The Golden Falcon
Chapter VII/4 - Redrose
Tudor, Beaufort, de la Pole, Roet & Chaucer.
Paon or Payn Roet >:
Katherine Roet (d. 10.5.1493) = (1) Sir Hugh Swynford >:
1. Blanchette Swynford
2. Thomas Swynford
(1368-1432), constable of Pontefract Castle where Richard II died.
Philippa Roet = Geoffrey Chaucer (1340-1400) > Thomas Chaucer
(1367-1434) = Matilda
Burghersh > Alice Chaucer (1404-1475) = (1) Thomas Montacute,
earl of Salisbury (d.
1428) = (2) William de la Pole, 1st Duke of Suffolk (1396-1450)
> John, 2nd Duke of
Suffolk (1442-91), = Elizabeth Plantagenet of York, sister of
Sir William de la Pole (d.1366) of Ravenser, near Hull, Mayor of Hull in 1333, lord of Holderness, knight and merchant (1339-49) > Michael, 1st earl of Suffolk (1330-1389), Chancellor > Michael, 2nd earl of Suffolk (1361-14215) died at Harfleur > Michael 3rd earl of Suffolk died at Agincourt > William de la Pole, 4th earl of Suffolk killed in 1450 by Yorkists = Alice Chaucer.
Roet by John of Gaunt whom she married afterwards >:
Henry Beaufort (13765-14) Cardinal Beaufort
Thomas Beaufort (1377-1427 obsp) = Margaret, d. of Richard Neville, earl
Joan Beaufort = (1) Sir Robert Ferrars = (2) Ralph Neville of Raby, 1st
Westmorland > Cecily Neville “the Rose of
= Richard Plantagenet, Duke of York
A. Edward IV
B. Richard III
C. Elizabeth Plantagenet
= John de la Pole, 2nd Duke of Suffolk
(d) John Beaufort (1372-1409) = Margaret Holland (niece of Richard II) >:
1. Joan (d. 1445) = (1)
in 1424 James I (d. 1438), king of Scots = (2) Sir James Stuart,
2. John Beaufort, duke of Somerset = Margaret Beauchamp > Margaret Beaufort =
Edmund Tudor = Henry VII Tudor = Elizabeth Plantagenet, d. of Edward IV
3. Edmund Beaufort, duke
of Somerset >:
Edmund Bdeaufort (ex. 1471 at Tewkesbury)
John Beaufort (exec. Tewkesbury 1471)
Henry Beaufort, duke of Somerset (exec 1464) > earls of Worcester
Anne Beaufort = in 1469 Sir William Paston
Margaret Beaufort = Humphrey Stafford, earl of Buckingham
de la Pole, earl of Suffolk and his brothers, the earl of Lincoln and lord
William de la Pole were Yorkist heirs.
Edmund, William, James Tyrell and William Courtenay, son of the
earl of Devon were proclaimed traitors
by Henry VII - Tyrell was executed.
Margaret Beauchamp = (1) Sir John St. John > Edith St. John = Sir
Geoffrey Pole of Medmenham > Reginald Pole = Margaret Plantagenet,
Duchess of Salisbury, d. of the Duke of Clarence exec. with her brother
Edward earl of Warwick by Henry VIII.
William de la Pole > John de la Pole (betrothed to Margaret Beaufort
who was his father's ward) = Elizabeth Plantagenet, Edward IV's sister.
He fled to Burgundy to the court of Richard III's sister Margaret
and died in the Lambert
Simnel's uprising, his younger brother was executed by Henry VIII who also
executed th earls of Exeter, Surrey, Buckingham, Montagu (all Yorkist
heirs) and Richard III's illegitimate son John of Gloucester.
Winters may have been retainers of the Staffords, dukes of Buckingham and
Gloucester who were lords of Brecon.
Benedict Wynter appears amongst the burgesses in the charter of the
borough by the first Stafford, duke of Buckingham in 1448 and Andrew
Wynter, Sheriff of Brecon in 1553 was the last bailiff under the duke of
first lord of Brecon was Bernard of Neufmarche, Newmarch or Novo Mercatu,
said to be William the Conqueror's half-brother called Pancewolt through
his mother Herleva ("frater
uterinus") held land
near Bath called Dunkerton from Thurstin fitzRolf, Gillingham in Dorset,
Hildesley in Gloucester, the manor of Froxfield in Sussex and Lundy
Island. In 1088 he took part
in a rebellion against William Rufus led by Odo, Bishop of Bayeux with
Ralph Mortimer and Roger de Lacy, ravaging Worcester and Herefordshire.
He married Nest or Agnes, daughter of Osbern fitzRichard of
Richard's Castle by his wife Nest, daughter of Gruffyd ap Llywelyn ap
Seisyll, Prince of North Wales. Seisyll
was killed in 1063 by Harold and Tostig Godwinson.
