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"Central Asia is revealed to be an important reservoir of genetic diversity, and the source of at least three waves of migration, leading into Europe, the Americas and India." Modern humans migrated out of Africa into Central Asia before spreading both east and west into North America and Europe, says an international team of scientists who have used modern DNA analysis to trace ancient migrations. "Around 40-50,000 years ago, [approximately 2000 generations] Central Asia was full of tropical trees, a good place for hunting and fishing," said Nadira Yuldasheva of the Institute of Immunology at the Academy of Sciences, Tashkent, Uzbekistan. "Then, as desertification came in, some people moved west into Europe and some moved into Siberia, [India] and on into North [and South] America." (1) Dr. Spencer Wells; Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics, Oxford, UK: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The above quote is from Sciforums.com.
In Germany: 40,451 individuals carry the surname Lorenz. The surname Lorenz is the 58th most frequent surname in Germany. More than 5 % of Germans with the surname Lorenz live in Lower Saxony.
The LORENZ family discussed below is from Schönlind bei Heinrichsgrün (Schönlind - Market) (Schönlind bei Falkenau) (Krasna Lipa near Jindrichovice) 83.3 miles WNW of Prague in the Czech Republic at coordinates - 5019 1237. This area of Bohemia (Czech Republic) has also been described as the Sudetenland. A total of five Schönlind's have been located in the Czech Republic. All are between 55-93 miles from Prague: 1. 56.4 miles North of Prague; 2. 55.8 miles WNW of Prague; 3. 83.3 miles WNW of Prague; 4. 80.5 miles West of Prague; and 5. 93.2 miles West of Prague.
German Place Names from a 16th Century Czech Register: Medieval to Modern Index refers to Schönlindt - Schönlind bei Eger or Schönlind bei Falkenau confirming the existence of two Schönlind's in the Pilsen (Plzeň) district of the Czech Republic during the period 1543 to 1579. Schönlind bei Eger is 93.2 miles West of Prague at coordinates - 5002 1222 and 2.3 miles South of (Eger) Cheb. Schönlind bei Falkenau - Schönlind bei Heinrichsgrün (Schönlind - Market) (Krasna Lipa near Jindrichovice) is 83.3 miles WNW of Prague in the Czech Republic at coordinates - 5019 1237. Falkenau, coordinates 5011 1238, is 9.2 miles South of Schönlind bei Heinrichsgrün (Schönlind - Market) (Krasna Lipa near Jindrichovice).
JOSEPH LORENZ, our earliest known ancestor, lived in Vogeldorf (Ptaci) coordinates - 5020 1238, 1.4 miles NNE of Schönlind, coordinates - 5019 1237. Schönlind bei Falkenau - (Schönlind - Market) Schönlind bei Heinrichsgrün, (Krasna Lipa near Jindrichovice) 83.3 miles WNW of Prague, was first mentioned in 1508 and Vogeldorf 1555 in connection with the founding of a glass-hut or glass manufacturing facility. The village around the glass-hut was developed later. Schönlind was a very small dominion headed by a tribe of the Schlick family.
* Source: Reinhold Erlbeck.
* Source: Kathy Compagno.
* Source: Kathy Compagno.
* Source: Reinhold Erlbeck and Kathy Compagno.
Originally, this LORENZ family must have descended from “the Franks [who] were one of several west Germanic tribes who entered the late Roman Empire from Frisia as foederati and established a lasting realm in an area that covers most of modern-day France and the region of Franconia in Germany, forming the historic kernel of both these two modern countries.” (2) The below links are a genealogical resource for our LORENZ family written by KATHERINE BERTSCH COMPAGNO: Copyright 2005, All Rights Reserved, and photographs of the LORENZ ancestral villages taken September 2007. The above quote is from Franks.
Coat of Arms: A blue shield with a silver stripe and a boar.
"Origin Displayed: German.
Spelling variations include: LORENTZ, LORRENTZ, LORENZ, LORENTZEN (HOLSTEIN), LAURENZ, LAURENS, LAVERENZ, LAFRENZ, LEWERENZ, LOHRENSON, LORNSEN, LORANT, LORINCZ and many more.
First found in Hessen, where the family became noted for its many branches within the region, each house acquiring a status and influence which was envied and enrolled by the princes of the region.
