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We are trying to identify the father of John Smith who married Margaret Meyers. She was the daughter of Leonard Meyers and a granddaughter of Capt. John W Meyers. There are so many "John Smiths" around that it is proving a challenge. The working hypothesis is that Jacob George Smith who was granted lot 15, concession 1 in Sidney is the father of George Smith and the grandfather of John Smith. I would like to thank Eric Bowler, Peter Johnson and Anne Redish for all their enthusiasm and help.
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Peter Johnson has proposed the following. That Jacob SMITH Sr. UE 1726-1790 is not on Executive Council List because of his early death date. He settled and died in Fredericksburg.
His son Jacob George SMITH UE, 1741 - aft 1796, is granted Lot 15, Con 1, Sidney. He is the one who petitions in 1796 below and is listed as Jacob "Sr" on Executive Council List.
George SMITH, 1771 - 1847, is the son of the above Jaconb George SMITH and he takes over the farm on Lot 15, Con 1, Sidney and leaves a will. So far the lineage seems to be solid. George names 9 children in his will and two of his sons are John and Peter.
So far we hypothesize that John George SMITH 1794 - 1881/91 m. Marg't MEYERS is one of his sons. Also, Peter SMITH, 1797 - 1861 who settled on Lot 7, Con 4, Sidney is another son. Both are presented below.
|2. FIRST THERE WAS JACOB SMITH UE OF FREDERICKSBURG (1726 - 1790)
This Jacob Schmitt is not on the UE list due to his early death. We feel that this Jacob Schmitt of Fredericksburg is the father of Jacob George Smith who was granted lot 15, con 1, in Sidney in 1796. What record gives his birth as 1726?
3 Aug 1788, Jacob Schmitt, 3rd twp [Fredericksburg] & Elizabeth Frez, of same, Witnesses; Peter Bowen, Margaret Schmitt, Nicholas Schmitt
Source: Anglican Registers 1787-1814, Rev John Langhorn, Lorel and Mildred Wanamaker, OGS, Kingston Branch, 1980, 2
Jacob SCHMITT, Fredericksburg, 10 Sept 1790
Source: Anglican Registers 1787-1814, Rev John Langhorn, Lorel and Mildred Wanamaker, OGS, Kingston Branch, 1980, burials, 82
Also in Fredericksburg there are:
Nicholas Schmitt who dies in 1789.
Philip & Hannah Schmitt who have a dau Peggy Schmitt in 1788.
Margaret Schmitt m. William Rombough in 1789.
Philip & Hannah Schmitt who have a son Nicholas Schmitt in 1791.
Philip & Hannah Schmitt son Nicholas Schmitt buried in 1793.
Michael & Catrina Schmitt who have a son George, 1789.
Michael & Catrina Schmitt who have a son Jacob, 1791.
Johan George Schmitt & Susana Lucas m. 1795.
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|3. THEN THERE WAS JACOB SMITH OF SIDNEY (1741 - aft 1796)
Jacob George Smith, commonly known as Jacob, was granted lot 15, con 1 and 2 in 1787 as part of the 450 acres that he was to receive. In 1796 Jacob George Smith and John Lott petitioned for the remaining 50 acres. Jacob said he had a wife and 6 children. In 1810 Arra Rose claims Jacob died about 20 years before - thus 1790 - but he petitioned in 1796 so it is possible he died shortly after 1796. Arra Rose below, firmly establishes that George Smith is the son of Jacob and lived on lot 15 till his death in 1847.
1796 PETITION - Jacob George Smith UE of Sidney
 21 June 1796, Jacob George Smith and Johannes Lott each having recieved 400 [acres] each only of the annexed certificate for 450 acres of land - pray for 50 additional acres.
[fold 44a] No 769 Jacob Geo Smith and Johannes Lott. Recommened for 50 acres for each of the petitioners. Read 14 July. Entered in land Book B, page 126
[44b] 6 Sept 1787, Kingston. Jacob George Smith Loyst, wife and 6 children being entitled to 450 acres have drawn lot 15 in the first and second concessions consisting of four hundred acres in seigneurie No 8 [Sidney]. [signed] John Collins DSGl.