Newmarch was witness to a charter of William the Conqueror dated
1086-7 in favour of Battle Abbey which he signed "Bernardus
de Novo Mercatu". He
captured Brecon from Bleddyn ap Maernarch in 1092 and held it till 1125.
Giraldus Cambrensis (Gerald de Barry, archdeacon of Brecon) in "Itinerary
of Wales" wrote of him in 1188.
said:the county of Brecknock was divided into 3 cantrefs. They were called Selyf, Tewdos & Einon after the sons of
Einon ap Gruffyd ab Elise.
de Neufmarche to conquer Brecknock. He
married Nest, daughter of another Nest (wife of Osbern fitzRichard and
daughter of Gruffydd ap Llywelyn, the Welsh tyrant.
She was named Nest after her mother but the English called her
had children by her, one was Mahel, a distinguished knight, who lost his
inheritance through injustice. His
mother fell in love with a certain knight and committed adultery with him.
When this became known, her son Mahel beat up her lover one night
as he left his mother. He
gave him a beat him badly, mutilated him and sent him off in disgrace.
His mother, disturbed by the great uproar which followed was
greatly grieved and filled with a burning wish for vengeance.
fled to the Englihs king Henry I and told him maliciously that Mahel was
not Bernard's child but another's with whom she had been secretly in love
and committed adultery. She
swore an oath in person before the whole court, saying this story was
this perjury, King Henry, swayed more by prejudice than reason, gave
Nest's elder daughter (Sybil), whom she said was Bernard's daughter, in
marriage to his own kinsman, a distinguished young knight named Milo
fitzWalter, constable of Gloucester, giving him Brecknock as a dowry.
Milo was made earl of Hereford by Heny's daughter, Matilda, the
Empress. By his wife Milo
fathered a distinguished family, amongst whom were 5 sons, all of famous
knights named Roger, Walter, Henry, William and Mahel, each of of whom
succeeded their father except William.
They all died, leaving no issue and every one of them met an
untimely death by some extraordinary vengeance or by misfortune,
Constable of England was son of Roger de Pitres.
The Empress Matilda (who landed at Arundel on 30.9.1139) revived
the earldom of Hereford for Milo fitzWalter in 1141. He was accidentally shot by an arrow on 24.12.1143 when
hunting in the Forest of Dean. Of
his 5 sons Roger died in 1155, Walter was last traced as living in 1159,
Henry was killed in Gwent by Seisyll ap Dyfnwal in 1175, William did not
live to succeed and Mahel was killed in 1175 in Bronllys Castle when a
stone fell on his head during a fire.
youngest brother, Mahel was Milo's last heir.
He was more notorious for his great cruelty than than all the
others. He was so determined
to harm David II, Bishop of St. Davids (David fitzGerald, Gerald de
Barry's uncle) and to land and retainers under his control, that David was
compelled to abandon his jurisdiction over Brecknockshire and to go into
exile, first to other parts of his diocese and then to England.
day when Mahel was being entertained by Walter de Clifford (died 1190, son
of Walter fitzPons) in Bronllys Castre when the building burned down by
accident. A stone, falling
from the main tower, struck Mahel a mortal blow on his head.
He immediately sent messengers to the Bishop to asking to return
father!" he lamented "holy
Bishop, your saint has exacted a cruel vengeance! He did not wait for my repentance, miserable sinner that I
am. He has lost no time in
causing my death and destruction."
He died bewailing his fate with tears and lamentation. He died in miserably before completeing the first year of his
- lordships of Brecon & Gloucester and the manor of Dyrham.
of Brecon & the manor of Dyrham.
Newmarch > Henry Newmarch = Frethesant Paganell, widow of Geoffrey
Lutterell 1299) who held Dunster >
Isabel Newmarch = Ralph, son of John Russell of Kingston Russell >:
(A) Matilda Russell = Robert Waleran, Constable of St. Briavels
(B) Robert Russell given Dyrham William Russell (d. 1311) >
Theobald Russell >
Ralph Russell (1357) > Sir Maurice Russell (d. 1416) >:
Isabel Russell = (1) Sir John St. Loe = (2) Sir John or Walter Drayton who
to Gilbert Dennis
Margaret Russell = Sir Gilbert Dennis > Sir Maurice Dennis > Sir
William Dennis >
Walter Dennis = Margaret, d. of Sir Richard Weston of Surrey who by his
2.2.1540 conveyed Dyrham to George Wynter, Treasurer of the Navy to
I & brother of Sir William Winter.
Hinton manor was conveyed by Sir
Dennis on 22.9.1508 to others. Sir
Nicholas Poyntz of Iron Acton conveyed
it and lands in Dyrham to Thomas White who on 14.4.1541 granted it
Elyot, mayor of Bristol so that Severn shipping should be free of
tolls in Bristol. Sir
Nicholas was guardian of John Winter of Lydney.
