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WHY I AM INTERESTED IN THIS FAMILY:
A group of us are trying to establish the children of William and Hannah White who settled in Sidney Tp. from NY. We feel we have linked them to a NY family. It appears that Reuben White is the son of this couple based on land records, naming of children by his probable siblings and the fact that he took over a large farm from William White.
The descendants of Reuben White and Esther Marsh
Reuben White, is almost certainly a son of William White and Hannah Tompkin, was born Abt. 1779, maybe in Schoharie Co.,
Children of Reuben White and Esther Marsh are:
i. Julia Ann5 White, born 1801; died Bef. 1851. She married George Zwick December 12, 1827; born April 22, 1801 in Upper Canada; died July 27, 1868 in Sidney Twsp, Hastings Co. Ont..
ii. Phoebe White, born May 26, 1803; died February 07, 1867 in Sidney Twsp, Hastings Co. Ont.. She married Henry Chambers Saylor Abt. 1819; born Abt. 1795 in U.S.A.
iii. Sarah A White. She married Jacob Burdick.
iv. Hannah White, born Abt. 1805 in Canada West. She married Henry Jones; born 1794 in Canada West.
v. Elizabeth E. White, born Abt. 1806 in Upper Canada; died in Dane Co., WI. She married Henry William Wandal? Yager March 02, 1824 in Sidney Tp, Hastings Co., ON; born Bef. May 14, 1802 in Claverack, Columbia Co., NY; died January 09, 1860 in Montrose, Dane Co., WI.
vi. Perlina White. She married Jacob Burdick.
vii. William White, born Abt. 1811 in Sidney Tp., Canada West; died Bef. 1858 in Wisconsin. He married Jane Shaw; born Abt. 1815 in NY; died Bef. 1870 in Wisconsin.
viii. Clarissa White, died October 31, 1859 in Sidney Tp.. She married Robert Smith.
ix. Stephen White, born February 1814 in Sidney Tp.; died November 27, 1873 in Sidney Tp.. He married (1) Betsy Keeler Bef. 1834. He married (2) Maria Moon Aft. 1851; born Abt. 1824 in Canada West; died October 31, 1867.
x. Webster White, born 1817; died April 12, 1878. He married Eliza A Davis; born September 11, 1820; died October 14, 1903.
xi. Franklin White, born 1823; died May 31, 1859 in Whites Cemetery, Row 10. He married (1) Johanna Yates Bef. 1852; born 1823; died July 21, 1852 in Whites Cemetery, Row 10. He married (2) Phoebe Marshall Bef. 1855; born 1821; died January 10, 1855 in Smallpox, Whites Cemetery, Row 10. He married (3) Rachel Fralick nee Lockwood Aft. 1855.
xii. Caroline A White, born Abt. 1827 in Sidney Tp.. She married Cornelius Lawrence; born Abt. 1822 in Canada West.
1851 census, age 72, thus born about 1779
Year born is about 1858 - 79 = 1779 as calculated from the obituary notice.
Source: Hastings Chronicle, Belleville, 13 Jan 1858, AO, N219, reel 2
Possibly in Schoharie County, NY
Source: Pioneer Life on the Bay of Quinte, 1904, p. 857
Source: Colonel William Marsh, 1738 - 1816, Bruce Stinson, 1996, p. 103
SARAH WHITE - COUSIN
Note - The clue below came to light thru emails from Peter Johnson, Aug 2004
Smitton Simmons, b 1769 in England emigrated to Scoharie Co. and married Sarah White, cousin of Reuben White, Sidney Pioneer. They had 2 children, Polly and Stephen, in NY and in 1802 emigrated to Picton settling on the Judge fisher Farm. John R Simmons was born here in 1803. In 1804 they purchased 300 acres in Cramahe Tp., and had 4 more children. Smitton served in the War 1812 and was granted 200 acres in the 4th Conc, Murray Tp. He died in 1865, aged 96. Sarah died in 1852, aged 54 (sic - likely aged 74)
Source: PLBQ, 1904, paraphrased from pp 727/8
Sarah died in 1852 and Smiton in 1865 (ae95). They are buried at Colborne Union Cem, and I have somewhere a photo of the stone. Says he was from Poughkeepsie. I photographed it many years ago just out of interest's sake.
