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Chapter VIII/6 - Lydney

South Mills of Holwells manor, Blunham with Moggerhanger & Chalton, Bedfordshire was alienated in 1469 by George Gascoigne and his wife Elizabeth to John Manningham who held it till 1484 when it was transferred to John Mordaunt and John Vynter.

 

A mill in Astwick alias John de Johns, Astwick Biggleswade Hundred of Bedfordshire, was held in in 1386 by Sir John Vynter, parson of Clothall probably the same John Vynter (1404) whose brass is at Clothall showing him in mass vestments without a stole.

 

Alternatively Joan may have been the daughter of Peter Larke, an inn-keeper of Thetford.  His son Thomas Larke (d. July 1530) became Wolsey's confessor and the King's chaplain.  He was given a canonry of St. Stephen's on 10.11.1511 and became Master of Trinity Hall, Cambridge in 1520-5.

 

The living of Winwick was held on 21.6.1515 by Thomas Larke, Wolsey's chaplain, followed by Wolsey's son, Thomas Winter in 1525, who was presented to it by the King, after which it went to Thomas Boleyn and Thomas Stanley.  It was then restored to Thomas Larke in 1529, followed by William Boleyn and Thomas Winter.

 

Wolsey's chaplain may have had some connection with Thomas Larke, vinteyner or captain of a troop of 20 soldiers and Lord Lisle's secretary.  Larke, John and Leonard Smyth and William Gonson, Clerk of the King's Ships were residents of Calais in 1539 when Wolsey was chaplain there under the Commander of Calais, Admiral Arthur Plantagenet, Lord Lisle (Edward IV's illegitimate son by Elizabeth, relative of Thomas Lucy of Charlecote).

 

Peter Larke's other sons were William Larke, a draper and Peter, employed by John Kite, archbishop of Armagh (Wolsey's friend) and afterwards by the Bishop of Winchester, Stephen Gardiner (Wolsey's protégé and secretary) .

 

Joan Lark or Winter, later wife of George Legh or Lee of Adlington, Cheshire, lived in a manor house by the Thames near Thames Ditton and Hampton which was later turned into the Swan Inn where Wolsey carved his initials on the mantlepiece of the fireplace.

 

Wolsey had a son by Joan Lark called Thomas Winter and a daughter Dorothy Winter (born Michaelmas 1512) by Joan Clansey.  Why Wolsey gave his children the surname Winter is a mystery unless it was because Thomas Larke was a vintener or captain of 20 men.  Thomas was called Wolsey's nephew, usually an euphemism for an illegitimate son but if he was actually the Cardinal's nephew son, this may mean Wolsey's sister married a Winter.  Perhaps Joan married a Larke, was the Cardinal's sister and had a son by a Winter.  The Cardinal gave her a dowry when she married George Legh or Lee of Adlington, Cheshire.

 

A poor kinswoman of Wolsey's married his servant John Oxenherd, a seaman who carried the Cardinal's goods by sea to the north in April 1530.  She was threatened with eviction by Thomas More and his son-in-law Daunce.

 

There was a place called Oxendon near Castlecombe where land called Wynternes was in dispute and Roger Wynter was sent for.  A deed of composition was drawn up where by William Touchett, lord of Oxendon "confirmed unto John de Oxendone called "le Eyre" and his heirs, common of pasture for all his beasts in all his fallowland and stubbles within his manor of Oxendone and whereby the said John in consideration whereof, released all his right to common of pasture in Wythycomnbe and Wynternes dated at Pynmere 25.4.1311".

 

Thomas Wolsey's father was said to have been a butcher but he was a prosperous merchant who owned an abbatoir and a house in Silent Street, Ipswich.

 

According to Maurice Birchinshaw, Thomas Winter's tutor, his pupil wanted to evade priest's order and marry the heiress of Henry Bourchier, 2nd earl of Essex.  She later married Queen Catherine Parr's brother, William Parr, Marquis of Northampton.

 

Wolsey had been family chaplain and protégé of Sir Richard Nanfan or Melifant of Birtsmorton Court, in Worcestershire near the manors of Huddington and Pirton both of which had belonged to the Winters.

 

According to John Stow in his "Survey of London" Sir Thomas Malifant or Nanfant, Baron of Winnow, Lord St. George in Glamorgan and lord Ockenton & Pile in the county of Pembroke, Dame Margaret his wife, daughter of Thomas Astley Esquire with Edmund and Henry his children were buried at St. Giles without Cripplegate in the London Ward of Faringdon Extra or without.