Sybil Newmarch = Milo fitzWalter, son of Walter, Constable of England by
Emma, d of Drue de Baladun, lord of Abergavenny.
(Walter was son of Robert of
Gloucester, illegitimate son of Henry I). Milo helped Queen Maud against king Stephen
and was made earl of Hereford, Constable of Gloucester and lord of
Brecon. He was
killed on 14.12.1143 in the Forest of Dean) > Bertha 2nd
d. = William de Braiose of
Bramber, Sussex & Falaise, Normandy > William de Braiose (d.
1211 at Corbeil) =
Maud/Matilda de St. Valery. He
was castellan of Brecon & Abergavenny, witness to
murder ot Prince Arthur of Brittany and ancestor of the Winters
(see descent of the
manor of Bramley, Surrey) d. = Humphrey de Bohun, lord of Brecon,
earl of Hereford,
supporter of Simon de Montfort, earl of Leicester against Henry III
> William de Bohun,
earl of Northampton, lord of Brecon = Elizabeth, d. of Bartholomew
Badlesmere, lord of
A. Mary de Bohum = Henry
B. Eleanor de Bohun =
Thomas Plantagenet of Woodostock, duke of Gloucester &
Buckingham > Anne Plantagenet, widow of William Bourchier =
Ralph Stafford >
Humphrey Stafford = Margaret I Beaufort, d. of Edmund, earl of
(Humphrey’s cousin Henry Stafford = Margaret II Beaufort, d. of
John, duke of
Somerset, Edmund’s brother.
Margaret II’s 1st husband was Edmund Tudor by
whom she had Henry VII. She
= (3) Sir Thomas Stanley, a Yorkist who defected to
the Lancastrians on Bosworth field) > Humphrey Stafford (d.
1460) = Anne Neville,
d. of the earl of Westmorland > Humphrey Stafford (d. 1483) =
sister of Queen Elizabeth, wife of Edward IV. Katherine was widow of Jasper Tudor
(Henry VII’s uncle).
Dentatus > Robert fitzHamon = Sybil >:
Amicia = earl of Brittany
Mabel (d. 1157) = Robert (d. 1147), Consul of Gloucester, illegit. son of
Henry I >:
A. Maud = Ranulf “Gernons”,
earl of Chester
B. William, earl of
Gloucester (d. 1183) = Hawise (d. 1197), d. of Earl of Leicester >:
1. Isabella (d. 1217) = (1) King John (div) = (2) Geoffrey Mandeville, earl of Essex (d.
1216) = (3) Hubert de Burgh
Amicia (1217-18) = Richard de Clare, earl of Hertford > Gilbert de
Clare, earl of
& Hertford (d. 1230) = Isabel (d. 1240), d. of William Marshall, earl
= (2) Richard earl of Cornwall in 1231 >:
Amicia de Clare = Baldwin de Redvers, earl of Devon
Isabella de Clare (d. 1295) = Robert Bruce of Annandale
c. Richard de Clare (d. 1262) = Matilda, d. of John de Lacy, earl of Lincoln >:
(1) Roessia de Clare =
Roger de Mowbray
(2) Margaret de
Clare = Edmund Plantagenet, earl of Cornwall
(3) Isabel de Clare = William of Montferrat
(4) Gilbert de Clare (d. 1295) = (1) Alice de Lusignan (div) = (2)
of Acre >:
Elizabeth de Clare (d. 1360), held
lordship of Glamorgan = John de
Burgh earl of Ulster (d. 1313) = (2) Theobald de Verdon (d.
1316) = (3)
Roger d’Amory. By
(1) > Wiliam de Burgh, earl of Ulster (d. 1362) =
Maud, d. of Henry Plantagenet, earl of Lancaster >
Elizabeth, Countess of
Ulster = Lionel Plantagenet, earl of Clarence, son of Edward III
Plantagenet (d. 1382) = Edmund Mortimer, earl of March (d.
Mortimer (d. 1398) = Eleanor Holland (d. 1405) > Anne
Richard Plantagenet of York earl of Cambridge (d. 1415) >
Plantagenet, duke of York (d. 1460) = Cecily Neville (d. 1495) “the
1. Edward IV
2. George Plantagenet, duke of Clarence (d. 1477) = Isabel Neville >:
a. Edward Plantagenet, earl of Warwick (obsp 1499)
b. Margaret Plantagenet, countess of Salisbury = Sir Richard Pole > left
3. Richard Plantagenet,
duke of Gloucester (d. 1485) later Richard III =
Anne Neville (1471) = (1) Edward of Lancaster, son of Henry
VI. By (2)
Prince of Wales (obsp 1484)
(B) Eleanor de Clare = Hugh le Despencer > Edward le Despencer =
of Lord Ferrars of Groby > Edward le Despencer = Elizabeth, d.