Source: email from Peter Johnson, Aug 2004
I do not believe that Smiton (or Smitton) was born in
Source:email from Jeanne Ross, Nov 2006
PARENTS OF REUBEN WHITE
As I recall, I have a William White 1751- and Elizabeth Thompkins 1751- as prts of Reuben, NY State (or Colony case may be. At least they are the right age to be his parents. Have seen nothing to link him in with the Whites in the KRRNY, but of course a c1778 birth does place it in a grey area.
email from Peter Johnson, Nov 2001
Mary Phinney has mother as Hannah.
WILLIAM WHITE - FATHER
1. Reuben White is the son of William White
Source: Colonel William Marsh, 1738 - 1816, Bruce Stinson, 1996, p. 103. The above came from a letter dated 10 Dec 1965 from Mrs Alice Richardson where on sheet E it says that William White is the father of Reuben. Copy WRS from the files of Bruce Stinson (deceased), from a visit to Bruce's wife Dec 2004.
2. His father, William White, was a Loyalist, who fought in the Loyal Rangers, a regiment formed by General Simcoe, our first Governor-General, during the American War of Revolution.
Source: Booklet titled Centennial Souvenir, One Hundredth Anniversary Whites United Church, 1941, copy given to WRS by Mary Phinney, p 10/11.
3. "Now, as to the White family, I have read the “Pioneer Life” and found little in it of use to me. In fact, I am not really sure that Reuben was a brother of my ancestor Fanny. All I have to go on is the story that Fanny was married to William Cunningham at the home of her brother Reuben, and that after the wedding, William rowed some of the guests back across the bay. Which bay? Also, William Cunningham is supposed to have driven one of the White family wagons to Canada when the Whites moved there en masse. Since William was a Quaker and of Dutchess Co., N.Y., I can’t believe that the White family was of Schoharie, at least just prior to their removal to Canada. William Cunningham’s bakground I have pretty much nailed down. His mother was Abigail Richmond, a sister of Mary (Richmond) Allison who is buried with her husband Joseph in the old Adolphustown cemetery. Their stones were still standing last I knew. "
Source: Quote from a letter sent to Peter Johnson by Lillian D Daboll of Lakeside, CT, dated 14 Nov 1976. This information was provided by Peter Johnson, Jan 2007.
With some confidence it appears that Reuben White is the son of William White and Hannah Tompkin but no contemporary birth record or other document has been found. When one examines all the family records there is a strong feeling that Reuben is part of this White family.
SEARCH FOR PARENTS
The early Sidney Tp land transactions show a Cornelius and William White and also various Simmons people. Are they connected. It has been determined that the Simmons people in Sidney descend from Pte Henry Simmons and they all made petitions from Adolphustown in the 1790's. There is another Lt Henry Simmons and he ends up in Fredricksburgh and his daughter makes a petiton. These do not appear connected to SmitonSimmons who settled in Cramahe.
Cornelius White settles in the Conc 1, Military Tract, Hallowell and in his will names 6 dughters. No Reuben connection is apparent. I am still examining the William White of Sidney.
Source: R. Saylor notes with Jeanne Ross and Peter Johnson, Oct 2004
Source: Colonel William Marsh, 1738 - 1816, Bruce Stinson, 1996, p. 103
1800 NY CENSUS
Reuben White of Coeymans Tp., Albany Co., is listed as Head of a family of 10 people. This individual is not the Reuben White who emigrated to Sidney Tp.
Source: 1800 NY census, image provided by AncestryPlus at TRL
1803 TOWN CLERK
In 1799, Henry Smith was elected Town Clerk, and in 1800 John Hagerman, followed by James Farley, James W. Sharrard, Reuben White, Abel Gilbert, Elijah Ketcheson, Jacob W. Myers, Joseph M. Lockwood, Gideon Turner, Jolin S. Huffman. The town meetings were held respectively in the Inn of Ketcheson, 5th Concession, Ketcheson's store, 4th Concession, and Ketcheson's school-house. In 1848-9 John Ketcheson was District Councillor, and Gillbert Bleeker, Township Clerk
Source: Historical Atlas of Hastings & Prince Edward Counties, Ontario, Illustrated. H. Belden & Co., 1878. Reprint by Mika Publishing, 1977, p iv and v.