 

Birtsmorton Court, the king's gift to Sir Richard's father John Nanfan, is approximately 8 miles from Huddington Court, home of the Winters since 1483 who also owned Pirton Court about 4 miles from Huddington and approximately the same distance from Birtsmorton.  Wolsey was Nanfan's chaplain and tutor to his son, serving him so well that Sir Richard gave him the post of Treasurer of Calais.  It was through Nanfan that Wolsey was introduced to court and held office under Henry VIII.  He was promoted to the King's service and made his chaplain.

 

Sir Richard Nanfan was Deputy and Treasurer of Calais which had been closely connected to the Lancasterian cause, Worcestershire, Warwickshire and Gloucestershire.  Sir Richard was Henry VIII's Squire and introduced Wolsey (who became Comptroller of Calais) to the king.

 

Sir Gilbert Talbot of Grafton was Deputy of Calais in 1511 and Sir Maurice Berkeley of Dyrham lieutenant of Calais in 1523.

 

Gilbert Talbot (d. 22.10.1542) was son of Sir Gilbert Talbot by Elizabeth Greystock and grandson of John Talbot, 2nd earl of Shrewsbury.  He married first Anne, daughter and co-heiress of William Paston and secondly Elizabeth, widow of William Winter of Cassy's Farm, Elmbridge, Worcestershire but had legitimate issue only by his first wife.  According to some records he had natural children by Elizabeth before his marriage and in his Will dated 22.10.1542 bequeathed to his wife Elizabeth "all my jewels and household goods and this half-year's rent of the lands that are her jointure by her late husband William Winter".  His son Walter Talbot, founder of Elmbridge in Worcestershire, married Elizabeth, daughter of Roger Winter of Huddington and his wife Elizabeth Hungerford.

 

Several families connected with Calais also had links with Breconshire, Worcestershire, Warwickshire and Gloucestershire.  The family of Beauchamp were Earls of Warwick and Worcester.  John and Roger Beauchamp, Earls of Warwick were Deputies of Calais in the reign of Edward III, John Devereaux (17th century members of this family are buried in the church of Leigh, in Worcestershire, another held Newent in Gloucestershire) and William Beauchamp in the reign of Richard II, Richard Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick during the reign of Henry V, John Plantagenet, Earl of Bedford under whom John Winter's ancestor John of Castell Mayett had served in France (whose second wife Jacquetta de St. Pol de Luxembourg, Duchess of Bedford, was tenant of Lydney), Richard Beauchamp, Humphrey, Duke of Stafford and Buckingham, Lord of Brecon and Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick during the reign of Henry VI and Edward IV.

 

So both Wolsey and Calais had links with this ancient Worcestershire family and the Cardinal named his two illegitimate children, Thomas and Dorothy Winter.  His daughter became a nun at Shaftesbury and died there.

 

Thomas Winter was either the Cardinal's son or perhaps a nephew for his tutor Volusemus described him as the son of the Cardinal's brother.  Wolsey himself called Thomas his nephew (a common euphemism for illegitimate children of priests) and referred to him as "my poor scholar".  Lupset writing to Erasmus from Padua on 23.8.1525 said Wynter was not less dear to Wolsey than if he had been his own father "quam si ex eius paternitate natus esset".  Frances Volusemus or Wilson said Thomas Winter had a dispensation "super defectu natalium" (because of the irregularity of his birth).

 

Thomas Winter's date of birth is not known but he was studying in Louvain before November 1519 so he must have been born early in the century.  According to some sources he was incorrectly said to have held a pension called a corrody at Evesham Monastery, Worcestershire in 1511 & 1546 but by a strange coincidence this was held by Thomas, brother of Roger Winter of Huddington.

 

The Pardon Roll dated 14.11.1509-10, 1st Henry VIII mentions Roger Wynter of Hodyngton & Cokesay, Worcestershire Esquire, brother and heir of Thomas Wynter and son and heir of Robert.  Thomas Wynter and William Dyngley had a grant in survivorship of a corrody in the monastery of Evesham on resignation of the same by Thomas Wynter (Westminster, 13th February, 3rd Henry VIII, Canterbury 5th April PS).

