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Florist Amelia GEGG (1886-1953)

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Florist Amelia Gegg on her wedding day 12 July 1913

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Florist Amelia Gegg

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Flo at Beaconsfield Rd, Moss Vale

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Flo Collins (nee Gegg)

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St Clement's Marrickville where Henry and Florist were married

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Extract from Florist's Birthday Book for 1 February. The red lines are the day dividers

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Studio photo of Harry taken at Queen Victoria Markets, Sydney 31 March 1910

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Henry d'Arcy Collins on his wedding day 12 July 1913

Florist Amelia GEGG (known as 'Flo'), daughter of James Albert GEGG (1850-1915) and Elizabeth TICKNER (1852-1929), was born on 13 May 1886 in Windellama, NSW.1,2,3 She was christened on 12 April 1888 in Windellama.4 Her relationship to John is Maternal Grandmother. In 1900 (estimated) Flo resided in Windellama.5 In 1900 she was educated at Windellama Primary School . After leaving school there is a possibility she studied Shorthand, maybe about 1910 while she was living in Sydney.6,7 In 1903 her interests included music. She played both piano and organ. At age 17 she was presented with a gift of appreciation from St Bartholomew's Church for her organ playing when she left Windellama with her parents when they moved to Goulburn.8 Between 18 January 1910 and 30 March 1910 Flo resided at No. 2 Eventon St and then No. 2 Binning St in Erskinville, NSW.9 She married Henry d'Arcy COLLINS when he was 26 and she was 27 on 12 July 1913 at St Clements Anglican Church in Marrickville, NSW.2,10 After July 1913 she was a worker at home performing home duties .11 In Florist's birthday book on the 1 February 1914, she indicates a birth for an unnamed Collins child. While purely speculation, the notation may indicate a miscarriage or a stillborn child. If this is true, such a child would have been Harry and Flo's first-born.12

from 1915 to 1951 Flo and Henry d'Arcy COLLINS lived at a number of places . In about 1915, Harry and Florist lived at "Pineleigh", Common St North Goulburn, NSW. They were living there with Florist's mother Lizzie Gegg. Flo's father Jimmy Gegg died that year. It is not known whether they were living there at the time of his death or moved there to run the farm after his death. They were still in the Goulburn area in January 1916 when their son Les was born and December 1918 when their daughter Gladys was born and were still there in May 1926 when Florist's mother died.

Harry wrote a letter to the Australian military on the 8 July 1919 in relation to his brother from the address 42 Louis St Redfern. It is not known if he and Flo were resident there at the time but it is unlikely.

They are next known to have been farming at "The Briars" at Bong Bong, NSW where they arrived in 1929. There is a photo of their daughter Gladys taken at "The Briars" in 1929 and they were still there on 15 November 1932 when Harry's mother died. ["The Briars" was an area of about 120 acres. The property was rented from the Cruickshank family by Harry and Flo. They had the opportunity to buy it but didn't have the money so the opportunity was lost. To-day (2012) "The Briars" is a very popular hotel.]

Their next known residence was at Beaconsfield Rd, Moss Vale, NSW. They probably moved there from "The Briars" about late 1932 or early 1933. There is a photo taken there showing their son Norm at about five years old i.e. c.1933. How long they were there is not known but they are recorded residing at 49 Parkes Rd, Moss Vale between 1936 and 1943. The two locations are quite near each other with Beaconsfield Rd terminating at Parkes Rd, so maybe initially they were renting both places or they were renting Parkes Rd while their daughter, Dot and her husband, Clyde rented Beaconsfield Rd. Whatever the actual situation, they were back at Beaconsfield Rd by 1949. The Beaconsfield Rd house at some stage was divided into two flats with the house fairly equally divided across the centre. There was a front and a rear flat. Harry and Flo lived in the rear flat while their daughter Dorothy and her husband Clyde were in the front flat. Presumably this sharing occurred from 1949 after Dot and Clyde left Clyde's parents home. They finally left somewhere between 1951 and 1953 to live with their son, Leslie and his wife, Marie.

