Lyttelton Times, 22 June 1866, Page 2 SHIPPING
LYTTELTON. Arrived. June 21— John Temperley, ship, 976 tons, Liddle, from London.
Captain H. E. Reader, Mrs. Reader, child and nurse
Captain John Foster (late Commander Zealandia), Mr. J. Foster, junr.
Captain H. Powis, Mrs. Powis, Master William Powis, Master Alfred Powis, Miss Rose Powis
Mrs. C. Weir
Mr. E. H. Stanley
Mr. Chas. Odell
Mr. J. T. Boileau
and Dr. Young, Surgeon Superintendent.
Second cabin: Miss Jessie Dodd
Steerage: 13 married couples, 70 single women, 30 single men, and l2 children
Total in steerage, 144 souls equal to 135½ statue adults. For Government immigrants see below.
Arrival of the ship JOHN TEMPERLEY.— original passenger list on FamilySearch
The ship John Temperley, 976 tons, Ralph R. Liddle, Lieut. R.N.R., commander, left the Downs on Tuesday, 13th March, and had strong gales for about a week after leaving; then had fine moderate weather till passing Madeira on 28th March; after which, had steady N.E. trades to 4 N.; thence to the Equator had light variable winds; crossed the Equator on Thursday, April 12th, 30 days from the Downs; got S.E. trades in 0° 30' south, which were light and variable for the first three or four days; lost S.E. trades in 21 south; after which, had very variable winds till passing Tristran d'Acunha, on May 3rd. then had steadier winds; passed the meridian of the Cape on May 10th, 58 days from the Downs; after which, had very variable winds, with an unusually low barometer, till within a week's sail from the Snares, the wind sometimes veering twice round the compass in 24 hours; made the Snares on Saturday last at daylight, the next day— Sunday being off Otago; since then, been knocking about the coast, becalmed the greater part of the time. On the 27th and 28th ult., had a very heavy gale, beginning at N.E., and gradually veering to N.W.: lost several sails and part of the bulwarks, and had a boat stove. The whole of the passengers have enjoyed good health during the voyage. The vessel is consigned to Messrs. J. T. Peacock and Co. The following is a list of the Government immigrants by the John Temperley:— Families and children.
Farm Labourers- Reuben Withell, wife, and three children, Yorkshire
Josh. Bryant and wife, Essex
Daniel McVeigh, wife, and five children, Antrim
Patrick Byrne, wife and one child, Wicklow
Abraham Grigg and wife, Down.
Labourer—John McKenerny, wife, and one child, Limerick
Carpenters—Milson Beach and wife, Gloucestershire
John J. Fowler and wife, Hants
Cartwright—James Fraser, wife, and one child, Aberdeenshire
Baker—John Shields and wife, Cavan
Shoemakers—Henry Wm. Cole and wife, Middlessex
Farm Labourers—John Fraser, Banffshire; Henry John Thomas, Somersetshire; Alexander Calder, Banffshire; Thos. McMahon, Clare
Ploughmen—Bernard McGill, Antrim; David Munro, Ross-shire; Richard Smyth, Leitrim
Labourers—Joseph Shields, Cavan; James Grant, Armagh; Robert Condell, Wicklow; Teddy Fay, Clare; John Owns, Clare; Robert Dalzell, Down
Carpenter—Daniel McVeigh, Antrim
Sawyer—William Manson, Ross-shire
Baker—Joseph Leatham, Down
Printer—Jas. Joseph Bird, Middlesex
Watchmakers—Joseph Swindell, Middlesex
Domestic Servants — Jane Gray, Aberdeenshire; Cath. McVeigh, Elizth. McVeigh, Sarah McVeigh, Antrim; Mary Shanahan, Limerick; Emma Swindell, Mary Ann Swindell, Middlesex; Rachel Smyth, Leitrim; Hannah Buckett, Oxfordshire; Jane Redpath, Canada W.; Harriet Watts, Mary Ann Goulding, , Wiltshire; Ellen Fry, Mary Ann Pettitt, Mary Ann Hill, Emma Winterflood, Middlesex, [21, for Timaru]; Ellen Mayou, Berkshire; Amelia Binder, Middlesex; Ann Griffiths, Montgomeryshire; Rosa Keogh, Dublin; Margaret McRobert, Dublin; Lilhas Fyfe, Dumfrieshire: Margaret Warde, Galway; Catherine McAnulty, Ann Donnelly, Ellen Gough, Mary Gough, Tyrone; Eliza Kinley, Lizzie McCance, Elizabeth Thompson, Down; Ellen Gernet, Janet Grner, Anne Farr, Antrim; Elizabeth Whitten, Armagh; Mary Kane, Mary Cancannon, Mayo; Bridget Tooher, Bridget Read, Kings; Mary Welch, Kerry; Mary Quane, Limerick; Mary FitzGerald, Cork; Hannah Jonson, Dublin; Bridget Madden, Honora Ryan, Margaret Mahony, Tipperary; Catherine McGrath, Mary Wade Julia Morris, Mary Francis, Galway; Susannah Fulloon, Elizabeth Smyth, Eliza Gilbert, Antrim; Julia Bender, Middlesex.