 

The Cardinal loved his son and showered him with church honours.  He received the Deanery of Wells in 1526 and was granted a coat of arms which resembled his father's (which the Cardinal had forced Sir Amyas Paulet to put up on Temple Gate) being "sable, on a cross engrailed argent, a lion passant gules between 4 leopards faces azure; on a chief or, a rose of the third, barbed vert, seeded of the fifth, between two Cornish choughs proper".  A dispensation was sought for Thomas Winter before he could become a priest - he had not become one as late as 1534 neither had he taken deacon's orders.

 

Between 1522 and 1528 Thomas Winter received 20 ecclesiastical positions, the greater part of which he resigned in 1529 after his father's fall from power.  Amongst them were Milton Prebend, Lincoln, Palishall, Overhall, Norwell Prebend in Southwell, Fridaythorpe which he resigned for Strenshall (both in York), the Archdeaconry of West Riding of Yorkshire, the Chancellorship of Sarum, of Norfolk and Richmond, the Deanery of Wells, St. Peter's Prebend in Beverley, Lytton Prebend, Bedwin, Sarum, the Provostry of Beverley, St. Stephen's Prebend, Westminster, the Rectories of Rugby, St. Matthias, Ipswich, Wynwyck, the Archdeaconry of Suffolk, the Wardenships of Sherbone Hospital and St. Leonard's Hospital, York - his father also asked for the Deanery of Lincoln for him.

 

The Cardinal saw to it that his son was well educated - his letters were described as models of ease, eleganced and pure Latinity and his studious habits were praised.  He was sent to the Universities of Louvain, Padua, Ferrara, Poissy and Paris.  Wolsey must have asked his friends and acquaintances who went abroad to let him know of his son's progress because Bishop Gardiner, Lupset, Clerk and Russell wrote that young Thomas had a great household and was spending a great deal of money but was treated with distinction because of his connection with the Cardinal.  His son's extravagance and lack of means was one of the charges brought against the Cardinal after his fall from grace "his son Winter and his fellows, the 5 open pedigrees and acts of the great treasure and charges and the promotions and ordinary rents by him under colours thereof yearly assembled and gathered and converted to his own use thereby."

 

Thomas Winter returned to England after his father died and lost many of his preferments but became chaplain to Henry VIII.  Winter was succeeded at Wynwyck as prebend of Strenshall in Yorkshire by William Boleyn, kinsman of Queen Anne.  The living of Winwick was held on 21.6.1515 by Thomas Lark, Wolsey's chaplain, followed by Wolsey's son, Thomas Winter in 1525, who was presented by the King, after which it went to Thomas Boleyn and Thomas Stanley.  It was then restored to Thomas Lark in 1529, followed by William Boleyn and Thomas Winter.

 

In 1532 Thomas Winter obtained a licence to remain abroad and returned to Padua where he remained until 1534.  He collated in 1537, was installed the same year, obtaining the Archdeaconry of Cornwall in 1548.

 

His sister Dorothy received a pension after the Dissolution of Shaftesbury monastery in 1640 and died there in about 1553.  Thomas Winter may have held the manor of Saunderton in Buckinghamshire as a tenant at the Dissolution of the Abbeys in 1537.

 

Thomas Winter is best known for being the catalyst of the Western or Prayerbook Rebellion (one of a series against the Reformation) which occurred during the reign of Henry VII's young son Edward VI, when the English Book of Common Prayer, written by Thomas Cranmer, Archbishop of Canterbury, was first published.

 

After Wolsey's fall, Thomas Winter had written to Cromwell begging for assistance and was given a few benefices and money.

 

The actions of Thomas Winter and William Body had an important effect on the Cornish rising.  In 1537, Thomas Winter had become Archdeacon of Cornwall and met Body, a member of the household of Thomas Cromwell, Master of the Jewel House in 1532.  Body helped Cromwell during the Dissolution of the Abbeys and after Cromwell's fall, worked for Henry VIII.

 

In 1536 he was sent to Ireland as a spy for the King.  His letter of credence was sent by Cromwell to Lord Leonard Grey, Lord Deputy of Ireland and Body's instructions, in the handwriting of Thomas Wriothesley, Earl of Southampton, stated that the King had spent £40,000 in suppressing the Geraldine rebellion.  Body quarrelled with Grey who was beheaded at Tower Green a few months later.

