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the same account was also showed that the like charge for ordinary and
extraordinary besides new buildings and repairing of ships in dry docks, for
five years next ensuing the first undertaking of the said bargain, did stand
her Majesty in the sum of £25,377.14s.8d which being divided into 5 equal
parts, showeth the charge of each year to be £5,075.10s.11d.
So as by comparing the said accounts together, it may seem her
Highness hath saved in the latter 5 years £4,036.2s.6d. which falleth out
for each of the 5 years £807.4s.6d. But
it is to be considered that, in the five years before the bargain, there was
bestowed upon the ordinary for ransacking (+) repairing and trimming of the
said ships in harbour, in wages and victuals of carpenters, caulkers and
laborers and provisions for the same works, the sum of £2,200 yearly, which
in my conscience was no more than needed; and if there were any evil dealing
in the expending thereof (as I know none), the same was in the master
shipwrights whom we trusted. Likewise
it is to be considered that the latter 5 years of the bargain there was
assigned out of the £4,000.0s.0d which was appointed for the ordinary for
£1,000.0s.0d for the doing of the like works and charges before declared
viz. wages and victuals of carpenters, caulkers and labourers and provision
for the same work and to it appeareth that there was laid out in the former
5 years £6,000.0s.0d more than in the latter 5 years for the like works in
repairing and trimming of the ships, which was yearly a charge of £1,200.0s.0d
more than in the latter 5 years. And
if the office had forgone the expending of the said £1,200.0s.0d yearly for
the former 5 years (as in duty it was not thought convenient) then the
charge of the ordinary and extraordinary in harbour, besides the new
building and repairing of ships in dry docks, have been for the said 5 years
£1,963 than was spent in the latter 5 years, which is yearly £3,921.15s.4d. It
may be alleged that her Majesty's ships with the £1,000.0s.0d. yearly since
the bargain, hath been as well and sufficiently ransacked, trimmed, repaired
and done as they were in the former 5 years with the charge of £2,200
yearly, the which in my conscience is most untrue.
And for the better trial, if her Majesty be pleased to call the
master shipwrights, working of all sorts, clerks and any others that had
dealings in the works on the former or latter times, to declare their
knowledge and conscience, upon their oaths, then I doubt not but the truth
will be manifested. And
of these reasons before set down may not satisfy, then let the whole charge
for ordinary and extraordinary, since the first taking of the bargain to
this day, be collected and truly set down.
In the doing thereof there must be good regard had to the new titles
used in the account of this latter time viz. charges for provisions of
double furniture, charges of new buildings of wharves and houses,
transportations and suchlike, which in the former time before the bargain,
were comprised under the titles of ordinary and extraordinary in harbour;
and thereby shall manifestly appear that the said sparing of the ordinary in
repairing, trimming and ransacking of her Majesty's ships in the latter
time, hath bred a far greater charge to her Highness than was in the like
time before the bargain; beside the clouterly (clumsy)
patching and doing of the same, very discommodious in the use of the
ships". (+)
Ransacking - thoroughly overhauling and examining. August
9th, memoranda from Burghley
(ccxiv
6 autograph): "24th
July, 1588 - sent to Dover Sir
William Wynter for the Lord Henry Seymour 4 lasts". August 12th, 1588 Seymour to Walsingham (ccxvi 1 - holograph addressed): "This
morning my Lord Admiral sent unto me, desiring very earnestly to speak with
me and Sir William Wynter; and
the message was no sooner delivered but there was descried almost 30 sails
afar off." August
16th 1588 - The Council to Burghley (BM
Egerton MS 1525 f.14 signed and addressed): "After
our right hearty commendations to your good Lordship: Whereas there was a
Privy Seal directed to your Lordship, bearing the date the 13th of July last
past, for the defraying of the charges for the victualling of those ships
which were at the seas, as well under our very good Lord the Lord Admiral of
England as the Lord Henry Seymour, according such certificates as the
numbers of men that hall from time to times serve in the said Navy as your
Lordship shall receive either from the said Lord Admiral, the Lord Henry
Seymour and Sir William Wynter, knight,
or from six of us, from month to month according as there shall be occasion
for the continuance of the service". August 22nd, 1588 - Howard to the Council (ccxv 41 signed and addressed): "May
it please your Lordships: Upon my coming back to Dover the 21st of August
about three of the clock in the afternoon, I presently sent for the Lord
Henry Seymour, Sir William Wynter,
Sir Francis Drake, Sir John Hawkyns, Sir Henry Palmer and Mr Thomas Fenner
to come unto me, to confer with them for the present consideration of her
Majesty's service; who declared unto me the state of the fleet which with
sorrow and grief I must deliver unto your Lordships". August 26th Hawkins to Burghley (ccxv 56 signed with an autograph postscript by Lord Howard, addressed): "Right
Honourable mine special good Lord - this day my Lord Admiral called
Sir William Wynter and me aboard his Lordship's ship and showed unto us
your Lordship's letter of the 24th August, whereby your Lordship required to
be advertised what numbers of mariners and soldiers here were in the ships
that are here with my Lord. Those
ships that are under my Lord Seymour,
Sir William Wynter doth assure my Lord they have their full numbers. August 28th Hawkins to Burghley (ccxv 63): "I
have six companies that do pay. There
are two clerks of Mr Holstok's two of Mr Borough's and Sir William Wynter in person; that helpeth what can and my brothers;
and a clerk of the check, appointed by the officer to keep and order the
books of those ships under Sir Francis Drake's charge, which I sent for post
to Plymouth when I arrived at Harwich. My
Lord hath now received order to discharge the army, which (I) assure your
Lordship my Lord do pass with all the speed possible; and Sir William Wynter and I am not behindhand to further the easing of
the charge. I