During 1952 - 1953 their son Norman, a builder, built them their own house at 84 Griffith St Oak Flats which was next door to Les. They took up residence in the house on 4 May 1953. They then lived in this house until their deaths.13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22

she died (aged 67) on 2 November 1953 at 84 Griffiths St in Oak Flats, NSW. The cause was a heart attack while sleeping.23,24,25 She was buried in November 1953 in Albion Park General Cemetery, Croome Rd in Albion Park, NSW. A service was conducted at St Andrew's Anglican Church, Oak Flats prior to her burial.

A newspaper clipping was found in the possessions of her daughter Betty King (nee Gladys Collins) reporting her death.

OBITUARY

MRS F A COLLINS

The death occurred at Oak Flats, Albion Park, on November 2, of Mrs F A Collins, late of Goulburn and Moss Vale.

She was a native of Windellama where she was born 67 years ago, and was a daughter of the late James and Elizabeth Gegg.

Following her marriage she lived for a number of years in Goulburn and went to "The Briars" Moss Vale in 1929. They transferred to Oak Flats a little over three years ago.

She is survived by a husband, Mr Henry D Collins, and two sons - Leslie of Oak Flats and Norman Moss Vale, and two daughters - Gladys (Mrs E Owen , Condor Park) (should be Condell Park) and Dorothy (Mrs C O'Neil, Moss Vale).

After service in St Andrew's Church Oak Flats, interment was made at Crome Cemetery, Albion Park, the service being conducted by Rev Mr Evans and the funeral arrangements were carried out by Mr B Simpson of Dapto.

Two In Memoriam Notice clippings were also found. They are undated but probably were inserted on the first anniversary of her death.

IN MEMORIUM

COLLINS - Treasured memories of by (stet) dear wife, Florist Amelia, whom God called home Nov 2nd, 1953.

I think of you in silence,

And often speak your name,

But all I have to cherish

Is your photo in a frame.

Inserted by her loving husband, Harry

IN MEMORIUM

COLLINS - In loving memory of our dear mother, passed away Nov 2nd, 1953.

To hold her hand and hear her voice

Would be our greatest pleasure,

So please dear Lord look after her

She was our greatest treasure.

Inserted by her loving sons and daughters, Leslie, Gladys, Dorothy and Norman, daughter-in-law, Marie, sons-in-law Ted and Clyde, grandchildren John and Denise.26

 

In later life, like many people of her generation, she seemed to take a great interest in buying lottery tickets, in the hope of winning her fortune. She wasn't obsessive about it but it did make up a lot of her conversation with family and friends.27,28,29

 

Henry d'Arcy COLLINS (known as 'Harry') was the son of James Thomas COLLINS (1847-1928) and Selina ARNOLD (1856-1932).

 

["The Briars" (Formerly The Royal Oak) at Moss Vale Rd, Bong Bong (5 km north of Moss Vale) is a two-storey brick building erected in 1845 and substantially renovated during the 1940's by Talbot SANDERSON. (This was after Henry and Florist COLLINS were farming there).

There are large 12-pane windows with shutters and good cedar joinery (now painted). The brick building at the rear appears to be the original kitchen which has been extended.

The building is sited on William BOWMAN's original grant and possibly incorporates his Argyle Inn (1827-30). This is only one of two historic buildings (the other being Throsby Park) left in the village of Bong Bong.