 

Body had been once accused of having stolen articles entrusted to him.  On the 9th November that year, Winter executed a pair of indentures whereby he Thomas Winter, clerk and Archdeacon of Cornwall granted the Archdeaconry and lands to William Body, as well as the Prebend of Glashery or Penryn and the priory of St. Jones in Helston.  In return Body allowed Winter £30 per annum and paid him £150 forthwith, also discharging a bond to a Mercer Grigg of London to whom Winter stood bound as well as to Fulk ap Powell or ap Howell of Lancaster, the King's Herald of Arms.  Body also gave Winter clothes and money.  Thomas Winter was at least 30 years by then and was summoned to Penryn on 14.2.1540 for "evil living."

 

Body discovered that the indenture had been altered by Peter Ford, a partisan of Winter and the Bishop.  He obtained a letter from the King at Hampton Court on 6.2.1541 addressed to the Bishop of Exeter to say that Thomas Winter had leased him the Archdeaconry.

 

Winter upon hearing that this sale was condemned in the Episcopal Court, authorised John Harrys alias Rowden and George Stapleton to hold the Archdeaconry.  Winter was summoned by John Croft and Thomas Brerewood who had him charged with farming out the Archdeaconry.

 

On 21.4.1541, Body arrived and caused a disturbance by drawing his dagger and was thrown out but the authorities upheld his claim..

 

Thomas Brerewood, a Clerk and Professor of ecclesiastical law and John Croft were both sent to the Marshalsea Prison in 1543-4, Croft was released by Body but Brerewood died in prison.

 

This case was important because it brought the Bishop of Exeter's officials into the grasp of the Statute of Praemunire which stated that the Pope had no authority in England.

 

In 1547 Body returned to the West Country as a Commissioner connected with the removal of church ceremonial objects - the hostile demonstrations against him on the 1st of September of that year were tumultuous.

 

He returned as an iconoclast as far afield as Crade and Gwennap where some years later, Sir Lionel Ducket and John Winter's son Sir William Winter (who had formed the London Merchants' Company) became interested in Cornish tin mines and mines in South Wales and Cumberland.  They had smelting works in Keswick and Neath where the Cornish ore was sent.  John Winter had a son Raffe who settled in Cornwall, probably ancester of the Winters of Kellyfrith-in-Kea (who bore the Winter arms "sable, a fesse ermine") and of Gwennap listed as recusants in 1606 after the Gunpowder Plot in which their cousins of Huddington were involved, another branch of the family settled in St. Merryn.

 

Body was met by small groups of rebels and was killed by William Kilter and Pascho Trevian in Helston sat the beginning of 1549.  The rebellion was brutally suppressed but strangely the names of several rebels from Gwennap were erased from the bill of trial.

 

Thomas Winter was imprisoned for debt and died about 1546.

THE FAIR PALACE

 

According to some sources John Winter of Lydney came from Brecon as there is a John Winter named in a cartulary of Brecon Cathedral but he may have been of another branch.

 

The lordship of Brecon descended eventually to the Staffords, dukes of Buckingham and Gloucester.

 

Fig 81 - Stafford:

 

Hugh de Calvacamp temp William Longsword, duke of Normandy > Ralph, lord of Tosni, brother of Hugh, Archbishop of Rouen (d.989-90) >: grandson Roger de Tony (d.c.1039) >:

a. Ralph's great grandson Ralph de Tony (d.c.1102) at Hastings (1066).

b. Robert of Stafford (d.c. 1088) >: great grand daughter Millicent = Hervy Bagot who

    assumed the name of de Stafford > Dukes of Buckingham & Stafford, lords of Brecon

c. Nigel de Stafford (1086), held Drakelow and other Derbyshire manors

 

A relative Robert de Tony, lord of Belvoir (1086) >:

1. grand daughter Cecily = William Daubeny the Breton.

2. her sister Maud = William d'Aubigny, earl of Arundel.

 

Fig. 82 - Lordship and Honour of Brecon:

 

Hamo Dentatus, earl of Corbeil > Hamon Dapifer > Robert fitzHamon = Sybil, d. of Roger Montgomery, earl of Shrewsbury > Mabel (d. 1157) sister of Isabella, wife of King John = Robert of Caen, Consul of Gloucester (d. 31.10.1147), illegitimate son of Henry I > William (d. 23.11.1173) = Hawise, d. of Robert, earl of Leicester > Robert > Walter, Constable of England  = Emma, d. of Drue or Drogo de Baladun, Lord of Abergavenny > Milo fitzWalter, earl of Hereford killed when hunting in the Forest of Dean on 24.12.1143 = Sybil, d. of Bernard Newmarch or Neufmarche, Lord of Brecon > Bertha 2nd daughter whose brother William Newmarch held Dyrham = William de Braiose, lord of Bramber in Sussex, Bramley in Surrey Falaise in Normandy, Castellan of Brecon & Abergavenny, witnessed murder of Prince Arthur of Brittany > William de Braiose (d. 1211) at Corbeil = Matilda de St. Valery > daughter = Humphrey de Bohun, earl of Hereford, lord of Brecon (captured at Evesham and died of his wounds in October 1275) who, with his father, supported Simon de Montfort > William de Bohun, earl of Northampton, lord of Brecon = Elizabeth, d. of Bartholomew Badlesmere junior, lord of Castlecombe >:

