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Parading of the colours at the Pow Wow, STANDOFF, Alberta Jul.18,1998

FRED PACE joined the North West Mounted Police in 1873 at TORONTO, traveled to WINNEPEG (Fort Gary) via CHICAGO and eventually became a trading post merchant at STANDOFF, Alberta (North West Territories in those days) The surnames PACE, PEARSON, SQUIRE are associated with this area of southern Alberta. Fred was connected with the establishment of Standoff, as a centre for the Blood Reserve, largest reserve in Canada.

Standoff was a Mounted Police post in the early days, later moved a dozen miles south to Cardston.

WEBMASTER'S NOTE: OUR FIRST UK QUERY was from JAN ANDERSON of Staffordshire, England

Her query went unanswered for over a year, when Gordon Pace of Ontario, Canada, discovered it and found a relationship.

I have given that thread its own special page....Related queries follow.
Since then...much interesting information about Anglo-Canadian & American Paces has come to light.

THIS KIND OF EXCITING CONNECTION IS EXACTLY WHAT THE PACE PAGE IS DESIGNED FOR...!

GENERAL STUFF WILL BE PUT "UP FRONT" WITH MESSAGES AND QUERIES FOLLOWING

This is the beginning.

This query was on the Pace Network for over a year before there was a response.

Subj: Re: PACE family
Date: 96-09-09 05:00:10 EDT
Email: JAN.ANDERSON@nene.ac.uk

NOTE: Jan lives in England (the .uk at the end of her e-mail address = United Kingdom.)

FATHER - JOHN EDWARD PACE b. 1926 in PELSALL, STAFFORDSHIRE, England, he was the son of EDWARD PACE b. PELSALL 1874 d.1960 and FLORENCE MABLE DILK b. Pelsall 1900 d. 1968. EDWARD PACE, son of another EDWARD PACE b.1845,SAREDON, Staffordshire, and EMILY CULWICH ; they had 6 children. It's said EDWARD died young, a mining accident. There were children from another marriage, so as you can see, it will be no easy task to trace them.

One of my Fathers cousins was called CHARLES PACE and he emigrated to OTTAWA c. 1930
and married the daughter of either a jeweller or a goldsmith.

Sorry this isn't much, just birth certificates I have and family history, that has been passed on.
I will send you more as I get it.

I live in NORTHAMPTON now right in the middle of ENGLAND, I was born and brought up in STAFFORDSHIRE, virtually where my ancestors have lived for generations. My Mother is WELSH though so I have relatives all over, my parents and 2 of my sisters still live in Staffs. My son goes to a private school here, we have Public Schools as well but they are usually very old expensive private schools....Our records certainly back to the mid 19th century are excellent, before then, it was not necessary to register births and deaths so it is a bit hit and miss. -Jan

Jan shared some personal information in a later email.
I like for us to get to know each other, and besides, it's educational. Here it is:-

This is a response to my comment that I had heard the terms "public school" and "private school" had opposite meanings in England and here. I taught in a public school in the U.S. - Roy

MY REPLY

Date: 97-12-22 16:05:52 EST
Subj: GREETINGS FROM CANADA
From: gordpace@eagle.ca (Gord Pace)

Dear Jan,

I've just scanned over the PaceNetWrk....UK Queries page AND CAN HARDLY BELIEVE MY EYES !!
Your grandfather....EDWARD PACE.... MUST BE MY GRANDFATHER'S BROTHER...!!!

CHARLES PACE, your father's cousin, who emigrated to OTTAWA c.1930 etc., is very likely my uncle CHARLIE, brother of my father THOMAS HENRY PACE,..their father was CHARLES VICARAGE PACE 1871-1926 married. ANNIE ARCH 1868-1964 of WALSALL, Staffordshire Jan 13, 1898 and had the following family:-

family of CHARLES VICARAGE PACE & ANNIE ARCH
of Walsall, Staffordshire, England

PACE, FRANCES Lucy...b.Oct 28,1898 Blakenall Heath, Walsall, Staffordshire
PACE, ANNIE Beatrice...b.Feb.15,1900 Blakenall
PACE, CHARLES Wm.......b.Jul.18,1902 Blakenall
PACE, Edward ARTHUR...b.Mar.5,1904 Blakenall
PACE, JESSIE...b.Jun.2,1906 Abram, Lancashire ....(Family moved to Lancashire)
PACE, Emily MARIAN...b.Sept.9,1907 Abram, Lancashire
PACE, VIOLET...b.May 14, 1909 Abram, Lancashire
PACE, THOMAS Henry...b.Feb.9,1914 Abram, Lancashire (my dad)

Date 98-01-07
From: JAN.ANDERSON@nene.ac.uk
To: gordpace@eagle.ca
Subject: Re: Greetings from Canada

Hi Gordon

Sorry I have not been back to you, I was fascinated by your mail but I was at home from 22/12 until 5/1 (no email there) and then my sister died on the 5th so I am well behind with everything. Will be in touch again soon. Jan PS mentioned your mail to my Dad and he remembers Charlie coming to visit my Grandfather when I was a baby about 1950 I would think! Dad is really excited; I think it has given him something to look foreward to after the grief of these past few months....Jan