have showed your Lordship's letter to my Lord Admiral and Sir William Wynter, who can be judge of my care and painful travail
and the desire I have to ease the charge. August 29th Howard to Walsingham (cvcxv 66): "I
do leave Sir William Wynter, Sir
John Hawkyns and Sir Martin Frobisher with the captain and one lieutenant to
be in the ships. Sir I think
that myself, my Lord Henry Seymour, my Lord Thomas Howard and my Lord
Sheffield will be at the Court on Sunday; for I trust by tomorrow night to
despatch all things here, and to have order with Sir
William Wynter and Sir John Hawkyns for rest; as also with Sir Henry
Palmer, who remaineth with the charge of the ships in the Narrow Seas. August
27th Seymour to Walsingham
(ccxv
24): "When
I anchored he came to dinner unto me, where he found Sir Henry Palmer, Edward
Wynter and John Wynter, Sir William being ill at ease in his bed". September 4th Hawkins to Burghley (ccxvi 3): "Right
Honourable my very good Lord; As this instant all her Majesty's ships
arrived and met together in the Downs,
Sir William Winter and I gave order to know what company of men were
left in the ships; and there was notice brought unto us from every ship of
their companies they had at this present which I note to your Lordship
herewith; and this is the first hour that there was any mean to do anything
in this matter." Narrow
Seas - The "Vanguard" - 250, "Foresight"
- 110, "Aid" - 120 (amongst
others). The Petition of the Captains of Sandwich and Dover (cvxvi 67): "That
whereas upon letters of demand sent by your Honours to the said townships,
they have dutifully and faithfully (as they trust) served her Majesty by the
space of two months now passed, at their own great and excessive cost and
charges and did for the great weighty considerations remembered in your
Honour's letters double the charge requested; and those two months being
expired, were commanded by the Honourable the Lord Henry Seymour, then
Admiral in the Narrow Seas, to take in victuals of her Majesty's and to
serve other two months, which we have accordingly very sufficiently
performed, as by his Lordship's and
Sir William Wynter's their discharge under their hands may and doth
appear." List of the Fleet (ccxv 76): No.
19 "Foresight", 300
tons, 110 mariners, 20 gunners, 20 soldiers - Total 160 Captains and
officers: Christopher Baker, Boatswain: James Andrews.
Built in 1560, Portugal 1587, William
Wynter, junior; Azores 1591 Captain Thomas Vavassour, at the capture of
the great carrack in 1592, Robert Crosse, West Indies 1595-6 Wynter, condemned in
1604. No.
65 - "Delight" 50 tons, 40 men, William Coxe belonged to
Sir William Wynter. Scale of pay (ccxxvii 62 a late report or copy about 1628): Expedition
at Sea Anno 1588 - Regiment of Lord Henry Seymour, Admiral viz men 1,658..
For himself, being captain and admiral per diem 40s from the 14th May
until the 15th of August; Sir Henry Palmer at 20s per diem from the first of
January to the 13th May; Sir William Wynter and Sir Martin Frobisher at 20s a piece per
diem. Miscellaneous
Accounts (Pipe
Office Declared Account 2224): Prest,
conduct and coat money of mariners, gunners and soldiers from divers places
prested to serve in the aforesaid ships viz. in calling to service after the
rate of 1d. the men for every mile, according to the distance of the places
from whence they were prested £2,295.13s.1d; together with the prest,
conduct and coat money of the several regiments viz. of the Right Honourable,
the Lord Charles Howard, Lord Admiral £120; the Lord Henry Seymour £60,
the Lord Thomas Howard £30, the Lord Eedmund Sheffield £30, Edward Fenton
Esq., £20, George Beeston Esq., £15, Benjamin Gonson Esq., £15 and Sir
Robert Southwell, Sir William Wynter,
knight and William Borough Esq £90 - In all £2,275.13s.1d. 2 ships of the Armada were abandoned to the enemy, 3 were lost in France, 2 in Holland, 2 sunk in battle, 19 were wrecked in Scotland and Ireland and the fate of 35 was unknown. According to other accounts 4-10 ships were sunk during the battle when they were scattered by the 8 English fire ships and others were damaged. Some men reached Ireland escaped and were murdered by the Irish, others returned to Spain. The Spaniards threw their horses overboard and fled north to Scotland where 50 ships were said to have been wrecked and the Irish shores were heaped with corpses and broken timber. There are places on the coasts of Ireland which are a grim memorial to their fate. On the west coast there is a place called Finn na Spainneach (Spanish Point) in Co. Clare near Milltown Malbay, another called Spainnarts Graves on Fair Isle and Carricknaspania near Streedagh. Sir William Winter was hurt by the recoil of a gun during the battle against the Spanish Armada and died on 20.2.1589 but his sons Edward and William and his nephew John continued voyaging. In the expedition to Portugal in 1589: "Foresight" - Captain William Winter (State Papers Dom. Eliz.. xxiii 76 9.4.1589 & Armada Papers ii p.236 et seq. Prof. Laughton's list). In
the Channel Squadron under Martin Frobisher: "Antelope" - John
Winter, captain and vice-admiral 1st January to 13th July 1589 at 8
shillings a day . Sir
John Hawkins & Sir Martin Frobisher's voyage to the coast of Spain and
the Islands 1590: "Foresight",
300 tons - William Winter 25th
May to 8th November (Pipe
Office Declared Accounts 2226). Drake
went on his next voyage on 28.8.1595 with John Hawkins in the ships "Salomon",
"Bonaventure", "Elizabeth Constance",
"Phoenix", "Jewel", "Little John",
"Delight", "Pegasus", "Exchange" and "Francis". Hakluyt related: "A
fleet to the Indies, Sir Francis Drake and Sir John Hawkins, Generals,
wherein they ventured deeply and died in the voyage 1595: "Foresight", 300 tons - William Winter - 22nd July 1595 to 2nd June 1596 (Pipe
Office Declared Accounts 2233). The
Voyage truly discoursed made by Sir Francis Drake and Sir John Hawkins,
chiefly pretended for some special service on the islands and main of the
West Indies with 6 of the
Queen's ship and 21 other ships and barks containing 2,500 men and boys in
the year 1595 in which voyage both the foresaid knights died by sickness. We
broke ground out of the sound of Plymouth on Thursday the twenty-eighth of
August, and that night anchored again in Cawsand Bay, where we rode till
Friday. Then we set sail and
stood southwest and above 3 of the clock the next morning the "Hope" where Sir Thomas Baskerville went, struck upon the
eddy stone and shot off a piece but after cleared herself well enough.