a. Mary de Bohun = Henry IV, lord of Brecon

b. Eleanor de Bohun = Thomas Plantagenet of Woodstock, Duke of Gloucester &

    Buckingham, son of Edward III > Anne Plantagenet = Ralph Stafford > Humphrey

    Stafford, 1st Duke of Buckingham (predeceased his father) = Margaret Beaufort, d. of

    Edmund, earl of Somerset (his cousin Henry Stafford married Margaret Beaufort, d. of

    John, duke of Somerset, widow of Edmund Tudor by whom she had Henry VII) >:

    Humphrey Stafford (d. 1460), 2nd Duke of Buckingham = Anne Neville, d. of the earl of

    Westmorland >:  Humphrey Stafford (d. executed 1483), 3rd Duke of Buckingham =

    Catherine Woodville, widow of Jasper Tudor and sister of Queen Elizabeth Woodville >

    Edmund Stafford (executed 1521) = Elizabeth, d. of Henry Percy, earl of

    Northumberland > Henry Stafford = Ursula, d. of Richard Pole & Margaret Plantagenet,

    Duchess of Salisbury.

 

Thomas of Woodstock was murdered at Calais in 1397 on the orders of his nephew Richard II when Thomas Mowbray was constable there.  Mowbray was later accused of the Duke's death and executed.  Thomas of Woodstock left as his heirs Humphrey Plantagenet, earl of Buckingham whose heiress was his sister Anne Plantagenet, wife of Edmund Stafford, earl of Stafford (d. 1403).  She married as her second husband William Bourchier, Count of Eu and Earl of Essex.

 

Thomas Ellingbridge or Elmbridge (who held lands in Surrey and Worcester) was in the household of the Lancastrian John Morton, Bishop of Ely and Canterbury.  Morton was sent to Brecon as the Yorkist Duke of Buckingham's prisoner and plotted against him.  The Duke's cousin, Henry Stafford, was second husband of Margaret Beaufort, widow of Jasper Tudor and mother of Henry VII - both she and Morton were involved in the rebellion against Richard III after which the Duke of Buckingham was executed.  Margaret's third husband was Thomas Stanley, 1st earl of Derby who defected to Henry VII on Bosworth Field.

 

The Winters (who also spelled their name as Wynter) appear to have settled in Brecon in the reign of Henry VIII when Benedict Winter appears among the burgesses in a Charter of the Borough issued by the first Stafford Duke of Buckingham in 1448.

 

In the same year, Thomas Wintershull of Surrey also held land under the Duke of Buckingham - he may have been the same Thomas Wintershull who held land in Worcester.  In 1460/1 John Berningham held a fee of the duke of Buckingham - he may have been John Winter (d. 1495), lord of Barningham, Norfolk who married Alice Turville or Turtvile, Barningham is spelled Berningham on his tombstone in the church.

 

Fig. 83 - Winter of Brecon

 

Walter Wynter went into Dyfed (Pembroke) in 1093 with Arnulf Montgomery de Belleme = Gwnellian, d. of Gwilym ap Aedan ap Blegored of Castell Gwynn > William Wynter = daughter of William fitzBaldwin of Rhyd y-gors > David Winter = Elizabeth, daughter of Sir William Perrott of Jestington (Eastington) and Scotsbridge, Pembrokeshire.  The Pembrokeshire family may have had some connection with William Perrott and his son John who held Wollaston, Worcestershire in 1442-3.  This manor passed to Roger Perrott then to his son William and his grandson Humphrey.  Their arms were "gules, 3 pears or" and "a chief argent with a demi-lion sable therein" >:

 

(a) Morgan Winter of Rhyd-y-gors > Jaon Winter = David ap Gronw-goch of Llangain >