LOOK.....Our grandfathers are in this family of
EDWARD PACE & EMILY CULWICH

PACE, FRANCES E.... born 1870 Shareshill....(went to Melbourne, Australia)...info needed
PACE, CHARLES VICARAGE...b.1871 Laney Green, - my grandfather
PACE, EDWARD b.1874 Laney Green, - Jan's grandfather
PACE, THOMAS b.1876 Laney Green, Staffordshire
PACE, WILLIAM b.1877 Shareshill, Staffordshire
PACE, EMILY D b.1880, Cannock,....(went to Melbourne, Australia)...info needed

The two sisters are thought to have married PRESTON and WALTON chaps

EDWARD PACE came from this family
JOSHUA PACE & HANNAH HICKIN

JOSHUA PACE b.1809 Laney Green m. HANNAH HICKIN b. 1812 Norton Hales, near Cannock
PACE, LUCY...Christened Aug.6,1834...
PACE, THOMAS born 1837 Bloxwich, Walsall, Staffordshire..
PACE,WILLIAM born 1840 Shareshill/Saredon.
PACE, EDWARD born 1845 Saredon, Staffordshire
PACE, EMILY b.1849-1915...married JAMES LANE SQUIRE...settled at Norwood, Ont. Can...
PACE, JOSHUA b.May 31,1854 Laney Green (Shareshill) settled Norwood, Ont. Canada...
PACE, MARY Ann 1856-1941 married HENRY THOMAS SQUIRE...Settled at Norwood... ..

....PACE sisters married two of four SQUIRE brothers,: SQUIRE family of WEDNESFIELD and BENTLEY...
....near WOLVERHAMPTON, England

EMILY PACE 1849-1915 married JAMES LANE SQUIRE 1848-1920 (8 children) EDWIN CHARLES b.1872;...BERNARD WILLIAM b.1876;.. . ALICE MARY b.1870;...EMILY b.1875:... ROSINA MAY; FRANCES;...LUCY GERTRUDE;...FRED J; settled at Norwood, Ont, Canada

MARY ANN PACE 1856-1941 b.Laney Green m. HENRY THOMAS. SQUIRE 1850-1937 born SHORT HEATH Milk dealers in BENTLEY (no children) settled at NORWOOD, Ont.Canada

MARY ANN PACE b.1873, CHESLYN HAY,Staffordshire - Shows in 1881 census as neice of the above SQUIRE family;
may be of WILLIAM & MARY PACE SHARESHILL/HILTON, Staffordshire Look below

JOSHUA PACE, born May 31,1854, LANEY GREEN, Staffordshire; died 1917, NORWOOD, Ontario, Canada....
Occupation 'mercer' (millinary/dry goods merchant)... son of JOSHUA PACE, b.1809 of LANEY GREEN
and HANNAH PACE, b. 1812, NORTON, Staffordshire...

EDWARD 'Teddy' PACE d.1958 HAVELOCK, Ontario...Wife - WINNIFRED Was a travelling salesman-Hardware; Had a General Store, CORDOVA MINES, Ontario, when gold was mined there. Farmed north of HAVELOCK, Ontario, nearby...buried at HAVELOCK. (near Norwood)

1881 - Bentley, Staffordshire

SQUIRE, HENRY THOMAS born 1851 b. Short Heath, Staffordshire b. Short Heath, Staffordshire Milk Dealer
SQUIRE, MARY ANN (nee Pace) born 1858 Laney Green Wife Milk Dealer
PACE, MARY ANN Neice born 1873 Cheslyn Hay

1881 - Shareshill & Hilton, Staffordshire

PACE, WILLIAM b.1840 Shareshill, Staffordshire, coal miner
PACE, MARY born 1840 New Invention, Staffordshire midwife
PACE, ARTHUR b.1863 Willenhall, Staffordshire
PACE, WILLIAM b. 1864 Willenhall
PACE, ANNE b.1865 Willenhall
PACE, CHARLES b.1869 Willenhall
PACE, MARY ANN b.1872 ..........
PACE, FANNY b. 1877 Shareshill

JOSHUA PACE....from the following
family of WILLIAM PACE & MARY BROWN

PACE, WILLIAM Christened July 14, 1765 at SHARESHILL.... married MARY BROWN 1785
PACE, JOHN c.June 4, 1788 m. LETITIA BAKER child Elizabeth c.Aug 25, 1823 Cheslyn Hay Wesleyan...
PACE, WILLIAM c.Dec.26,1790 Shareshill m.MARY child ANN c.Nov.25,1823 St Peter's Wolverhampton.
............THOMAS c.July 17,1842 at St.Mathew's, WALSALL
PACE, MARY c.July 7, 1793 Shareshill m. JOSEPH LANE June 3, 1816 Shareshill
PACE, ELIZABETH c.Sept.11,1796 child EDWARD c.Feb.6,1820 Shareshill
PACE, ANN c.Aug.25,1799 Shareshill...
PACE, MARGARET c.Dec.5,1802 Shareshill
PACE, THOMAS c.May 26,1805 Shareshill...
PACE, JOSHUA c.July 10,1808

WILLIAM PACE Christened 1765 was born into the family of
JOSEPH PACE Christened 1735 and wife MARY PITT
PACE, ABIGAIL m.John GOSLING at Shareshill, Oct.10,1768
PACE, THOMAS Christened Jan.29,1764 at Shareshill
PACE, WILLIAM Chr.Jul.14,1765 mar.MARY BROWN - my line
PACE, MARY Chr.Apr.20,171767 at Shareshill
PACE, CHARLES Chr.May 6,1770 at Shareshill
PACE, GEORGE Chr.Sept.28,1772 mar.MARY COOPER Sept.29,1799 at Bushbury (family below)
PACE, SARAH mar.JOHN TURNER at Shareshill Jun.19,1797