[44d] Identical printed form for Johannes Lott Loyst wife and Six Children ..... has drawn lot 10 in Concession 1 and 2.
Source: UCLP, RG1 L3, LAC, V448a, S2/44, C-2806, pp 644-49
LAND GRANT Lot 21, Con 2, Sidney
Michael Smith, Jacob Smith, Richard Smith all receive 200 acres each, [lots 20, 21, Con 2 in Sydney and lot 1, Con 5 in Thurlow respectively].
Source: Land Books, Quebec Book, 20 Jan 1790, pp. 165 and 166, C-100. See also Index to Upper Canada Land Books, OGS, 2007, 2138/9
This lot was patented to Jacob Smith on 17 May 1802. The lot is sold by Jacob Smith Sr on 2 Feb 1818 and registered 6 Feb 1822 to John Row who sells to Daniel M Dean. In 1823, Dean sells 100 acres to Robert Smith, whose wife Agnes releases her dower as a widow in 1848. The lot appears to have ended up being settled by Frederick Fanning and then given to George Fanning - a possible son.
Source: Abstract Index to deeds, Sidney, GSU197974
1810 HEIR AND DEVISEE COMMISSION
6 June 1810, Arra Rose of the Township of Sydney, yeoman, maketh oath and saith that he was well acquainted with the late Jacob Smith of the Township of Sydney. That he believes the said Jacob Smith located lot number 15 in the first and second concessions of Sydney and resided upon lot number 15 in the 1st concession of Sydney until his death which is near Twenty years ago [ie: 1790]. That his eldest son George Smith has resided on the said premises ever since and this deponent believes that the said Jacob Smith died without making a Will as the deponent hath lived upon the west lot but one from the said George Smith ever since his fathers decease and is well acquainted with all the family and had there been any Will made the deponent believes he must have heard of it. Arra his x mark Rose
Allan MacLean, Commissioner
28 December 1809, Kingston, [a copy of a Notice of Claim placed in the Office of the Clerk of the Peace, Midland District for 30 days] I George Smith of Sidney, yeoman, will at or after the expiration of 30 days from the date thereof laying claim before the Commissioners .... lot 15, 1st and 2nd concession Sidney and the broken front .... as heir at law of the late Jacob G Smith of Sidney, yeoman, deceased who was the original nominee of the said land.
9 June 1810, A search of the Surveyor General's office states that "the name of Jacob George Smith is entered in the Quebec Plan of Sidney for lots 15 in the 1st and 2nd concessions together with the broken front ..."
[fold] Rec'd 9 June 1810, Claim allowed.
Source: Heir and Devisee Commission, RG40-5, AO, MS 657, reel 17, item 1, parcel 3:1810, 40-147
MARY SCHMITT - child
Mary, dau of Jacob & Elizabeth SCHMITT, Sidney, 15 Mar 1789
Source: Anglican Registers 1787-1814, Rev John Langhorn, Lorel and Mildred Wanamaker, OGS, Kingston Branch, 1980, baptism, 25
JACOB SCHMITT - child
Jacob, son of Jacob & Elisabet SCHMITT, Fredericksburg, 12 Apr 1789
Source: Anglican Registers 1787-1814, Rev John Langhorn, Lorel and Mildred Wanamaker, OGS, Kingston Branch, 1980, baptism, 47
POSSIBLE CHILDREN - SMITH, LOTT
1. We went to Albany in the fall and got the birth record for Johannes Shmid, born 17 Jun 1785, child of Jacob Shmid and Eliesabeth, sponsors: Johannes Lott and Eva.
2. There is a ‘younger’ woman listed in Lutheran Records (Anglican Diocese Kingston) as “et ux. Mar. Barbara” which may be Margaret Barbara Smith/Schmidt since she (too?) is later known as Peggy? on land records, listed as wife of John Lott, with Births of children Peter Lott in 1798 and Jacob Lott in 1801. Later children are in McDowell, John 1808, Andrew 1811, Charles 1814. There may be other children.
3. Land records indicate that Barbara is a daughter of Jacob Smith, and has a sister Mary (who married John N Stickle .. shown in McDowell.)
