heidelberg, through the old university section, and on up to the Heidelberg Castle. Went through the Apotheke Museum. The largest and oldest in the world. By the time we finished that an English tour of the castle was starting. They do The Student Prince, in the court yard during the summer. In one large room they have concerts occasionally, or you can hold meetings there. There are only a few rooms with furnishings. Saw the chapel and the wine cellar. By then it was dark and getting cold and we all were tired. John had hurt his knee somehow, and he was limping. A ghost must have touched me somewhere, as I had a strange, almost fainting spell, had trouble breathing. It lasted about ten minutes, then I was alright. The altitude I suppose. Came back here [Leiselheim] and had a ham and Spätzle dinner. Then we went over to Mott's, some friends of John's [John and Sheila Mott], and visited while I did some laundry.

Wednesday, October 22

We were going to Stuttgart today but we didn't know how John's knee was going to behave. I said I'd be happy to spend the day here so we went to the Worms Cathedral over to Luther's Monument. We tried to go to the Glass and Porcelain Museum but it is only open from 2 to 4 now that the summer is over. Ray has started a cold and doesn't feel good, so after a stop at the commissary, we brought him home. Opened some soup and John made him some coffee and we left to go to the mall. Its about a six block square area, only pedestrian traffic. All shops and cafés.

We spent a couple hours looking, and I bought some tea glasses in a gorgeous kitchen and china, crystal store. Saw more china patterns than in three Marshall Fields. When it was time to move the car we went to a Chinese place for egg rolls. Strange to hear Orientals speaking German! Then we parked again and went to the museum which was now open.

It's a small museum in what was a magnificent private home. The most beautiful glassware, and china, and porcelain figurines, and a few old paintings. After that we came here, and John is ready to leave for his class.

Thursday, October 23

We left the house at 6:30 and headed for Berchtesgaden. Beautiful country, near Stuttgart, you have to go through the Dragons Back mountains. Then we got to Dachau - the sight is unbelievable. 60,000 people in an area about the size of a football field. The crematorium is in the most beautiful sight. Incongruous! We saw the movie they show, made of films taken by the SS. You have such an eerie feeling, and are ashamed to belong to the same people. Most of all, you are haunted by the fear that it could happen again.

Left there very saddened, and went to Berchtesgaden. A Christmas Card town, with the Alps topped with snow, all surrounding it. We went to the hotel where Hitler's SS stayed [Berchtesgadener Hof]. It is now run by the US Army. You have to go about of the way up to Hitler's Eagles Nest on a steep winding mountain road. The scenery is gorgeous, but somehow you feel an evil spell over it.

We walked around the pedestrian area for a while, then we went to dinner to the Berchtesgaden Hotel It's early now, about 9: PM but we're all beat. Off to Vienna in the morning.

Friday, October 24

Left here about seven thirty, had to go through Salzburg where the filming for The Sound of Music was done. Saw a large cloister at Melk where that portion of the movie was done. Got to Vienna around eleven.

Parked the car and walked on the pedestrian zone. The people were very well dressed and the shops were all exclusive boutiques. Loads of jewelry stores. They must like diamonds and rhinestones. They certainly show a lot of them. Saw the churches of St Stephen and St Peter. Then we walked around the former palaces, and saw the Spanish Riding Academy [Lipizzaner stallions]. There are so many statues, and during the summer the fountains are all running. But the buildings are dirty, and the grounds aren't well kept. You don't see flowers all over, as you do in Germany.

We ate at the Olympia Restaurant, a nice one. Ray and I each had a veal schnitzel, and John had a cheese plate. Good service, and very tasty food. John had never driven in Vienna before and we finally found a road going out of town. The roads aren't marked well at all. You either know the way, or get lost.

Near the edge of town was the Schönbrunn Palace. It was getting late, so we had about an hour and a half. There was a special exhibit on Marie Therese. She must have been quite an Empress - 16 children. It was about 8:30 when we came back to the hotel. Had dinner and we all crashed.

Saturday, October 25

Went to Munich early this morning. Parked near the Fussganger [pedestrian zone], and started walking. The farm market is on Saturday, and such beautiful produce. They have a purple lettuce, which looks like our Boston.

We sat in the Marienplatz and watched the glockenspiel at eleven o'clock. The square was crowded and I heard more English spoken than I have since we've been here. After that we went to the Hofbrau and John and Dad had a liter mug of beer, I started John's, and still don't like it. The waitresses can carry five of those mugs in each hand, and one is heavy. Its a huge place, the oldest in Munich. The beer is made above the first floor, and it comes down a barrel at a time. A man drives a bung hole, and inserts a wooden spigot, and they draw from that, until its empty.

From there we walked around some more, ate chestnuts, did a little shopping then went to the Peterhof for lunch. Neat place, big square oak tables. Ray's cold is bad, he didn't want anything but had another beer. I wanted some soup but the orders were all so big. So I had some tea and shared John's lunch of Leberknodel, kraut, Ripschen, Weisswurst and Kartoffelbrei, and pretzels.

Went to the rest room, and still can't believe how clean they are. Every place except in the PX. Then I wanted to go back to a shop for a feather for a hat, and then we went to the Residence Museum. When Ludwig stayed in town, that's where we stayed. Saw the jewels and many church vessels. Beautiful things, many very intricate.

John had to go to the Post Exchange before five so we left the downtown and went to McGraw Kaserne, on the edge of town. After finishing there, it was pouring again, so we left to come back here in Berchtesgaden. I've been rained on so many times, my hair looks like Bette Midler's. Tomorrow we go back to Worms, and there is no time to get it done, so I am sitting in rollers and hoping I dry soon, so I can go to sleep.