PACE family of GEORGE & MARY COOPER
PACE, SARAH Christened Apr.10,1803 at Shareshill
PACE, PHOEBE Christened Feb.10,1805 at Shareshill m.ALEXANDER REED Wolverhampton
PACE, MARY Christened Feb.25,1807 at Shareshill
PACE, GEORGE Chr. Oct.8,1809 mar.SARAH CORBETT Apr.23,1821
...........daughter LOUISA Chr.Jun.22,1856 Codsall
PACE, MARIA Chr,Jul.7,1814 Shareshill m. GEORGE SMITH
PACE, ANNE mar.HUMPHREY PARKER at Wolverhampton
..........son THOMAS PARKER b.1842

Other Related Paces that settled in ALBERTA, CANADA and USA

PACE, HENRY 1836-1899 b.England .Watchmaker/Jeweller at OTTAWA, Ontario, 1870's and later LETHBRIDGE, North West Territories, (ALBERTA today) 1880's/90's Brother of FRED PACE of STANDOFF, Alberta, and SIDNEY PACE of GREAT FALLS, MONTANA

PACE, FREDERICK 1841-1898 of STANDOFF, Alberta ..(North West Territories before 1905)....one of the original constables of the NORTH WEST MOUNTED POLICE at 1873 formation of the force....Trading Post/merchant/post office at STANDOFF, NWT PACE Pioneer of the WEST
The fascinating story of FRED PACE of Standoff, Alberta FRED PACE - Click Here
by descendent...Norman Bevis Manyfingers of Calgary, Alberta

for interesting stories of Bull teams, Buffalo tracks, Railways, NWMP - Mormon Settlement, Cardston, etc

SEE ! http://upanet.uleth.ca/~FHC/htm

NEW QUERIES & Information

From: Ed Griffith <edgrif@enoreo.on.caTue 20:50Subject:
Subject: PACE FAMILY - ONTARIO
To: gordpace@eagle.ca

Hi Gord,

Got your email address from the Pace web site.

My greatgrandfather was JOHN PACE born in NORTHUMBERLAND, England on Jan. 23, 1827. He and his wife,
GRACE MOORE Feb. 11, 1832, settled in Dumfries Township, Waterloo County of ONTARIO, Canada in 1853. They moved to Egremont and,Proton Townships in Grey County, and eventually in Stisted Township in Muskoka. Their children were Margaret, Robert, Jane, Frances, Elizabeth, John James, Agnes Nancy, Thomas, Frances Mary, and William Henry.

Do you have any knowledge of them? Would like to hear from you.

Ed Griffith,
Aurora, On.

edgrif@enoreo.on.ca

NOTE from WEBMASTER

Although I'm still somewhat in the dark as to how my grandfather CHARLES PACE 1871-1926, or his father EDWARD PACE b.1845 are related to the three PACE brothers, FRED, HENRY & SIDNEY) I've recently learned, from history sources in ALBERTA, that the person that took over the FRED PACE TRADING POST at STANDOFF, AB after the death of FRED, was none other than a man named PEARSON.

This happens to be the surname of a man that married a cousin of my grandad and emigrated from England to the Pittsburg area of Pennsylvania USA in the 1880's. Could it possibly be that this wasn't just a coincidence. At this time, all I know is that my grandad's ambition was: that when his family arrived in Canada, in the '20's he would leave Alberta and take them to the USA, where "the others" had gone. When he had died at LETHBRIDGE, Alberta...prior to them arriving in Canada, the location and just who "the others" were, was actually lost....None of the surviving members of CHARLES family, arriving from England seemed to know of this destination. I've asked this question, many times.

The similarities of Staffordshire, with it's abundance of coal, iron foundries and steel industries and the same attributes of the Pittsburg area of Pennsylvania USA plus the fact that Charles had relatives already recently emmigrated to that area of the USA lead me to reason that this was the area of the USA he probably had in mind.

That's all I can truthfully say, at this time.
Gord Pace.

Subject: Re: PACE GENEALOGY
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 21:24:08 EDT
From: AFe9963285@aol.com
To: gordpace@eagle.ca

Hello Gord,

A lot of information, but one step at a time.
To begin with, Joshua who married Hannah.

I have in my notes on "your" Joshua; in the 1841 census, age 35, and in the 1861 census aged 53....On 30 September, 1833 Joshua married Hannah HICKIN at Walsall. This would seem to tie nicely to a first child bapt. 6 August, 1834, and could be confirmed via a birth certificate for one of the later children. I believe he was the son of William PACE (married Mary BROWN in 1785??). William I think was the half brother of George, wife of Mary. Thus our common ancestor was probably Joseph PACE bapt. at Shareshill on 1 Feb, 1735 son of Joshua PASTE and Margaret MATHER.

Looks like we are probably from the same family of PACE from Saredon. My 3X great grandfather was Joshua PACE baptised at Bilston, Staffs. on 23 October, 1831. Joshua was the son of George PACE and Abigail BROWN who had married at Wolverhampton on 9 May, 1831. Although I do not have absolute proof, there is circumstantial evidence suggesting George was baptised on 8 October, 1809 at Shareshill, son of George PACE and Mary (probably COOPER).