REUBEN WHITE FAMILY
The pioneer, Reuben White, came to Sidney from the State of New York shortly after the American Revolution, and was probably a native of Scoharie County in that State. His ability soon brought to him a leading position in this community, at the time when men were judged by no other test; and, we find that he represented his riding in the Parliament of Upper Canada from 1802 to 1814. He was one of the Commissioners who advertised for tenders in 1833, and who in 1834 built the first bridge across the River Trent. The bridge is still in service and in good condition at Trenton. He amassed a considerable estate, owning a large lumber mill and a general store. He gave the land and sawed the lumber for the first church in Sidney, an edifice still in good preservation, and known as White's Church to this day.
He married Hester, daughter of Mathias Marsh, in the early years of the century. She survived until 1884, Mr. White having pre-deceased her in 1857.
Source: Pioneer Life on the Bay of Quinte, 1904, p. 857
1. Land Books L, 1821 -1824, p.57, from Index film C10829
2. "The petition of Reuben White, of Sidney, Member of the Assembly .....That your petitioner has for many years resided within a short distance of the Town of Belleville .... and has never received any land or order for land from the Crown. That your petitioner being desirous to build in said Town of Belleville humbly prays that your excellency will be pleased to grant him a lot in said Town ... Dated Apr 1821. The petition was recomended and a the deed is ordered 25 Apr 1821.
Source: Upper Canada Land Petitions, W13, #13, V529, AO, C2954
3. UCLP, I(letter eye)20/1
A Gilbert and Stephen White are listed as making land claims as a militiaman who served in the War of 1812 - 1814 with the 1st Regiment Hastings Militia. Index of the Land Claim Certificates, Lauber, OGS, 1995, p. 97: RG9, IB4, V. 24, pp. 1577-83 and 1605-06, NAC. Could they be brothers of Reuben?
On 11 Dec 1815, Cornelius White, Hallowell, sells to Reuben White, Sidney the E 1/2 of Lot 12 and all of Lot 13, Conc 1, Sidney for 600 pounds. Witnessed by John Dockstader and William Kelley both of Sidney. Signed 16 Dec 1815 and Reg 18 Dec 1815.
Source: Hastings County Copybooks, Vol A-D, 1800-1821, AO, GSU 197905, Vol C, #325
MEMBER OF LEGISLATIVE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY
Reuben was the elected representative for Hastings County in sessions; 8, 9 and 11.
8th Parliament of Upper Canada - 31 Jan 1821 - 19 Jan 1824 - only rep.
9th Parliament of Upper Canada - 11 Jan 1825 - 25 Mar 1828 with Thomas Coleman.
10th Parliament of Upper Canada - not elected - Joseph Lockwood and James Hunter Samson are reps.
11th Parliament of Upper Canada - 7 Jan 1831 - 6 Mar 1834 with James Hunter Samson.
12th Parliament of Upper Canada - 7 Jan 1831 - 16 Apr 1835 - not elected but his son-in-law, Henry W Yager is along with James Hunter Samson.
Source: Minutes of the Court of Quarter Sessions, Linda Corupe, 2001, AO, Vol 2, p. 329
"White, Reuben, b, Schorarie County, NY; d 1857; m Esther (or Hester) March (sic); eight daughters, four sons. Quaker. Miller, merchant. Granted a town lot in Belleville. Lived in Sidney Twp. Member of the House of Assembly (MHA) from 1820 - 28, 1830 - 34. Reformer.
Sources: "PAC, RG 1, L3, vol 529, w13/13; MG 9, B 8-12; Pioneer Life of Bay of Quinte pp 857 - 59; C. Read and R. Staggs, eds. The Rebellion of 1837 in Upper Canada (Toronto 1985), 284."
Quoted from - Becoming Prominent, J.K. Johnson, McGill Queens Univ. Press, 1989, p. 235
Members of the Assembly were paid and there are 3 records of this. On 27 Apr 1833 he was paid in cash, amount not specified. On 28 Apr 1837 he was paid 42 Ponds, 10 shillings and on 27 Jun 1837 he was paid 52 pounds.
Source: Minutes of the Court of Quarter Sessions, Linda Corupe, 2001, AO, Vol 2, p. 39, 44, 103
Reuben White was granted 1/2 acre, Lot 39, west side of Church St., Belleville, subject to building a stone or brick or frame house not less than 24 x 18 ft within 2 years, dated 1 May 1821. Note states; settlement duly performed, dated 22 Jan 1823.
Source: Township Papers, Belleville, AO, MS 658, reel 32, #697, no copy made
Reuben White writes to Hon Peter Robinson asking to purchase part of Lot 1, Broken Front Sidney, dated 9 Dec 1828.
