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A Study of
the Paine Families
(Pain, Paine, Pane, Payne)
of Eastern Long Island, New York to 1790
(Southold, Southampton, East Hampton)


Death and Cemetery Records



Salmon Records
Private Burying Ground of Benjamin King Paine - Wading River
Other Records


Salmon Records

Sorted by father/husband

Date, Person died, father/husband, actual entry

1716 0900 Widow Paine  Paine, Widow  > Widw Pain at Oysterponds

1734 0623 Daniel Paine  Paine, Alsop  > Alsop Pains Infant Son Dani….
1731 0512 Daughter Paine  Paine, Alsop > Alsop Pains daughter 8 daies old
1731 0514 Deborah Paine  Paine, Alsop >Alsop Pains wife Deborah 26 yrs
1750 1102 Lydia Paine  Paine, Alsop  > Alsop Pains Daugter Lydiah

1782 0210 Bathsheba, wid Paine  Paine, Benjamin  > Wid Bashebe Pain
1781 0928 Benjamin Paine  Paine, Benjamin  > Benjamis Pain
1754 1012 Benjamin Paine  Paine, Benjamin  > Benj Pain Last week at Wading River
1785 0108 Mary Paine  Paine, Benjamin  > Benj Pains wife mary Wadin River

1733 0411 Isaac Paine  Paine, Isaac  > Isaac Pain died
1713 1225 Jemima Paine  Paine, Jemima  > Widw Jemima Pain

1725 1208 Elizabeth Paine  Paine, John  > Jno Pain wife Elesabeth
1707 0203 John Paine  Paine, John  > John Pain died
1753 0518 John Paine  Paine, John > Jn Pain Shot to death  45

1740 0120 Foster Paine  Paine, Joseph  > Joseph Pains child Foster
1753 0426 Joseph Paine  Paine, Joseph 61 > Joseph Pain aged about 61
1725 1009 Mary Paine  Paine, Joseph 1.5 > Joseph Pains Daug Mary    1 1/2

1725 0312 Ann Paine  Paine, Nathaniel > Nathall Pains wife Ann  (39)
1725 0302 Child Paine  Paine, Nathaniel  > Nathall Pains child
1726 0127 Daughter Paine  Paine, Nathaniel  > Nathall Pains daughter
1731 0927 Nathaniel Paine  Paine, Nathaniel  > Left Nathaniel Pain
1731 0929 Nathaniel Paine  Paine, Nathaniel > Nathniel Pain Juner    13 yrs

1698 0412 Child Paine  Paine, > Peter  & peter pains child
1698 0420 Peter ? Paine  Paine, > Peter  ……er pain buried

1725 0114 Thomas Paine  Paine, > Thomas  at Shelter Ile Tom Pain



Salmon Records - Chronological List
 

Date, Person died, father/husband, actual entry

1698 0412 184  19 Child Paine  Paine, > Peter  & peter pains child
1698 0420 184  37 Peter ? Paine  Paine, > Peter  ……er pain buried
1707 0203 187  169 John Paine  Paine, > John  John Pain died
1713 1225 188  204 Jemima Paine  > Paine, Jemima  Widw Jemima Pain
1716 0900 189  247 Widow Paine  > Paine, Widow  Widw Pain at Oysterponds
1725 0114 193  423 Thomas Paine  > Paine, Thomas  at Shelter Ile Tom Pain
1725 0302 193  448 Child Paine  > Paine, Nathaniel  Nathall Pains child
1725 0312 194  461 Ann Paine  > Paine, Nathaniel > Nathall Pains wife Ann  (39)
1725 1009 195  509 Mary Paine  > Paine, Joseph > Joseph Pains Daug Mary    1 1/2
1725 1208 195  513 Elizabeth Paine  > Paine, John  Jno Pain wife Elesabeth
1726 0127 195  521 Daughter Paine  > Paine, Nathaniel  Nathall Pains daughter
1731 0512 198  652 Daughter Paine  > Paine, Alsop >Alsop Pains daughter 8 daies old
1731 0514 198  653 Deborah Paine  > Paine, Alsop > Alsop Pains wife Deborah 26 yrs
1731 0927 198  659 Nathaniel Paine  > Paine, Nathaniel  Left Nathaniel Pain
1731 0929 198  660 Nathaniel Paine  > Paine, Nathaniel > Nathniel Pain Juner    13 yrs
1733 0411 199  712 Isaac Paine  Paine, Isaac  > Isaac Pain died
1734 0623 200  746 Daniel Paine Paine, Alsop  > Alsop Pains Infant Son Dani….
1740 0120 205  949 Foster Paine Paine, Joseph  > Joseph Pains child Foster
1750 1102 213  1258 Lydia Paine Paine, Alsop  > Alsop Pains Daugter Lydiah
1753 0426 215  1355 Joseph Pain Paine, Joseph > Joseph Pain aged about 61
1753 0518 215  1358 John Paine  Paine, John > Jn Pain Shot to death  45
1754 1012 218   Benjamin Paine  Paine, Benjamin  > Benj Pain Last week at Wading River
1781 0928 233   Benjamin Paine  Paine, Benjamin  > Benjamis Pain
1782 0210 233   Bathsheba, wid Paine  Paine, Benjamin  > Wid Bashebe Pain
1785 0108 236   Mary Paine  Paine, Benjamin  > Benj Pains wife mary Wadin River


