I received the following reply September 11, 2001 from Dennis Welty on the Alsace-Lorraine GenForum message #456:

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I came across the name Jacob Roop in Baltimore County Maryland in my Welty research. Frederick Decker and Jacob Roop were executers of the estate of Andrew Welty in 1774 who owned land near Manchester (now Carroll Co.) Maryland. In the administration accounts he is listed as Jacob Rupe.

In the 1768 list of signers for the removal of the county seat to Baltimore town are the names Michael Rub and Jacob Rub (five names down) along with Christian Daker and Andres Welti. Also in the 1773 list of taxables belonging to Pipe Creek Hundred is the name Jacob Rupe, Frederick Deker and Margaret Welty (widow of Andrew Welty). This info is from the book "Inhabitants of Baltimore County 1763-1774" by Henry C. Peden Jr.

In the church records of Zion Church (Protestant) in Manchester Maryland, Jacob and Barbara Rub were baptismal sponsors on Oct. 29, 1768 for Barbara, dau. of Bernhardt and Anna Maria Weinmann. Christian Weinmann and Barbara Rubin were also sponsors for the same couple in 1772. Jacob and Barbara Rub were also sponsors for Johannes and Anna Maria Schauer in 1776, Henrich and Anamarya Gottier in 1780 and Johannes Born in 1780. Jacob Rub and Magdalena Gottiern were sponsors for George Weber in 1781. Also Michl. and Magdl. Rupp gave birth to a dau An. Mar. in 1783 with Michl. and An. Mar. Ritter sponsors and to another dau. Maria Barbara in 1785 with George and Barbara Rubin Weber sponsors. Also Henry Rub and another Jacob Rub appear in later years as does Phil. Nonnenaker. This is from "Maryland German Church Records Volume 10".

In the church records of Evangelical Reformed Church in Frederick, Maryland, Jacob Rupp is on the list of communicants for Easter 1759 along with Christian Biller and Christoph Stoll. This is from "Maryland Church Records Volume 5.

These names are significant because on the ship Duke of Wirtenburg which arrived in Philadelphia in October 1752 are the names (in order) Hans George Gottle, Jacob (O) Bub, Christian Stahl and Christoff Fridrich Biller. You can draw your own conclusions. I hope this helps. Unquote:

I believe that Dennis has done some great research here. I will try to get more information on the ship Duke of Wirtenburg (various spellings have been seen). I have seen one list but understand that some ships had up to three different lists of passengers.

I have seen the Jacob Rupp that you mentioned and believe that he is Jacob Rupp who married Margaret Frey. See message #74 on this forum posted by Jim Dorthea RUPP KELLER 1753-1833.

Please note that the above Margaret Frey was NOT the wife of Martin Roop (1728-1801) of Shenandoah Co., VA. Martin was married to a Margaret and it has been erroneously assumed that she was Margaret Frey.

My ancestor, Johannes (Jean) George Rupp married Ursula von Petersholtz in what is now Ribeauville, Alsace. They emigrated on the Ship "Phoenix", which arrived Philadelphia on Friday 15 Sep 1749/50 from Cowes, Isle of Wright. The Phoenix brought foreigners from Zweybrech, Nassau, Wirttemberg and Palatinate. Also listed on that ship is a Jacob Rupp.

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According to Annette Kunselman Burgert's book "Eighteenth Century Emigrants from Northern Alsace to America" a Joh. Jacob Rubb (a.k.a. Jacob Rupp) came to America on an unknown ship in 1752. In the Zweibruecken Manumissions Protocoll, Cleeburg and Catharineburg: Jacob Rupp, his wife Maria Barbara Nonnenmacher, and their three children left Oberhoffen for America. This Jacob Rup, a German Protestant, was naturalized on 12 April 1771 in Baltimore, Maryland.

The three sons who came over with Jacob and his wife were: Johann Jacob b. 22 Dec 1747, Johann Michel b. 6 Apr. 1749, and Johann Martin b. 6 Mar. 1751. NOTE: In the Steinseltz Reformed Church Book the Johann Martin entry was crossed out; a line drawn through the name of the child. I do not know what the significance of this remark is. Burgert does not mention the names of children born in America. It is possible that Heinrich Thomas "Henry" Rupe/Roop (ca. 1765-1845), husband of Catherine Barbara Null, may be one of the children born to this couple. Henry has been linked to this family but I have not seen the documents that were used to prove this.

Other Rupps may be listed in Burgert's book but I do not have access to it. A lookup would be appreciated. This is not the only book that she wrote on emigrants. Also I would appreciate hearing from someone who knows where (possibly in Zweibruecken??) I can find the Zweibruecken Manumissions Protocoll. Zweibruecken would be on my way to Northern Alsace.

