LONDON
28 July 2006 - Grateful thanks to Bob Manchee for corresponding with me. It seems we are connected via Susannah nee Manchee..
JOSEPH ORANGE married SUSANNA MANCHEE on 09 APR 1798 at Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London. Joseph was the son of Pierre and Esther, born 03 Feb 1776, Webb Square, Bethnal Green, London, Middx.
Background on Susanna Manchée
Born: 22 Nov 1761, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Susannah's brothers & Sisters
Susannah's ancestoral line
grandparents: Daniel Manchée (b 1711) & Susanne De Joncourt (b 1697)
[Daniel christened: 28 Jan 1711, French Church, Threadneedle St, London
& married Susanne De Joncourt in 1735 in French Church, Threadneedle St, London - Susanne De Joncourt was christened on 12 Dec 1697.Daniel was a weaver & they resided in Spitalfields]
great grandparents: Samuel Manchée (b 1686) & Françoise Segret. [Samuel christened: 12 Dec 1686, French Church, Threadneedle St, London
& married Françoise Segret on 14 Sep 1707 in St Dunstan Stepney, Middlesex]
great x 2 grandparents: Daniel Manchée & Judithe Vecharte
Earliest Manchée record is the marriage of
Daniel Manchée to Judithe Vecharte in 1685 at the French Church on Threadneedle St, London.
They had a son Samuel (1686)
Other Susannah's in the Manchee tree
Of Joseph and Susannah's children Thomas John, Peter and John, had older cousins with the same names
Huguenot Connections
The first Manchee appears to have been a Huguenot, his name
anglicized from French, which many believe was de Monchy.....see the three articles on this subject on Bob Manchee's website.
History relating to Joseph Orange and Susannah's family
Joseph was christened 4 Mar 1776 St Leonards, Shoreditch, London-
and his trade, a cabinet maker
Their Children:
1st child: Susanna Ann born Feb 1799 christened 17 Feb 1799 St Matthew,
Bethnal Green - she married James Kerr in 1834
1805 both living at Curtains Road, St Leonards
1807 both living at New Inn Yard
1816 Joseph's occupation: cabinet maker
1818 Joseph's occupation:Cabinet maker of dunkirk court on Thos John & Peter's baptism record
1821: Cabinet maker of Woods Buildings (noted on Dau Caroline's baptism record
1832 Living at Cock Lane
1837: Living at York Street, Church street
1841 Census
Occupation, Cabinet Maker & Living at 15 Little York Street, Bethnal Green - Joseph Orange had one son still living at home, Thomas John, also a cabinet maker
1851 Census
Joseph was a widower (age 74) residing in Bethnal Green
(Susanna nee Manchee having died before the 1851 census)
Some of the information researched by the "OWG". [Stands for "orange working group"] Researchers working together in search of our ancestoral tree
Variations in Spellings
ENGLAND
Christened: 6 Dec 1761, St Matthew, Bethnal Green, London
Her parents, Daniel Manchée and Susannah De Cartigny. Daniel and Susannah married on 31 Mar 1755 in St Matthew, Bethnal Green, London. [ Daniel Born: 8 Mar 1736. His occupation, a master weaver of Spitalfields]
Daniel Manchee
Samuel Manchée
Sarah Manchee
[..Susannah Manchee]
Simon Peter Manchee
Thomas Manchee
James Manchee
John Manchee
Esther Manchee
William Manchée
Richard Manchee
Daniel (1711)
Daniel (1736) had a
daughter named Susannah, born 1761. (This is the Susannah believed to have wed Joseph Orange.. However, her birth date is a little early and more research needs to be done.. but she is the most likely candidate.
Susannah Manchee (1787) married John Charles Kay in 1810.
The remaining Susannah Manchee (1817) married Charles Langley in 1845.
2nd child: Ann [1801-1874]
3rd child: Joseph b1803
4th child: Mary Sophia b1805
5th child: John Timothy b 1807
6th child: Kitty b 1808
7th child: Susannah 1811
8th child: Rachel born b 1814
9th child: David born 1816
10th & 11th children "Twins": Peter and Thomas John, both christened in 1818
12th child: Caroline born 1821
All born Saint Matthew Bethnal Green, and Saint Leonards Shoreditch, London
Cartinie / Cartinier / Cottonier
Manch/ Manchee / Manchel / Menches
Susanna / Susannah / Susan / Suzenne
Orange / Orrange / Orenge / Prange /