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Note: see tankonyvta in Hungarian, (English) genealogy ref. OR hungarianquarterly ".. The Hatvanys were amongst the most prominent Jewish families in Hungary. Wealth and culture went hand in hand in this financially powerful and influential clan. Legend has it that their maternal ancestors were influential financiers in Buda in the 15th century, as usurers to King Matthias Corvinus. Shortly afterwards, they moved to Prague and Warsaw, to the lands of the Jagiellons; at the end of the 18th century some of the family resettled in Hungary. The alleged creator of the Golem, the mysterious Rabbi (see Loew family) geni of Prague, also belonged to this family. Paternally, they traced their ancestry to a prominent mid-18th century Great Hungarian Plain family, in and around the town of Cegléd. In the reign of the Emperor Joseph II, at the time of Germanization, being "good Jews", they acquired the name Deutsch. Like the majority of the Jews in Hungary, the Deutsches identified emotionally with the Magyars. The Sterns, a family that produced 1 of the most valiant soldiers of the Hungarian Revolution and War of Independence of 1848–49, the legendary Sergeant-Major Csillag (the name was already Magyarized) wikipedia - merged with the Deutsches. The Hatvanys cherished their militant traditions, several of them were of the left in the 20th century, not necessarily as activists but certainly in spirit.."
Note-1: see Ignác in Hétköznapi hősök OR hungarianquarterly cont'd: ".. The immense family fortune was founded by Ignác Deutsch, who set up businesses 1st in Arad and later in the rest of the country and in Budapest. Although they owned a great number of businesses, their astronomical wealth was derived mainly from sugar refining, which was truly vertically integrated. They leased and purchased enormous estates on which they grew sugar-beet, financed by their own bank (Ignác Deutsch & Sons) and they were involved in the wholesaling of sugar. Their principal refineries were in Hatvan, Sárvár and Šurany (Nagy Surany, Nagysurány). The Treaty of Trianon affected the family only slightly, since their wealth was based upon refineries in the Great Plain and Transdanubia, and upon arable land. Their true home remained the Great Hungarian Plain and Budapest.." And yivoencyclopedia "The Hatvany-Deutsch family played a decisive role for several generations in the economic and later the cultural life of Hungary.. In addition to their produce business, they worked in banking and insurance and were the chief contractors constructing the Košice, Slovakia - Ödenburg and Munkács–Beszkid railway lines. The firm also helped to establish flour mills in Budapest and, later, in rural areas. When the stock market crashed in 1873, the family was able to double its possessions. After the economic crisis, the ownership of Concordia Power Mill was almost exclusively in the Deutsch family’s hands. At the time of his death, Ignác Deutsch left an estate worth more than 2 million Hungarian forints to his heirs.."
Note-2: Simon Abelsberg tombstone; Here rests a man who lived soberly, whose actions brought blessings, who lived simply and in piety, dutiful to his faith ... Served as representative of the Jewish community in Neusatz =Novi Sad, Serbia?. He died here in his place of birth on 20 March 1842. His earthly remains were brought from the old cemetery in June 1882 thanks to his grandsons (the sons of Ignatz Deutsch also deceased). Tombstone next to Simon, is that of his daughter Babette Gottlieb above, also moved from the old cemetery by her sister’s sons *orig text; Simon Abelsberg - Hier ruht ein Biedermann, der Segensvoll gewirkt, der Fromm und Schlicht gelebt, dem Glauben in der Pflicht … Der 50 Jahre Vorsteher der Israelitischen Gemeinde zu Neusatz, starb er hier in seinem Geburtsort am 9 Nissau 5602, 20 März 1842. Bei der Überführung aus dem alten Friedhof von den Enkeln des Verstorbenen, Dank seiner Enkel, die Söhne des seligen Ignatz Deutsch, Juni 1882 OR Ignác & Terez Adelsberg (1802-1863) "ch. Jozsef (1824-1903), Bernat (1826-1893) famous railway builders" daughter of Zsigmond Adelsberg renamed Jakubai Zsigmond Nemeshegyi in 1837 grain trader, agent of General Insurance references, J-gen?