     Lloyds of Kingwyn

(b) Owen Winter > Winters of Wych, Huddington, Lydney, Durham, Aldeburgh, Meath &

     Surrey > Jenkin Winter = Angharad, d. of Philip Vychan (Vaughan) of Edwinsford >

     David Winter = Jane, d. of Sir John Morgan, knight >:

     1. Walter Winter = d. of Walter Gam

     2. Gwenllian Winter = Owen-ap-Meredith-ap-Pwlldufach

     3. OR: Owen Winter = Elizabeth, d. of David Meuric of Cilcwm > William Winter =

         Margaret, d. of Philip Jordan > Jenkin Winter, lord of Menorgain > Elizabeth Winter

         = (1) Richard Read = (2) Fisher > Fisher alias Winter > William Winter alias Fisher

         >:

         A.. Fisher alias Winter

         B. Lewis Winter of the Forest of Dean = Earsley

     4. Morris Winter = d. of Sir Peter Barrett, lord of Pendyne > William Winter = Jennet, d.

         of Griffith-ap-Cadwgan of Escirgaib > Jenkin Winter of Pentre Ritsiart, Pembs = Agnes

         Philips > Walter Winter = Elizabeth, d. of Jenkin-ap-Rhys > Philip Winter of Castel

         Garthen > Griffith = d. of Richard Fisher of Cwmmerdin > William of Laugherne = d. of

         David-ap-Howell Morgan ddu of Langadock >:

         a. Andrew Winter, sheriff of Brecon (1553), bailiff under last Stafford, duke of

             Buckingham = Cissil, d. of Mathew Walter (see Fig. B)

         b. Lewis Winter of Cantref, MD = Boulcott of Brecon > John Winter, bailiff of Brecon

            (1589) = d. of Howell David Prosser of Gaer >:

             (1) William Winter, bailiff of Brecon (1614) = Margaret, d. of Philip Jones

                  of Edwinsford (see Fig. D)

             (2) Daniel Winter (d. 1668 = Esther, d. of William (see Fig C)

             (3) Lewis Winter of Tyrrickard = Jane, d. of Richard Greene > Richard

                  Winter of London, gent (1634) = Alice, d. of Robert Woodroofe of

                  Copthall, Suffolk >:

                  a. Richard Winter, son & heir

                  b. John Winter, 2nd son

                  c. Charles Winter, 3rd son

                  d. Margaret Winter

                  e. Elizabeth Winter

Fig. B

 

Andrew Winter  =Cissil Walter >:

(a) Margaret Winter = Roger Vaughan of Cathedine

(b) Walter, barrister (RC) = Margaret, d. of John Walwyn, King's Receiver, Brecon by his

     wife, Gwladius, d. of Gwilym Morgan of Trallong.  She brought Llanfihangel tal-y-llyn &

     Ystragylais >:

     1. Edward Winter > Richard Winter (d. 1668) of Llangoed Castle > Walter Winter

        (d. 1673) > Walter Winter

     2. William Winter of Llanfihangel-tal-y-llyn = Blanche, d. of Anthony Drew of

        Herefordshire >:

       A. Joan Winter

       B. Edward Winter = Jane, d. of John Edwards of Chirk >:

          (1) John Winter = Jane, d of Nicholas Lewis of Viven (1649)

          (2) Edward Winter of Llanfihangel (d. 1669)

(c) William Winter of Llanfihangel RC (d. 1696) = Eleanor, d. of

     Walter James of Treivor, Monmouthshire >:

      A. Eleanor Winter

      B. Mary Winter

      C. Margaret Winter

      D. Jane Winter = Thomas Levings

      E. Anne Winter = Rev. Owen Morgan of Llanfihangel-nant-Bran,

          rector of Llanfihangel-tal-y-llyn

      F. Edward Winter of Tredustan (1658-1737) = Anne, d. of

         Thomas Williams of Talgarth by his wife Anne de la Hay of

          Urishay, Herefordshire > Robert Winter (1728-1803 sp) of the Pipe Office, London

     G. Walter Winter of Llangoed = Anne Lewis of Glyn >:

          a. Henry Winter (1695-1746) = Mary (d. 1735) both bur.