On Monday at six of the clock in the morning the Lands End bare
northwest and by north and then we stood away south-west and by south for
the coast of Spain. The fleet reached Fuerteventura in the Canary Islands on 26.8.1595 and anchored in Gran Canaria on the 27th. "The twenty sixth we at Fuerteventura, being one of the islands of the Canaries. The twenty-seventh being Saturday by break of day we had overshot the chief town of Grand Canary to the north-east and then stood about for it again, and by nine of the clock were an anchor fair between the fort to the eastward of the town some league. At the time of our landing there rode there at anchor some hours the "Saloman", the "Bonaventure" the "Elizabeth Constance", the "Phoenix", the "Jewel", the "Little John", the "Delight", the "Pegasus", the "Exchange" , the "Francis", the caravel and two ketches." They
sailed for the Cape Verde Islands on 28.8.1595 and then for Martinique which
they reached on 27.10.1595. "The twenty eighth being Sunday at ten of the clock at night we set sail and stood away southwest and south-southwest some two hundred leagues, until we came in the height of the islands of Cape Verde and then more westerly for Martinique, one of the islands of the West Indies which we saw the twenty-seventh of October". They anchored at Marie Galante from where they set off for Dominica, landing in the islands of Todos Santos and anchored at Guadalupe. They sailed past the islands of Montserrat, Redonda, Eustatius, St. Christopher (Kitts) and Saba and anchored in the Virgin Islands on 8.11.1595 where John Hawkins fell ill. On 12.11.1595 they set sail through a small strait for San Juan de Puerto Rico where Hawkins died. The English attacked a small town and looted it on 13.11.1595 and captured a Spanish pinnace from Hispaniola on the 18th. On the 25th found themselves southwest of Mona, a flat island between Hispaniola and San Juan de Puerto Rico: "On
the twenty-fifth day of November we stood way south-west and saw Mona being
a low flat island between Hispaniola and San Juan de Puerto Rico.
That day the "Exchange" of
Captain Winter spent her bowsprit; and in the beginning of the night the
"Phoenix" was sent back
to seek her. Which by God's
help that night met with her and kept her company until the next morning,
then taking a small cable from her for a tow.
But by nine that morning she spent her main mast and split her
foreyard, breaking also her tow. So
as they were fain to save some trifles out of her and the men and to sink
the hull." They sighted Curaçao and Aruba on the 29th and on 30.11.1595, the Monges islands, landing on Cabo de la Vela. On 1.12.1595 they embarked their men for Rio de la Hacha which they captured with the pearl fishing town of Rancheria and burnt villages near Tapia. On the 18th they burned Rancheria and Rio de la Hacha. They set sail for Cape Aguja which they reached on the 20th, took and burned the city of Santa Marta. On the 26th they arrived at Nombre de Dios and captured it. On the 29th Sir Thomas Baskerville set off for Panama and on the 30th Drake burned Nombre de Dios. Baskerville returned and the fleet sailed on 5th January 1596, anchoring on the 10th at the island of Escudo (de Veraguas in the Mosquito Gulf). On the 15th Drake fell ill. the fleet went set sail for Portobelo and Nombre de Dios. Drake died on the 28th and was buried at sea off Portobelo. Before dying he made his brother Thomas Drake and Captain Jonas Bodenham his executors and his nephew heir to all his property except for one manor which he gave to Bodenham. More men died and several ships had to be sunk, others were lost. The fleet set sail on 8.2.1596, passing Santa Marta, Cape St. Anthony, Grand Cayman, Jamaica and Cuba. On 1.3.1596 they met a Spanish fleet which they attacked. On the 2nd they reached Cape Corrientes, Cuba which they left for the Gulf of Bahamas and landed at Cape Florida on the 10th. They arrived and landed at Santa Cruz on 17.4.1596. By the begining of May they reached the West of England. The families of Hawkins, Drake, Raleigh & Winter intermarried. Drake was kinsman of Hawkins and cousin of Robert Barrett, burnt at the stake in Seville. His first wife, Mary Newman, died in January 1582 and was buried at Budeaux near Plymouth and in 1585 he married as his 2nd wife Elizabeth, daughter of Sir George Sydenham whose second husband was Sir William Courtenay. Sir Francis Drake at lived at Gatcombe Park in Gloucestershire and Sir Walter Raleigh at Purton manor near Severn Bridge which crosses the river above Sharpness dock just past Lydney, Gloucestershire. Arthur, Charles & Henry Champernowne (d. 1570) of Modbury were Walter Raleigh's cousins. There was a branch of the Raleigh family at Farnborough, Warkwickshire: William, son of John Raleigh of Thornborrow, Warks > Edward Raleigh of Farnborough, Warks & Ilfracombe, Devon, sheriff of Warwickshire & Leicestershire (b. c. 1442). (“Plantagenet Ancestors of 17th century colonists” - David Faris). Fig.