Some of the first settlers of this name or some of its variants were: GEORG LORENZ, who came to Germantown, Pennsylvania in 1694; as did HEINRICH LORENZ in 1701; and JOHANNES LORENTZ, who came to New York City in 1709. Numerous bearers of the name LORENZ also came to Texas in the 1840s and 1850s, including TRAUGOTT LORENZ, CHRISTINE LORENZ, and JOHANN HEINRICH LORENZ with his wife ANNA CATHARINA REINKEN and their three children." (3) The above quote is from House of Names.com.
LORENZ has been used as a German male first name. It is the German form of LAURENTIUS or LAURENCE. LAURENCE is the English form of the name derived "from the Roman cognomen Laurentius, which meant "of Laurentum". Laurentum was a city in ancient Italy, its name probably deriving from Latin laurus "laurel". Saint Laurence was a 3rd-century deacon and martyr from Rome. According to tradition he was roasted alive on a gridiron because, when ordered to hand over the church's treasures, he presented the sick and poor." (4) The above quote is from Behind the Name.
"Sudetenland is a term for the German settlement area of the Bohemian Lands (Bohemia, Moravia, Austrian Silesia), used only sporadically before 1918. The German ethnic group in Bohemian Lands with approximately 3.5 million citizens was named ca. since the beginning of 20C as "Sudetendeutsche" (Sudeten Germans), before German-Bohemians, Austrians, etc. The Bohemian Lands were until 1918 part of the Austrian Monarchy. 1918-1938 Sudetenland was part of Czechoslovakia. After the "Münchner Abkommen" (The Munich Agreement), 1938, Sudetenland was the official term (1938-1945) for the Reichsgau Sudetenland. After the end of WWII Sudetenland was again reintegrated into Czechoslovakia and its German ethnic group was expelled." (5) The above quote is from Sudetenland.
* From the Collection of JOSEPHINE LORENZ LIGHTNER at Dayton, Ohio: The following "postcards were found in the Collection of JOSEPHINE LORENZ LIGHTNER and are known to be of our actual ancestral village, Schönlind," (6) coordinates - 5019 1237, which was 83.3 miles WNW of Prague.
* Source: Kathy Compagno.
The following map is the area of Schönlind bei Heinrichsgrün (Krasna Lipa near Jindrichovice) 83.3 miles WNW of Prague that includes the towns in the Czech Republic of Rothau, coordinates - 5018 1235, 1.9 miles SW of Schönlind, coordinates - 5019 1237, Ptaci (Vogeldorf) coordinates - 5020 1238, 1.4 miles NNE of Schönlind, coordinates - 5019 1237, Graslitz, coordinates - 5020 1231, 4.6 miles WNW of Schönlind, coordinates - 5019 1237, Neudek, coordinates - 5020 1245, 6 miles E of Schönlind, coordinates - 5019 1237, and Neu-Hammer, coordinates 5022 1244, 6.2 miles NE of Schönlind, coordinates - 5019 1237.
* Source: Reinhold Erlbeck
Two maps of the Schönlind, Vogelgorf, Bohemia (Austria) (Czech Republic) area 83.3 miles WNW of Prague are listed below. The four photograhs, however, are the location of Schönlinde (Krasna Lipa) 56.4 miles North of Prague.
Prior to 1918, the region of Bohemia, Moravia, and Austrian Silesia were part of the Austrian Empire. "The duchy of Franconia (Herzogtum Franken) consisted in early medieval times of the river Main region, the central Rhine river area (roughly Worms - Cologne) and Hesse. [The] history [of] Franconia, one of the five tribal duchies of Germany, was founded in the ninth century. Its name was derived from the Franks who settled there early in the Middle Ages. It later split into West-Franken or Rhein-Franken (around the city of Mainz) and East- or Main-Franken (around the city of Würzburg). Since about 1200 AD the name "Franken" was only applied to the Main-Franken-part. Most of this area passed to Bavaria on the dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire in 1803-1806. Franconia was then divided into three administrative districts: Upper Franconia (Ober Franken), Lower Franconia (Unter Franken), and Middle Franconia (Mittel Franken). They now form the northern segment of the state of Bavaria." (7) The above quote is from Franconia/Franken.