Bartholomew Badlesmere, lord
of Castlecombe > Thomas le Despencer
(d. 1400) = Constance Plantagenet, d. of Edmund Plantagenet
Duke of York > Isabel le Despencer (d. 1438) = (1) Richard
earl of Worcester (d. 1422) > Anne Beauchamp = Richard Neville,
Salisbury & Warwick (d. 1471) “the
Anne & Isabel (see
Reginald fitzRoy = Beatrice or Hawisia (de Vannes), d. of Candor (+), earl of Cornwall >:
Hawisia = Richard de Redvers, earl of Devon, lord of the Isle of Wight.
Matilda = Robert, earl Mellant (Robert of Meulan, earl of Leicester).
Ursula = Walter, 1st baron Dunstanville
Sarah = Viscount of Limoges.
possibly a pre-Conquest Celtic earl as Robert of Mortain, William I's
half-brother was given Cornwall after 1066 - he conspired against William
and was captured. His son
William of Mortain, a supporter of Robert of Normandy, was captured by
Henry I, blinded and imprisoned. He
was released in 1118 and became a monk in 1140 (during Stephen's reign).
Candor was a Breton as Vannes is in the canton of Morbihan in Brittany
which was re-colonised from Cornwall in the 6th century and still retains
Gaelic. Cornuailles is an ancient county in the west ofi Brittany
with its capital at Quimper.
to a Castlecombe Cartulary he was Reginald fitzHenry, 2nd earl
of Cornwall, illegitimate son of Henry I.
de Dunstanville at Conquest in 1066 > Reginald or Robert de
Dunstanville (temp. Henry I) buried at Tewkesbury = Adeliza, d. of
Humphrey de Insula (de Lisle or Lille) > Reginald de Dunstanville (d.
1157 at Castleacre, buried at Tewkesbury) = Adeliza or Alicia, d. of
Reginald, 2nd son of Earl
Warenne of Surrey >:
Adeliza de Dunstanville = Thomas Bassett of Hedendon (10 Henry II)
Walter de Dunstanville (d. 1105), 1st baron, lord of Heytesbury, given
Addreshale in his wife's dowry = Ursula, d. of Reginald fitzRoy
(illegitimate son of Henry I
called Dunstanville, earl of Cornwall, baron of Castlecombe.
mother was either Anne
(Sybil), d. of Robert Corbet of Alcester, Warks. by his wife
Havisia/Beatrix daughter of Candor, earl of
Regio sanguine Britannorum"
(of the blood
of British kings) OR Anne, d. of Adeliza de
Dunstanville (wife of Reginald)]
> Walter de Dunstanville, 2nd baron (d. 124?) = (as her 3rd
Matilda, d. of William Marshall, earl of Pembroke (her 1st
husband was Hugh
Bigod, her 2nd Reynold, 2nd son of William,
earl Warenne & Surrey) > Robert or Reginald
de Dunstanville (d. 1185 at Wilton), granted Heytesbury,
Wiltshire in 1155 by Henry II =
Isabella, d. of Raymond V, Count of Toulouse. She drowned in Rochester in 1184 and
was buried there >:
A. John de Dunstanville
> Robert de Dunstanville = Grace de Bohun > Dunstanvilles of
Cricklade > Sir Thomas Wriothesley.
B. Walter de Dunstanville, 3rd baron (d. 1269) = (1) Isabella, d. of
Thomas de Clare,
brother of Gilbert, earl of Gloucester.
Walter = (2) Roessia > Petronilla de Dunstanville
= (1) Robert de Montfort (d. 2 Edw I 1273) = (2) John de la
Mare of Bradwell (d. 1313).
By (1) > William de Montfort sold barony to Bartholomew
Badlesmere in 1309.
filius nothus Regis Henrici Primi, secundus comes Cornubiae a Conquestu et
baro de Castell Combe ex dono patris sui, cui insuper Stephanus Rex
Angliae contulerat Comitatum Devoniae et concubinam acceptit Beatricem de
Vanne quae peperit Henricum filium nothum.
Eo que mortuo Beatriceam traxit in uxorem Will'mus de Brewerre,
Angliae dictus William at the Heath, baron et dominus de Torbay qui genuit
ex ea alterum Willelmum et quinque (qu quatuor) filias parternae
hereditatis nominatim heredes. Obiit
Reginaldus Comes Anno Dom. 1175 et sepultus est apud Redinge.