94
- Drake, Raleigh, Sydenham & Winter TABLE
I - John Sydenham, son and heir (d. 1460) = Alice, d. and heiress of John
Sturton of Preston [Joan, co-heiress of John Stourton of Preston &
Brympton d'Eversay, Somerset] > Alexander Sydenham = widow of (Sir
William) Popham >: (A)
Edward Sydenham of Dalveton (?) > [John Sydenham of Combe Sydenham b.
1468 d. 1542 = Elizabeth, d. of Humphrey Audley = (2) Joan, d. of Sir John
Arundell of Lanherne > Sir John Sydenham knighted in 1549 (d. 1557) =
Ursula Bridges, sister of John, Lord Chandos of Suddeley} > Sir George
Sydenham knighted in 1584 George Sydenham of Combe Stoke, Devon, captain in
the Low Countries = Ellin, d. of Richard Moore of Collumpton, Devon [=
Elizabeth, d. of Christopher Hales) > Elizabeth Sydenham m. 1556 (1) Sir
Francis Drake = (2) Sir William Courtenay of Powderham, Devon] TABLE
II - John Sydenham, son and heir (d. 1460) = Alice, d. and heiress of John
Sturton of Preston [Joan, co-heiress of John Stourton of Preston &
Brympton d'Eversay, Somerset] > Alexander Sydenham = widow of (Sir
William) Popham >: (A)
Silvester Sydenham (d. 1525) of North Petherton, Somerset) [= Joan, heiress
of Sir Ralph Goch] > daughter (Eleanor) = Edward
Winter of Trebarwith, Cornwall > Jane Winter = Sir George Rogers of
Cannington > Mary Rogers = George
Winter of Dyrham [Visitation
of Somersetshire]. Sir
Richard Archdeacon or Ercedeckne = Jane, heiress of John Bosowr > Jane
Archdeacon = Thomas
Winter (d. 1377) of Warwickshire > Thomas Winter (d. 1513) of
Warwickshire, Keeper of the Park of Wedgenock in 1485 = Joan (d. 1509), d.
of John Archdeacon of Trebarwith (d. 1491) by his wife Margery >: 1.
Thomas Winter of Warwickshire (d. 1518). 2.
Edmund Winter of Trebarwith (d. 1550) = Eleanor, d. of Silvester Sydenham
(of North Petherton, Somerset) > Jane Winter = (d. 1602) = Sir George
Rogers of Cannington (& Porlock, Sheriff of Somerset in 1571 (d. 1582). John Sydenham of Lydiard St. Lawrence yeoman, in his Will dated 1737 left 20 shillings each to his grandchildren William, Thomas, George Richard, Charles, Richard and George Winter. Richard Winter, son-.in-law and others were executors. In 1685 Edmund Seaman of Bishops Lydiard left property to his daughter Agnes, wife of John Winter. [Major Ryland’s information]. These Winters are unidentified, probably descendants of a cadet branch of Dyrham. Odo
& Thomas "Recdekne"
(Archdekne or Archdeacon) and Thomas Wyther (1322-3) were knights of Aymer
de Valence, earl of Pembroke. Wyther
was also spelled Winter. Ralegh,
sheriff of Devon temp Henry II granted Nettlecombe estate in Somerset >
Sir William Ralegh, judge of the King's Bench, another William bishop of
Winchester in 13c. > Walter Ralegh =
d. of Sir Richard Edgecumbe > son = d. of Sir Thomas Grenville >
Walter Ralegh of Fardel, in Cornwood, Devon = (1) d.
of John Drake of Exmouth > George Ralegh > illegitimate issue.
Walter Ralegh = (2) d. of London merchant named Darrell > d. =
Hugh Snedell. Walter Ralegh =
(3) Elizabeth, d. of Sir Philip Champernowne of Modbury, widow of Otho
Gilbert of Compton Castle Torquay (parents of Humphrey, John and Adrian
Gilbert) >: 1.
Carew Ralegh. 2.