(These notes were found in the late 1980s in a book on historic houses. The details of this book have been mislaid and so a reference to it as a source is not possible. If anybody has the details, please email them so that the source can be acknowledged properly)].30

 

Henry d'Arcy COLLINS and Florist Amelia GEGG had the following children:

 

Leslie James COLLINS (1916-1995)

Gladys Elizabeth COLLINS (1918-1991) (known as 'Betty')

Dorothy Selina COLLINS (1922-2010) (known as 'Dolly')

Norman Henry COLLINS (1928-1990)

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1{S0184}, BDM (NSW) Online Birth Index - GEGG Search. Cit. Date: before 1 July 2009. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Registration no : 13801 / 1886
2{S0444}, Certificate - Marriage : COLLINS, Henry d'Arcy (0015) and GEGG, Florist Amelia (0016). Cit. Date: 28 February 2011. Assessment: Primary evidence.
3{S0447}, Certificate - Birth : COLLINS, Leslie James (0088). Custom Id: NSW 8005 / 1916. Cit. Date: 5 March 2011. Assessment: Primary evidence.
4{S0282}, Internet (IGI - International Genealogical Index) : General (Family Search : http://www.familysearch.org/). http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=100439949863&ld.... Cit. Date: 20 May 2010. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: "Christening : 12 APR 1888 Goulburn, New South Wales, Australia"
5{S0796}, Book : "The Canterbury Pearl Text Bible". Cit. Date: 27 January 2014. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
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Source: Book : "The Canterbury Pearl Text Bible", *BIBLE : The Canterbury Pearl Text Bible - Collins (face_page)

6{S0701}, Book : School Exercise : Florist Amelia Gegg (0016). Cit. Date: 12 August 2013. Assessment: Primary evidence.
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The first page of Flo's school book

7{S0702}, Book : Pitman's Shorthand - GEGG, Florist Amelia (0016). Cit. Date: 16 August 2013. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
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The front cover with the top right showing Flo's name in her handwriting

8{S0050}, Newspaper : GEGG, James Albert (0017) and members of his family (Goulburn Herald and Goulburn Evening Penny Post). Cit. Date: before 1 July 2009. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
9{S0212}, Card (Postcard) Assorted. Cit. Date: 6 March 2012. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source: (1) "Miss F Gegg, c/- J Lawson Esq, No. 2 Eventon St Erskineville"
(2) "Miss F Gegg, c/- Mrs J Lawson, No. 2 Eventon St Erskineville"
(3) "Miss F Gegg, c/- Miss Tickner, No. 2 Binning St Erskineville""
(4) "Miss F Gegg, c/- Mrs J Andrews, No. 2 Binning St Erskineville"
(5) "Miss Flo Gegg, No. 2 Binning St Erskineville"
(1) From "Flo" post dated 18 Jan 1910
(2) From sister Mat post dated 28 Jan 1910
(3) From sister Mat post dated 15 Feb 1910
(4) From sister Mat post dated 30 Mar 1910
(5) From "Will" post dated ? Mar 1910
In 2012, while Binning St exists, Eventon/Ewenton St does not appear on the maps. Maybe the street is no longer there. Both addresses are No. 2 which suggests the possibility that the same residence may be being referred to although both the Ev(w)enton St refer to J Lawson while the others Mrs J Andrews and Miss Tickner. It appears that Flo was definitely resident in Erskineville from at least January to at least March.
10{S0065}, BDM (NSW) Online Indexs : Marriages (NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages Marriages Index : http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?SessionID=&event=...). Cit. Date: before 1 July 2009. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Registration no : 11985 / 1913
11{S0021}, Researcher : OWEN, John Edward (0001). Cit. Date: before 1 July 2009. Assessment: Primary evidence.
12{S0146} Transcript, Birthday Book : COLLINS (nee GEGG), Florist (0016) (Florist's biography page : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~owenjones/biogind/gegg/gegg_florist_0016-01.html#...). 1 February. Cit. Date: 25 October 2011. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source: "----- Collins 1914"
13{S0486}, Electoral Roll : Federal (Illawarra); NSW Division of Eden-Monaro; Sub-Division : Moss Vale. Cit. Date: 28 November 2011. Assessment: Primary evidence.
14{S0487}, Electoral Roll : Federal (Macarthur); NSW Division : Eden-Monaro; Sub-Division : Moss Vale. 1949. Cit. Date: 28 November 2011. Assessment: Primary evidence.
15{S0495}, Council Rates Log Extract : Goulburn : GEGG, James Albert (0017). Cit. Date: 4 February 2012. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source: "Common Street (west side from North Street) - Sinclair Street
1632; por 23/24; 39ac 2r; Walter Carey; dwelling; dairy"
This sheet is from rate records some time after both the Gegg and the Collins families had departed but establishes which blocks had the dwelling
16{S0320}, Newspaper : General. Cit. Date: before 1 July 2009. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Separate newspaper clippings reporting the deaths of both Florist and Harry state they arrived at "The Briars" in 1929.
17{S0210}, Photos : Various. Cit. Date: before 1 July 2009. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Notation on back of Photo : Gladys on "Trixie" at "The Briars" age 12 years. GCW
18{S0021}, Researcher : OWEN, John Edward (0001). Cit. Date: before 1 July 2009. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
The Beaconsfield St, Moss Vale dates are an estimate based on John's memory of what age he was when he used to visit them when he was a child plus there is a photo taken out the back of the premises which shows their son Norm aged about five. He was born in 1928 so an estimated date of c.1933 has been used. The Electoral Rolls have helped with more detail revealing their time at Parkes Rd. The two locations are quite near each other with Beaconsfield Rd terminating at Parkes Rd. The Beaconsfield Rd house was near the end of that road
19{S0321}, Letters : from COLLINS (nee GEGG), Florist Amelia (0016) to OWEN (nee COLLINS), Gladys Elizabeth (0009). Cit. Date: before 1 July 2009. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source: "We moved in last Tuesday".
The letter was written on Tuesday 11 May 1953; thus the previous Tuesday was 4 May
20{S0042}, Book Notation : "The Story of Victoria R.I. - Wife Mother Queen" : COLLINS, Gladys Elizabeth (0009). Cit. Date: before 1 July 2009. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Notation inside front cover : F A Collins, Common St, Goulburn
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The Story of Victoria R.I. - Front Cover Notation