             Crickadarn >:

             1. Anne Winter

             2. Elizabeth Winter

             3. Margaret Winter

             4. Henry Winter (1726-1742) bur. Crickdarn

          b. Richard Winter (1693-1729), vicar of Boughrood, bur. Llyswen, lease of Llangoed

              expired with him > Richard Winter of Masgawr, Crickadarn >

              (a) Richard Winter (1781-1846) bur. Crickadarn

              (b) Henry Winter (1775-93) bur. Crickdarn

 

Fig. C

 

Daniel Winter = Esther Berkeley >:

(a) Anne Winter = Lewis Jones of Brecon

(b) Daniel Winter of Cefyn-y-vedw = Jennet Edwards > William Winter (d. 1708), bailiff

     of Brecon 1695 = Anne > Daniel Winter of Brecon (1724) = Maria > Daniel Winter of

     Brecon (1712-41) = Esther (obsp 1741)

(c) William Winter of Brecon, apothecary = Mary d. of Jonathan Cook of Shropshire >

     Daniel Winter MD (d. 1725) = Anna (d. 1726), d. of Richard James of Llanbered,

     Llanigon >:

     1. Edward Winter (b. 1710)

     2. Elizabeth Winter (b. 1711)

     3. James Winter

     4. John Winter, clerk = Mary Howells

     5. William Winter (b. 1703), sheriff in 1721 = Mary, (1710-49), d. of Thomas Jones of

         Tredustan >:

         A. Thomas Winter (obsp)

         B. John Winter (d. 1779) = Anne (sp)

         C. Mary Winter (b. 1734) = Vernon

         D. Daniel Winter (1735-82) sp

         E. James Winter = Elinor Henrietta _____? (1737-1802) >:

             (1) Mary Winter = Richardson

             (2) Agnes Winter = Beynon

             (3) James Winter = Henrietta Parkin >:

                  a. Robert Winter

                  b. Anna Winter

                  c. Maria Winter

          F. Rev. William Winter of Penderyn = Jane Wheeler >:

              (a) Jane Winter (d. 1760) = (1) George Williams, barrister = (2) Richard Gough

                   Awbrey

              (b) Robert Winter (1759-1806), rector of Penderyn (1793) = Anne, d. of Thomas

                   Hughes Philips of Pentywall>:

                   (1) Anne Winter

                   (2) William Winter (b. 1803)

                   (3) Robert Winter (1794-1831) held licence to living of Llanfihangel-tal-y-llyn

              (c) Rev. William Winter (1739-92) = Elizabeth Bold (1768-1847) >:

                   1. Hugh Winter (b. 1805 posthumously)

                   2. William Winter (1796-1871 sp)

                   3. Jane Winter(1801-38)

                   4. Elizabeth Winter (1796-1870) = Gabriel Myddleton Powell of Peterstone

                       Court, obsp

                   5. Daniel Winter (1802-42), capt. in Indian Army = in 1831 Frances Mellor (d.

                       1880) >:

                       (1) Daniel Winter (1839-1897 sp)

                       (2) Elizabeth Winter = Edward Mercer (1833-1917)

                       (3) William Winter (1833-56 in India) in Indian Army

                       (4) Hugh Bold Winter = Christian Anne Frances, d. of Rear Admiral John

                            Talbot >:

                             A. William Winter (b. 1868) Lieut. RN

                             B. Christian Winter (1870-90)

                             C. Maud Winter = Leonard Cresswell

                             D. Hugh Talbot Winter, Royal Artillery, killed in action 1914 = Eva, d. of

                                 Edward Chichester Incledon Webber of Braunton > Derek Winter 1899

                                 MVO > Mark Winter

                       (5) Jane Winter (1842-1933) = in 1860 Captain Verey of the Buffs >:

                            a. Rev. Lewis Verey MVO (1870)

                            b. Rev. Cecil Verey (1872-1958) > David Winter Verey >:


(A) Charles Winter Verey (1940)

(B) Christopher Winter (1941)

(C) Davina

(D) Veronica

Fig. D

 

William, bailiff of Brecon (1614) = Margaret Jones >:

(a) Sarah Winter = Rowland Gwynne

(b) Anne Winter = Lewis Jones > Wynter Jones

(c) Margaret Winter = Thomas Philips of Brecon

(d) Frances Winter = Lewis Watkins of Brecon, mercer

(e) Goditha Winter = Edward Edwards of Cefn-y-Coed

(f) Esther Winter = Owen Griffiths, clerk

 

The arms of the family of Vychan or Vaughan were "gules, a chevron between 3 Englishmen's heads in profile proper" because Ednyfed Vychan, lord of Brynfenigle defeated the English army under Ranulf, earl of Chester.  Vychan was ancestor of the Tudors, the Vaughans and the Lloyds ("Heraldry" - G. Pine).