Walter Ralegh = Elizabeth "Bess",
d. of Sir Nicholas Throgmorton. Thomas
Throgmorton, retainer of Earl Beauchamp > Sir John Throgmorton of
Fladbury, Worcs. = heiress of Spineys who brought Coughton Court, Warks in
her dowry > Sir Thomas Throgmorton = d. of Robert Olney who brought
Weston Underwood, Bucks in her dowry > Sir Robert Throgmorton (d. 1519 on
pilgrimage to Holy Land) = d. of Lord Mayor of London > George
Throgmorton, Esquire of the Body to Henry VIII given leases of crown manors
of Tanworth-in-Ardern and Sheriff's Lench, Warks. opposed king's marriage
with Anne Boleyn because of his relationship with her sister, Chief Steward
of Yardley, Keeper of Clarendon Park, MP for Warwickshire (1529), led
royalist troops at Ampthill against rebels at Lincoln and Pilgrimage of
Grace, turned King's evidence against Cromwell with whom he had a dispute
over the manor of Oversley, Sheriff of Worcester (1542-3), lease of
Beauchamp's Court, Warks, Sheriff of Leicester & Warwick (1544-5),
bought manor of Tanworth = Katherine, d. of Lord Vaux of Harrowden whose
mother was widow of Sir William Parr, grandfather of Queen Catherine > 7
sons and 7 daughters >: 1.
Nicholas Throgmorton = Anne, d. of Sir Nicholas Carew of Beddington, Surrey.
Carew was Master of Horse to Henry VIII, sympathised with Poles and
Courtenays and was executed in 1539.
Nicholas Throgmorton surrendered his £100 annuity for the manors of
Paulerspury, Cosgrove, Silverstone, Tiffield, Northants., Priory of Luffield
with lands in Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire and purchased the manor of
Baddesley, near Romsey, Hants. He
was knighted by Edward IV, his cousin the Protestant Edward Underhill (also
cousin of the Winters of Huddington) christened in church of Tower Hill, had
Duke of Suffolk (Lady Jane Grey's father), the earl of Pembroke and Lady
Jane as sponsors. According to
a poem Nicholas and his 4 brothers warned Queen Mary Tudor of the plot to
place Lady Jane Grey on the throne, but opposed Sir Thomas Tresham when he
proclaimed Mary queen in Northamptonshire.
Nicholas and his brothers Clement and Anthony were pardoned.
He was made English ambassador in France by Elizabeth. 2.
Katherine Throgmorton = Robert Winter
of Huddington >: a.
Robert Winter b.
Thomas Winter, the Gunpowder Plotters. 3.
Sir Robert Throgmorton = Elizabeth Hussey, widow of Walter Hungerford >: (a)
Muriel Throgmorton = Sir Thomas Tresham (whose sister Mary = as his 2nd
wife, the 3rd lord Vaux of Harrowden) >: A.
Francis Tresham B.
Elizabeth Tresham = Lord Monteagle whose sister = Thomas Habington of
Hindlip (b)
Anne Throgmorton = Sir William Catesby > Robert Catesby. Items
within brackets [ ] are taken from Mrs Joan Simon's Tables IV (Gwyntour) XII
(Archdeacon or Ercedekne), XX (Rogers), XXI (Sydenham) and only partially
cross-check with various heraldic Visitations and other sources. There was an unidentified family (involved in litigation in the reign of Charles II) who may have been connected with Sir William or his brother George: C2
Chas I P91/55 1.6.1633: Bill
of Complaint of John Langton
senior, alderman of Bristol and John Langton junior, merchant, his son,
administrators of Derrick Popley, of the same, merchants during the minority
of Derrick Popley, his son versus
William Winter and Mary Popley, widow. Whereas
Derrick Popley, senior, in November 1629 became suitor in the way of
marriage to Mary, daughter of William
Winter. Winter promised to
give Derrick Popley £1,000 and Derrick Popley agreed to settle on Mary, his
house in Bristol called "The Red
Lodge" of the annual value of £30. Whereas
Derrick Popley possessed a tenement and lands in Pucklechurch being the
inheritance of Mr Dennys (+) of
the annual value of £60 and held for his life and the life of Edward Popley
and a tenement and lands in the same, being the inheritance of Edward Hungerford, he agreed that on receipt of the £1,000 he would
purchase land to the value of £100 per annum to be settled on himself and
his wife in tail. When
Derrick Popley came to marry Mary,
William Winter refused to assure lands as security for payment of the £,1000
and Derrick Popley was forced to accept new articles.
Whereby he was to purchase the lands of £100 annual value from William
Winter told him he could not pay the £1,000 until he had married off
his son or sold lands. Derrick
Popley grew discontented especially as William
Winter was much in debt and had drawn Derrick Popley into bonds as a
surety for debts amounting to £500 or £600.
Derrick Popley being unwilling to keep his money lying dead which he
had provided for the purchase which was about £1,300 or £1,400, therefore
resolved to employ the said moneys in merchandise.
He adventured the mony with other moneys to the seas by way of
merchandise in two ships called "Bonadventure"
and the "John Baptist"
of Bristol. Both ships were
captured by Turks and he lost all his money. On
24th June 1630 he executed a settlement of his Bristol and Pucklechurch
estate according to the terms of the marriage articles. Nothing was paid by
William Winter despite pleas by Mary who kneeled on her knees to her
father and promised to pay him £300 out of her husband's estate without his
knowledge. Derrick
Popley fell into a consumption and died about Michaelmas last.