21{S0052}, Eulogy : To KING (previously OWEN nee COLLINS), Gladys Elizabeth (known as Betty) (0009) (Read at Funeral of Betty King). Cit. Date: 15 September 2012. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Text From Source: "When she was about 10 or 11 the family moved to the Moss Vale area and lived for about three years at the house known as the Briars"
Aged 10 or 11 would indicate 1928/1929
22{S0623}, Electoral Roll : Federal (Macarthur); NSW State (Illawarra); Sub-Division (Moss Vale). Cit. Date: 13 September 2012. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Dot and Clyde were at Clyde's parents house from 1945 - 1949
23{S0066}, BDM (NSW) Online Indexs : Deaths (NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages Deaths Index : http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?SessionID=&event=...). Cit. Date: 14 August 2009. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
Registration no : 32290 / 1953
24{S0752}, Memorial Card : COLLINS (nee GEGG), Florist Amelia (0016). Cit. Date: 8 December 2013. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
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The front of Flo's memorial card

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The inside of Flo's memorial card

25{S0320}, Newspaper : General. Cit. Date: before 1 July 2009. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
26{S0756}, Headstone : COLLINS (nee GEGG), Florist Amelia (0016). Cit. Date: 9 December 2013. Assessment: Primary evidence.
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Flo's headstone in Albion Park cemetery

27{S0021}, Researcher : OWEN, John Edward (0001). Cit. Date: 8 August 2011. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source: "I remember her often talking with my mother about what she would do if she won the lottery"
28{S0321}, Letters : from COLLINS (nee GEGG), Florist Amelia (0016) to OWEN (nee COLLINS), Gladys Elizabeth (0009). Cit. Date: 8 August 2011. Assessment: Primary evidence.
29{S0470}, Letter : from COLLINS (nee GEGG), Florist (0016) to O'NEIL (nee COLLINS), Dorothy Selina (0089). Cit. Date: 8 August 2011. Assessment: Primary evidence.
30{S0338}, Lost Source. Cit. Date: before 1 July 2009. Assessment: Secondary evidence.

Compiler of this family history is : John Owen

              

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Updated : 23 Mar 2014