4. I also have a Baptism directory from Schoharie that lists many Smith/ Schmitts and Jacobs.
Source: email from Anne Redish
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|4. GEORGE SMITH, 1771 - 1847, SON OF JACOB SMITH, SIDNEY|
The abstract index for Sidney land records shows Lot 15 Con 1 and 2 being Patented to George Smith on 1 Sept 1815. We know from the Heir and Devisee record above that George took over the farm from his father, Jacob. The next entry for lot 15 in concession 1 is the will of George Smith being probated in 1848. Around 1800 there appears to be only one George Smith in the records of Sidney. So it is likely that the marriage below to Gerdraut Friend in 1792 and the 1796 petition by the 25 year old George Smith, are both about this George Smith, son of Jacob Smith on Lot 15, Con 1. If so we can say that George was born in 1771 (1796-25), first married Gerdaut Friend and later married a Margaret as named in his will. He died 6 Jan 1847 as per the probate record.
MARRIAGE - this may be the marriage of this George Smith
Bann of marriage between George Schmidt of Sydney in the District of Mecklenburg and Gerdraut Friend of Ameliasburgh in the District aforesaid were published on 18 Dec 1791 and 4 Jan 1792 by me. John Langhorn, Episcopal Missionary
.... [they] were married in this church by Banns this 12th Feb 1792.
[signed] George Smith
Gerdraut her x mark Friend
This Marriage was solemnized in the presenc eof
Source: image of the Marriage Register of St John's Church, Ernestown, Anglican Diocese Archives, Kingston, No. 6, emailed Peter Johnson, June 2012
Source: Anglican Registers 1787-1814, Rev John Langhorn, Lorel and Mildred Wanamaker, OGS, Kingston Branch, 1980, 5
Peter Johnson writes, "A little while ago I had some correspondence with a person in the States who was working for someone wishing to obtain a DAR Certificate. The FRASIERS of Murray Tp were among the families involved. She included a biography of John FRASIER who married Amarilla SMITH. She didn't write it, and I'm not sure who did. Here is a portion:
...Amarilla (SMITH) was born in Canada. She and John (FRASIER) were married in the summer of 1825...Amarilla's father was a ship's pilot on the St. Lawrence River. The family was quite musical and were entertainers on the ship. The Smiths apparently had a large family in which "every other child" was born in the U.S. and Canada. Amarilla was related to the Washburn-Crosby Flour Mill owners, which later became Crosby-Crosby, who had Gold Medal Flour Co. Amarilla's father, George Smith died Jan. 6, 1847 in Sidney Tp. ON. His will, dated Feb. 20, 1845, lists his wife as Peggy, and gives the names of his 8 children - the others were John, Philo, Peter (born c1796, he married Sarah and lived in Sidney Tp. ON)...William, Jacob, Peggy (married a Bell), and Jane (married a Farrer).
The 1787 Sidney Map has "Jacob George Smith" inserted on lot 15, con 1 and it looks like Jacob is crossed out.
Source: email Peter Johnson May 2012
1796 PETITION - is this the same man as above?
8 April 1796, Murray, The bearer Geo Smith 25 years of age Born in the State of New York, Possessing the Christian religion, having this day been examined by me and taken the Oaths prescribed by Law is recommended for a location of two hundred acres of land within this District - provided it does not appear from the surveyors books that he has any prior Grant of Lands in any District of this Province. [signed] John Blacker [Bleecker] JP
[fold] No 20, Recommended, rec'd 26 June 1797, aWt 4 July 97
[Note: I feel this is George Smith, son of Jacob Smith. His father is still alive and George petitions at Bleecker's house in Murray. It does not say where he lives. The land books need to be checked to see what land he got.]
Source: UCLP, RG1 L3, LAC, V450, S3/10, C-2807, on line image starting at 36
LAND BOOK [needs to be checked]
Index, George Smith, 12 July 1797, book C, V 21, p 136, C-101
Index, Jacob George Smith, 14 Jul 1796, book B, V20, p. 126, petition S44, C-101
1 Sep 1815, George Smith is patented Lot 15, Con 2, Sidney
This would be the same George Smith, son of Jacob.