Total terram quam habetat tam in Anglia quam, in Normannia et in
Wallia retinuit Rex Henricus Secundus in manu sua ad opus Johannis filii
sui junioris, excepte parva portione quod dedit filiabus ipsius comitis ex
pellice filius Henricus nothus obiit in Gascoignis sine prole vulgariter
dictus filius Comitis. Hadevisia filia nupta Ricardo de Ripariis Comiti
Devoniae et Domino Insulae Vectis (Matilda) filia nupta Robto, Comiti
Mellenti, Waleranni Comitis filio, Ursula nupta Waltero de Dunstanville,
baroni de Castell Combe.
Rainoldus de Dunstanville pater Rainoldi obiit 3tio die Aprilis anno 2do
Regis Henrici 2d sepultus Tewkesburye.
Et uxor ejus filia Rinaldi secundi filii Willelmi, Comitis Warenne
obiit 3mo die Maii anno 4to ejusdem legis et est sepulta apud Tewkesburye.
Sed dicitur a quibusdam quo est sepulta apud Castel Acre quia
frater est fundator ibidem. Et
Isabella uxor juvenis Rainoldi una filiarum Ramondi Comitis de Tholose
filii Johannis Comitis de Tholose et mater Walteri, fuit submerse apud
Rochester anno 30mo Regis Hen. IIdi et est sepulta in monasteriio ibidem
et postea eodem anno obiit maritus ejus apud Wilton (Castlecombe
acknowledged son of King Henry I, 2nd earl of Cornwall since the Conquest
and baron of Castlecombe by gift of his father, on whom moreover king
Stephen of England conferred the earldom of Devon.
He accepted as his concubine Beatrice de Vannes.
When he died, Beatrice married William Brewer, known in English as
William at the Heath, baron and lord of Torbay, whose offspring was
another William and 4 or 5 daughters who were his co-heiresses.
Earl Reginald died in 1175 and was buried at Reading.
All the land he held, in England as well as in Normandy and Wales,
was taken into the hands of King Henry II at the instigation of his
youngest son John, except a small portion which was given to Henry
fitzCount who died without heirs in Gascony. Earl Reginald's daughters (1) Hawise married Richard of
Redvers, earl of Devon and lord of the Isle of Wight, (2) Matilda married
Robert, Count Mellent, son of Waleran and (3) Ursula married Walter de
Dunstanville, baron of Castlecombe.
de Dunstanville, father of Reynold died on 3.4. 2 Henry II (1148) and was
buried at Tewkesbury and his wife, daughter of Reynold, 2nd son of
William, earl Warenne died on 3.5. 4 Henry II (1150) and was buried near
Tewkesbury. Some say he was buried at Castleacre which his brother
founded. And Isabella, wife
of Reynold junior, daughter of Raymond count of Toulouse (son of John,
Count of Toulouse), mother of Walter, was drowned near Rochester in 3
Henry II (1147) and was buried in a monastery there and her husband died
the following year at
1214 Walter, 2nd baron Dunstanville, obtained Heytesbury from his father
Reginald (d. 1185). He joined
the Magna Carta rebels and his lands were forfeit to King John who
bestowed Combe, Brocton and Heytesbury upon Geoffrey and Oliver de
Buteville. After king John died, the lands were restored to Dunstanville.
Walter de Dunstanville, 3rd baron, held lands in Shropshire and
helped Hamon le Strange to defend the Marches and troops were summoned to
Hertford and Ludlow to resist the Welsh.
Walter died in 1270 seised of Heytesbury.
daughter and heiress Petronilla married Robert, son of Peter de Montfort
(d. 4.8.1265 at Battle of Evesham) one of the Montfortian rebels barons at
Lewes. Peter's wife was
Alice, daughter of Henry de Aldithley or Audley of Stafford by whom he had
3 sons, Peter, William and Robert to whom he gave lands in Rutland.
Peter de Montfort was descended from Hugh de Montfort named "with the beard" who fought at Hastings and whose
descendants held Beaudesert.
de Montfort (son of Robert and Petronilla) married his step-sister
(daughter of Sir John de la Mare, his step-father).
Peter de la Mare held Offley, Hertfordshire at the Conquest.
This family also held Steeple Langton, Knavewell, Langley and Leigh
in Wiltshire (near Castlecombe). In
1277 and 1282 John de la Mare fought against Llywelyn.
He held Heytesbury in 1250-1272 during the reign of Henry III.
fitzRoy de Dunstanville, earl of Cornwell and Robert de Dunstanville were
witnesses to a grant made by Henry II to Thomas a'Becket.
FitzRoy and Robert "Blanchemains",
earl of Leicester summoned Becket to court and fitzRoy was involved in
1173 fitzRoy and Richard de Lucy, the Justiciar burned Leicester which had
revolted against the king. FitzRoy
and his brother Robert of Gloucester (the king's two uncles) defeated the
earl of Leicester who took up arms on behalf of the king's son Henry (d.