He had £3,000 or £4,000 of desperate debts due to him. By
his Will he left his daughter Anne by his first wife (the daughter of John
Langton senior) £625 and household goods and to his daughter Mary (by
his second wife) £350 and house goods and to his wife Mary £100 and the
"Red Lodge" and lands in Pucklechurch and to his son, Derrick
plate and household goods. The
overseer of his Will refused to act and his wife refused to accept
administrator as father of Derrick Popley's first wife. Mary
Popley, widow and her brother William
Winter are charging Derrick Popley's estate with the debts for which he
stood bound to William Winter
senior. Mary Popley carried off
plate, jewels etc. of Derrick Popley in a trunk in the night after his
death. They have brought suit
in Chancery, against the plaintiff, claiming the purchase of lands of £100
annual value for the use of Mary
Popley. 22.6.1633:
Answer of William Winter Esq., to
the Bill of Complaint of John Langton - Refutes agreement of November 1629
whereby William Winter agree to
give £1,000 to Derrick Popley before 24th June next and that Derrick Popley
would purchase lands of £100 value of
William Winter and settle them on his wife before that date and if not,
he would pay Mary £2,000. It
was subsequently agreed that Derrick Popley should purchase of William Winter the manor of North Weston, Somerset worth £100 per
annum in demesne and £6.10s.0d per annum in rents and services for £2,400.
Derrick Popley would not give any security for the £1,000 owing on
the purchase money. The
defendant is willingly to pay the £1,000 due under the articles if
Mary is provided with the lands. 22.6.1633
- Answer of Mary Popley, widow to the Bill of Complaint of John Langton: As
in answer of William Winter,
Derrick Popley sustained no loss with the ships as they were both insured.
The "St. John
Baptist" was freighted and ready to go to sea when her husband
first became acquainted with her so it was unlikely that his trading
ventures had anything to do with her father's to pay the £1,000.
Derrick Popley was sickly and inclining towards consumption for many
years before he died. Denied that his estate was wasted at the time of his death.
Derrick Popley desired on his deathbed that the plaintiff should have
nothing to do with his estate. The
plaintiff persuaded the original overseers not to act and persuaded this
defendant to do the same. Lists
the household goods which she took to the "Red
Lodge" after her husband's funeral, she took no jewels other
than her own. C2 Chas. I P.80.5 22.6.1633 - Bill missing. Answer
of William Winter Esq., one of
the defendants to the Bill to Complaint of Mary Popley, widow:
It is true about the time stated in the Bill a treaty was made
between William Winter Esq.,
father of the defendant and Derrick Popley concerning the marriage of
Derrick Popley and the plaintiff. The
defendant's father agreed to pay Derrick Popley and the plaintiff £1,00
being a greater sum than his estate could admit.
Articles to this effect were signed and sealed.
It was agreed though not inserted in the articles, that the £1,000
was to be allowed to Derrick Popley out of the purchase price of lands worth
£100 per annum which the defendant's father in £4,000.
The marriage shortly after took effect. On
the death of his father, the defendant offered to agree with Derrick Popley
touching the bonds and articles. Derrick
Popley promised to accept such money as the defendants was to pay him, in
such manner as might be best for the defendant.
The defendant is willing to settle on the
terms agreed by his father. On
the death of his father, lands to the value of £150 per annum descended to
him, as executor, the defendant must pay his father's debts of £1,800, the
lands are incumbered with an annuity of £30.
The defendant has one brother and two sisters to be maintained.
He does not know of what estate Popley died possessed.
He denies combination with the other defendants, John Langton, the
father and John Langton the son to defraud the plaintiff of her jointure.
Asks that the plaintiff be paid rateably out of his father's estate. Undated.
Replication of Mary Popley, widow to the answers of William Winter Esq., John Langton senior and John Langton junior:
Derrick Popley deceased, her late husband, died possessed of a very
great personal estate sufficient to satisfy all debts and legacies with a
great overplus. Fig.
95 -
Langton, Popley & Winter John
Langton, father-in-law and
administrator to Derrick Popley >: (a)
John Langton, his son, brother-in-law and administrator to Derrick Popley (b)
a daughter = Derrick Popley = (2) Mary, d. of William Winter senior.
By (1) Anne Popley. By
(2) Derrick Popley junior William
Winter senior >: 1.
a son 2.
a daughter 3.
a daughter 4.
William Winter junior 5.
Mary Winter = Derrick Popley senior. (+)
Walter Dennys (1570), son of Walter Dennys and William Langton (1648) were
rectors of Dyrham where their coats of arms can be seen.