Note: Jewish encl., wikipedia "..Sándor Deutsch de Hatvan joined the family trading business, and with the help of his cousins, made it into a major player in the sugar industry. Through their firm, Ignatz Deutsch & Sons, founded in Arad in 1822 and later moved to Budapest, the cousins grew sugar beet on large estates, set up refineries across Hungary for processing and exported their sugar on world markets. Although sugar was the source of the vast Hatvany fortune, the family was also involved in flour mills and grain trading, banking, among other activities. In 1908, Sándor was made a baron by Franz Joseph I of Austria on Habsburg page, geni, wiki became a member of the Senate, and assumed the name Hatvany-Deutsch. Sándor Hatvany-Deutsch participated in the creation of the National Association of Hungarian Industrialists in 1902, supported hospitals and sponsored a theater in Budapest.." AND yivoencyclopedia ".. cousins József and Sándor took over the bankrupt sugar factory of Šurany, Slovakia. With 2 other companies (Henrik Brüll & Sons and Henrik Kohner & Sons), they founded the distillery of Szeged and Timişoara (Temesvár), Romania. Later they essentially dissolved two other companies on their own and founded the sugar factories of Garamvölgy, Slovakia and Hatvan, Sárvár, Hungary. In the 1890s, the company controlled a 27 percent share in Hungarian sugar production. Not only did it manage to drive out Austrian competition, creating almost a monopoly, but by the turn of the century it helped to turn sugar into one of Hungary’s most important export products. While the family’s interest in power mills reached 4 million crowns in Budapest alone, they expanded to rural areas as well. Sándor Hatvany-Deutsch was the principal shareholder in 6 steam mills, and he also had significant interests in timber and paper production. The family had connections with other institutions including the Hungarian Industrial and Commercial Bank, the Domestic Bank, and the Hungarian Commercial Bank of Pest. They were elevated to baron status in 1910. József Hatvany-Deutsch played an active role in the life of the Jewish community; as a result, the minister of religion and education appointed him president of the board of directors of the Hungarian Rabbinical Seminary. At the same time, he served as president of the Israelite Hungarian Literary Society, which was founded in 1894."
Note: wiki, yivoencyclopedia ".. Lajos was an important patron of literature and a champion of modernism. He wrote major scholarly studies of the poets Sándor Petőfi and Endre Ady (the latter was his close friend). Hatvany was a leftist, liberal thinker who believed in the values of democracy and civil society. These beliefs were not welcome in Hungary after the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian monarchy; consequently, he had to leave the country twice. After participating in the 1918 bourgeois-democratic revolution as a member of the Hungarian National Council, he moved to Austria and Germany until 1927. When he returned to Hungary that year, he was tried for defaming the country, as he had sharply attacked the regime of Governor Miklós Horthy that emerged in Hungary after the suppression of the 1919 Communist revolution. Sentenced to 1 1/2 years in prison, he wasreleased for health reasons after serving 9 months. Because of the growing threat of fascism, Hatvany left Hungary again, first to Paris, and then to England in 1938. He returned to Hungary in 1947, where he taught at the University in Budapest, received the Kossuth Prize in 1959, and became a member of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences in 1960. Hatvany is primarily remembered as a novelist, though he was also a poet and playwright. His major novel, Urak és emberek (1927; the first part translated into English as Bondy Jr., in 1931), is so closely modeled after Thomas Mann’s Buddenbrooks that it was mockingly called Judenbrooks.."
Note: wikipedia ".. His collection some 750-800 works of art included paintings from Tintoretto, Cézanne, Renoir, Ingres and Courbet, most notably L'Origine du monde and Femme nue couchée. Towards the end of WW-2 his paintings were looted by Soviet troops but some were ransomed by Hatvany. In 1947 he emigrated to Paris. In 1955 L’Origine du monde was sold at auction for 1.5 million francs. Paintings that were looted from Hatvany's collection are still hanging on museum walls in Budapest, Moscow, and Nizhny Novgorod.."
*2nd wife of Sándor (Alexander) Hatvany Deutsch: Ottilia AMBERG Born: 1817 ?? *geni
Note: hungarianquarterly cont'd: ".. The “Son” in the firm’s name was Ignác’s younger son Bernát. In 1879, with several members of the family and mainly as landowners, he was ennobled with the prename Hatvany, referring to a town in which the family had several business interests. The next generation, which too enjoyed a spectacular wave of success, was famous for large-scale industrial investments. Members of the family changed their name to Hatvany-Deutsch."
Note: tankonyvtar ".. József, Since 1884, co-owner of the Deutsch Ig & Son Co. 1888 from Hatvan sugar factory., after his cousin and brother- business partner Sándor dignity of baron in 1910, received the same year was a member of the House of Lords."