Source: Township Papers, Sidney, AO, MS 658, reel 442, p 43, copy WRS files
1834 TRENT RIVER BRIDGE
"The construction of a bridge across the Trent, which took place in 1834, was a great benefit. It was 750 feet long and 32 broad. It was for many years the best bridge in Upper Canada. The 'Hastings Times' of Belleville, has an advertisement for tenders by the Commissioners, &c., C. Wilkins, Reuben White and James G. Bethune, dated River Trent, 9th March 1833."
Source: The Settlement of Upper Canada, Canniff, 1869, p. 488
WHITE'S SAW MILL
Reuben White is often mentioned as a saw mill owner however I have never found a solid primary document stating this to be true. It is also repeated that the lumber for White's Church came from his saw mill.
However an 1855 map shows "Whites Saw Mill" and it is located on lot Lot 12, Conc 1 beside a stream. The Church is alos shown at the lower part of the lot, on the road.
Source: Sidney, Portrait of a Township, Celebrating Ontario's 200 years, Bayside Secondary School, 1985, p 13. The source of the re-produced map is not given.
1837 TAVERN LICENCE
The tavern licence fee was set by the Court and it varied depending on the area, being higher in the large towns. On 5 Jan 1836 Reuben, along with 152 others were to pay the tavern licence fee, his being 3 Pounds 'in the country generally'. Again on 5 Jan 1837 the same fee was charged.
Source: Minutes of the Court of Quarter Sessions, Linda Corupe, 2001, AO, Vol 2, p. 129, 171
A note reads, "Reuben White was a prosperous mill owner and merchant of Sidney, also served as a member of the Assembly. He was arrested in Dec 1837 for suspected rebel sympathy and his subsequent claim for rebelion loses state that William Bane, the man who had been sent, had helped himself to some of his possessions while performing his duty. He spent about 2 weeks in goal and then had to return to Kingston for a trial that never took place.
Source: Minutes of the Court of Quarter Sessions, Linda Corupe, 2001, AO, Vol 2, p. 171
Reuben White, yeoman, was arrested after the 1837 Rebellion on 17 Dec 1837 and discharged on 2 Jan 1838. He was not tried and instead was admitted to bail by the Attoney General.
SOURCE: "Return to an address of the honourable, the House of Commons, dated 8 May 1838, for return of the names and quality and station of the several (over 800 names listed) persons arrested in Upper Canada and placed in confinement in the prisons in Toronto and other places in the province , on the charge of insurrection or treason .....", Great Britain, Colonial Office, Downing Street, 1839, TRL, 971.054.G67.3.
Second source: Becoming Prominent, J.K. Johnson, McGill Queens Univ. Press, 1989, p. 82
.... among the number so arrested was Reuben White, Joseph N. Lockwood, Joseph Canniff, myself and others .....
Source: W.L. Mackenzie Correspondence, June 1830- Feb 1838, AO, MS516, reel 2, pp 1187/8, dated 22 Dec 1837. Letter to WLM from C.H. McCollom, copy WRS files.
Bayside (first called Rhinebeck) - Sidney Twp.
Began on Lot 13, Conc. 1 of Sidney. Consisted of a tavern, blacksmith shop, store, and houses. Whites Church (Episcopal Methodist) built in 1841.
Source: ANNOTATED GAZETEER OF HASTINGS COUNTY, http://www.rootsweb.com/~onhastin/gazeteer.html
White, Reuben, farmer, born USA, Episcopal Methodist, age 72 at next birthday. Owned a 2 story frame house, Tavern, an Episcopal Methodist church capable of holding 1000 people, frame.