The manor of Dyrham was sold to George Winter by Sir Walter Dennys
whose great grandfather Gilbert had received it on marriage with the Russell
heiress. The chapel was used by
the Guild of St. Denis, founded in 1520 by Sir William Dennys and his wife
Anne, daughter of Maurice Berkeley. The Popleys, a Bristol family who were members of the Merchant Venturers Company, may have been descendants of William Popley, who with Wriothesley, were Thomas Cromwell's confidential clerks in 1532. William Popley, born about 1494 in Bristol, was probably father or kinsman of John Popley, mayor of Bristol in 1510. William acted as the king's messenger to Dr. Knight in 1518 and was Henry VIII's envoy to the Court of the Regent Margaret of Burgundy. Since 1522 (when he informed him of his intended marriage) he was acquainted with Thomas Cromwell who was Recorder of Bristol. Popley may have been an attorney (L.S. Leadam - "Select Cases in the Court of the Star Chamber"). In 1530 Popley was servant of Sir Thomas More, by 1534 he was Clerk of the Signet and did legal work for Cromwell; a number of Cromwell's letters to Lord Lisle are in Popley's writing. He purchased Iron Acton from John Dudley (originally the Lisle's lands). Everyone approached Cromwell through Popley and he persuaded the Duchess of Norfolk to return to her husband at Cromwell's instigation. He was a Gloucestershire man, owning land in that county, Somerset and Dorset, his first letter was written from Circencester and he married a Gloucestershire heiress. He sent Cromwell four Gloucester lamprey pies in 1534; these consisted of stewed lampreys covered with a thick pie crust. The Gloucester Royal Pie with gilded ornaments used to be sent to the sovereign at Christmas and was probably the type which killed king Henry I who is reported to have died of "a surfeit of lampreys" on 1.11.1135. John Popley and John Walsshe, merchants, John Walsh, Edward Gibbes, John Graunt, Walter Cooke and Richard Bray, mariner were named in a deed dated 14.3.1493 granting a plot of land 203 ft x 60 ft in St. Stephen's parish in Bristol or Avon Marsh, adjoining a tower on the Town Wall (now site of library), to John Dreux, mayor (1496), 12 merchants and 12 mariners. Amongst the witnesses to the deed were Robert Strange and William Spenser; Robert Strange was mayor in 1500 (xvith year Henry 7) when John Popley was a burgess. The Guild of Bristol Mariners (1446-6) erected a chapel to St. Clement (patron of sailors) and St. George (patron of England) as well as alms houses on this land. The present Merchants Hall and the alms houses are on this site. On 26.8.1560 Robert Cooke, Clarenceaux King of Arms granted a coat of arms to the Bristol Merchants Company being "barry of 8 argent and azure, a flying green dragon on a gold band, a gold lion passant on a chief gules between two besants" supported by a mermaid and satyr. In 1610 the Merchant Venturers Company of Bristol received a patent to colonise Newfoundland backed by Chief Justice Popham (whose family was connected with the Winters of Clapton-in-Gordano), Recorder of Bristol in 1569, Bacon and John Langton. In 1617-8 Bristol Hope in Newfoundland was purchased by the Company and in 1606 Ferdinando Gorges (relative of the Smyths of Ashton Court and the Winters of Clapton-in-Gordano), petitioned for settlement in Virginia and in 1620 for exclusive rights to fish for Bristol Merchants from the St. Lawrence river to Philadelphia (Puritans excluded); many Bristolians emigrated to Massachusetts and Rhode Island. On 6.7.1618 and 17.11.1618 John Langton was a member of the Company with John Doughtie, William Pitt (mayor and master), Edward Coxe, Humphrey Hooker, George White and Thomas Davies. John Langton was Warden of the Bristol Merchant Venturers Company in 1613, Treasurer in 1615 and 1639 and Master in 1620. John Langton junior was Warden in 1630/1, Thomas Langton Warden in 1660 and Master in 1664. Derrick Popley was Warden in 1624 and in 1624-6 illegally bought goods from strangers including 100 pipes of Malaga wine and 90 barrels of sun raisins from Spain against the Society's regulations. John Langton junior and Derrick Popley paid £10 and £6 of ship money during the reign of Charles I. In the reign of the Stuarts, the Bristol Channel was plagued by Turkish and Algerine pirates, especially in July when the Bristol Fair was in progress and ships laden with merchandise sailed up the Channel, their cargoes were seized and their crews were carried off as slaves. The "Bonadventure" and the "John Baptist" of Bristol belonging to William Winter of the Red Lodge were captured by Turks and he lost all his money. John Winter who was captured and carried away to Allacorchia, Turkey, had to be ransomed. During the Civil War when Bristol was captured by Prince Rupert of the Rhine, John Langton was amongst those who paid £200 to prevent the troops from plundering the city but taxes were levied. In compensation Charles I in 1643 granted the Company the right to trade with Russia, Turkey, Denmark and the Hansa towns. The Bristol Venturers had an on-going feud with the London Companies as the Stuarts had granted monopolies to London and Court favourites. Sir William's brother George Winter I of Dyrham, married Anne, daughter of Richard Brayne, sister and co-heiress of Robert Brayne of Bristol. Their tomb can be seen at chapel of Dyrham House (now National Trust property). Portraits of George, his descendant Mary Winter and her husband William Blathwayte hang in the house. George's children are shown kneeling on his the tomb - they were Thomisin, Robert (supposed to have been Robert Winterhey killed by the Patagonians in the Straits of Magellen but he may have been of a different family), Benedict slain in 1588 by the Spaniards, Mary, wife of Anselm Huntley, William of Clapton Court, Clapton-in-Gordano, Somerset who married the heiress of the family of Arthur. The tomb of one of their young sons, Edward Winter can be seen in the chapel of Clapton Court, Elizabeth who married Ferdinando Ivie, Bridget wife of George Wirral, Margaret, wife of Thomas Weeks, Anne, wife of George Price and the heir John Winter (vice-admiral to Francis Drake on his voyage to the Magellan Straits) who married Mary, daughter of William Brounker, Brunker or Brounkard, knight, of Wiltshire. John Winter was accused of piracy. Benedict's descendants settled in Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Armagh and North Carolina. Fig.
96
- Winter of Dyrham, Buckinghamshie, Berkshire, Armagh and North Carolina. George
Winter = Anne Brayne > John Winter = Mary Brunkard > Benedict Winter =
Alice Burnam >: 1.
Thomas Winter (b. 1627) at Long Crendon, Bucks. 2.
Richard Winter (b. 1629) "
"
" "
= Joan. 3.
Joan Winter (b. 1637) "
"
"
" 4.