Below is a postcard of Schönlinde, Bohemia (Krásná Lípa) (Austria) (Czech Republic) 56.4 miles North of Prague, coordinates: 5054 1431. Schönlinde, (Krásná Lípa) dates to 1361. Thirty German families from Upper Franken where asked to colonize the area by the descendants of the Lords of Lipa. In 1857 a large part of the city burned and in the Austrian - Prussian War of 1866 a part of the Prussian Army with 2000 men was quartered in Schönlinde. A history of the town can be found at http://www.krasnalipa.cz/en/mesto.htm. "This undated postcard shows the southwestern corner of the market square with the present-day museum and the adjacent part of the town with the main road to Chøibská. In the background are the peaks of the Lusatian range with the Mt. Jedlová (left). A postcard from the collection of Mr. Stanislav Kopecký." (8) This Schönlinde pictured is not, however, the location of Schönlind bei Heinrichsgrün (Krasna Lipa near Jindrichovice) 83.3 miles WNW of Prague from which our LORENZ ancestors lived before coming to the United States. The above quote is from Krasna Lipa.
Schönlinde: Report No. 314 - Young people murdered, deportation camp, rape. Reported by: N. N. Report of 3 July 1950.
"Our home town Schönlinde [56.4 miles North of Prague] is 6 km away from the Saxon border. It was a totally German town, with all of 17 Czech inhabitants. In June 1945 the first expulsion took place, of 1,500 German businessmen, teachers and officials. Each family was allowed to take as much clothing and linen as they could carry, but everything that was new and nice was confiscated during the body search conducted at the outskirts of the town. Then they were driven out in long, pitiful treks, urged on with whip lashes and blows from rifle butts, to the border via the longest possible detour, 25 km via Dittersbach. Naturally most of the expellees had to leave the rest of their possessions lying by the wayside when they became too exhausted to carry them further. All the prominent male inhabitants were arrested, including Dr. Petzold the chief surgeon from the hospital, and were brutally beaten every day and forced to do the most demeaning work. Water and bread was all they got to eat. The Mayor and his family, a doctor, and many others put an end to their torment by committing suicide. Weeks later, the prisoners were taken to the infamous concentration camp Rabstein near Bohemian Kamnitz. I want to mention one case in particular, namely the Köhler family. The father and his two 17-year-old sons (twins) were arrested. The two boys were inhumanly beaten, and trampled with boots, until they showed no more signs of life; their father was forced to watch the torture until his sons were dead. A short time later he too was finished off.
In July a second wave of expulsions from Schönlinde was carried out, accompanied by the same maltreatment. In the meantime a similar kind of trek, 2,400 people, arrived from Warnsdorf, which was located right by the border; nonetheless the people were herded via Schönlinde to Hermsdorf, a distance of 27 km. On three-wheeled handcarts, wheelbarrows and the like, they carted their ill and elderly family members to their wretched fate. So that we would not get in their way, we were removed to the Czech interior, as labor slaves. We were taken to the limestone quarry of Biskup near Prague. We were actually treated and housed very decently there. But after six months, orders arrived from the government to send us to the Modrany camp, and from there to the infamous concentration camp Lesany, known as "the Green Hell", where we were exploited as camp laborers for 9 months. Families were torn apart, and anyone who was unable to work almost starved to death. Fleeing from the Russians, many Silesians passed through parts of the Sudeten region on their way to West Germany. 15,000 of them were separated from their treks, brought here and robbed of their last few possessions, and then left to perish from starvation-related typhus. The huge camp cemetery with its thousand crosses speaks volumes. In spring 1947 we were sold to the farmers as work slaves, the price was some bacon and butter. A government decree stipulated that all Germans had to work from 5 o'clock in the morning until 10 p.m., for regular prison rations. We were sent to the farmer Jirsa in Pelec, District Kamenice. We had to work 16 hours a day under constant guard, as did my school-aged children. Black coffee and dry bread was all we got. In the winter we had to chop wood in the forest while the children stripped feathers. They were not allowed to go to school.
In May 1945, 7 members of the Wehrmacht had been nailed to the farmer's gate and tortured to death. His neighbors testified to it. Two Silesian girls, sisters aged 18 and 20, were left to the Russians' tender mercies every day after they returned from their field work. After 11 months of heavy labor I managed to be transferred to a brickworks, where we were treated quite a bit better. In autumn 1948 we were brought back to Lesany, where we were robbed of our hard-earned bit of cash and then expelled to Saxony." (9) The above quote and graphic from Documents on the Expulsion of the Sudeten Germans.
Also in 1945, in Schönlind, 83.3 miles WNW of Prague, ANTON LORENZ “was amongst the ten innocent people who were cruelly killed” by Czechs after the surrender of the German military according to a Reinhold Erlbeck e-mail of 15 March 2007. (10) The following inscription is from the daughter of one of these ten murdered civilians: "Liebe ist starker als Hass," (Love is stronger than Hate).