*2nd husband of Lily Hatvany Deutsch: baron Gyula (Julius) MADARASSY-BECK "aka. Beck de Madaras" Born: Aug 18, 1872 in Budapest. Married: Dec 21, 1918 in Budapest. occupation: Direktor of Kreditbank, Budapest. Died: Nov 20, 1939 in Budapest Father: baron dr. jur. Hugo Beck (de Madaras) enobled 12/28/1895 Mother: Emilia Pollak
*2nd husband of Mariella: Edward Karl SUNDSTROM Born: 1917 Married: 1946 Divorced: 1965 died: 1983
- Anthony Andrew SUNDSTROM
- Emma DEUTSCH de HATVANI Born: 1858 Died: 1901 + baron Sándor (Alexander) HATVANY DEUTSCH Born: Nov 17, 1852 in Arad, Romania. occupation: Art Patron and Head of the Sugar firm Ignatz Deutsch & Sons establishing Beet-Sugar Factories in Šurany, Garamvölgy, Slovakia and Hatvan, Hungary. Died: Feb 18, 1913 in Šurany, Slovakia or Budapest *1st cousin above
- Adél (Adele) DEUTSCH de HATVANI Born: 1861 Died: 1927 + baron Nándor (Ferdinand) (see von SCHOSSBERGER family) Father: baron Sigmund (Sigismund, Zsigmond) von Schossberger (1826 - 10/5/1900 Budapest?) banking, tobacco, sugar, royal commissioner Mother: Therese (Teréz, Terézzel) Mayer von Gunthof
- Károly (Karl, Carl) DEUTSCH de HATVANI Born: 1863 Died: 1943-4 + Renée CSÁNYI *descendant: Ron J. Hatvany
Note: tankonyvtar "1890 member & shareholder in family business Deutsch Ignatius & Son Co. In 1903, served as a director include the Great Surányi Sugar Refinery Plc, and has in Vas County Concordiának Sugar factories and in 1913, the Hungarian Discount and Exchange Bank Ltd. and Bank of Traffic Hungaria Bank Rt.," First-class China Collecter
- Mariann DEUTSCH de HATVANI
- János DEUTSCH de HATVANI
- baron Béla (Arnold, Avraham) HATVANY DEUTSCH Born: Feb 7, 1866 in Budapest J-Hung-birth. Nov 3, 1897 awarded nobility and use of double surname Hatvany Deutsch. Residence: Vienna, Austria. Died: 1933 in Sárvár, Hungary + Klára /Clara (see von TAUSSIG family) Father: ritter Theodor von Taussig (1848 - 11/24/1909 Vienna) NFP chief executive officer of the Austrian state railways, etc. *ref. Mother: Sidonie Schiff
Note: ref. "1894-96 the sugar factory, which belonged to the Baron Capital Consortium of Hatvany family was built. Béla Hatvany Deutsch was the founder and director of Sárvár factory. In 1866, he was born in Budapest, his higher studies he completed in Vienna, he has led the Hatvan property and directed the sugar beet production. In 1895, he led Sárvárstarted sugar factory with production. In 1908 he was awarded the title Baron, so he became a member of the Upper House. He was amember of the Directorate for Interessenskreis the family owned sugar factories Hatvan, Nagysurány and Oroszka, the Austria-Hungarian Bank. He has up until his death in 1933 in his castle, near the sugar factory. Together with his wife, Klára Taussig.." AND tankonyvtar "since 1897 member, shareholder of Deutsch Ignatius & Son Co. partnerships . In 1913, he served as a director of the family interests of sixty, and a high - Surányi Pohronský Ruskov factories and railways Odenbergi Košice . In addition, 3 Austrian sugar factories and the Austro- Hungarian Bank board of directors is in place"
- Pál HATVANY DEUTSCH Born: 1900 occupation: Received the Textile Factory in Cluj-Napoca (Kolozsvár), Romania
- baron Péter HATVANY DEUTSCH Born: 1902-3 in Vienna, Austria. Died: 1936 buried in the Jewish cemetery in the Salgótarján - street
Irén DEUTSCH de HATVANI Born: 1867 Died: Jan 22, 1880 in Budapest, Hungary FS#540 obit
- Janka DEUTSCH de HATVANI Born: 1874 Died: 1940 + baron Mór (Maurice) Lipót HERZOG csetei Born: 1869 Residence: 93 Andrassy St. in Budapest. Died: 1934 Father: Péter Herzog csetei Victoria Gőzmalom Rt. főrészvényesének, a század egyik legnagyobb terménykereskedőjének