Do you have enough information to either agree or disagree with my theories?
Great to hear from you. This all looks very promising.

Adrian
Library, Pennsylvania
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Date: 98-06-20
From: "Norm/Barb Kivinen" <nkiv@Quetico.tbaytel.net
To: <gordpace@eagle.ca
Subject: Pace Family Tree

Greetings from THUNDER BAY, Ontario, Canada.
Very interesting site, the Pace Page.
I have a MARCELLA PACE (KIVI), daughter of ARTHUR KIVI and AILI KIVI (KENTALA).
No information of birth/death of MARCELLA. She married HERBERT PACE and had children:
JEFFERY, DIANA, & CAROL....Last Known Residence was in OREGON, USA.
Thanks for the help.

Norm Kivinen <nkiv@Quetico.tbaytel.net

NOTE: - Could THOMAS ROBERT PACE , of this following statement, originally of KANSAS, be the son of
WILLIAM CHERINGTON PACE, of the following query, who died at SABETHA, KANSAS in 1919?

Date: 98-02-10 17:24:36 EST
From: HowarkB@nrcb.gov.ab.ca (Brenda Howorko)

Roy, the following may be of interest to someone checking out your page
and needing some information on these folks.

JAMES WILLIAM PACE m. SARAH ALICE BANNISTER in Center, Saguache Co.,
Colorado, and immigrated to Canada in 1902.

JAMES WILLIAM PACE was the son of THOMAS ROBERT PACE who came from
Kansas to Colorado in 1883, and brother to GERTRUDE who married SCOTT
ARMOUR. GERTRUDE and SCOTT were the parents of EDITH AND EUNICE.

Children of JAMES WILLIAM (WILL) PACE and SARAH ALICE (ALICE) PACE:
JAMES STANLEY PACE, PERCY LLEWELLYN PACE, DOROTHEA ELIZABETH PACE, AMY
ALICE PACE, MAROE PACE. MAROE was born in Calexico(?).

At least three of their children died in infancy and one was named
Britamarte/Britamonte. The family moved back to the U.S. around 1914 and
WILL and SARAH both died in Susanville California (1955 & 1956). The
family lived in Utah as well and I just noticed that both girls died as
children in California.

They farmed in south central Alberta (Nanton)

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Date: 97-01-15
From: sasprk@aol.com (Sue Sparkman)
Subj: WILLIAM CHERINGTON PACE

Looking for data on WILLIAM CHERINGTON PACE born 2-11-1819 in SHIFNAL, SHROPSHIRE, England and died 1919 near SABETHA, KANSAS. He was married twice. His first wife, ANN HATHAWAY, was a cousin, and they married in England. She died shortly after arriving in the U.S. They were the parents of two or three children. WILLIAM married secondly to MARY ELIZABETH LAMBERTSON on August 17th, 1854 in BELLEVUE, Jackson County, IOWA. They were the parents of 6 children. WILLIAM CHERINGTON PACE'S sister, MARY PACE, married a brother of MARY ELIZABETH LAMBERTSON. E-MAIL ME AT SASPRK@AOL.COM

My name is Sue Eagle Sparkman ( Mrs. George L. ) and our address is as follows:
Mrs. George L. Sparkman (SUE) 1526 Berkley Drive, Mansfield, Texas 76063-2945

Subject: Re: SHROPSHIRE, Shifnal - PACE,William Cherington
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 21:26:13 +0100
From: Michael Gwilliam <michael.gwilliam@virgin.net
To: gordpace@eagle.ca
CC: MIDMARCH-L@rootsweb.com

The following appears in the IGI for Shropshire: WILLIAM CHERRINGTON PACE
baptised at Madeley on 5 September 1822 to GEORGE PACE/MARIA

Other baptisms of children of George and Maria:...Anne Pace baptised 13 January 1816 at Madeley;...
Eliz. Pace baptised 9 March 1815 at Madeley;...Joseph Pace baptised 21 July 1813 at Madeley;...
Margaret Maria Pace baptised 19 July 1824 at Madeley;...Mary Pace baptised 2 September 1818 at Madeley

And the following marriage:
George Pace to Maria Cherrington at Kemberton on 16 May 1810.

Other entries that may be of help:
George Pace baptised at Sheriff Hales, Shropshire on 12 August 1787 to JosephPace/Elizabeth
Maria Cherrington baptised at Shifnal on 29 July 1780 to William Cherrington/Ann

I strongly recommend you order film for these parishes, which are all within a few miles of each other,
through your LDS Family History Centre to check and hopefully add to this information.

Good luck
Mike

SHIFNAL Click here for more on William Cherington Pace

Date: 98-03-10 23:48:56 EST
From: Catymarko catymarko@aol.com
To: PaceNetwrk
Subj: PACE Family - Vienna, Elgin County, Ontario Canada

Looking for ancestors of my great grandfather and great grandmother CALVIN and RACHEL PACE,
pioneers of VIENNA, ONTARIO, CANADA.

Per the 1881 Canadian census,CALVIN was 62 years old at the time of the census ( 20 years senior to his wife RACHEL). He was born in ONTARIO Province about 1819 and of PRUSSIAN decent. He was a machinist by trade. Was a member of the Methodist church. RACHEL moved to VIENNA from the NIAGARA District with her family when she was 2 years old (about 1841). Per the 1881 Canadian census RACHEL was born in Ontario and of ENGLISH decent. Her father was a builder of houses and built the first grist mill in Vienna.