1175 at Chertsey and buried at Reading).
earl of Cornwall left 4 daughters and 2 illegitimate sons named Henry
fitzCount and William. Henry
fitzCount was granted the earldom of Cornwall by King John but this was
forfeited later (4 Henry II - 1150).
FitzCount died shortly afterwards.
Burbage was held by Walter de Dunstanville of the Honour of
Wallingford whose lord was Brian fitzCount; he and Dunstanville fought on
the side of Queen Maud/Matilda.
to William of Worcester earl Reginald fitzRoy's arms were "argent, 2 lions or within a bordure bezanty".
Other authorities say they were
"gules, a lion passant guardant or, with a baton or bendlet sinister
de Wyntershull (Wintershill) was witness to a charter of Henry III dated
27.5.1270 (xxvii die Maii anno
Liiiito Regis Henrici Tertii) in connection with Castlecombe. Other witnesses were William de Valence, earl of Pembroke
described as "fratre nostro"
(he was the king's half-brother through their mother Isabella of Angoulême,
widow of king John who married secondly Hugh le Brun of Lusignan, Count de
la Marche), Philip Bassett and Robert Waleran (castellan of St. Briavels
who gave his share of Dyrham to his brother-in-law - they had married 2
families of Winter and Wintershull or Wintershill of Winter's Hall, Surrey
may have been related, they also had had common descent.
Wintershills inherited the manor of Bramley, Surrey which eventually went
to the Winters of Wych and one member of this family, John Winter, was
Fastolf's steward at Castlecombe where a colony of Flemings had been
passed eventually to Sir John Fastolf through his wife Millicent Scrope
67 - Lordship of Castlecombe: Scrope, Badlesmere, Tiptoft, Fastolf.
Tibetot or Tiptoft (6 John - 1205) > Henry Tibetot (d. 34 Henry III -
1250) granted the forfeited lands of Adam de Painell in York and Lincoln
in 1 Henry III = > Robert Tibetot (d. 25 Edward I - 1297) = Eva, d. of
Pain Chaworth (d. 1314) who was in Palestine with Tiptoft), by his wife
Agnes, heiress of Newmarch, daughter of William Roos of Hamlake (d. 3 Edw
III 1330) > John Tiptoft = (1) Margaret Badlesmere = (2) Elizabeth, d.
of Sir Robert Aspal, widow of Thomas Wanton > Sir Pain Tiptoft (1 Henry
IV) > John Tiptoft, earl of Worcester in 1449.
Scrupe or fitzScrob, a pre-Conquest Norman came to England with Emma, d.
of Richard of Normandy, wife of Ethelred "the
Scrope held Richard's Castle & manors in Worcestershire,
Herefordshire and Shropshire which was named Scropes Scire and Shrewbury
Scropes Byri after him. He
subdued Edric the Wild in 1067 and was favourite of Edward "the
> Osbern fitzRichard le Scrope = Agnes or Nest, d. of Gruffydd ap
Llywelyn ap Seisyll (killed during the
Wesh campaign of Harold and Tostig Godwinson in 1063) >:
Nest le Scrope = Bernard Newmarch, lord of Brecon.
Simon le Scrope (cousin of Gilbert de Gand, earl of Lincoln) held
fitzRichard's lands at
Conquest > Walter (1102) > Hugh (1149) > Robert
(1160 & 1198) > Simon (1195) >
(1206) > William le Scrope (d. 1303) > Henry le Scrope (d. 1336)
of Will of Henry de Lacy, earl of Lincoln whose arms "or, a lion
were granted to Scrope by de Lacy (who had no male heir) = Margaret, d. of
of Kendal > Richard le Scrope (d. 1403) = (1) Blanche (d. 1375), d. of
William de la Pole & sister of Michael, earl of Suffolk.
Richard le Scrope = (2) Margaret,
d. of Sir
John de Montfort or d. of Spenser >:
a. Roger le Scrope (d. 1403) = Margery Tiptoft.
b. Stephen le Scrope,
lord of Castlecombe = Millicent Tiptoft = (2) Sir
Bartholomew Badlesmere, lord of Castlecombe in 1308 >:
Maud Badlesmere= John de Vere.
2. Giles Badlesmere (d. 1338) = Elizabeth Montacute = (2) Hugh le Despencer = (3)
Guido (Guy) de Brian (d. 1359) castellan of St. Briavels.
Margery Badlesmere= William Roos of Hamlake = (2) Thomas, lord Arundell.
Elizabeth Badlesmere= (1) Edmund Mortimer, earl of March > House of
York = (2)
William de Bohun, earl of Northampton > his daughters =
Thomas of Woodstock and
Henry IV of Lancaster respectively.