Was sick as a dog for a couple of hours. Think it was the chestnuts and sauerkraut. Whatever, my gall bladder, liver, and everything else rebelled. After a while, after John piled blankets on me and I got warm, I finally went to sleep. I'm afraid he was cold as he'd taken the blankets from his bed.

Sunday, October 26

Felt queezy, but so much better. We went to the hotel for breakfast, as the car was all packed, we took off for Worms. John drove back by a longer route, so we could imprint the mountains on our minds. It had snowed the day before, up there, so they were covered with white. Unbelievably beautiful.

It was a nice day and we were back here about 2:30. John took me to the laundromat and I got the laundry done. The Schopflins (people who own the house) were home from Italy, and asked us to come up. A charming couple. Mrs. Schopflin speaks some English, but Mr. Schopflin understands so, while not speaking it.

We sampled two or three kinds of local wine, and Ray had a cigar and we talked. Frau Schopflin put her Loden coat and hat and scarf out, and Herr Schopflin helped me into them, so I could see how I'd look. She offered to let me wear some things if I needed them. He played the piano, and they sang, and as we left they sang Auf Wiedersehen. Delightful people, and they both seem to like John. She said she felt like his mother. We had a warm, pleasant visit.

Came back here [downstairs, a Mother-In-Law apartment], and fixed some scrambled eggs and cold cuts, and salad. Watched the football game for a while. Got ready to leave early in the morning.

Monday, October 27

Slept like a rock. Am dressed and waiting for Dad to get ready for breakfast. Becky [a lieutenant who sometimes goes on Volksmarches with John] is due around eight and were off to Baden Baden. Becky is tall, blond, and nice, She and I got in the back and talked all the way to Baden Baden. That's a pretty town. John drove around and found a hotel, The Regent, which was right in the center of town, and a pleasant German hotel. As soon as we were checked in, we went out for coffee and kuchen in a Konditori. You sit, and place your order for coffee or tea, then go to a counter and select the kuchen or torte you want, and the waitress brings it to the table with the coffee. That is served on a silver plate, with little tiny silver pitchers of cream, and packaged sugar lumps. Very elegant!

From there Becky and I went window shopping. The stores close for lunch from one to three. We met Ray and John at two thirty. Dad went to the hotel, and we walked to the Trinkhalle, and drank the water. Its 69° C and tasted salty. We all agreed it would be better with a little scotch, or a tea bag. By then we wandered some more and got back to the hotel about 6: PM.

Got cleaned up and went to a place called The Nest. Had a nice bottle of wine. Ray had a pork dinner, Becky a Gypsy steak, John some salmon, and I had a trout, parsley potatoes, and a salad. Boston lettuce, beets, carrots, cabbage, peppers, and cucumbers. Delicious.

From there we went to the casino. That is difficult to describe. Absolutely Rococo grandeur. Oriental rugs, crystal chandeliers the size of our dining room, and many Roulette tables, all busy, and two Black Jack tables, and one Baccarat. Such money being placed. We watched for quite a while, and tried to look like big spenders. Went to the bar and had a drink. They had a cold buffet table that was gorgeous. Becky and I went to the restrooms, expecting to find a place fit for Queen Elizabeth, and no, they must take her to a different one than the other people use. By then it was after eleven so we strolled back to the hotel to crawl under the feather ticks.

Tuesday, October 28

Woke up at seven, and breakfast came with the room, so we went downstairs to the coffee shop. Had fresh rolls, beautiful boiled ham, orange juice, jams, sour cream, cheese, liverwurst, and coffee. They eat over here.

Left the hotel and drove to Strasbourg, France. Saw the cathedral [Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Strasbourg] with the Astrological Clock. When you think it was built and installed in the 1500s, you don't believe it.

It was cold walking around the plaza, so time for tea and coffee and fresh croissants. Then more wandering. Shopping, even window shopping, is fun here. Its all small shops and botiques. Even Cartiers is small. We left there around noon, and headed back to Baden Baden to go through the French PX. We had a rush trip as they too close for lunch until three. Becky had to get back to Weisbaden, so we headed back to Worms.

We stopped here to see the oldest synagogue in Western Europe, built in 1100. There was a sign saying the caretaker was sick, so we didn't get in to see it. Came back to the house. Becky left and we're due upstairs at the Schopflin's for neu wein and onion bread, at six.

Its called Zwiebelkuchen. Its a yeast bread, thin in a quiche pan, with chopped onions, lots of bacon, and caraway, with a beaten egg poured over. Something like a pizza - served hot and absolutely delicious. The wine for the women is only three days old, tastes something like apple cider. The men had that, and then some 8 day wine. It's supposed to be medicinal.

Mike Horton was due about seven, so we came down to wait for him. He's a barrel of energy, a great talker and laugher. A fun man. We went to Carlo's - had a super cordon bleu, and more wine - then came back here for another bottle or two. He left about eleven, to go back to his base [Bad Kreuznach], about 40 Km away.

Wednesday, October 29

Got up to watch the debate [Carter-Reagan Presidential Debate]. John had set the radio, then a little later the sound had waken him up, and he put on the TV. We weren't impressed with either one. The TV signed off when it was over, and I crawled back into bed for an hour.