After she married, she had a farm on the OTTER CREEK Bank overlooking VIENNA. She was a member of the Methodist Brethren in pioneer days. Have newspaper clipping commemorating RACHEL's 98th and 100th birthdays (one printed in the ST THOMAS TIMES, the other from a paper in PORT BURWELL). There son, JOHN BURGESS PACE (my grandfather) moved to TACOMA, WA and married my grandmother SIGNA AUGUSTA ANDERSON. JOHN BURGESS PACE was killed in a hit-and-run auto accident in 1937.

Please respond to JOHN TERRY, 211 Campbell, Redlands, CA 92373
or catymarko@aol.com
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Date: 98-02-20
From: <dickinfl@southeast.net
To: gordpace@eagle.ca
Subject: EMERY GENEALOGY

I am looking for information regarding my great grandfather and his brother, GEORGE & JAMES EMERY
born 1829 & 1823 respectively, in BRIGHTON, SUSSEX Co., ENGLAND....

Bill Dick dickinfl@southeast.net

Date: 98-02-18 8:38 PM
From: Lawrence Scott Pace <sshpa@napanet.net
To: gordpace@eagle.ca
Subject: Pace Family

If you e-mail me, please put - attn: Scott, in the subject area

What a great stroke of luck to have found the Pace family history on the internet

Let me tell you what I know to see if this ties in with your family: My Grandfather, FRANCIS "Frank" PHILIP PACE was born in GUELPH, (Gwelf) Ontario, Canada 5/20/1874. He became a N.Y. lawyer. His family lived in a house which was torn down to make room for the building of the Library of Congress. He married Marie Breitbarth. He had brothers CHARLES, DELBERT (an MD), JOHN EDWARD, FREDERICK, WILL (boxing champ of the U.S. Navy), and two sisters(don't know their names. Francis P.Pace's father was JOHN BRICE PACE(believed to be born in England)...He was married to MARY BEGY. Does any of this look familiar? I'll look forward to hearing from you.
Take Care. L. Scott Pace, Sonoma, CA

Date: 98-01-18
From: norry@shaw.wave.ca
To: gordpace@eagle.ca
Subject: FRED PACE of Standoff, Alberta

My maternal great granddad was FRED PACE in the 1800s. He ran a trading post in Standoff, Alberta approx. 40 miles west of Lethbridge, Alberta. Is it possible that this Fred Pace is related to you. Let me know.

Norman Bevis Manyfingers Calgary, Alberta
norry@shaw.wave.ca More Below from Norman

I'm trying to connect the ALBERTA PACES, FRED & HENRY to the NORWOOD, Ont. PACES because my grandfather CHARLES VICARAGE PACE 1871-1926, died in LETHBRIDGE, Alberta also. . GP ....I've since learned the NORWOOD, Ont. SQUIRE/PACE folk were siblings of my great grandfather EDWARD PACE b.1845 Saredon/Shareshill, Staffordshire....parents were Joshua/Hannah PACE

Date: 97-12-28 16:23:59 EST
From: gordpace@eagle.ca (Gord Pace)
To: royjNOSPAM@webster.edu (Remove the NOSPAM)
Subj: UK Pace Queries Page

Hello Roy,

Thanks millions for the entry on the UK PACE QUERIES, The second one, JAN ANDERSON, from NORTHAMPTON, ENGLAND, and originally, STAFFORDSHIRE must be a second cousin of mine. Now I know what my grandfather's father's name was, ELIJAH PACE - 1850 - 1912...My grandfather's name was CHARLES VICARAGE PACE - 1871 - 1926. My father's name was THOMAS HENRY PACE 1914 - 1964 The CHARLES PACE, that JAN mentioned, emmigrated abt, 1930 to OTTAWA, Ontario, Canada as her father's cousin, is my UNCLE CHARLES, married EMILY WEBBER, a jeweller, HUNTINGDON, Que.

Once again, thanks greatly for your input,..... GORD PACE@eagle.ca

Date 98-01-07
From: JAN.ANDERSON@nene.ac.uk
To: gordpace@eagle.ca
Subject: Re: Greetings from Canada

Hi Gordon

Date: 98-01-19 8:19 AM
From: Janet Anderson <jan.anderson@nene.ac.uk
To: 'gordpace@eagle.ca'
Subject: Re:- Pace Net Wrk - query

Many thanks for more emails, I am slowly catching up and will write more later.. I visited my Mum and Dad yesterday (Mum's 70th birthday) and was intrigued to find that they had received a message from a guy in Mid Wales asking if they were related to a Dave Pace in Wolverhampton, my Dad was unaware of any relatives in Wolverhampton, you have mentioned this I think does Dave mean anything to you?

Jan

Date: 98-01-08 13:58:40 EST
From: gordpace@eagle.ca (Gord Pace)
To: royjNOSPAM@webster.edu (Remove the NOSPAM) CC: JAN.ANDERSON@nene.ac.uk (Jan Anderson),
apace@gov.calgary.ab.ca (Alan C. PACE), art.dodsworth@gems2.gov.bc.ca (Arthur N. DODSWORTH),
(BRENDA HOWORKO) howorkb@enr.gov.ab.ca
Subject: UK PACE page PaceNetWork

Hello Roy!