Margaret Badlesmere = John Tiptoft > Robert Tiptoft (d.1372) =
Margaret, d. of
William d'Eyncourt (d. 1 Richard II) = (2) John Nixander >:
a. Margaret Tiptoft = Roger, eldest son of Richard Scrope.
b. Millicent Tiptoft =
(1) Stephen, 3rd of Richard Scrope of Bolton = (2) Sir John Fastolf.
steward ath Castlecombe was John Winter of Castel Mayett and Wych.
families of Fastolf and Winter may have been connected for some time.
Thomas Fastolf (d. 1361, bur. Carmarthen), archdeacon of Norwich
and Bishop of St. Davids, shared the advowson of Llanwllni with Walter
Winter, archdeacon of Carmarthen in 1330. Another Hugh Fastolf was mayor of London in 1387.
Fastolfs and Winters may even have been connected by marriage with other
Norfolk families. Hugh
Fastolf (1445) and his wife Katherine Bedingfield (1478) have a brass at
Oulton, Suffolk. A century or
so later John Winter of Barningham Winter (Will dated 28.9.1558) married
Catherine, daughter of Philip Bedingfield of Ditchingham.
Fastolf belonged to the Guild of St. George at Norwich. An inventory was made at the cathedral church of the Blessed
Trinity, Norwich of the goods and jewels which belonged to the guild
amongst which was "a
precious relique, one angell (of) silver and guylt berying the arme of
Seynt George which was given to the seid fraternite by John
Fastolf, knight." This
guild or company increased so much that they lent the city £100 or £150.
the reign of Henry V and Henry VI had amongst its members Sir Brian
Stapleton1, Sir John
Fastolf, Sir Thomas Erpingham, Sir Thomas Morley, William de la Pole,
earl of Suffolk, Lord Bardolf and his wife Joan, William Paston the king's
chief justice, Sir John Hevenyngham2, Edmund
Winter of Barningham Winter & Eggemere, John fitzRalph, John
Bacon, Christopher Strange, William Paston and William Roos, esquires, Dr
John Kenningham, Prior of the Carmelites, John Heydon3, Simon
Felbrigge, William Spelman, John Taseburgh4 and others.
Stepleton = Joyce Cooksey as 3rd husband.
Her sister Elizabeth or Cecily was ancestress of the Winters of
Winter = Richard Heveningham (Thomas Heveningham d. 1499 - brass at
Ketteringham, Norfolk of him, his wife, 5 sons & 5 daughters)
Winter of Norfolk's d. Eleanor Winter = John Heydon (Baconsthorpe manor,
arms at Swanton Nowers & Taverham)
Tasburghs of the 1700s were related to Frances neé Napier or Napper, wife
of Sir CharlesWinter of Lydney.
1314 Gilbert, earl of Clare (Badlesmere's nephew) was commander of the
king's forces in the Forest of Dean against Llywelyn Brea.
Badlesmere held Heytesbury which was granted to Despencer when Badlesmere
was executed as his wife refused Queen Isabella (wife of Edward II) entry
into Leeds Castle, Kent. When
the Despencers fell from grace, the lands were granted to Badlesmere's
widow who also had rents in West Greenwich, Rotherhithe and Camberwell. His son Giles Badlesmere was granted Heytesbury West Court by
Edward II and it passed to Henry de Burghersh, bishop of Lincoln
(his cousin) whose mother was Bartholomew's sister.
Heytesbury East Court remained with Giles and was assigned to Lord
de Roos and Margery his wife (Giles's sister and co-heiress).
lordship of Heytesbury may have been claimed by the Hungerfords because
Eleanor, daughter of Sir John Berkeley of Beverstone, widow of John, earl
of Arundel and Maltravers (d. 1421) married (2) Walter, lord Hungerford of
Heytesbury to whom Thomas Cromwell granted Heytesbury.
Bassets were closely connected with Castlecombe.
Thomas and Alan Bassett offered 500 marks for the wardship of the
de Dunstanville heir but it was granted to William Briwerre (Brewer) for
300 marks. This was later
cancelled and Gilbert Bassett paid 500 marks for the same.
The Bassetts were nephews of the heir's father, the first Walter de
Dunstanville whose sister Adeliza married Thomas Bassett, lord of Hedendon
(Headington) Oxfordshire, one of the king's justices itinerant.
Dunstanville gave Winterbourne Bassett to Alan Bassett (brother of
Thomas and Gilbert Bassett) and Geoffrey fitzPiers or fitzPeters, earl of
Essex and William Marshall, earl of Pembroke were witnesses to the deed
which Richard I confirmed in 1197 at Chinon.
Fulk Bassett, son of Alan, held Compton Bassett of Walter de
Dunstanville during the reign of Henry I.
Alan died without heirs as did his elder brother Gilbert.