Esther, born USA and age 69
Jane Zwick, CW, 16
Esther P. Burdick, born U States, 13
Benjamin Shuter?, CW, 11
Source: 1851 Census, Hastings, Sidney (part 2), AO, C11727, p. 98
WILL OF REUBEN WHITE
In the name of God Amen I Reuben White of the Township of Sidney, County of Hastings and Province of Canada, considering the uncertainty of this mortal life, being of sound mind and memory praise be to Almighty God for the same do make and publish this my last will and testament in the manner and form following that is to say: In the first place I give my soul to Almighty God who gave it and my body to be interred where and available to those who may have to duty to perform the same. Secondly I give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Esther White all my household furniture to dispose of as she may think proper and also the sum of Twenty five pounds Cy per year during her natural life, the same to be paid to her by my youngest son Franklin White either in board, clothing or money as she may require or desire. I give and bequeath unto my son Stephen White the front half of lot No. 23 (or 13? - hard to read) in the fourth concession of the Township of Sidney with all the rents? and accounts which I hold against him, I further give unto my son Webster .. line missing ... paid for him towards the purchase of the farm where he now lives. I further give unto my son Franklin White the west half of Lot W13 in the first concession of the township of Sidney with its broken front and all the buildings erected thereon for a period if ten years, after which time his son Benjamin Franklin White shall have and hold the said estate. And in case of decease of his son Benjamin Franklin White before the expiration of the said ten years the estate shall descend to son Franklin White and his heirs and assigns forever. After the death of his mother Esther White and by paying her the amount which I have decreed , and in case of his decease and leaving a widow she shall be entitled to no Dower on the estate. And I further will unto my daughters Elizabeth Yager, Caroline Lawrence and Phoebe Saylor each the sum of one hundred pounds out of my estate. And I further will unto my daughter Phoebe Saylor, the front half of Lot W 4 in the 4th concession of the township of Sidney and the east half of the Rear of said lot containing one hundred and fifty acres to her, her heirs and assigns forever. Also ten acres and a half in the first concession of Sidney and which may be better known or described as being composed of the broken front or part thereof on the east half of Lot W 4 together with all the buildings and improvements thereon. I hereby will unto my daughter Hannah Jones the sum of fifty pounds out of my estate and I further will unto my daughter Clarissa Smith the sum of fifty pounds over and above the sum of one hundred and twenty five pounds which I loaned to her husband Robert Smith. And I further will that all the Notes Bank Accounts and Mortgages shall be collected by my executors except the note that I have against Robert Smith shall be equally divided between all my children except Clarissa Smith and I further will that all my lands which have been sold and Bonds given for Deeds shall be fullfilled by my executors, which I shall be .. line missing ... willed hereby to my children shall be to them their heirs and assigns forever. And if any of my children or heirs shall disagree and find fault with this my last will their share and share shall be forfeited and equally divided amongst all my other children. And further should there be any more property belonging to me found that has not already been disposed of by the above will it shall be equally divided amongst all of my children share and share alike. - And in case any more is willed than there is property to be found there shall be a reduction made share and share alike amongst all of my children. And I further more appoint my widow Esther White my son Webster White and Cornelius Lawrence to be my sole executor to this my last will and testament , which executors shall have power to appoint an attorney or attornies learned in the law if the aid and assistance should be required in settling the ???? will. Hereby revoking all former wills by me made. In witness whereof I do hereby set my hand this seventeenth day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and fifty six.
Signed sealed and published and declared by me the above named Reuben White to be my last will and testament in presence of those who have hereto set their hands sealed ?? their names as witnesses in presence of the testament and in the year above mentioned. Signed Peter Begg, Sheldon Young, James Zwick And which will is witnessed by Peter Begg of the village of Frankford and county of Hastings. School teacher Sheldon Young of same place gentleman and James Zwick of Sidney and county aforesaid yeoman. And this mentioned thereof is hereby required to be registered by me Webster White one of the executors in the said will named. As witness my hand and seal this fifteenth day of January in the year of our Lord one thousand and eight hundred and fifty eight ... line missing....
Transcribed by Randy Saylor, Mar 1994
Source: AO reel GS4274 Deed #B940
Headstone reads: Reuben White, died Jan 6, 1858, aged 79 y.
Source: Whites Cemetery Transcriptios, AO, MS 451 reel 68
Died at his residence in Sidney, on Wed, January 6, Reuben White, Esq, aged 79 years.
Note: The AO does not have other local newspapers for Trenton and Belleville for this date.
Source: Hastings Chronicle, Belleville, 13 Jan 1858, AO, N219, reel 2
Two branches of Reuben White descendants, separated around 1847, kept the story alive that Reuben was a descendant of the Mayflower settlers, presumably William White. These lines are the Yager line who moved to Wisconsin around 1847 and Mary Phinney (deceased) who lived in Trenton and told me her grandmother told her the story. The story deserves some attention though we all know how easy it is for people to claim an ancestry that is based on hearsay and not fact.
William White, of the Mayflower and wife Susannah brought their son Resolved on ship and son Peregrine was the first child born in Plymouth. William died shortly after.