Cooks.— Annie Walkins, Middlesex; Elizabeth Kirkwood, Edinburgh; Mary Cronin, Kerry Catherine McGill, Antrim.
Dairy Women.— Ellen Smyth, Leitrim, Ellen Moran, Tipperary, Mary Hennelly, Mayo, Mary Connell, Margaret Moran, Honor Fahy, Mary Naughlon Galway.
Needle Women.— Catherine Finne, Margaret Finne, Galway.
Nurses.— Harriet Tarrant, Berkshire, Annie M. Wilbee, Wiltshire [Anna 33]
Mary Shanahan, Limerick; Eliza Carr, Yorkshire; Hepzibah Leddra, Devonshire; Agnes Malcolm and Janet Malcolm, Lanarkshire.
SUMMARY, according to the trades and occupations of the immigrants:—
Farm labourers 9, ploughmen 3, labourers 7, carpenters 3, cartwrights 1, sawyers 1, shoemakers 1, bakers 2, printers 1, watchmakers 1.
Single Women—Domestic servants 53, cooks 4, dairy-women 7, needle-women 2, nurses 2, matron 1.
Male adults 29, female adults 85
male children 2, female children 5, infants 2.
Total souls 123, equal to l17½ statute adults.
Lyttelton Times, 11 December 1866, Page 2 MR SELFE ON THE IMMIGRATION OFFICE.
TO THE EDITOR OF THE LYTTELTON TIMES. Sir,— I forward to you the enclosed letter from Mr Selfe, the English agent. I think it would be interesting to the public to know Mr Selfe's views on the subject of emigration, and the conduct of the emigration department in London. Your obedient servant, w. S. Moorhouse. 15 St. George's Square, London, S.W.
1st October 1866, W. S. Moorhouse, Esq.,
My dear Sir, ...I have nothing to add to what he has told you as to the selection of the matron and surgeon, both of which seem to have been very unfortunate. ...But I would venture to remind you that it was the Provincial Government themselves who deliberately rejected the proposal originally made by Miss Rye in a letter addressed to Mr Superintendent Sealey to have a permanent staff of matrons attached to the Canterbury emigrant ships. This was in 1863. They discussed the question, went into calculations as to the cost, and informed the agent here that they declined to adopt the suggestion. ... there were five or six black sheep in the John Temperley, and the unfortunate coincidence of an inefficient matron an unsatisfactory surgeon in the same ship,... The single women in the John Temperley were 73 in number, 49 of them were from Ireland; 5 from Scotland and 19 from England. Does any sane man in Canterbury really suppose that girls from Antrim and Aberdeenshire are "forwarded to the chief office and inspected, to be rejected or returned if there be any suspicion that they are not first-class articles, like so many barrels of beef, or bottles of beer not equal to sample. Of course, none of the 54 Irish and Scotch girls were ever seen by Mr. Marshman till they were on board. Many of them were sent for by their friends in Canterbury, and described in the application as domestic servants. Several accompanied their parents or brothers. But in justice to the agents who forwarded the remainder, let it be remembered that all the evidence shews that the Irish and Scotch, girls behaved very well, (see the evidence of Captain Powys, Captain Liddle, and others.) The 'obstreperous,' bad,' 'disreputable girls—all those whose names are given in the evidence as bad, were among the 19 English girls. Now every one of these girls, I believe, or nearly every one, certainly every one from in or near London, was inspected by Mr. Marshman before he agreed to give them papers....
To say as the immigration officer has said, that of the female emigrants by the John Temperley "10 were prostitutes, and 4 ballet dancers," I do not hesitate to say, I believe to be a calumny; a gross exaggeration, which, even if anything like the truth, ought not to have found place in an official report, without evidence in support of the assertion.
You will forgive me for feeling and writing with some warmth. I know that those who serve the public must expect attack, and ought not to be thin-skinned. You know, dear sir, from personal experience, what it is to be the mark for harsh comment you have felt to be unjust, and a man must be pachydermatous indeed if he does not wince under imputations of neglect and inefficiency when he is conscious of having taken the greatest pains to discharge his duty faithfully, and when he knows that under the conditions by which he is restricted, it could not have been done better. Mr. Marshman may not choose to say this for himself;
You will use, of course, your own discretion as to the contents of this letter. I should certainly be glad that the substance of it was known to any or all who take an interest in the subject. H. S. Selfe.