Source: Sidney Abstract Book, AO, GSU 197974
WILL OF GEORGE SMITH
Dated 20 Feb 1845 and proved 18 Jan 1847
I George Smith, being weak in body ......
I will and bequeath to my beloved wife Peggy Smith £125, two beds, £125 paid from the sale of my farm lot 15, concession 1 Sidney, also to retain possession from the same [farm] as she thinks fit in lieu of all dower ..
I will and bequeath to my oldest son Jacob £25
I will and bequeath to my son Philo Smith sum of £100
I will and bequeath to my my daughter Eliza Lawrence sum of £5
I will and bequeath that if there is any residue that it be equally divided between my sons John Smith, Peter Smith, William Smith, Jacob Smith and Philo Smith and my daughters Peggy Bell, Amarilla Fraser, ?? Jane Farrer.
Executors Chas Ransom Bonisteel and Peter Smith both of Sidney
Witnessed Robert Charles Archibald McLean Esquire of Tyendiaga and Frederick Hetwy of Ameliasburgh, laborer.
Peter Smith swears at Frankford that George Smith died on 6 Jan 1847.
Source: Surrogate Court Records, RG 22-340, 1840 - 1851, GS2, reel 59, A61
Source: Will also in AO under Hastings Co. Deeds GS4202, Vol R, item 488 - from Eric Bowler.
CHILDREN AS PER WILL
Eliza Smith m. Lawrence
Peter Smith, m. Sarah, lived Sidney - as per ACCOUNT above.
Margaret (Peggy) Smith m. Bell
Amarilla Smith m. Fraser
Jane Smith m. Farrer
1797 and 1812 PETITIONS - a different George Smith
In 1797, George Smith, Loyalist, of Fredericksburg, has received an assignment of 100 acres which he is settled on, prays for further quantity ... and then again in 1812 he petitions as a son of Michael Smith, UE of Fredericksburg and is granted 200 acres as SUE. This is a different man from George Smith of Sidney.
Source: UCLP, RG1 L3, LAC, V450, S3/36, C-2807, on line image starting at 118
Source: UCLP, RG1 L3, LAC, V456a, S10/118, C-2810, on line image starting at 1279
EBENEZER CEMETERY - this is not the George in question as he died 1853 and not 1847
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|5. JOHN SMITH 1794 - aft. 1871, married MARGARET W MEYERS|
The working hypothesis is that John Smith, the son of the above George Smith, married Margaret Meyers, dau of Leonard W Meyers. The census data below clearly identifies the family and the names of the children match those recorded in PLBQ.
Pioneer Life on the Bay of Quinte (PLBQ) names George, Peter, John, Russell, Jane, Amarilla and Augusta as the children of John Smith and Margaret Meyers [p. 28]. Margaret Meyers is the granddaughter of Capt. John W. Meyers and is named in the abstract index of Lot 1, Con 3, Sidney as a daughter of his son Leonard W Meyers and is named as margaret W Smith wife of John. Using the names above the census data for John Smith and Margaret Meyers is shown below. Note that in 1871 John's name has become John G Smith.
John Smith Male 58 abt 1794 Sidney, all Episcopal methodist
Margaret Smith Female 54 abt 1798 Sidney
Henry Smith Male 28 abt 1824 Sidney
John Smith Male 24 abt 1828 Sidney
Russel Smith 18 abt 1834 Sidney
Amarilla Smith 16 abt 1836 Sidney
Augusta Smith Male 12 abt 1840 Sidney
George Smith Male 34 abt 1818 Sidney
Margaret Smith Female 30 abt 1822 Sidney
Henry R Smith Male 5 abt 1847 Sidney
John Smith Male 4 abt 1848 Sidney
George Smith Male 2 abt 1850 Sidney
Alma M Smith 1 abt 1851 Sidney
The census states that all of the above are living in a 1.5 story log house and are 1 family so George is the son with his wife and family.
Source: Year: 1851; Census Place: Sidney, Hastings County, Canada West (Ontario); Schedule: A; Roll: C_11727; Page: 58; Line: 37. Ancestry.
