Robert John Orange had a joint wedding with his Sister Elizabeth Ann Orange who wed Henry Russell (Henry Russell and William Ballard were witness) ROBERT Orange minor bat, carver and gilder of Pitfield Street s/o ROBERT Orange weaver, to Elizabeth Saunders minor sp of New Gloucester Street d/o Robert Saunders sailor
Witness: Henry Russell and William Ballard (professional witness)

In 1849 Robert & Elizabeth had their first son Robert John Orange bn Bethnal Green

IN 1851 Elizabeth took her son Robert John Orange to her grandparents house in Folkestone - without her husband Robert Orange

Back in 1841 Elizabeth's grandparents Richard & Martha Godden were living in Folkestone, Kent: Living with them was Ann Golden actually her surname was"Golder"

1841 census HO107/477/28 Registration district: Elham Sub-registration district: Folkestone Folio: 19 Page: 30

Martha Godden abt 1779 Kent, England Folkestone Kent age 62
Richard Godden abt 1778 Kent, England Folkestone Kent Tailor age 63
***Ann Golden abt 1755 Kent, England Folkestone Kent "Ind" age 86
[Ann "Golder" was NEE JACOB...SEE BELOW - MARTHA GODDEN'S MOTHER]

RICHARD "Godden" & MARTHA "Golder" WED IN 1802; they had the following Children
Martha Jacobs GODDEN Born: 1804 Christened: 20 Jun 1804 Folkestone, Kent, Engl

Richard GODDEN Born: 1803 Christened: 11 Apr 1803 Folkestone, Kent, Engl

Catherine Large GODDEN Born: 1805 Christened: 8 Nov 1805 Folkestone, Kent, Engl

Stephen Golder GODDEN Born: 1807 Christened: 30 Mar 1807 Folkestone, Kent, Engl

Betsy Putter GODDEN Birth: 1809 Folkestone, Kent, Christening: 30 Jun 1809 Folkestone, Kent, England
[note: Elizabeth Orange nee Sanders' mother]

Father: Richard GODDEN Family Mother: Martha GOLDER

Ann GODDEN Pedigree Born: 1810 Place: Christened: 23 Nov 1810 Place: Folkestone, Kent, Engl

John GODDEN Pedigree Born: 1812 Place: Christened: 11 Sep 1812 Place: Folkestone, Kent, Engl

Stephen Golder GODDEN Born: 1814 Christened: 10 Aug 1814 Folkestone, Kent, Engl

David Puttee GODDEN Born: 1818 Christened: 16 Jan 1818 Folkestone, Kent, Engl

Elizabeth Orange nee Sanders parents
Robert SANDERS : Birth: 30 Apr 1806 Folkestone, Kent, Engl Christening: 30 Apr 1806 Folkestone, Kent, England
Father: Henry SANDERS Mother: Elizabeth GIDDENS
Marriage of : ROBERT SANDERS and Betsy Putter GODDEN On 8 Aug 1827 Greenwich, Kent, England

Robert and Betsy's children:
1. Henry SANDERS Born: 1832 Christened: 24 Aug 1832 Folkestone, Kent, Engl
NOTE: HENRY SANDERS WED 25 NOV 1856 HENRY married (wife unknown) and had a daughter:
Kate SANDERS (KATHRINE Birth: 1859 Dover Christening: 13 Aug 1859 St. James, Dover, Kent, England Death: 3 Mar 1903 Folkestone, Kent, England Burial: Folkestone Cemetery
Kate Sanders married James HARRIS Marriage: 1 Dec 1878 Folkestone, Kent, England
Parents OF James HARRIS: Father: John Thomas HARRIS Mother: Sarah SAUNDERS
JAMES HARRIS BORN: 14 Feb 1852 Folkestone, Death: 2 Jan 1910 Hitchim Hill Hospital, Folkestone, Kent, England Burial: Folkestone, Kent

KATE SANDERS AND JAMES HARRIS HAD THE FOLLOWING CHILDREN
1. James HARRIS Born: 26 Apr 1882 Folkestone, Kent, Engl Died: 5 May 1919
2. Fredrick William HARRIS Born: 29 Apr 1884 6 North Str. Folkestone, Kent, England Christened: 18 Jun 1884 Folkestone, Kent, England Died: 17 May 1953 9 Edward Terr., Folkestone, Kent, England Buried: Folkestone, Kent, England
3. William Thomas HARRIS Born: 11 May 1892 Folkestone, Kent, Engl Died: 28 Dec 1975
4. Georgina HARRIS Born: 25 May 1887 Folkestone, Kent, Engl
5. Harry James HARRIS Born: 15 Jul 1879 Folkestone, Kent, Engl Died: 5 Apr 1957
6. Kate HARRIS Born: 17 Aug 1890 Folkestone, Kent, Engl Died: 29 Jun 1943