Philip Bassett who inherited, fought on the king's side at Lewes.
the Testa de Neville or Book of Fees, Fulk Bassett and Reginald de Mohun
are listed as having held Compton Bassett for a knight's fee from Walter
de Dunstanville, lord of Castlecombe.
Mohuns were lords of Dunster, Somerset, another clothmaking area with a
settlement of Flemings and William II, lord of Dunster married Agnes de
Gand (Ghent). Reginald I de
Mohun. lord of Dunster, Somerset married Alice, daughter of William
Briwerre (Brewer) and his son Reginald II de Mohun was ward of Henry
fitzCount, son of the Earl of Cornwall, then of William Briwerre.
Reginald II married as his second wife, Isabel (d.1260), daughter
of William Ferrars of Derby, widow of Gilbert Bassett.
Reginald de Mohun II's son John Mohun (d. 1279) married Eleanor
FitzPiers, their son John was husband of Ada, daughter of Robert Tiptoft.
family of Gand or Ghent were Flemish aristocrats, hereditary advocates of
St. Peter's Abbey, Ghent and descendants of Charlemagne.
- Ghent, Alost & Flanders
Wickman, count of Hamaland and Ghent, uncle of emperor Otto I the Great = Luitgard, d. of count Arnulf I of Flanders > son (d. 962 AD) possibly Baldwin > Ralph, lord of Alost (1031-52) = Gisela (+), d. of count of Luxembourg > Baldwin I of Alost >:
Baldwin II of Alost "the
Nicaea 1097) >.Baldwin III of Alost died in 1127 in
Flanders > d. Beatrice.
Ralph, chamberlain to Count of Flanders.
Gilbert de Ghent at Conquest, earl of Lincoln (his great aunt Adele =
grandfather of Eustace al Gernons II who was at Conquest) = Alice, d. of
Hugh of Montfort-sur-Risle >:
1. Gilbert de Gand,
eldest son obsp.
2. Hugh de Gand (later
Hugh IV of Montfort-sur-Risle), 2nd son = Adeline, d. of earl
3. Walter de Gand (d.
1139) of Bridlington, York (ancestor of Lindsays of Scotland), at
Battle of Standard = Maud, d. of Stephen of Brittany, earl of Richmond >:
A. Gilbert de Gand.
B. Robert de Gand.
C. Geoffrey de Gand
D. Walter II de
Gand of Ercildon = grand d. of Seier de Seton > Gilbert VI of
obsp in 1297 = Lora de Baliol whose kinswoman Ada, sister of King John
Baliol = William de Lindsay of Lamberton in
4. Robert de Gand.
5. Ralph de Gand, Limesi
or Lindsay, chamberlain of Flanders.
6. Henry de Gand
(ancestor of Erskines of Scotland).
7. Emma de Gand &
8. Agnes de Gand =
William I de Mohun, lord of Dunster.
9. Alice de Gand = John
de Lacy, lord of Clitheroe & Pontefract, Constable of
Chester, earl of Lincoln by right of his wife.
Gisela’s sister Ogive was wife of count Baldwin IV of Flanders >
Baldwin V of Flanders > Matilda > William I of England so Gilbert de
Ghent of Folkingham at Conquest and his brother Baldwin of Alost was first
cousins of Baldwin V of Flanders.
of Ghent, lord of Lindsey or Lincoln (younger brother of Baldwin, count of
Alost) was kinsman of Eustace II of Boulogne who great aunt Adele was
Count's grandmother. Gilbert
held 172 manors in Berkshire, Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, Warwickshire,
Derbyshire, Oxfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Northamptonshire,
Leicestershire, Nottingshire, Rutland., Lincolnshire and Yorkshire. His seat was at Folkingham, near Grantham, Lincolnshire.
witnessed a charter dated 1075 of Watten Abbey, Dunkirk.
He was put in charge of York with William Malet in 1068 but they
were defeated by the English who killed the whole Norman garrison except
Malet and Gilbert who were led away in chains as prisoners to be ransomed.
Gilbert of Ghent was uncle of Hugh and Robert de Montfort who went
on crusade. Gilbert's nephew,
Baldwin II "le Gros"
of Alost who also went on the First Crusade following his kinsman Godfrey
de Bouillon (son of the count of Boulogne) fell at Nicaea in 1097.
castellans of Ghent, a cadet branch took Alost arms "sable,
a chief argent." after death in 1166 of last lord of Alost,
Thierry, Dierick or Dirk (son of Ivan who seized the lands of Beatrice,
daughter of Baldwin III of Alost).
A Ghent descendant Arnold I (who claimed and won county of Guines in 12th century) had about 13 children, several of whom died in East Anglia and the East Midlands. The counts of Ghent and Alost were allied to the Flemish family of Coucy whose descendant Ingelram de Coucy (son of Arnold III of Guines) married Christiana, daughter of Sir William Lindsay of Lamberton in 1280.
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