We met Jimmy at the Bahnhof at 7:30 and headed for Rothenberg [ob der Tauber]. Heavy, gray skies, which we thought would break. By the time we got to the city, it was raining lightly. We parked and went to the Christmas Shop [Kathe Wohlfahrt's], where I did a little shopping. Then to a Konditori for tea and a Black Forest torte for me. Jimmy had Rothenberger ballen, John a Rum torte - dad only coffee. Shared a table with two girls who were there at the Gothe Institute, studying German.

From there we went to watch the clock strike eleven. When it does two windows open, showing a man with a three liter stein, in one and a nobleman in the other. The man had to drink the wine in one drought to save the city. After he does, the nobleman motions it's all right. Then the window closes.

The legend began in 1631, while the Thirty Years war was raging between Catholics and Protestants. Rothenburg, a Protestant town, was about to be overrun by a Catholic army. Just before the carnage was to begin, the Catholic general offered a deal. If anyone could drink a three-liter tankard of wine in one gulp, the town would be spared.

Rothenburg's mayor rushed forward to take the challenge. Mayor Nusch grabbed the tankard, swilled down the wine in one gulp, and passed out for three days while the town rejoiced over his extraordinary commitment to civic duty. This magic Meistertrunk moment is immortalized in the clock on the Councilors' Tavern on the Marktplatz. This is the same building where the tourist information office is located. At certain hours during the day, the clock's figures reenact Mayor Nusch's sacrificial gulp for his people while the Catholic general eggs him on.


From there we went to the historical museum. Rothenburg is a walled city, with most of the walls standing. You drive through a series of thick gates to get in or out. From there we went to the torture museum. Such horrors they performed, often for the least infractions. Saw a lot of instruments of torture, plus many decrees etc. By then it was raining hard, and the stores close until three, so we left.

Took another route and stopped in a little town of Uffenheim for lunch. Not the best place we've eaten. I had a bowl of goulash soup, Ray some sausages, John some brats, Jimmy a Jagerschnitzel, and they had beer while I had tea. We went back to the car in the rain and started home. Got back here about 4:40. Jimmy had a sandwich and left with John at six to get his train back to Meinz, and John to his class.

We've seen and done so much in these two weeks here. I'll need a couple of weeks at home to try and put it all in perspective. Its been the trip of a lifetime and I'll be eternally grateful to John for giving it to us.

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When I first received US Army orders for my second tour in Germany, I approached my parents and invited them to visit me there. It would give both of them the opportunity to see their ancestral homeland. It would also give me the pleasure of being their guide. The first response I had to my invitation was a warm, "That would be nice... we'll see."

I knew I would need to have help swaying them to really accept the offer and I asked my brothers and sisters to also work on them. Dad was always reluctant to commit. He was always, Too busy to get away..." whenever. Finally, with the rest of the family badgering them, dad told mother that she could accept the invitation for them. Mother replied that he had been dragging his feet all the while and that he should write to me to tell me to get the tickets.

He did write and it has been a great disappointment that in my excitement I did not think to keep that letter. Dad thanked me for the invitation and told me how he and mother were looking forward to that trip. It was the only letter I remember having had from him and it would be priceless to me today. I did learn later through my siblings that dad would tell his fellow workers and friends how his son had given them the trip and how proud he was of that.

Mother kept a running journal of their adventure and Jane found the book in a box in her basement in April, 2007. What appears above is a transcript of her travels: [Wm. John Schuck]



• Marriage: and celebrated their 50th Wedding Anniversary, 15 Jul 1983, Chesterfield, St. Louis, Missouri, United States. 49  
James Michael, Judith Ann, Raymond William, Kathryn Jane, Kathryn Edith (Kitty), William John, and Jarold Raymond

• Letter: from Fritz and Jean Jaeger to Jere and Susan Schuck, 17 Dec 2006, Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States. 50
Really enjoyed your Christmas letter- read it three times. So good to learn more about you.

When you get a chance would you send me any old copies you have via the eMail? Or some pictures so I can or just send me a chart with the kids names that are on the pictures. Make believe I was at a family re-union and introduce me to them with thumb nail sketches.

you refer to them by name but cant put the face to them except for the headmast - you only got one like that. You guys look good but the kids look great - like they should. We currently have some at every stage of life and it is the greatest think that ever happened and is happening to us... and your family helped us a lot -- thinking back generations that is.

Uncle Ray and Aunt Kitty lived on Newberry street across Grant street thru the neighbors yard, an alley next to Johnsons and there you were all of you with a nice garden of fresh corn and vegetables and lots of action was I lucky or what? 21 first cousins in Marinette when I was raised and you were 5 of them.

Uncle Rick, Aunt Marg and their 6 were on Pierce avenue 2 blocks away; the Scherer family lived across from the high school about 8 blocks I can remember for sure the count there; the Grills with 5 lived on Stanton about one block east (5 there) Uncle Chris and Aunt Emma with their five lived next door to the Aerial on Hosmer Street with 5 more and Uncle Lee and Aunt Elda Olsen lived on Lake Street in the heart of Menekaunee with Paul Lee Jr, Donna Mae. And there were the Lindsays that I didn't know as well but went to school with them...and it fills it out plenty enough to help raise me to what I am.

When your family lived on Carney at the beginning I spent a lot of nights there. Many times your dad and some of you would walk to Peterson's Drug Store about 10 blocks to get butter pecan ice cream... what a treat we would enjoy with much love and laughter. Uncle Ray and Aunt Kitty were the most fun of all the Uncles and Aunts... for kids like me... And when my mom and dad were on a territory or on the road I might find a note on our door, "Go over and spend a few nights with the kids and your Uncle Ray and Aunt Kitty -- will see you Friday, Love Mom"

And I did it and it was a treat because Aunt Betty was 10 years older and married and lived on Liberty Street with uncle Gil... and I was a latch key guy before we heard the expressions of today but every one didn't have as many cousins and aunts and uncles like I did... they weren't that lucky as me.