ROBERT SANDERS and Betsy Putter GODDEN's other children:
2. Eliza SANDERS Born: 1827 Christened: 17 Oct 1827 Folkestone, Kent, Engl
[note:Elizabeth wed Robert John Orange 19 Sep 1847 Saint John The Baptist, Shoreditch] 3. Martha Golder SANDERS Born: 1830 Christened: 13 Apr 1830 Folkestone, Kent, Engl
4. Richard Godden SANDERS Born: 1834 Christened: 16 Oct 1834 Folkestone, Kent, Engl
5. Jane Golder SANDERS Born: 17 Oct 1851 Folkestone, Kent, Engl
6. Sarah Ann SANDERS Born: 23 Oct 1839 Folkestone, Kent, Engl
7. Ann Lewis SANDERS Born: 23 Feb 1855 Place: Greenwich, Kent, England
8. Catherine SANDERS Born: 2 Jun 1837 Folkestone, Kent, Engl
9. Thomas SANDERS Born: 22 Jun 1849 Folkestone, Kent, Engl
10. Robert SANDERS Born: 23 Aug 1844 Folkestone, Kent, Engl
11. Sussannah SANDERS Born: 30 Dec 1846 Folkestone, Kent, Engl

More About Elizabeth Orange nee Sanders' grandparents
RICHARD "Godden" & MARTHA "Golder"

RIC GODDEN Christening: 14 JUN 1778 Folkestone, Kent, parents = Ric Godden & Eliz
Parents: Richard GODDEN & ELIZABETH ? Father: Richard GODDEN Born: Abt. 1752 Folkestone, Kent Married Elizabeth: 11 Aug 1777

Richard GODDEN married Martha GOLDER on 20 Apr 1802 Folkestone, Kent, England

More about Martha Golder:
Father Stephens Golder Mother Ann Jacob [in 1841 Ann Golder nee Jacob is living with her dau Martha and son in law]
MORE ABOUT STEPHENS GOLDER: cHRIS 7 jUL 1754 FOLKESTONE FATHER: THOMAS GOLDER Birth: Abt. 1728 Folkestone, Kent STEPHENS GOLDER married 2 Feb 1748 (wife unknown)

MORE ABOUT ANN JACOB Birth: 7 Aug 1757 Folkestone, Kent, Engl Christening: 7 Aug 1757 Folkestone, Kent, England
[ Ann is living with her dau Martha in 1841]
Father: Phineas JACOBS Mother: Martha MIDDLEMASS
ANN JACOB marries Stephen GOLDER : 14 Nov 1778 Folkestone, Kent, England
Spouse: Stephens GOLDER Marriage: 26 Nov 1778
MORE ABOUT PHINEAS JACOBS Birth: 1725 Folkestone, Kent, Engl Christening: 16 Apr 1725 Folkestone, Kent, England
FATHER JOSEPH JACOBS MOTHER CATHRINE HARVEY

PHINEAS JACOBS WED MARTHA MIDDLEMASS ON 1 FEB 1747 ST PAULS CHURCH CANTERBURY, KENT
MORE ABOUT JOSEPH JACOBS Birth: Abt. 1729

JOSEPH JACOBS wed Cathrine HARVEY : 31 Jan 1720 Folkestone, Kent, England
MORE ABOUT CATHRINE HARVEY: Birth: 1731 Christening: 30 Nov 1731 Folkestone, Kent, England

MORE ABOUT MARTHA MIDDLEMASS
PHINEAS JACOBS WED MARTHA MIDDLEMASS ON 1 FEB 1747
Father: John MIDDLEMASS Mother: Hannah BAILEY John MIDDLEMASS Birth: Abt. 1701 Folkestone, Kent, England
Hannah BAILEY Birth: Abt. 1705 Folkestone, Kent, England

Census< 1851 - 16 Boreham Street Bethnal Green St Philips
ROBERT ORANGE Head married, age 22 Frame Maker bn Middx Bethnal Green.. His Wife Elizabeth has gone to stay with her grandparents in Folkestone

1851 Upper Sandgate Road Folkstone
Richard Godden head 72 Occ: Collector of Rates
Martha do 71 wife wife do do
Ann Lewis dau wid 40 – do do
Richard do un g.son 11 scholar Middx London Paddington
Martha G Abbot g.dau un 20 Kent Folkstone
Elizabeth Orange G.dau. m. 23 do do (nee sanders_)
Robert John do gt g.son un 2 Middx BG

More about Martha Abbot

Martha Jacobs Godden b 1804 chr 20 Jun 1804 Folkestone wed RICHARD ABBOTT ON 7 MAY 1827 FOLKESTONE [[Richard's parents were Jn Abbot and Esth. Richard chr 23 NOV 1803 Folkestone..His father Jn Abbott chr 17 FEB 1769 Folkestone and his parents were JN Abbott & Eliz

Martha Jacobs Godden & RICHARD ABBOTT had the following children:

*Martha Godden Abbott chr: 20 MAY 1830 Folkestone, Kent
ELIZ ABBOTT chr 12 SEP 1827 Folkestone
JANE GOLDER ABBOTT chr 11 SEP 1835 Folkestone,
RIC GODDEN ABBOTT chr 24 AUG 1838 Folkestone
ESTH AN ABBOTT chr 11 JAN 1832 Folkestone
MGT GODDEN ABBOTT 10 FEB 1837 Folkestone
CATH GODDEN ABBOTT chr 25 OCT 1833 Folkestone