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Humbert I Seigneur De Salins




Husband Humbert I Seigneur De Salins 1 2

           Born: Abt 925 - Salins Les Bains, Jura, Franche-Comte, France
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           Died: 958
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         Father: Alberic I Vicomte De Narbonne, Count Of Macon (Abt 0880-0945) 1 2 3
         Mother: Etolane De Macon (Abt 0892-      ) 1 3


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Maud Of Salisbury




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Wife Maud Of Salisbury 1 4 5 6

            AKA: Maud Devereux
           Born: 1093 - Salisbury, Wiltshire, England 4
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           Died: 1142
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         Father: Edward Of Salisbury (Bef 1060-1130) 1 5 6 7
         Mother: Maud FitzHubert (1070-      ) 1





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General Notes: Wife - Maud Of Salisbury

The following is a post to SGM, 24 Feb 1999, by John Carmi Parsons:

From: John Carmi Parsons (jparsons AT chass.utoronto.ca)
Subject: Re: BOHUN
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1999/02/24

The erroneous "d'Evreux" origin for the Salisbury family arose from a misreading or misunderstanding of the sobriquet "l'heureux" ("the lucky" or "the fortunate) applied to the first Edward of Salisbury. Some later historian apparently took the Anglo-Norman nickname to be a place-name of origin, meaning that the family would be of Norman origin despite Edward's obviously Anglo-Saxon personal name. "L'heureux" thus became "d'Evreux," though the Salisbury family never had anything to do with that region in Normandy.

John Parsons
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Patrick De Salisbury, 1st Earl Of Salisbury and Ela De Talvas, D'alencon




Husband Patrick De Salisbury, 1st Earl Of Salisbury 1 8 9 10 11

           Born: Abt 1120 - Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
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           Died: 27 Mar 1168 - Slain In Poitou, Vienne, France 9 11
         Buried:  - St. Hilaire Abbey, Poitiers, Poitou, Vienne, France


         Father: Walter Of Salisbury, Sheriff Of Wiltshire (1100-1147) 1 9 12 13 14
         Mother: Sibyl De Chaworth, Heiress Of Hesdin (1100-Bef 1147) 1 9 12 13 14


       Marriage: Bef 1152 - 2ND Husband 2ND Wife 9 10




Wife Ela De Talvas, D'alencon 1 10 11 15 16

            AKA: Ela D' Alencon
           Born: Abt 1120 - Alencon, Orne, Normandy, France
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           Died: 4 Oct 1174 10 11 16
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         Father: William III Talvas, Count Of Alencon & Ponthieu (After 1087-1171) 1 10 17 18 19
         Mother: Alice (Alix Or Ela) Borel Of Burgundy (Abt 1095-Abt 1194) 1 10 17 18 19



   Other Spouse: William de Warenne, 3rd Earl Of Surrey (Abt 1119-1148) 1 9 15 20 - 1st Husband 10



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1 M William FitzPatrick, 2nd Earl Of Salisbury 1 8 21 22 23

            AKA: William Fitzpatrick 2Nd Earl Of Salisbury
           Born: Abt 1150 - Salisbury, Wiltshire, England 22
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           Died: 17 Apr 1196 - Normandy? (Dspm) 22 23
         Buried:  - Bradenstoke Priory, Wiltshire, England




General Notes: Husband - Patrick De Salisbury, 1st Earl Of Salisbury

Earldom of Salisbury: The first creation of this title took place some time between June 1142 and 1147, when the Empress Maud, Henry I's daughter made Patrick de Salisbury an Earl. He is sometimes referred to as Earl of Wiltshire and sometimes as Earl of Salisbury, usually the latter. At this time an earldom was an official position rather than title of honour, but was often held by successive members of the same family, though not necessarily by right. Patrick was descended from a line of men who had been Sheriffs of Wiltshire from shortly after the Norman Conquest and who may even have been of English rather than Norman origin. Patrick's son succeeded him as Earl but died leaving an only child, a daughter called Ela or Isabel. Richard I arranged her marriage to William Longespee ("Long Sword"), his illegitimate half-brother by Henry II out of either Rosamund/Rosamond Clifford (the "Fair Rosamond" of tradition) or a woman of obscure antecedents called Hikenai or Ykenai. (Longespee may, however have been born of some other woman altogether). [Burke's Peerage]

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EARLDOM OF WILTSHIRE (II) Note: Hervey de Leon was styled 1st Earl of Wiltshire

EARLDOM OF SALISBURY (I)

PATRICK DE SALISBURY, 2nd but 1st surviving son and heir [of Walter de Salisbury, styled also Walter FitzEdward and Walter the Sheriff by Sibyl, da. of Patrick de Chaources], supported the Empress, who made him her Constable, and by whom he was created, within the years 1142 (June)-1147, and probably after July 1143, EARL OF WILTSHIRE, being styled usually EARL OF SALISBURY. He was sheriff of Wiltshire. He was with Henry, Duke of Normandy, at Devizes on 13 April 1149, and again in 1153 (January-August); and at Westminster on 6 November 1153 he witnessed the treaty between Stephen and Henry. After the accession of Henry II, he continued to act as sheriff, and was frequently at Court. In 1163 he was present at the (first) translation of Edward the Confessor. In 1166 he held 40 fees inherited from his father, and 15 of his mother's maritagium, all 55 being of the old fcoffinent. In 1167 he was left in charge of the royal forces in Poitou. He confirmed his father's gifts to Bradenstoke, and was a benefactor to the priory of St. Denys, Southampton, and to the Templars.