Thanks so much. This sure is exciting, connecting with people who seem to be glowing with excitement too......JAN ANDERSON wrote back yesterday from the UK...Lots for us to work on ahead...BRENDA HOWORKO, from your pages, is also involved with access to Gov. Archives in EDMONTON on our ANGLO-CANADIAN-AMERICAN ancesters...lots of fun and GREAT NEWS for ENTERING '98 - Thanks Again - Gord Pace, Box 3066, Brighton, Ontario K0K1H0

Date: 97-10-31 02:57:51 EST
From: Brenda Howorko howorkb@enr.gov.ab.ca
To: royjNOSPAM@webster.edu (Remove the NOSPAM)
Subj: WALTER JAMES PACE

I had written some time ago requesting information specifically on my paternal grandfather WALTER JAMES PACE and so far nothing. So, perhaps I could make the inquiry more general and inquire after any Canadian Pace entries? Walter was probably born between 1985-1905. He married my grandmother WINIFRED JEAN (Jenny) SHANNON in PIAPOT, SASKACHEWAN around 1916. The only other thing I do know about him is that his mother's name was likely ORA MATHES and he lived in both MEDICINE HAT and CALGARY, ALBERTA until his death in 1956/1957. P.S. My web address has also changed since my last query . News...Through digging, BRENDA finds..name on death certificate for 'WALTER'....WALKER ELGIN PACE born 1894, Feb.25th GEORGETOWN, KENTUCKY, son of WILLIAM JAMES PACE.......Mother unknown (at present) howorkb@enr.gov.ab.ca (Brenda Howorko) She is looking for information on ORA MATHES or MATHEWS in KENTUCKY, GEORGIA, TENNESSEE web sites.

WALKER's parents were WILLIAM J. PACE and ORA PACE. He had one sister, HELEN, and three younger brothers, GEORGE, and twins, ROBERT S.. & WILLIAM P....the father WILLIAM J. PACE was a railway worker and they lived in the village of ROCKY HILL, KENTUCKY

Gordon Pace puts it all together -- now these three are working together.

It's great to see the PaceNetWrk work this way !!

Date: 97-12-26
To: Brenda Howorko howorkb@enr.gov.ab.ca
From: gordpace@eagle.ca
Subj: WALTER JAMES PACE

Hello there Brenda

I read your letter of Oct. 31st from the PaceNetWrk Perhaps this may or may not be any help
but nothing ventured is nothing gained.

While on vacation in southern ALBERTA last July, I visited the PINCHER CREEK Museum and Kootenay Brown Historical Park. Farley Wuth, the curator, had some books there. One listed the obituary names from the Alberta newspapers, going back many decades. In it were two Pace obituaries. FREDERICK PACE of STANDOFF Alta., The Lethbridge News, Dec.15, 1898, page 1;....also The Macleod Gazette, Dec. 9, 1898, page 4.....HENRY PACE, LETHBRIDGE,
The Lethbridge News, March 23, 1899, page 1

My grandfather was CHARLES VICARAGE PACE 1871 - 1926 died at Lethbridge.too My grandfather was related to a Jones, conductor on the Canadian Pacific Railway, at MEDICINE HAT, Alberta, His wife was a PACE, don't know her name. Could be my grandfather's sister?... Son William joined North West Mounted Police...I have photos of them.

The Alberta Provincial Archives has the Lethbridge News on microfilm If this is any help, I have more info. Perhaps it would be useful to see the obituary, the surviving members of the family are usually mentioned, and go from there...

Gord Pace, PO Box 3066, Brighton, Ont. K0K 1H0
gordpace@eagle.ca

Date: 98-01-06....(On a cold Alberta day)
From: howorkb@enr.gov.ab.ca
To: gordpace@eagle.ca (Gord Pace)

Good Lord willing and the creek don't rise, I will go to the archives on Friday and look at all those obits and double check the index - its actually a huge old hand written bound book at least 18 inches tall and about a foot thick Brenda Howorko (nee Pace)

Gordon also found the following related query on the Pace Network and responded.
Here is this query and his response)

Date: 97-04-16 16:00:43 EDT
From: Dogon8@aol.com (Nancy Brown)
Subj: Re: ANNA MARIA PACE

ANNA MARIA PACE was my great grandmother. she was born in 1865 in TIPTON England. she married JOSIAH PEARSON there and had six children ADA,,JOSIAH, ELIZABETH, LILLIAN, ANNE MARIA, and SAMUEL (born in USA) they immigrated to America and lived in Mckeesport, Pa. my name is Nancy Brown 150 Glenwood drive Monroeville, PA. 15146 any info will be appreciated.

Thanks, Nancy

Date: 98-01-09 14:47:10 EST
Subj: Re: ANNA MARIA PACE - Your Pace Net Wrk - query
From: gordpace@eagle.ca (Gord Pace)
To: dogon8@aol.com (Nancy BROWN)

Hello Nancy,
My name is Gordon Thomas Pace,
PO Box 3066, Brighton, Ontario, Canada K0K1H0 (905 355-9942)

ANNA MARIA PACE, born at TIPTON, ENGLAND in 1865, That's about six to eight miles from PELSALL & CANNOCK in STAFFORDSHIRE where my great grandfather came from......Please take a look at the UK PACE QUERIES page, when you get a moment and the top of the other one that says 1997 queries.....I don't know who my great grandfather had for brothers and sisters, at this time, for sure, but I have a few related PACE people you'll see on Mr. Johnson's pages, that emmigrated over here, from England and they were pretty much of the same generation (age). I'm trying to fit them into my FamilyTreeMaker programme. I know there were more and some went to the USA, where my grandfather, CHARLES VICARAGE PACE 1871-1926 wanted to go.....