I run on... but sure glad for the letter, please keep Jean and I on the list.

Love your Dad's sense of humor and your Mom's talent and vigor... she was like another sister to me... my favorite one.

Love Fritz


bullet  Marriage Notes:


Dad was working for the Treasurer's office of the City of Chicago. We had met when Aunt Biz was working at the Stevens Hotel, and was dating Ray Delp, who was working for the Grey Line Tours Sightseeing. Dad was working summers as a Tour Guide. Anyhow, we decided to get married. Dad was earning a magnificent salary of $45.00 per week. By December his job was eliminated and there just weren't any jobs at any salary. Finally late in Jan we went to Joliet. By March I was pregnant, which I surely didn't need. In June I left and went to Marquette, Michigan where Uncle John and Aunt Laura were trying to run a hotel. That didn't work, and by late fall I was in Chicago where Jim was born. Uncle Fred went to Joliet and got Dad and put him to work at the Aerial at $40.00 per month. WPA paid $44.00, but we managed somehow. We lived on veal at 10 cents per pound and potatoes and rutabagas which Uncle Rick kept bringing home. Finally Dad got raised to $60.00 per month and we moved to a heated flat on Carney Blvd, and my mother lived with us. The twins were born there.

By the time Jim was going on four, we moved to Newberry, where you [Wm John] were born. Mother went to Chicago, while we were moving, and died shortly after she'd arrived at Aunt Gert's, where Aunt Biz lived with Gert and Bill. Then Plouffs' had to sell the big house and they wanted the little house, so we moved to the house on Carney, where Jane was born. Thompsons lived a couple doors from us, and Kerskie's next door. Clarice Kerskie died about a month ago. We lived there 8 years and then a year in that terrible house on Logan, and froze to death. Continue later, some of this hurts too much, I can't handle it right now.
[Kathryn Scherer Schuck]

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I suddenly remember that I went to Chicago and stayed with the newlyweds in the tiniest apartment I ever saw. There was a garbage drop door in the wall above the sink. Little did I know there was a matching door in the hall. As I put the garbage in, your Dad grabbed my hand from the hall. I was so surprised and had hysterics. What a nite that was and how sorry he was. Another memory nugget for you. Your Dad was still working for the bus company and had some of his friends over, so the apartment was full. I had forgotten your Dad was a trickster and a tease.
[Betty Jaeger Gilbertson]

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16 Nov 1945
Himeji Japan
Naval Air Station

Hi Aunt Kitty and Uncle Ray -
Jim Jer Judy John & Jane (by order of rank)


Greetings from Commando Bong Jaeger - Heck, already I've destroyed more planes than Maj. Bong - 25 yesterday - all fighters too - latest type - "George" some Zeroes & Berries too - l300 Machine guns - bomb sights - gee - do I ever have fun -

Spent most of this morning teaching the new replacements how to take their carbines apart to clean them - this battery is about 90% replacements - including officers - 5 of the 6 officers joined the battery since last week - all the old officers are now on their way home - this Div fought thru New Guinea - Philippines -

So - we have a real job on our hands - our replacements were Inf. basics - have never even seen an artillery piece fired - Joe & I are the only officers in the battery who can fire the battery on any problems - the others have never fired indirect fire - so you can see what type of troops MacArthur has over here -

These Japs arc crazy little people - Joe is like a giant & I even feel pretty big - there aren't many troops here - our Bn. - about 400 men - is responsible for a strip about 30 miles wide - from the East coast to the West - & we are on the main island of Honshu - this Jap lingo is kinda tough - but I am learning a few phrases -

Quite a contrast here - lots of electricity - modern transformers & sub-station - hi tension wires all over - and right under the wires some farmer is tilling a field - about 20 yds long & 15 wide - cause there are 20 other farmers in the same area - he either pulls the plow himself - or he has a (caribou)? - old dirt roads - people pulling their carts along on them - then a powerful toot here comes the police chief in a Packard - he is top man in the village - and then too - the ever present Jeep - the people are very poor - they work hard & earn 6-8 yen a day - 1 yen equals about 6 2/3¢ -

We are paid in Jap invasion currency & American money is taboo -
I found a couple of swell cases of china - we are using them in our mess - I was afraid to ship them home -

My room is cozy - stove - chintz curtains (I hung em myself) desk - cot - wardrobe - lamps - drawers - pictures on the wall even - I've got 4 cute kids rite over the desk - kind of an aim in my postwar planning - & I'm still waiting for the 5th picture - make my planning more interesting.

Love and Kisses
Fritz

P.S. We have all the Jap beer we can drink - every G. I. has a case - they say it is OK - I say so too.
[Frederick Henry Jaeger II]

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I think it was a Scherer trait that you swap kids from time to time, I know there was a considerable amount of it done when we were kids. It was very frequent especially for Mary and I. Dad would put me on the train and we would take the "milk run" to Marinette. We sometimes would be all alone but we never thought about it. Aunt Kitty or Uncle Ray would be at the other end to pick us up. It was neat and I enjoyed the trips.