Note: Los Angeles Times - David de Csepel of Altadena (great-grandson of baron Mór Lipót Herzog), whose family seeks the return of artworks seized during World War II, is now getting a hearing in a Washington court OR legal document, Hungary on Trial - Herzog Family Sues for Return of Art Collection, The last Hostage of the Holocaust - On July 27, 2010, heirs to the Herzog Collection filed a lawsuit against Hungary to seek the return of artworks illegally held hostage by the country. The suit is widely regarded by art experts as the world’s last unresolved Holocaust art claim of this magnitude. The complaint involves over 40 works with a combined value over $100 million, including masterworks by El Greco, Francisco de Zurbaran, and Lucas Cranach the Elder.." AND Lawsuit Over $100 Million Art Collection Illegally Held by Hungary, article-2 ".. Hungary, especially Budapest, was home to many outstanding art collections during the inter-war period. The majority, about 70-80%, belonged to famous Jewish art collectors and their families. The two largest collections were assembled by the Herzog and the Hatvany families, respectively. Baron Mor Lipot Herzog, whose father Peter started the collection, purchased a majority of his collection at international auctions and galleries. The collection, which was kept in the family palace on Andrassy út boulevard (Budapest’s Champs-Elysees), featured Old Masters mixed with Renaissance furniture, tapestries, sculptures and decorative arts, altogether approximately 2,500 pieces at its peak. The paintings included works by El Greco, Lucas Cranach the Elder, Zurbaran, Gustave Courbet, Velázquez, and Mihály Munkácsy as well as impressionist art by Renoir, Monet and others. The collection constituted an exquisite display of the history of art in Europe. In 1940, the three Herzog children, Elizabeth, András and István inherited the collection..."
- Erzsébet (Elizabeth) HERZOG Born: abt 1898 Died: 1992 in New York, NY + Alfonz (Alfons) WEISS de CSEPEL Married: 1920 Grandson: David de Csepel ref. & Joy Chen Siblings: Elsa /Elza Eva Weiss (4/6/1885 Pest - ) J-gen, Eugen Weiss, Marianne Weisz von Csepel (10/29/1888 - 3/29/1971) & baron Moric (see Kornfeld family) (12/30/1882 - 11/4/1967 Washington, DC), Daisy Weiss, Edith Weiss Father: baron Manfred Weiss de Csepel (born see Weiss family) (4/11/1857 Pest, Hungary - 12/25/1922) wapedia, newspaper leading industrialist, whose conglomerate included the Manfred Weiss Works, the largest machine factory in Hungary, with its main plant on the island of Csepel.. The factory produced canned foods, agricultural machinery and other metal products for distribution throughout the world, employing some 100,000 workers.. Csepel Motorcycles & Trucks, ref, ref2, brother of Berthold Weiss de Csepel ref. Mother: Alice (see Wahl family) (Becs = location? - )
Note: Kin Try to Right Nazi Wrong - 11/19/2000: "Elizabeth Weiss de Csepel covered the walls of her modest apartment in Manhattan with memories of her family's noble past. The photographs were of priceless paintings the Nazis looted from her family in Hungary during World War II. Among the works by El Greco, Courbet, Van Dyck and other masters, Weiss' favorite was a painting by Lucas Cranach the Elder depicting an angel's visit to the parents of John the Baptist. The $20 million collection, which hung in the home of her father, Baron Maurice Herzog, is among the 750,000 pieces of looted art that Jewish heirs worldwide are fighting to reclaim more than a half-century after the war's end. Forced to flee Budapest in 1944, Weiss never saw the paintings again. She died 8 years ago at the age of 94.."
- Martha WEISS de CSEPEL + (?) NIERENBERG
- Gabriel WEISS de CSEPEL *ref. Herzog Art legal document
- John WEISS de CSEPEL
- András (Andrew) HERZOG Died: 1943 on the Russian front + Maria Izabella PARRAVICINI
Note: András was drafted to forced labor service in 1942 and was sent, without arms, clothes and with little food to the Russian front where he died along with 27,000 of his fellow forced labor servicemen
- Angela Maria HERZOG Residence: fled to Argentina, later settling in Italy
- Julia Alice HERZOG Residence: fled to Argentina, later settling in Italy
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