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A Study of
the Paine Families
(Pain, Paine, Pane, Payne)
of Eastern Long Island, New York to 1790
(Southold, Southampton, East Hampton)
Death and Cemetery Records
Private Burying Ground of Benjamin King Paine - Wading River
Sorted by father/husband
Date, Person died, father/husband, actual entry
1716 0900 Widow Paine Paine, Widow > Widw Pain at Oysterponds
1734 0623 Daniel Paine Paine, Alsop > Alsop Pains Infant Son Dani….
1731 0512 Daughter Paine Paine, Alsop > Alsop Pains daughter 8 daies old
1731 0514 Deborah Paine Paine, Alsop >Alsop Pains wife Deborah 26 yrs
1750 1102 Lydia Paine Paine, Alsop > Alsop Pains Daugter Lydiah
1782 0210 Bathsheba, wid Paine Paine, Benjamin > Wid Bashebe Pain
1781 0928 Benjamin Paine Paine, Benjamin > Benjamis Pain
1754 1012 Benjamin Paine Paine, Benjamin > Benj Pain Last week at Wading River
1785 0108 Mary Paine Paine, Benjamin > Benj Pains wife mary Wadin River
1733 0411 Isaac Paine Paine, Isaac > Isaac Pain died
1713 1225 Jemima Paine Paine, Jemima > Widw Jemima Pain
1725 1208 Elizabeth Paine Paine, John > Jno Pain wife Elesabeth
1707 0203 John Paine Paine, John > John Pain died
1753 0518 John Paine Paine, John > Jn Pain Shot to death 45
1740 0120 Foster Paine Paine, Joseph > Joseph Pains child Foster
1753 0426 Joseph Paine Paine, Joseph 61 > Joseph Pain aged about 61
1725 1009 Mary Paine Paine, Joseph 1.5 > Joseph Pains Daug Mary 1 1/2
1725 0312 Ann Paine Paine, Nathaniel > Nathall Pains wife Ann (39)
1725 0302 Child Paine Paine, Nathaniel > Nathall Pains child
1726 0127 Daughter Paine Paine, Nathaniel > Nathall Pains daughter
1731 0927 Nathaniel Paine Paine, Nathaniel > Left Nathaniel Pain
1731 0929 Nathaniel Paine Paine, Nathaniel > Nathniel Pain Juner 13 yrs
1698 0412 Child Paine Paine, > Peter & peter pains child
1698 0420 Peter ? Paine Paine, > Peter ……er pain buried
1725 0114 Thomas Paine Paine, > Thomas at Shelter Ile Tom Pain
Salmon Records - Chronological List
Date, Person died, father/husband, actual entry
1698 0412 184 19 Child Paine Paine, > Peter & peter pains child
1698 0420 184 37 Peter ? Paine Paine, > Peter ……er pain buried
1707 0203 187 169 John Paine Paine, > John John Pain died
1713 1225 188 204 Jemima Paine > Paine, Jemima Widw Jemima Pain
1716 0900 189 247 Widow Paine > Paine, Widow Widw Pain at Oysterponds
1725 0114 193 423 Thomas Paine > Paine, Thomas at Shelter Ile Tom Pain
1725 0302 193 448 Child Paine > Paine, Nathaniel Nathall Pains child
1725 0312 194 461 Ann Paine > Paine, Nathaniel > Nathall Pains wife Ann (39)
1725 1009 195 509 Mary Paine > Paine, Joseph > Joseph Pains Daug Mary 1 1/2
1725 1208 195 513 Elizabeth Paine > Paine, John Jno Pain wife Elesabeth
1726 0127 195 521 Daughter Paine > Paine, Nathaniel Nathall Pains daughter
1731 0512 198 652 Daughter Paine > Paine, Alsop >Alsop Pains daughter 8 daies old
1731 0514 198 653 Deborah Paine > Paine, Alsop > Alsop Pains wife Deborah 26 yrs
1731 0927 198 659 Nathaniel Paine > Paine, Nathaniel Left Nathaniel Pain
1731 0929 198 660 Nathaniel Paine > Paine, Nathaniel > Nathniel Pain Juner 13 yrs
1733 0411 199 712 Isaac Paine Paine, Isaac > Isaac Pain died
1734 0623 200 746 Daniel Paine Paine, Alsop > Alsop Pains Infant Son Dani….