John Smith Male 67 1794 Canada West Married
Margret Smith Female 65 1796 Canada West Married
Henery ?Mit? Male 27 1834 Canada West
Amarilla Smith Female 25 1836 Canada West
Anna ?Mith Female 21 1840 Canada West
El*Beth *T Female 4 1857 Canada West
add *Mit? Male 11 1850 Canada West
Source Citation: Year: 1861; Census Place: Sidney, , Hastings, Canada West; Roll: C-1033; Page: 92. Ancestry - very faint and hard to read.
All together in Dwelling 117 and family number 119.
Smith, John G Male 77 abt 1794 Ontario Married German
Smith, Margret Female 72 abt 1799 Ontario Married German
Smith, Henry F Male 46 abt 1825 Ontario German
Smith, Ida Female 13 abt 1858 Ontario German
Smith, George Male 21 abt 1850 Ontario German
Source: Year: 1871; Census Place: Sidney, Hastings West, Ontario; Roll: C-9991; Page: 30; Family No: 119., Ancestry
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|6. CHILDREN of John Smith and Margaret Meyers as recorded by MILDRED SUSSELL (Chap. 5 of the Meyers work)
Margaret W. Meyers b. ca. 1797: d. after 1871. (1851-1871 census) m. ca. 181? John Smith b. ca. 1793; d. after 1871. (1851-1871 census)
They lived in Sidney, Hasting Co., Ont., Can. - religion Meth . Episc .
A. George Smith b. ca. 1817; d . (1851-61 Census) m. c a . 184? Margaret . . . b . c a . 1821; d .
They lived in Sidney Twp. , Hastings Co .: religion- ?
1. Henry Smith b. ca. 184 6; d . (185 1 - 6 1 census) m. p e r h a p s ca . 187? E l i z a . . . . b. ca. 1852; d .
a . Frank Smith b. ca. 1875; d .
b . Russell Smith b. ca. 1877; d .
c . Murney? (male) b. ca. 1879; d .
(They were in Sidney in 1881.)
2 . John Smith b. ca. 1847; d . (1851-1861 census)
3 . George Smith b. ca. 1849; d . (1851-1871 census)
4 . Elaine? M. Smith b. ca. 185 0; d . (1851-1861 census)
5. Sarah Smith b. ca. 185 3; d . (1861 census)
6 . James Smith b. ca. 185 4; d . (1861 census) m . p e r h a p s c a . 187? Nancy . . . b. ca. 186-; d .
a . Freddy Smith b. ca. 1877; d .
b . Samuel Smith b. ca. 1879; d .
(James was a farmer in Sidney in 1881; religion - Can. Meth.)
7. Charles Smith b. ca. 185 7; d . (1861 census)
8 . Ruby ( or July ) Smith b. ca. 185 9; d . (1861 census)
B. Jane Smith b. ca. 1819 ?; d .
C. Peter Smith b . ca. 1820; d . (1851 - 61 Census) m . ca. 184? Mary Ann . . . b. ca. 1821; d .
They lived in Sidney; religion ?
1. William Smith b. ca. 184 7; d . (1851-1861 census)D. Henry Smith b. ca. 1823; d . (1851-1871 census)
2. John Smith b. ca. 184 8; d . m. p e r h a p s Emma P . . . . b. ca. 1850; d. Lived in Sidney; religion- ?
3. Fidelia Smith b. ca. 1853; d . (1861 Census)
4. Christy Smith b . ca. 1858; d . (1861 Census)
E. William Smith b. ca. 1826: d . (1851 , 18 - 1 - 8 1 census) m . perhaps Melissa J . b. ca. 1839; d (1871 - 81 Census)
1. Margaret V. Smith b. ca. 1864; d. (1871 census)F. John Smith b. ca. 1827; d. (1861-71 Census)
2. George H. Smi t h b. ca. 1855; d. (1871 - 81 census)
3. Charles Smith b. ca. 1869; d. (1871-81 Census) I
4. Mary Smith b. s a. 1871; d. (1871 - 81 census)
5. Lewis Smith b. ca. 1873; d. (1881 census)
(I am not sure this is the correct family.)