I have a strawberry story to tell , your story about the Strawberry Hat reminded me of it. One day while I was visiting I was riding one of you around in a stroller. It was a hot, hot sticky day and we wanted something cold and something to eat. Jimmy said, "what are we going have for supper? I'm getting hungry." You mom said, "Jim, it's too darn hot to cook and it's too darn hot to eat so we're having strawberry shortcake." This seemed like quite a diversion to me because my dad, being a meat and potatoes type guy, always had that at least once a day, no matter what the weather. But this day your mother plunked down the most humoungous strawberry shortcake, piled higher than I ever saw one and it was loaded with berries and whipped cream. It was luscious and it was the first time I ever had a whole dinner of strawberry shortcake.

I always remember Ray as a smooth talker who was always happy to see us and always made us feel really welcome. I especially remember that he constantly had his wonderful pipe in his mouth. It was really his trademark. [Barbara Scherer Harp]

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Kitty Is Home

It seems only a few ''yesterdays'' since I was in the depot in Chicago to catch the Chicago and Northwestern '400' back home. The announcement ''...train for the Twin Cities now boarding on Track 14,'' started me reaching for my bags when mother said ''that's not for Marinette Menominee, that is for Minneapolis St. Paul.'' How could they do that? The only twin cities I knew were the Wisconsin and Michigan cities bordering the Menominee River and the Green Bay. I had grown up there all my life! it was home and had always been so. Now we were coming home to our twin cities again.

My brothers and sisters and I had returned seven years ago to bring dad to rest at Forest Home. We boys live on both coasts now and in Missouri. Both girls live in Wisconsin but then there was no opportunity to stay long. We did notice that our old Pierce Avenue house was about to collapse and that the 'mountain' we used to sled down at City Park had grown considerably shorter than our mind's eye remembered. Other than that, we were busy and had to go on with our lives. Yesterday we again returned to bring mother home. We brought her to rest alongside dad. She had been at his side for 57 years.

Born at St. Joseph's in Menominee, she grew up in Marinette. Like her brother and sisters, she also went to Our Lady of Lourdes. She had to work very hard to finish with her classmates. She and her sister had moved to Chicago during high school but they each returned to Marinette to live with older sisters in their senior year to finish with their friends. After school she returned to Chicago to work. There she met dad, and went back again to Marinette to marry him. She raised the five of us among family and friends and stayed until all were almost grown before moving to many temporary cities because of dad's nomadic career. They settled down, finally, in Madison but still she often returned home to see family and friends.

Mom would have loved the gathering after mass. The children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren were there to say good-bye. So were her nephews and nieces,... and old school friends too. We met her newest granddaughter Jill, only a month away from a July wedding with Steve. In some ways' mom was there. In the laughter and memories of everyone. In the confusion of the day. At one time her voice sounded like Jane as she directed the hotel staff to set up more tables, ''we have more family coming.'' Another time her voice was Jim's as he directed the unenthusiastic staff to serve what the family asked, they were paying good money for the service.

She would have laughed with her chicks as they went off to Victory Beach to be together and watch the children swim. She would have favored the choice to change to Henes Park, our old favorite. Our convoy of six cars drove past the entrance. It has been 40 years since dad would take off his jacket, loosen his tie just a little, roll up his cuffs two turns and get comfortable for a picnic there. We put Amanda and Kyle in the water and took off our shoes and socks and waded in with them. Then, deciding to have supper together, the Schucks took off on another adventure.

We thought of going to Schlöegles, a 'new' place but then it was suggested that we go to the old Silver Dome which brought back thoughts of an elegant place to dine. We were off to the races! Some to their hotel to change clothes and some to go ahead and make reservations for sixteen in what should obviously be a crowded restaurant. When the advance party arrived there was not one car in the lot of the now faded nightspot. The menu had Marinette Mexican and alligator and when the bartender was asked how the food was she replied, ''not bad.''

Both the choice remark and the dilapidated state of the place set us off back across the Menekaunee Bridge to Michigan and Schlöegles but it was now after eight and the sidewalk had been rolled up. Jim remembered seeing another place across from Victory Beach so we took off and descended on the place ten minutes before closing. Rushing in to set a reservation for sixteen to a wide-eyed kitchen staff of a café ready to close, we soon found that Jim had made arraignments at a different place a few doors away. We were too tired to move! We stayed and talked. Mother would have enjoyed the humor of it all.

All told, it was a day of reminiscing. Family had been together, new members had been welcomed, old members had been seen again, some for the first time in forty years. Yesterday we all returned to the twin cities. Kitty is home. [Wm. John Schuck] 51 52 53 54 55

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2 County Clerk, Vital Records of Will County, IL (Will County Clerk, 302 N Chicago Street, Joliet, IL 60432-4060, (815) 740-4615), Bk. 122, Pg. 110, Cert. No. 26932, Birth Record.  
Schuck, Raymond William.

3 Sr. Mary Ann Schnelker, OSF, Registrar, Joliet Catholic Academy Alumni Transcripts (See details), 1200 N Larkin Avenue, Joliet, IL 60435, (815) 741-0500, 09 Jan 1996.  
Schuck, Raymond W. son of William Schuck
01/26/1911 - Date of Birth.

4 1920 US Census, Roll: T625_415; 12 Jan 1920; Joliet Ward 2, Will, Illinois; Page: 2B; Ln 69-74; ED: 181; Mary A. Pell, Enumerator; Image: 1140; Dist 15, 209 Cass St.  
Schuck, Raymond Son M W 8 S Yes Illinois Illinois None.