Passenger list transcribed and Commissioners Report
Cleared. August 10 — John Temperley, s.s., 976 tons, R.R. Liddle, [age 31] for China. The ship John Temperley, Captain Liddle, cleared at the Custom's yesterday for China. She is expected to sail this day, should the weather prove favourable.
Births 1872/29801 Dorn George Margaret George 1874/36991 Dorn Lucy Margaret Georgina Margaret George Woodford 1876/3166 Dorn Mary Ann Margaret George Woolfard 1873/41519 Dorn Catherine Catherine Charles James 1875/14148 Dorn Florence Catherine Charles James 1877/12818 Dorn Thomas Charles Catherine Charles 1879/17389 Dorn William Henry Catherine Charles James 1881/12466 Dorn Fanny Maria Catherine Charles James 1883/11957 Dorn George John Catherine Charles James 1885/16937 Dorn Lucy Beatrice Catherine Charles James 1886/18433 Dorn Arthur James Catherine Charles James 1890/15412 Dorn Percy Cyril Catherine Charles James
Press, 9 August 1873, Page 1
ON AND AFTER THIS DATE I will NOT BE RESPONSIBLE for any DEBTS CONTRACTED by my WIFE, Margaret Dorn. GEORGE WOOLFOBD DORN, Montreal street south, Christchurch.
Press, 28 July 1877, Page 4
Assault. The charge against George W. Dorn v Margaret Dorn, on bail, for assault, was further adjourned to the 9th August.
Press, 28 December 1878, Page 5
Breaking into a dwelling. Margaret Dorn was charged with breaking into the house of Mr. W.A. Toke and stealing sundry articles there from. Mr W. A. Toke living in Madras street, said the prisoner had been employed in his house two days charing. On Christmas Day, he went out between 11 and 12 o'clock noon, no one being left on the premises. He returned shortly before nine o'clock, and found the cellar door broken open and some porter abstracted from a barrel. Elizabeth the wife of the last witness, said the prisoner had been employed by her. Witness was absent with her husband on Christmas Day and left no one in the house which was fastened up. On returning, she found the house described as described by the last witness open; and she missed some bacon, a quantity of eggs, and some porter but out of a barrel which she had left in the morning. Witness to Detective Walker, and accompanied him to the Armagh street barracks, where the, prisoner lived. There she found came plates and ribbon, which she identified as her property. Prisoner was then taken into custody and admitted to the witness that she had taken the property, and begged for forgiveness. She had been instigated by another woman. Jane Smith, servant to the last witness, identified a Maori kit produced as the property of her mistress, also a bottle containing tea. Elizabeth Fraser living at the Refuge in Armagh street, deposed that the prisoner left it about noon on Christmas day, and returned about a quarter of an hour afterwards. In the evening she (prisoner) cooked some bacon and eggs, and also produced two bottles of porter. She was sentenced to six months' imprisonment with hard labor.
CANTERBURY MOUNTED RIFLES
Dorn, PERCY CYRIL, P. C, 7/14545, Corporal. (C. J. Dorn, West Oxford, f.)
Lyttelton Times, 5 January 1865, Page 4
Jan. 4, Eastern Empire, ship, 1768 Ferguson, from London. Passengers: Mr. St. Leger Lousada, Mr G.S. Mitchell, surgeon-superintendent; Miss Everett, matron. (For list of Government immigrants, see below)
Carpenter - George Dorn, 17, single, Surrey
Bricklayers — Charles Dorn, 17, Surrey.
Elizabeth Dorn, Middlesex
From: John Meyers
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 10:06 PM
Subject: [nz] Looking for Margaret Dorn nee Finn
Two Dorn brothers married two Finn sisters in New Zealand. Catherine Finn
married Charles James Drn in 1873 and Margaret Finn married George Woolford
Dorn in 1871.
Searching for more information about Margaret Dorn nee Finn. She was born in
Galway Ireland abt 1848. Cant find out her travels to NZ.
Major challenge is finding her death. Husband GW Dorn died in Murrumburrah
New South Wales in 1882.
Any help or advice would be appreciated.
John Meyers in New South Wales
From: "SOMERS" <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-NEW-ZEALAND] Finding Dorn family
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:41:13 +1300
Do you have the following information?
William Henry DORN married Edith Ella GARDNER 1927
He was a Baker in Oxford, North Canterbury.
Henry Soloman MEYERS married Matilda LEWIS 1867
There are two people who are also researching the DORN name via the First Families Collection at NZSG
Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Record Type M/I
Year of Death 1931
Given Names William Henry
Location Oxford Public Cemetery Q 05.01
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