 

Andrew Winter was Sheriff of Brecon in 1553 and the last bailiff under the Stafford Duke of Buckingham.  His name appears on a quorum as Commissioner of the Peace in Brecon in 1563 (4 Elizabeth I, Calendar Patent Rolls, Elizabeth I 1560-1563) as does the name of Anthony Winter as Commissioner of the Peace in 1563-1566 (6th Elizabeth).

 

Andrew Winter's brother Lewis Winter of Cantref was a doctor whose son John was bailiff of Brecon in 1589, his son William in 1614 and a descendant William in 1695 were also bailiffs.  Another descendent William of Brecon was an apothecary and his son Daniel (d.1758) a doctor, whose son William was sheriff in 1721.  There were many doctors in this branch up to 1909 and several clergymen.

 

Amongst the High Sheriffs of Brecon were:

 

1553 - Andrew Winter

1795 - William Winter

1729 - William Winter

 

and amongst the bailiffs:

 

1558     Andrew Winter

1589     John Winter

1602     WIlliam Winter

1614     William Winter

1635     Daniel Winter

1693     William Winter

1701     Daniel Winter

1719     Daniel Winter

1798     William Winter

 

The Lords Lieutenant of Brecon were:

 

1660                 Vaughan (Richard earl of Carberry?)

1675-1685                  Charles Somerset, marquess of Worcester (1675-1685), brother-in-law of Sir John Winter of Lydney.

1689                 the earl of Macclesfield.

1694                 the earl of Pembroke (Thomas Herbert?).

 

Cadet branches of the Winters of Brecon settled in Rhydnes in Radnorshire, Crickadarn and Llangoed in Breconshire.

 

The family owned a large amount of property in the parishes of Cantref, Aberyskir, Llanfihangel and Tal-y-llyn and a house in Brecon (1909) facing the southern entrance to St.Mary's Church, which became a temporary political club.

 

There are memorials in Brecon Priory Church to Robert Wynter, Rector of Penderin who died in. November 1808  and Anne his wife, died August 1803, also of. Robert Wynter, rector of Penderin, son of the above born 1794, died 11.4.1831.

 

In the nave appears:

 

William Wynter died 1.4.1806

Mary Winter, wife of Wlliam died 6.8.1749 aged 39 years.

William Winter died .2.6.1758 aged 55 years

William Winter died.1.4.1805.

Hugh Winter died 1.12.1833 aged 28 years.

Jane Winter died .31.7.1838 aged 37 years.

 

Elizabeth Winter, widow of above William and mother of above Hugh and Jane Winter died 2.7.43.1847 aged 70 years.

 

Captain Daniel Winter, 11th Regiment Madras Native Infantry d 30.4.1842.

William, eldest son of Captain D. Winter and Lieutenant in 52nd Regiment Madras Native Infantry. died Hytepaulee 2.7.5.1856 aged 23 years.

 

Talgarth has a memorial to Edward Winter de Tredustan and Anne his wife and son William of Llanfihangel-tal-y-llyn and his wife Eleanor and son, Walter James of Treivor, Monmouthshire.

 

In 1706 the name of Edward Winter, patron of the rectory of Landangel, Breconshire appears in the Act Book (IV. 616) of the Archbishop of Canterbury.

 

Crickadarn or Carrigcadarn (Kadarn's Fort named after Richard de Clare called Bew Kadarn or Strongbow) has a memorial to Henry Wynter (d. 1746) aged 51 years, his son Henry (d. 1742) aged 10 years, Mary his wife (d. 1735) of Rhydnes and Llangoed.

 

Llyswen (where once was a "fair palace" or "lys wen" of the Princes of Wales) lying on the outskirts of Brecon town in a bend of the river Wye has a memorial to Henry Winter, son of Henry (d. 1729) and Richard, vicar of Boughrood (d. 1729) aged 36 years.

 

Letters of Administration were given to George, son of John Winter of Llangoed, Llyswen in 1619 (p.217 Index Library, Index Vol. III Administrations Prerogative Court of Canterbury).

 

A farm in Tyr Howel Surdwall came to the Rev. William Winter who also owned property in Aberyskir.  The Rectory of Hirwaun was conveyed in the 17th century to Robert Winter of Brecon shortly before his death in 1806.  He resigned and devised it to John Thomas.

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