When I get to Oberhoffen and Steinseltz I will be concentrating on the church records and taking photographs of the area including the church and cemeteries. I expect that I will have to make several trips back as I decipher the old handwriting. This should not cause much of a problem as I have seen documents here in Luxembourg with similar handwriting. I am fluent in reading and understanding spoken German and French; I speak French but not German as I tend to mix in Luxembourgish when I try to speak it. Also it will probably take time to find all the documents from one generation to the next.

I also found a 4 year-old posting about 17 families who came from Alsace to America on the same ship in 1752. The families were: HAGELBARGER, SPECK, DOPPERT, ZIMMERMANN, HARR, WITTERICH, DIERY, DIERY, MUELLER, RUBB, KERN, KERN, KERN, SEYLER, BARTHEL, SCHMITT and HERRMAN. The Hagelbarger family came from Rott, a village about a mile from Oberhoffen. The information was found in: "A list of German Immigrants to the American Colonies from Zweibruecken in the Palatinate (1750-1771), edited by Dr. Friedrich Krebs, Archivist Speyer-am-Rhein, Germany (which appears in, "Pennsylvania German Immigrants (1709-1786) - List Consolidated from Yearbooks of The Pennsylvania German Folklore Society" edited by Don Yoder - 1984). It would be interesting to look up the above families in Burgert's book to see if there are any connections between the families. I believe that I will be able to find the Krebs book in a nearby German library. I have contacted the person who posted this information but have not had a reply. I would be very interested in finding out the name of the ship and the date and port of departure and arrrival.

Linked to Family: RUPE/ROTHGEB (F22)
David Perry Rupe
Franklin Sherman Rupe
George Washington Rupe
Jacob Henry RUPE
Jonathan Rupe
Joseph Rupe
William (Bill) Rupe

My RUPP family also came out of Leheigh Co., Penna. - previously from Alsace, Germany. Do we have a connection?

Chrystianna RUPP (GrGrandmother) m. David EVELAND - in Northumberland Co. Pa.- moved to Caroline Co., Maryland in 1880 - (I have their descendants in Maryland and Delware) d/o John RUPP 1819-1890 and Mary BACHMAN - Northumberland Co. Pa.
(GG Grparents) s/o George RUPP 1790-1870 and Elizabeth MOYER 1783-1851 Lehigh Co. Pa.
(GGG GRparents) s/o Johannes RUPP 1762-1870 and Margaret FLECKSER 1791-1834 - Lehigh Co. Pa.
(GGGG GR parents) s/o Johan Georg "George" RUPP 1721-1807 b. Lower Alsace, Ger. and Ursila VON PETERSHOLTZ 1723 - 1800 b. Upper Alsace, France (GGGGG GR parents) (They immigrated in 1750 to Lehigh Co - aka Northampton Co., Pa. in 1750) s/o Ulrich RUPP and Margarette HOLTZ bef 1699 - 1739 Germany (GGGGGG GR parents)

RuppJohn@aol.com wrote:
I'm sorry that I have nothing for you. My family came out of Leheigh Couny, PA in the latter 1700's. Before that, roots go to Alsace and Sigriswill, Switzerland.

Roop was a common spelling. Look for it. Try Census Records in 1820 and 1830 in all areas you can think of. Also, most counties in PA have some version of an historical society. You might try them.

1810 Federal Census: Lebanon Town, then Dauphin County,
now Lebanon Co 1810 Federal Census
1810 Annville Twp, Dauphin Co, PA

Taken from the 1810 Dauphin Co U.S. Census Rolls

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In 1810, there was only one Annville Township (which was created in 1798 from the western portion of Lebanon Township.) It was not until 1845 that this huge township was split into North Annville and South Annville Townships. In 1908, Annville Township (the town) was created from parts of both North Annville and South Annville townships.

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Names Free White Males Free White Females
10 16 26 45 +45 10 16 26 45 +45

Fred'k Bayley 2 1 4 1 1

Jacob Roop 3 1 1 1 2 1

Elias Smith 2 3 1 2 1 1

John Cox 4 1 1 2 1

John Rupp 3 2 1 2 1 1 1

Benj'n Mayer 9 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1

Herman Mayer 2 1 1 1 2 1

Magdalena Mayer 1 1 1 1

Martin Mayer 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 1

Henry Meyer 2 1 1 4 1 1

Adam Bayley 2 3 1 2 1 1

Christ'n Smith 2 1 1 2 1 1 1

Philip Striely(?) 3 1 1 1 1 1

Mich'l Mayer 4 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1

Jane Gregg 1 2 1 1 1 1

Jacob Hervey 2 1 1 1 1 1

Henry Mayer 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 1

Joseph Saunders 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1

Jacob Saunders 1 2 1 1 3 2 2 1

Jacob Saunders Jr 3 1 1 1 2 1 1

Philip Saunders 2 1 1 1 1 1

William Glen 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1

John Smith 3 2 1 2 5 1

David Marshall 2 1 1 1 1

George Hicks 2 1 1 2 1 1

Peter Smith 1 1 1 1 3 1 1

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