Kohling, Schindelwald, Schönlind: Maltreatment, Executions - Reported by: Karl Sandner. Report of December 5, 1945.
"In Kohling and Schindelwald, two towns in Neudek District of the Sudetengau, ten men were shot after the unconditional surrender of the German Reich. These men were arrested by the Czechs, and maltreated. They were beaten bloody. In one case, a picture of Hitler had been found in a closet when the man in question was arrested, and the Czechs forced him to eat it [the photo]. The ten men were arrested on a Monday (I no longer recall the exact date) in Schönlind, Neudek District, [83.3 miles WNW of Prague] and were to be taken to Neudek on Tuesday. In the truck, which was manned all round by Czechs, they had to lie on their stomachs so that the townspeople wouldn't see how they were being maltreated. On the way to Neudek, a Czech motorcyclist came towards us and issued different orders. They drove back to Schönlind [83.3 miles WNW of Prague] again, and that same evening they had to dig their own graves. Wednesday morning, around 5 or 6 o'clock, they were shot after all. Their kin were forbidden to visit the grave, and were chased away by the Czechs standing guard there." (11) The above quote and graphic from Documents on the Expulsion of the Sudeten Germans.
* Schönlind [83.3 miles WNW of Prague] Haushaltungsliste, 1945.
* Source: Reinhold Erlbeck and transcribed by Kathy Compagno.
The Köhling bei Schönlind map indicates (lower left) where Anton Garreis and Leo Kunzmann died (murdered) the morning of 6 June 1945. Josef Friedl, possibly related to the Friedl and Lorenz family of Schönlind, was from Köhling emigrating to the United States in 1903.
* Source: Dr. John C. Friedl, D. O.
* Source: Reinhold Erlbeck.
MATTHES LORENZ from Bockau, Saxony, Germany was born about the year 1440. Vogeldorf, Czech Republic, coordinates 5020 1238, is 15.2 miles S of Bockau, coordinates 5033 1242, 139.1 miles SSW of Berlin.
JOSEF LORENZ, the son of THOMAS LORENZ, was christened on 3 May 1549 in Gruenhain (Grunhain), Zwickau, Saxony, coordinates 5035 1249, is 135.8 miles S of Berlin. Vogeldorf, Czech Republic, coordinates 5020 1238, is 19.1 miles SSW.
MICHAEL LORENTZ was born about the year 1634 in Neugruen, Falkenau, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria marrying about the year 1659 in Neugruen, Falkenau, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria. MICHAEL LORENTZ and wife had the following child: PHILIP LORENTZ christened 14 October 1660 in Neugruen, Falkenau, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria. Ober Neugrun and Unter Neugrun (Lower and Upper) coordinates - 5015 1238, was 4.7 miles S of Schönlind, coordinates - 5019 1237, which was 83.3 miles WNW of Prague. Falkenau, coordinates 5011 1238, was 9.2 miles S of Schönlind, coordinates - 5019 1237, which was 83.3 miles WNW of Prague.
GEORGE LORENTZ was born about the year 1635 in Lanz, Falkenau, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria marrying about the year 1660 in Lanz, Falkenau, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria to a woman born about 1639 in Lanz, Falkenau, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria. Lanz, coordinates - 5013 1239, was 7.1 miles SSE of Schönlind, coordinates - 5019 1237, which was 83.3 miles WNW of Prague. Falkenau, coordinates 5011 1238, was 9.2 miles S of Schönlind, coordinates - 5019 1237, which was 83.3 miles WNW of Prague.
MARTIN LORENZ, the son of JOHANN LORENZ, was born about 1637 marrying ANNA WERNER, the daughter of WOLFGANG WERNER of Werth, on 15 Nov 1667 in Gossengrun, Bohemia (Krajkova). Gossengruen (Gossengrun) coordinates 5013 1232 is located 9.2 miles SSW of Vogeldorf. MARTIN LORENZ and ANNA WERNER had the following children: 1. JOHANN LORENZ born on 7 Oct 1668 in Plumberg, Bohemia; 2. BALTHASAR LORENZ born 21 Jan 1670 in Plumberg, Bohemia; 3. GEORG LORENZ born 15 Feb 1672 in Plumberg, Bohemia; 4. MATTHAUS LORENZ born 3 Oct 1674 in Plumberg, Bohemia; 5. EVA MARIA LORENZ born 19 Feb 1676 in Plumberg, Bohemia; 6. SUSANNA MARIA LORENZ born 18 Nov 1677 in Plumberg, Bohemia; 7. SIMON LORENZ born 4 March 1679 in Plumberg, Bohemia married SUSANNA MAYER on 30 Oct 1708 in Gossengrun dying 17 Feb 1753 in Hartenberg, Bohemia at the age of 73; 8. ANNA LORENZ born 27 Dec 1681 in Plumberg, Bohemia.