5 Social Security Administration, Social Security Death Index (see details, Social Security Administration, Office of Public Inquiries, Windsor Park Building, 6401 Security Blvd., Baltimore, MD 21235, http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/ssdi/main.htm), 22 Jan 2003.  
b>R W SCHUCK Born 26 Jan 1911.

6 Register of Deeds, Vital Records of Dane County, WI (Dane County Register of Deeds, P.O. Box 1438, 210 Martin Luther King Blvd., Rm 110, Madison, WI 53701-1438, (608) 266-4141), 21 May 1990, Death Certificate.  
Raymond William Schuck d 20 May 1990.

7 Editor, The Wisconsin State Journal (see details, The Wisconsin State Journal, Madison Newspapers, Inc., P. O. Box 8056, Madison, WI 53708), 21 May 1990, Obituary.  
MADISON - Raymond W. Schuck died on May 20...

8 Social Security Administration, Social Security Death Index (see details, Social Security Administration, Office of Public Inquiries, Windsor Park Building, 6401 Security Blvd., Baltimore, MD 21235, http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/ssdi/main.htm), 22 Jan 2003.  
R W SCHUCK Died 20 May 1990.

9 Editor, The Wisconsin State Journal (see details, The Wisconsin State Journal, Madison Newspapers, Inc., P. O. Box 8056, Madison, WI 53708), 21 May 1990, Obituary.  
Interment will be at FOREST HOME CEMETERY in Marinette.

10 Records and or photos, Forest Home Cemetery, Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States (see details, Forest Home Cemetery and Mausoleum, 2420 Mary Street, Marinette, WI 54143-3104, (715) 732-5140 or (715) 732-5173), 24 May 1990.
SCHUCK
RAYMOND W.
1911 - 1990.

11 Register of Deeds, Vital Records of Dane County, WI (Dane County Register of Deeds, P.O. Box 1438, 210 Martin Luther King Blvd., Rm 110, Madison, WI 53701-1438, (608) 266-4141), 21 May 1990, Death Certificate.  
Ventricular fibrillation; Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Robert O. Burns, MD, Medical Certifier, License No. 13203.

12 Kathryn Edith Scherer Schuck (1912-1996), Family Group Record of Kathryn (Kitty) Edith Scherer Schuck, 04 Aug 1995, Letter to W John Schuck.  
Attended Kindergarten and 1st grade at St. Mary's Academy...

13 Barbara Ann Schuck Rosales, Family Group Record of Barbara Ann Schuck Rosales (c/o William John Schuck, 8851 81st Av SW, Lakewood, WA 98498), 15 Jan 1996 to W John Schuck.  
My dad told me this story about your dad...

14 Editor, The Joliet Daily News (see details, Joliet Herald News, 300 Caterpillar Dr, Joliet, IL 60436-1097, (815) 729-6161), 22 May 1931.  
Raymond W. Schuck, son of Mr. and Mrs. William Schuck, who is attending Loyola University...

15 Editor, The Marinette Eagle-Star (see details, EagleHerald, P.O. Box 77, 1809 Dunlap Ave, Marinette, WI, 54143-1706, (715) 735-6611), 24 Nov 1944.  
Aerial Cutlery to Hold Ceremony...

16 William John Schuck, Family Group Record of William John Schuck (8851 81st Av SW, Lakewood, WA 98498), 06 Jan 1996.  
During WW II he worked as the Treasurer, Aerial Cutlery...

17 Register of Deeds, Vital Records of Dane County, WI (Dane County Register of Deeds, P.O. Box 1438, 210 Martin Luther King Blvd., Rm 110, Madison, WI 53701-1438, (608) 266-4141), 21 May 1990, Death Certificate.  
Ventricular fibrillation; Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Other significant conditions: Pneumonia; B-12 deficiency; Alzheimer's.

18 County Clerk, Vital Records of Will County, IL (Will County Clerk, 302 N Chicago Street, Joliet, IL 60432-4060, (815) 740-4615).

19 1920 US Census, Roll: T625_415; 12 Jan 1920; Joliet Ward 2, Will, Illinois; Page: 2B; Ln 69-74; ED: 181; Mary A. Pell, Enumerator; Image: 1140; Dist 15, 209 Cass St.

20 Rt. Rev. Msgr. F. A. Purcell, D. D, De La Salle High School (De La Salle High School, (Joliet Catholic Academy), 1205 N Larkin Av, Joliet, IL 60435), 11 Jun 1928, Pg 3.  
De La Salle High School Commencement Program
Raymond W. Schuck.

21 Sr. Mary Ann Schnelker, OSF, Registrar, Joliet Catholic Academy Alumni Transcripts (See details), 1200 N Larkin Avenue, Joliet, IL 60435, (815) 741-0500, 11 Jun 1928.  
Schuck, Raymond W. son of William Schuck
209 Cass Street
Joliet, Illinois
01/26/1911 - Date of Birth
09/03/1924 - Date of Entrance to DeLaSalle High School
Entered from St. John School 06/11/1928 - Date of Graduation.

22 1930 US Census, Roll: 568; Joliet, Will, Illinois; Page: 2A; ED: 22; April 3, 1930, Ln 27-32, 209 Cass St, Image: 232.0.

23 Editor, The Joliet Daily News (see details, Joliet Herald News, 300 Caterpillar Dr, Joliet, IL 60436-1097, (815) 729-6161), 22 May 1931.  
Raymond W. Schuck, son of Mr. and Mrs. William Schuck, who is attending Loyola University, Chicago, has been recently elected to Pi Gamma Mu, national honorary social science fraternity. Qualifications for membership consist in high scholastic standing and outstanding ability in social science study. Mr. Schuck has been an honor student at Loyola ever since his graduation from De La Salle high school.