It's possible there's a connection between your great grandmother ANNA MARIA PACE b.1865 and my great grandfather EDWARD PACE.....They are both STAFFORDSHIRE PACES,....

She writes back: She was born April 25, 1865, the child of WILLIAM PACE and ELIZABETH HILL, do we have a match ?

(WILLIAM PACE may be brother to my gr.grandfather EDWARD and JOSHUA... I know "JOSH" to be brother of EMILY SQUIRE, & MARY ANN SQUIRE, (both nee PACE), and son of JOSHUA and HANNAH)....I'm working on it with my second cousins in ENGLAND, from Walsall, Cannock that I found through these PaceNetWork pages....GP (the family of Joshua Pace, parents & siblings is now at top of page)

NOTE of Sept.4,1998 - The Census of 1841 shows William Pace, son of Joshua/Hannah Pace
William and Edward would be brothers

I wrote:- in 1881 - Do the names of this family sound familiar to you: -

PACE, WILLIAM.. 41 born Shareshill, Staffordshire, England
PACE, MARY... 41 midwife born New Invention, Staffordshire...(SQUIRE family area)
PACE, ARTHUR..b.1863, Willenhall, Staffordshire
PACE, WILLIAM.. b.1864, Willenhall, Staffs.;
PACE, ANNE........ b.1865, Willenhall;
PACE, CHARLES.. b.1869, Willenhall;
PACE, MARY ANNE.. b.1872,.............;
PACE, FANNY.. b.1875, Shareshill

She writes back:- Looks like our family, thanks, Nancy
NOTE: It's possible ANNA MARIA'S sister MARY ANN, was the neice of the SQUIRE family, above

NOTE...After finally reviewing the elusive 1851 and 41 censuses, WILLIAM PACE shows up in the JOSHUA / HANNAH family...GP

In Canada...Henry Squire & Sons, Willenhall, Staffs. can openers have been a "standard" for generations
gordpace@eagle.ca

I'm researching PACE, SQUIRE, HAYNES, ELLIOTT, EMERY, ARCH, LESTER, BENNETT, LIPSET, MARKLEY..
They all had their origins in Staffordshire, Shropshire, Worcestershire, Yorkshire...any info, I'd be glad to hear..
                                                                                                                                   gordpace@eagle.ca
EMERYs married PACEs and settled at TOLEDO, Ohio, U.S.A.
HAYNES - of LONDON, Ontario...
ARCH - of OTTAWA, Ontario
BENNETT - of WALLACE, Nova Scotia             gordpace@eagle.ca
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THIS QUERY came, in response to EMERY

Date: 98-02-20
From: betty <dickinfl@southeast.net
To: gordpace@eagle.ca
Subject: EMERY GENEALOGY

I am looking for information regarding my great grandfather and his brother, GEORGE & JAMES EMERY
born 1829 & 1823 respectively, in BRIGHTON, SUSSEX Co., ENGLAND....

Bill Dick dickinfl@southeast.net

From: dickinfl@southeast.net
To: gordpace@eagle.ca
Subj: EMERY Family genealogy

Dear Gordon , I appreciate your additional information. I located BRIGHTON, Ontario on the map. I worked in OTTAWA a few years ago constructing an addition to the OTTAWA CITIZEN NEWSPAPER plant.My grandfather DICK was born in NIAGARA FALLS, Ontario in 1870 and the family moved to NIAGARA FALLS,NY about 1883.

My great grandfather GEORGE EMERY moved from ENGLAND sometime and the first child was born in NELSON Township, HALTON County in 1870. The 1871 census shows a GEORGE EMERY in this county but the age is only 35 years instead of 42 or 43 years old.The code is 038 A 1 53 01. There is a GEORGE at the correct age in MIDDLESEX County, (ONTARIO) code 009 C 7 17 33. A JAMES of the correct age is listed in WENTWORTH County code 023 D 1 11 12. If I knew the wife and children of these people I could determine if they are the correct people.

Are the towns of CHIDHAM, RACKHAM, and ARUNDEL near BRIGHTON, England?... I have a couple of matches on the IGI files for the relatives in the SUSSEX County area. I appreciate all of your assistance

Bill dickinfl@southeast.net

< NOTE from Gord:.... ARUNDEL & RACKHAM are a stones throw apart, both about 10 miles west of BRIGHTON....CHIDHAM is on a channel peninsula, about 9 miles west of ARUNDEL, or 6 miles east of the famous naval center of PORTSMOUTH, and probably within sight of the ISLE of WIGHT, truly a mariner's paradise !

also WENTWORTH and HALTON counties of ONTARIO are where I grew up.

Date: 98-01-25 07:52:08 EST
From: gordpace@eagle.ca (Gord Pace)
To; royjNOSPAM@webster.edu (Remove the NOSPAM)
Subj: PACE of Staffordshire, England, and Ontario, Canada

GORDON T. PACE PO Box 3066, BRIGHTON, Ontario K0K 1H0
e-mail:....gordpace@eagle.ca Ph. 905 355-9942

I've just got back from a week in British Columbia and found this great page you set up, Wow!