He married, 1stly, Maud, daughter of . . . . He married, 2ndly, Ela, widow of William DE WARENNE, 3rd EARL OF SURREY, daughter of William TALVAS, COUNT OF PONTHIEU AND ALENÇON, by Ela, daughter of Eudes, DUKE OF BURGUNDY. He was killed in battle in Poitou by Geoffrey de Lusignan, about 7 April 1168, and was buried in the Abbey of St. Hilaire in Poitiers. His widow died 10 October 1174. [Complete Peerage XI:375-7, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]


General Notes: Wife - Ela De Talvas, D'alencon

He [William de Warenne] married Ela or Ala, daughter of William TALVAS, COUNT OF PONTHIEU (son of Robert DE BELLÊME, 3rd EARL OF SHREWSBURY), by Ela, widow of Bertrand, COUNT OF TOULOUSE, and daughter of Eudes BOREL, DUKE OF BURGUNDY. He died s.p.m. 19 January 1147/8, being slain when the rearguard of the French King's army was cut to pieces in the defiles of Laodicea. His widow married, probably in or before 1152, Patrick (DE SALISBURY), 1st EARL OF WILTSHIRE or SALISBURY (died 1168). She is said to have died 4 October 1174. [Complete Peerage XII/1:496-7, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
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Giselbert I Count Of Salm, & Luxembourg




Husband Giselbert I Count Of Salm, & Luxembourg 1 24

            AKA: Giselbert I Graf Von Salm Und Luxembourg
           Born: Abt 1005 - Chateau DE Salm, Luxembourg
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         Father: Frederick I Count Of Salm & Luxembourg, Duke of Luxemburg (Abt 0965-1019) 1 25 26 27
         Mother: Ermentrude Gleiberg, of Gleiberg (Abt 0970-      ) 1 25 26 28 29


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William Salmon




Husband William Salmon

           Born: 1688
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         Father: John Salmon (1655-1737)
         Mother: Jane Green (unconfirmed) (1660-      )


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1 M John Salmon

           Born: 1710 - Princess Anne Co., Virginia
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           Died: 22 Jun 1761 - , Cumberland, Virginia, USA
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         Spouse: Eleanor McCarty (      -1767)




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Living and Living




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         Mother: Willie Etoile Maynard (1907-1936)


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Richard De Sandford




Husband Richard De Sandford

           Born: Abt 1370 - Sandford, Salop, Eng
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           Died: Abt 1451
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            AFN: 8WK5-5F


         Father: Nicholas De Sandford (Abt 1340-      )
         Mother: Alice Le Boteler (Abt 1340-      )


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William Watts and Helen Sawer




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1 F Mary (Marie) Watts

           Born: Abt 1593 - England
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           Died: Bef 20 Nov 1651 - Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA
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         Spouse: Ralph Hudson, The Immigrant (Abt 1593-1651)
           Marr: England




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Thomas Saxby




Husband Thomas Saxby

           Born: Bef 1460
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           Died: WFT Est 1484-1551
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1 F Margaret Saxby

           Born: Abt 147 - England
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         Spouse: Richard Cave, Esquire (Abt 1465-Abt 1538)
           Marr: Bef 1515 30




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Sir John Scrope and Elizabeth Strathbogie




Husband Sir John Scrope

           Born: Abt 1327 - Masham, , Yorkshire, England
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           Died: 1380
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         Father: Sir Geoffery Scrope (Between 1273/1281-1340)
         Mother: Ivetta de Ros (Abt 1285-Bef 1331)


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   Other Spouse: Phillippa de Ferrers (      -      ) - WFT Est 1887-1920 31




Wife Elizabeth Strathbogie

           Born: Abt 1370 - Blair Atholl, , Perth, Scotland
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         Father: David Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (      -      )
         Mother: Elizabeth Ferrers (      -      )



   Other Spouse: William de Ferrers (      -      ) - WFT Est 1890-1909 31



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1 F Elizabeth Scrope

           Born: 1379 - England
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           Died: 8 Mar 1430 - England
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         Spouse: Sir Thomas Clarell (Bef 1390-1430)
           Marr: Bef 1407 - England



2 F Joan Scrope

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Sources


1 Jim Weber (https://myaccount.rootsweb.com/publicprofile?mn=jimweber110&kurl=http:%2F%2Fwc%2Erootsweb%2Eancestry%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Figm%2Ecgi%3Fdb%3Djweber%26id%3DI03403%26op%3DGED).

2 Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 226.

3 The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 6.

4 Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Jeff Snavely, 24 Feb 1999.

5 Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, John Carmi Parsons, 24 Feb 1999.

6 Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, XI:373-4.

7 Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org, Edward of Salisbury.

8 Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 2531.

9 Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 108-26.

10 Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, XII/1:497.

11 Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, XI:375-7.

12 The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 184.

13 Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, X:358.

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17 Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 108-25.

18 Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, XI:697.

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20 Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, XII/1:496-7.

21 Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 142-1.

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23 Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, XI:377-9.

24 Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org, Giselbert I Graf von Salm und Luxemburg.

25 Dee, Danielle Marie. AOL user Dani Dee. File uploaded to AOL "VanArsdale/Crawford/Hayes" (danidee.zip) on Nov 29, 1994.

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27 The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 19, 40.

28 The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 19, 40, 172.

29 Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org, Grafin Irmentrud von Gleiberg.

30 Mosley, Charles, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes. Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003., Volume 1, page 725.

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