24 Robert N Kelley, SJ, President, University of Loyola, University of Loyola, Bachelor of Science and Commerce (8 Jun 1932, University of Loyola, Chicago, Cook, IL), Diploma.
LOYOLA UNIVERSITY of CHICAGO
For the Greater Glory of God
To all Who See These Letters
Greetings in the Lord


When, indeed, it is fitting and the custom of the Masters, who implanted in these graduates the eternal truths from above, and by which these graduates, who stand here, are set apart from those less educated, and are recognized by this acclamation. On this occasion we declare to those here present that these graduates have met the standards required by public law and in customary session of our Faculty have awarded

Raymond William Schuck
alumnus of our beloved Loyola University
The degree of Bachelor of Science in Business Administration
And all the rights and privileges which pertain to this degree.

Given in Chicago, the eight day of June 1932
With best wishes
Robert M. Kelly Jr.
President



Universitas Loyolaea
A.M.D.G.
Chicagiensis
Omnibus Has Literas Visuris
Salutem in Domino

Quandoquidem æquum est et a majoribus institutem ut qui ingenioet doctrina aeteris præstant merita, qua secernantur ab illiterates, insigniantur laurea, Nos ad id nuneris publica auctoritate deligati, certiores facimus omnes, ad quos præsentes pervenerint
Raimundum Gulielmum Schuck
Dilectum Universitatis nostræ Loyalaeæ almnum ad gradum
Scientiae Commerrialis Baccalaureatus
Insolemni nostræ Facultatis sessione fuisse provectum, eumque singulis juribus et privelegiis ad istum gradum pertinentibus, a nobis fuisse donatum.

Datum in urbe Chicagine die octavo mensis Junii anno Reparatae salutis millesimo nongentesimo trigesimo secundo.

/s/ Robertus M. Kelley Jr.
Prases
.

25 Frederick H. Jaeger, Aerial Cutlery Company, Army-Navy "E" Award (Department of War, 24 Nov 1944, Marinette, WI), Award. Raymond W. Schuck... contributed greatly to the winning of the Army - Navy "E" Award for Outstanding Production of War Materials

26 Editor, The Marinette Eagle-Star (see details, EagleHerald, P.O. Box 77, 1809 Dunlap Ave, Marinette, WI, 54143-1706, (715) 735-6611), 24 Nov 1944.

27 William John Schuck, Family Group Record of William John Schuck (8851 81st Av SW, Lakewood, WA 98498), 16 Dec 1996.  
He was an accountant from 1932 until 1984. Some of the firms where he worked include the Aerial Cutlery Co, Marinette, WI; George S. May Co, Chicago IL; JOB Corps, RCA, Stevens Point, WI; University of Wisconsin, Madison, WI...

28 Social Security Administration, Social Security Death Index (see details, Social Security Administration, Office of Public Inquiries, Windsor Park Building, 6401 Security Blvd., Baltimore, MD 21235, http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/ssdi/main.htm), 22 Jan 2003.  
R W SCHUCK  SSN    392-03-1492 Residence: 53711 Madison, Dane, WI Born    26 Jan 1911 Died    20 May 1990    Issued: WI (Before 1951).

29 William John Schuck, Family Group Record of William John Schuck (8851 81st Av SW, Lakewood, WA 98498), 18 Sep 1952, Letter from Lawrence Schuck to Raymond Schuck.

30 William John Schuck, Family Group Record of William John Schuck (8851 81st Av SW, Lakewood, WA 98498),  
John, Ray, Mark Lybrand, Jane, Paul Jaskowski, Judy, Susan Rouse Schuck, Steve[b], Daniel [f], James [b], Claudia Eineke Schuck [f], Mary [f], Polly Jaskowski f], Susan, Chris [b], Mark Jaskowski [f], Barbara, Richard Matthews [b], Liz Dunn Schuck [f], Laura, Lydia Lybrand, Greg, Kathryn, Jarold, Bea Martin Schuck, Jim.

31 Editor, The Wisconsin State Journal (see details, The Wisconsin State Journal, Madison Newspapers, Inc., P. O. Box 8056, Madison, WI 53708), 21 May 1990, Obituary.  
He was retired from the Administrative Research Department of the University of Wisconsin in July, 1984.

32 Register of Deeds, Vital Records of Dane County, WI (Dane County Register of Deeds, P.O. Box 1438, 210 Martin Luther King Blvd., Rm 110, Madison, WI 53701-1438, (608) 266-4141), 21 May 1990, Death Certificate.

33 Editor, The Wisconsin State Journal (see details, The Wisconsin State Journal, Madison Newspapers, Inc., P. O. Box 8056, Madison, WI 53708).

34 see details, URL, Internet, Find A Grave.

35 County Clerk, Vital Records of Menominee County, MI (Menominee County Clerk, 839 10th Ave, Menominee, MI 49858-3000, (906) 863-9968), 29 Mar 1912, Rcd 73, Birth Record.  
Katherine Edith Scherer, Parents; John Scherer, Alta Space, Occupation of Father, Supt. of Saw Mill, Date of Record, July 3, 1912.

36 Social Security Administration, Social Security Death Index (see details, Social Security Administration, Office of Public Inquiries, Windsor Park Building, 6401 Security Blvd., Baltimore, MD 21235, http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/ssdi/main.htm), 22 Jan 2003.  
KATHRYN SCHUCK Born 29 Mar 1912.