William Winter (b. 1637) "
"
" "
5.
Alice Winter (b. 1641). "
"
" "
Richard
Winter = Joan about 1651 in Upton-cum-Chalsey, Bucks >: 1.
Joan Winter (b. 1652) = in 1669 John Wigington 2.
William Winter (b. 1654) = Hester (?) 3.
Richard Winter (b. 1655) = Joan. 4.
Thomas (.b. 1658) = Hester (?) William
& Hester Winter > 1.
Mary Winter (b. 1685) 2.
Richard Winter (b. 1687 3.
John Winter (b. 1688) at E. Yarston, Berks. 4.
Robert Winter (.b. 1689) 5.
William Winter (b. 1690) E. Yarston., Bucks. 6.
Sarah Winter (b. 1694) "
"
" 7.
Joseph Winter (b. 1696) " "
" 8-
Charles Winter (b. 1702) " "
" 9.
Francis Winter (b. 1709) " "
" Charles
Winter = Elizabeth (?) about 1722 at Upton cum Chalsey, Bucks. > 1.
William Winter (b. 1723) at Upton cum Chalsey, Bucks. 2.
Mary Winter (b. 1725)
" "
" "
" 3.
Francis Winter (.b. 1734) "
"
" "
" 4.
Edward Winter (b 1736 "
"
" "
" buried North Carolina, USA 5.
George Winter (b. 1734) "
"
" "
" Edward
Winter = Mary and moved to Armagh, Ireland > 1.
Elizabeth Winter (b. 1768) Ireland = 1788 John Wilson. 2.
Francis Robert Winter (b. 1770, Ireland, bur. N. Carolina 1845) = 1788
Margaret Mitchell 3.
Mary Jane Winter (b. 1770) "
" =
1795 James Samuel Lackey. 4.
John William Winter (b. 1723) "
" =
Mary (?) 5.
Samuel Edward Winter (b. 1776) "
" Francis
Robert Winter = Margaret Mitchell >: 1.
Margaret Mitchell Winter (b. 1770, d. 1846 N. Carolina). 2.
John Mitchell Winter (b. 1789 N. Carolina, d. 1852 Alabama). 3.
John William Winter (.b. 1789 N. Carolina, d. 184-?, Alabama). 4.
Father of John H. Winter (b. 1791, N.Carolina). 5.
Mary Winter (b. 1794, N.Carolina). 6.
Benjamin Winter (b. 1797, N. Carolina). 7.
Jane Winter (b. 1799 N. Carolina) 8.
Elizabeth Winter (b. 1801, N. Carolina). 9.
Samuel Winter (b. 1804, N. Carolina). 10.
Robert Winter (b. 1811, N.Carolina). 11.
MargaretWinter (b. 1813 N. Carolina). (supplied
by John H. Winter, N. Carolina). There is a brass of at Bath Abbey, Somerset of Sir George Ivy (1693) of West Kington, Wiltshire, knight in armour and his wife Susanna, youngest daughter of Laurence Hyde of Westhatch Wiltshire, Esq., and sister of Sir Nicholas Hyde, knight, late Chief Justice of the King's Bench with his 4 sons. Thomas Hyde married Lettes, daughter & coheiress of Sir Martin Colpepper of Oxon, knight, Palmer Hyde (in armour) "slaine in ye Venetian warr in ye Ile of Corffue", George Hyde, clerk married Elizabeth, daughter of William Winter of Somerset Esq., Robert Hyde (in armour) "died in ye Netherlands at ye seige of Bredah", Avice Hyde married Foulke Hungerford of the Leah, Wiltshire, Barbara Hyde married Thomas Wall of Gerimboye, Limerick, gent. They are all shown on a rectangular plaque, kneeling, with an inscription and 2 shields on the wall. Anne, daughter of Sir Edward Hyde and wife of James II was related to this family. John Winter's eldest son and heir George Winter II married first Elizabeth, daughter of Thomas Nowell of Dorset and secondly Mary, daughter of Edward Rogers of Cannington, Somerset. They had a daughter Elizabeth and a son John (b. 1622) who married Frances, daughter of Thomas Gerard of Trent, Somerset. Frances's sister was wife of Colonel Fairfax, the Cavalier. George had two sons George Winter III (d. 1672) and John Winter II (d. 1685) and a daughter Mary who in 1686 married William Blathwayte, Secretary of State to Queen Anne, Clerk of the P:rivy Council to Charles I, James II and William III and Commissioner of Trades and Plantations. Mary died in 1689 five years after her marriage and William Blathwayte demolished the old Elizabeth manor house of the Winters to build the present Dyrham House. He died in 1717 and their children, the Blathwayte-Winters, inherited Dyrham and their descendants gave it to the National Trust.. The following court case refers to this family: C2
James I. - I.C. 5.50 - 24.10.1613 Bill of Complaint of Edward Chadwell of Chipping Norton, Esq., only son of Michael Chadwell dec'd and Anne Chadwell and Joyce Chadwell, daughters of Edward Chadwell versus George Wirral (extract only). George the son, after the death of his father, finding the recognisance unsatisfied and albeit there was only £175 unpaid yet extended the lands of the plaintiff, Edward Chadwell and having the same delivered to him in extent, would not be persuaded to depart with the possession thereof, until the plaintiff agreed to pay him £420 in full satisfaction and in discharge of a debt to one Winter the plaintiff stood bounden with George the father. |