1740 0120 205 949 Foster Paine Paine, Joseph > Joseph Pains child Foster
1750 1102 213 1258 Lydia Paine Paine, Alsop > Alsop Pains Daugter Lydiah
1753 0426 215 1355 Joseph Pain Paine, Joseph > Joseph Pain aged about 61
1753 0518 215 1358 John Paine Paine, John > Jn Pain Shot to death 45
1754 1012 218 Benjamin Paine Paine, Benjamin > Benj Pain Last week at Wading River
1781 0928 233 Benjamin Paine Paine, Benjamin > Benjamis Pain
1782 0210 233 Bathsheba, wid Paine Paine, Benjamin > Wid Bashebe Pain
1785 0108 236 Mary Paine Paine, Benjamin > Benj Pains wife mary Wadin River
Benjamin K. Paine Private Burying Ground
A transcript of Private Ground of Benjamin K. Payne, provided by Mr. Ned Smith, of SCHS.
-Benjamin King, Esq. d. 9 Apr 1850, ae 70
-Betsey, wife of Benjamin King & daughter of John and Elizabeth Payne d. 31 Aug 1827, ae 42
-Mary, relict of John Pane d. 19 Dec 1815, ae 86
-Moses Pain, d. 20 Oct 1783, ae 23
-John Pane, son of John & Elizabeth, d. 20 Sept 1806, ae 21 [prob twin bro/o Betsey King]
-John Payne, 12 Oct 1832, ae 76; 1832-76 = 1756
Paine, John - Estate inventory taken 1703:Probably John-2, John-2, Thomas-1 (of Salem)
The "Southold Branch of the Paine Family" (Horace Paine) reports the estate of a John Paine was taken 3 Sep 1703, in Southold, by Stephen Bayley & Benjamin Young, and gives details of that inventory. The primary asset was a sloop, valued at 80 pds, roughly one third of the estate, a slave and her child, - but no real estate showing in this inventory - which may have only been intended to inventory "personal" property, not real estate.
He goes on to say this John Paine was aged 30 years, without giving a source. I have not found a source for that age (from tombstone or estimated by author?) - and it becomes a real problem in trying to assign that date of death.
This Paine Genealogy assigns this death date to this John-3, John-2, Thomas-1 (of Salem). However, he gives this John the wife of Jemima Alsop and then he gives the kids of John & Jemima, both in the 1698 census and in his 1707 will, to another John.
This death date may very well belong to John-3, John-2, Thomas-1, but he was not married to Jemima Alsop. That John didn't write his will till 1707 (See wills.)
That John would be the one called "John, Junr" in the Southold 1698 census and having wife Sarah and sons, or grandsons, John & Nathaniel, in his household.
However, the age of 30 then becomes a problem, as a Sarah Paine, date of death 1716, age 76 = born 1640. (Ancient Burial-Grounds of Long Island, NEHGR 53:325-334, 1899, (Edw. Doubleday Harris), 334, "Here lyeth the Body of Sarah the wife of John Paine who dyed in the 76 year of her age Septembr 3d 1716").
.That is what gives rise to the possibility that these boys may be grandsons. Or, perhaps this John is widowed and the Sarah is his widowed mother. The caution against this line of reasoning is that the census taker seemed to be careful to call widows "widow" and did not here.
The assignment of this date of death is somewhat crucial in determining who John Paine, of Wading River, was.
There are four Johns in the 1698 census.1 - John Paine who married Jemima Alsop wrote his will 1707, so the 1703 estate inventory is not his.
2 - John Paine, brother of Nathaniel, executed a real estate deed with Nathaniel in 1709, so it isn't his.
3 - John Paine, son of John-3 (Peter-2, Thomas-1) was almost certainly from second wife, Jemima, as he is listed last in list of children in 1698 Southold Census, and he is thusly ruled out.
That leaves, of the John Paines we are aware of from the 1698 census, the John, Junr, head of household with wife Sarah and sons John & Nathaniel. He should be considerably older than 30, by my estimation - and if the Sarah, died 1716, age 76 (would be born 1640), is his wife. I can only conclude that Horace Paine estimated his age and it is different than my estimate, since he does not give a source for the age. He is thought to be: John-3, John-2, Thomas-1 (of Salem).
I am presenting this information so that anyone with additional info can make contributions or corrections to this genealogy - please don't hesitate to drop me an e-mail with any comments.
Copyright, Norris Taylor, 2000
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