In BC, I attended the PROVINCIAL ARCHIVES, researching a WILLIAM JOHN PACE of VANCOUVER, BC, ....and EDMONTON, Alberta. b May 6,1866 USA, entered Can. 1870 (Can. census 1901) Brenda Howorko, (nee Pace) in Edmonton, is researching the same interesting man in his latter life. He was a commissioner of the CITY of EDMONTON.....Prior to that, a contractor with a Wm. TIERNEY of VANCOUVER, (formerly NEPEAN, Ontario) his father in law, who built roads in Vancouver, Seattle, Victoria.and conducted GOLD DIGGING PARTIES in the 1898 KLONDYKE 'rush'....Wm.J.PACE had given his occupation as 'railroad worker', CROWSNEST PASS (CPR thru the Rockies)....I had ancestors who worked on that project, he might be one.
If interested GOLD RUSH story, involving Paces, write for an e-mail printout......gordpace@eagle.ca

Confirmed the following to be brothers-sisters:

HENRY PACE (1836-1899) b.England, d.Lethbridge,Ab. watchmaker/jeweller Ottawa, Ont 1877-79.& Lethdridge, Alberta, later... taken to ST. PAUL for burial by daughter, a 'KITSON'. Henry, father of 4 children (trying to find out about them)

FREDERICK PACE (Aug.26,1841-1898) b.Holloway, Middlesex, England. Fred ran a trading post & dry goods store, Stand Off, Alberta; wife Medicine Bear Woman, 2 children. Annie, Fanny, Johnny, (see reply below from FRED'S descendent)

SIDNEY PACE of GREAT FALLS, Montana born in England1856 - died PHILADEPHIA, Pa. Anybody know about this brother of FRED & HENRY ?

FRANCES ELIZABETH POCOCK (nee Pace) of BRISTOL, England (1898) Could this be my grandfather's sister, FRANCES E. PACE ? Look above ^

ADELAIDE MARY DUNCAN (nee Pace) of BRISTOL, England (1898) (no info)

Norman Bevis Manyfingers Calgary, Alberta norry@shaw.wave.ca

More on the Fred Pace. STANDOFF is a community on the northern part of the Blood Indian Reserve of Highway Two. The Blood Reserve is the biggest Reserve in Canada. Population is approx. 7,000 people. There is over 600 sq miles of Reserve. Basically Standoff, is a City Hall. Standoff was once a haven for Whiskey traders of the old west. It truly is amazing that Fred PACE came from England and made his way to Standoff and found a wife from the Blood Reserve. Fred and his wife have over two hundred decendents from the Blood Reserve. Fred's life was more that a success in more ways than one.

For interesting historical by Norman about FRED, his trading post and NWMPolice write gordpace@eagle.ca
I'll e-mail you an interesting printout
.

From a query of January, last year:-

Date: 97-01-02 17:05:12 EST
From: brothers@hevanet.com
To: royjNOSPAM@webster.edu (Remove the NOSPAM)
Subj: HELEN PACE

Hi! I'm quite new to this genealogy stuff, but noticed your site and checked it out. Perhaps you can give me tips on how to proceed. My grandmother was HELEN PACE, and she lived in MONTANA from (at least) 1940 to 1960 (particularly in HAVRE) She had a sister named JUANITA and another named Mary Zoe. She married a HOWARD BROTHERS in Havre. Her mother is ZOE PACE. If you can give me any tips on how to start this search, I'd appreciate it.

Kristin Brothers brothers@hevanet.com

Date: 98-03-08
From: gordpace@eagle.ca
To; Kristin Brothers brothers@hevanet.com
Subject: PACE family, reply to your query of 97-01-02

Hello Kristin,

I saw your query on the Pacenetwork about ZOE PACE, mother of HELEN PACE who Married HOWARD BROTHERS of Havre, Montana.

I'm looking for info on SIDNEY PACE who lived at GREAT FALLS, Montana back in the late 1800's. He had brothers FREDERICK PACE of STANDOFF, Alberta and HENRY PACE of LETHBRIDGE, Alberta.

GREAT FALLS, Montana. is south of Shelby, MT. Lethbridge, Standoff, Alberta. HAVRE, not far east of Shelby, MT ...the US/Canada border didn't fence much in, back then.

Perhaps ZOE PACE is a decendent of SIDNEY PACE. I have some history on Fred & Henry, nothing on Sidney except Henry's obituary says brother Sidney came from Great Falls. They were all related to my grandfather and came from England.

Thanks for your time,
Gord Pace PO Box 3066, BRIGHTON, Ontario, Canada K0K 1H0....e-mail:.. gordpace@eagle.ca Ph. 905 355-9942

Thanks for your email. I have just begun my search into my Pace family roots. I know my family lived in Fraid, Montana (it might be Froid... I got that from an obituary) for a time. I believe Zoe's maiden name was Grant. I need to get in touch with my family on other Paces... perhaps someone will know of Sidney. I am not sure that my family ventured into Canada, but you never know. I will keep your email on hand and if I learn anything, I will let you know.

Thanks!, Kristin

Perhaps the town was FERDIG, Montana....GP

"Telegrams were sent to his daughter, Mrs. Kitson, in St. Paul, and to his brother Sidney, in Great Falls. The latter arrived here on Tuesday night's train; and a telegram was received from his son-in-law in St. Paul, "
The Lethbridge News...1899....

From: GORD PACE, PO Box 3066, BRIGHTON, Ontario, Canada K0K1H0 (905 355-9942)

gordpace@eagle.ca

or gordpace@phc.igs.net

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