Benjamin K. Paine Private Burying Ground

A transcript of Private Ground of Benjamin K. Payne, provided by Mr. Ned Smith, of SCHS.

-Benjamin King, Esq.  d. 9 Apr 1850, ae 70
-Betsey, wife of Benjamin King & daughter of John and Elizabeth Payne d. 31 Aug 1827, ae 42
-Mary, relict of John Pane  d. 19 Dec 1815, ae 86
-Moses Pain, d. 20 Oct 1783, ae 23
-John Pane, son of John & Elizabeth, d. 20 Sept 1806, ae 21 [prob twin bro/o Betsey King]
-John Payne, 12 Oct 1832, ae 76; 1832-76 = 1756
 


Other Deaths

Paine, John - Estate inventory taken 1703:

Probably John-2, John-2, Thomas-1 (of Salem)

The "Southold Branch of the Paine Family" (Horace Paine) reports the estate of a John Paine was taken 3 Sep 1703, in Southold, by Stephen Bayley & Benjamin Young, and gives details of that inventory. The primary asset was a sloop, valued at 80 pds, roughly one third of the estate, a slave and her child, - but no real estate showing in this inventory - which may have only been intended to inventory "personal" property, not real estate.

He goes on to say this John Paine was aged 30 years, without giving a source. I have not found a source for that age (from tombstone or estimated by author?) - and it becomes a real problem in trying to assign that date of death.

This Paine Genealogy assigns this death date to this John-3, John-2, Thomas-1 (of Salem). However, he gives this John the wife of Jemima Alsop and then he gives the kids of John & Jemima, both in the 1698 census and in his 1707 will, to another John.

This death date may very well belong to John-3, John-2, Thomas-1, but he was not married to Jemima Alsop. That John didn't write his will till 1707 (See wills.)

That John would be the one called "John, Junr" in the Southold 1698 census and having wife Sarah and sons, or grandsons, John & Nathaniel, in his household.

However, the age of 30 then becomes a problem, as a Sarah Paine, date of death 1716, age 76 = born 1640. (Ancient Burial-Grounds of Long Island, NEHGR 53:325-334, 1899,  (Edw. Doubleday Harris), 334, "Here lyeth the Body of Sarah the wife of John Paine who dyed in the 76 year of her age Septembr 3d 1716").

.That is what gives rise to the possibility that these boys may be grandsons. Or, perhaps this John is widowed and the Sarah is his widowed mother. The caution against this line of reasoning is that the census taker seemed to be careful to call widows "widow" and did not here.

The assignment of this date of death is somewhat crucial in determining who John Paine, of Wading River, was.

There are four Johns in the 1698 census.

1 - John Paine who married Jemima Alsop wrote his will 1707, so the 1703 estate inventory is not his.
2 - John Paine, brother of  Nathaniel, executed a real estate deed with Nathaniel in 1709, so it isn't his.
3 - John Paine, son of John-3 (Peter-2, Thomas-1) was almost certainly from second wife, Jemima, as he is listed last in list of children in 1698 Southold Census, and he is thusly ruled out.


That leaves, of the John Paines we are aware of from the 1698 census, the John, Junr, head of household with wife Sarah and sons John & Nathaniel. He should be considerably older than 30, by my estimation - and if the Sarah, died 1716, age 76 (would be born 1640), is his wife. I can only conclude that Horace Paine estimated his age and it is different than my estimate, since he does not give a source for the age. He is thought to be: John-3, John-2, Thomas-1 (of Salem).
 




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