37 Priest, Pastor, or Minister, Church Record (see details), 14 Apr 1912, Our Lady of Lourdes.  
I hereby certify, that Kathryn Edith, daughter of John Scherer and Alta Space, was born March 29, 1912 and baptized Apr 14, 1912. Sponsors Jacob Scherer, Edith Kehl. /s/ F. G. Tulley, Rector, Our Lady of Lourdes Church.

38 Register of Deeds, Vital Records of Dane County, WI (Dane County Register of Deeds, P.O. Box 1438, 210 Martin Luther King Blvd., Rm 110, Madison, WI 53701-1438, (608) 266-4141), 17 Dec 1996, Death Certificate.  
Kathryn Edith Schuck d December 13, 1996.

39 Editor, The Marinette EagleHerald (see details, EagleHerald, P.O. Box 77, 1809 Dunlap Ave, Marinette, WI, 54143-1706, (715) 735-6611), 14 Dec 1996, Obituary.  
Kathryn (Kitty) Edith Scherer Schuck died on Friday, December 13, 1996...

40 Editor, The Wisconsin State Journal (see details, The Wisconsin State Journal, Madison Newspapers, Inc., P. O. Box 8056, Madison, WI 53708), 15 Dec 1996, Obituary.  
Kathryn (Kitty) Edith Scherer Schuck died on Friday, December 13, 1996...

41 Editor, The Marinette EagleHerald (see details, EagleHerald, P.O. Box 77, 1809 Dunlap Ave, Marinette, WI, 54143-1706, (715) 735-6611), 07 Jun 1997, Pg A5, Obituary.  
Kathryn E. (Scherer) Schuck, formerly of Marinette, died Dec 13, 1996, in Madison, memorial mass Tuesday, noon, Holy Family Parish, Taylor Street, Marinette.

42 Social Security Administration, Social Security Death Index (see details, Social Security Administration, Office of Public Inquiries, Windsor Park Building, 6401 Security Blvd., Baltimore, MD 21235, http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/ssdi/main.htm), 22 Jan 2003.  
KATHRYN SCHUCK Died 13 Dec 1996.

43 Records and or photos, Forest Home Cemetery, Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, United States (see details, Forest Home Cemetery and Mausoleum, 2420 Mary Street, Marinette, WI 54143-3104, (715) 732-5140 or (715) 732-5173), 13 Dec 1996.
SCHUCK
KATHRYN E.
1912 - 1996.

44 Editor, The Marinette EagleHerald (see details, EagleHerald, P.O. Box 77, 1809 Dunlap Ave, Marinette, WI, 54143-1706, (715) 735-6611), 14 Dec 1996, Obituary.  
In the spring of 1997 a memorial service and interment will take place at Forest Home Cemetery in Marinette.

45 Editor, The Marinette EagleHerald (see details, EagleHerald, P.O. Box 77, 1809 Dunlap Ave, Marinette, WI, 54143-1706, (715) 735-6611), 07 Jun 1997, Pg A5, Obituary.  
Kathryn E. (Scherer) Schuck, formerly of Marinette, died Dec 13, 1996, in Madison, memorial mass Tuesday, noon, Holy Family Parish, Taylor Street, Marinette. Burial at Forest Home Cemetery.

46 Editor, The Marinette Eagle-Star (see details, EagleHerald, P.O. Box 77, 1809 Dunlap Ave, Marinette, WI, 54143-1706, (715) 735-6611), 16 Jul 1933.

47 William John Schuck, Family Group Record of William John Schuck (8851 81st Av SW, Lakewood, WA 98498), 15 Jul 1954.

48 Kathryn Edith Scherer Schuck (1912-1996), Family Group Record of Kathryn (Kitty) Edith Scherer Schuck, Daily Journal, 15-29 Oct 1980.

49 William John Schuck, Family Group Record of William John Schuck (8851 81st Av SW, Lakewood, WA 98498), 15 Jul 1983.

50 Frederick Henry Jaeger Jr., Family Group Record of Frederick (Fritz) Henry Jaeger Jr. (c/o William John Schuck, 8851 81st Av SW, Lakewood, WA 98498), 17 Dec 2006, eMail.
Really enjoyed your Christmas letter- read it three times...

51 Kathryn Edith Scherer Schuck (1912-1996), Family Group Record of Kathryn (Kitty) Edith Scherer Schuck, 27 Aug 1995 to W John Schuck.  
Dad was working for the Treasurer's office of the City of Chicago...

52 Margaret Elizabeth Jaeger Gilbertson (1915-2001), Family Group Record of Margaret Elizabeth (Betty) Jaeger Gilbertson, 29 Jun 1997 to W John Schuck.  
I suddenly remember that I went to Chicago...

53 Frederick Henry Jaeger Jr., Family Group Record of Frederick (Fritz) Henry Jaeger Jr. (c/o William John Schuck, 8851 81st Av SW, Lakewood, WA 98498), 16 Nov 1945.  
16 Nov 1945, Himeji Japan, Naval Air Station...

54 Barbara Jean Scherer Harp (1932-2005), Family Group Record of Barbara Jean Scherer Harp, 10 Jun 1997.  
I think it was a Scherer trait that you swap kids from time to time...

55 William John Schuck, Family Group Record of William John Schuck (8851 81st Av SW, Lakewood, WA 98498), 10 Jun 1997.  
Kitty Is Home...

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