G. Russell (called a female on the census ? ? ) Smith b. ca. 1833; d.
H. Charles B Smith b. ca. 1834; d. ca. (1851 and 1871 census)
Children - none before 1871
He was a farmer in Sidney Twp., Hasting Co. , O n t. , C a n.; religion- Meth. Episc.
I. Amarilla Smith b. ca. 1835; d. (Called male on one census and female on the other – I believe female is correct) (1851-61 census)
J. Augustus Smith b. ca. 1839; d. (1851-61 Census)
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|7. PETER SMITH, 1797 - 1861, possible son of George, wife Sarah
This Peter Smith left a detailed will naming his children and the working hypothesis is that he is the son of George Smith who names son Peter Smith of Sidney as an executor in his will. Peter buys the west half of lot 7, con 4 in 1833.
A lady who was most helpful with old photos and info for the Meth. Graveyard in Frankford alerted me to a SMITH grave marker at a home southeast of Frankford. Checked it out today.
Peter SMITH 1797-1861 is of the same generation as the John SMITH who married Margaret MEYERS. I note that in the Will of George SMITH, died 1847 he has both a son John and a son Peter. (The John who married Margaret also named a son Peter). As far as the current owner knows, he thinks the Patent was to Wm Dummer POWELL (Toronto big wig who no doubt never saw the land) and SMITHS bought it later. It is Lot 7 Con 4 Sidney. In 1878 the map shows a James SMITH on the property, likely a son of this Peter.
The other question is the burial location of this Peter SMITH. Could be on the farm, but his BUSH neighbours are at the (Lost) Meth. Graveyard in Frankford, so I can't rule out the possibility that this marker came from there.
Source: Peter Johnson, email June 2012
17 July 1860, Last will and testament of Peter Smith, late of Township of Sidney, … my funeral expenses be paid out of the sale of my personal property, secondly to my beloved wife Sarah Smith, in lieu of dower, one third of west half, lot 7, [4th concession] whereon I now with my family reside, one cow and six sheep, and be paid yearly £2, 10 shillings … and support by my beloved son James Harvey Smith, beloved wife have the use of the premises so long as she remain unmarried, thirdly unto my beloved daughter Laura Finkle, the wife of Jacob Finkle, the sum of £50 paid by beloved son James Harvey [Smith], fourthly unto my beloved son Henry Ryerson Smith rents and profits from east half, lot 230 in the Village of Frankford as on the plan developed by Gilbert S Clapp DPS in 1837, to October 1862 and then to James Harvey Smith thence forward until my son George Albert Smith arrives at the age of majority and fifthly bestow on son James Harvey Smith the farm west half lot 7 con 4 … also to pay to his mother and younger brother George Albert to keep him in school …. Sixthly to George Albert Smith east half lot 230, village of Frankford. Executors to be son Harvey Ryerson Smith and William M Ripsom Esq, Sidney. Witnesses, Lyman Lee and William H Bonisteel, both of Sidney, yeomen. Registered, 9 May 1861
Source: Hastings Copybook C, Sidney Township, #280, GSU197980, transcription is condensed
CHILDREN AS PER WILL
Laura Smith m. Jacob Finkle
James Harvey Smith
Henry Ryerson Smith
George Albert Smith
Row 8: In memory of Peter Smith, died 10 Apr 1861 aged 64 y's 2 m's & 25 d's. [b. 16 Jan 1797]
Sarah Wife of Peter Smith died Sep 20 1894, aged 91 y's 7 m's & 15 d's. [b. 5 Feb 1803]
Source: Whites Cemetery Transcription, AO, MS451, reel 68, #95, p.7
Virginia Hannay identifies Sarah as Sarah Redner.
Source: email Virginia Hannay, July 2012, citation not given.
MORE on REDNER
The notion that his wife Sarah was a REDNER may well be correct. Mildred & C. Loral R. WANAMAKER in their REDNER book have a Sarah REDNER b 5 Feb 1803 m in 1820 to Peter SMITH. She was the dau'r of Henry REDNER Jr. and Jemima OSTRANDER, so a granddaughter of Henry REDNER Sr. UE.
Source: email peter Johnson, Aug 2012