ANDREAS LORENTZ was born about the year 1639 in Elbogen, Elbogen, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria marrying MARIA SCHUERER on 2 NOV 1664 Lanz, Falkenau, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria. MARIA SCHUERER was born about the year 1643 Doglasgruen, Elbogen, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria. Elbogen, coordinates 5011 1245, is located 11.6 miles SSE of Vogeldorf and Doglasgruen, coordinates 5015 1242, is 6.5 miles SSE of Vogeldorf.
SUSANNA LORENTZ was born about the year 1659 in Scheft, Neudek, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria. Scheft, coordinates - 5018 1240, was 2.5 miles ESE of Schönlind, coordinates - 5019 1237, which was 83.3 miles WNW of Prague. Neudek, coordinates - 5020 1245, 6 miles E of Schönlind, coordinates - 5019 1237.
ANNA MARIA LORENTZ was born about the year 1697 in Schönlind, Neudek, Boenmen, Austria. Nejdek (Neudek) coordinates 5020 1245 is 5.1 miles E of Vogeldorf.
JOHANN MICHAEL LORENTZ was born about the year 1714 in Rothau, Graslitz, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria. Rothau, coordinates - 5018 1235, was 1.9 miles SW of Schönlind, coordinates - 5019 1237, which was 83.3 miles WNW of Prague. Ptaci (Vogeldorf) coordinates - 5020 1238, was 1.4 miles NNE of Schönlind (Krasna Lipa) at coordinates 5019 1237 and Graslitz, coordinates - 5020 1231, was 4.6 miles WNW of Schönlind (Krasna Lipa) at coordinates 5019 1237.
JOHANN LORENTZ was born about the year 1716 in Schönlinde, Neudek, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria. Nejdek (Neudek) coordinates 5020 1245 is 5.1 miles E of Vogeldorf.
JOHANN LORENZ was born about the year 1718 of Nejdek, Czechoslovakia married about the year 1749 of Schönlinde, Nejdek, Czechoslovakia to a woman born about the year 1722 of Nejdek, Czechoslovakia whose name remains unknown. To this union was born JOSEPH GEORG LORENZ about the year 1750 of Schönlinde, Nejdek, Czechoslovakia. He married KATHARINA RUDERT on 6 Nov 1775. Nejdek (Neudek) coordinates 5020 1245 is 5.1 miles E of Vogeldorf.
JOSEPH LORENTZ was christened on 4 May 1718 in Prausnitz, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria the son of FREIDRICH LORENTZ and his wife MARIA.
ANNA MARIA LORENZ was born about the year 1722 in Griesbach, Elbogen, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria marrying JOHANN MODER about 1743 Griesbach, Elbogen, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria. Griesbach, coordinates - 5016 1241, was 4.5 miles SE of Schönlind, coordinates - 5019 1237, which was 83.3 miles WNW of Prague.
JOHANN CAROLUS LORENTZ was born about the year 1723 in Schönlinde, Neudek, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria marrying MARIA ELISABETH HOYER, born about the year 1727 in Rothau, Graslitz, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria, on 29 April 1749 in Henrichsgruen, Graslitz, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria.
ANTONY LORENTZ born about the year 1740 in Schönlinde, Neudek, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria marrying ANNA MARIA PLECHSCHMID on 4 February 1766 in Rothau, Graslitz, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria. ANNA MARIA PLECHSCHMID was born about the year 1744 in Rothau, Graslitz, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria.
FRANZ LORENZ was born about the year 1769 in Neudorf, Graslitz, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria marrying MARIA ANNA KEILWERTH, born about the year 1773 in Neudorf, Graslitz, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria, about the year 1794 in Neudorf, Graslitz, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria.
JOSEPH ANTON LORENZ was born about the year 1814 in Schönlinde, Neudek, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria marrying KATHARINA OBENDOERFER about the year 1839 in Waldl, Falkenau, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria. Waldl, coordinates 5014 1238, is 6.9 miles S of Vogeldorf.
FRANZ YAVER LORENZ was christened on 27 Nov 1852 in Scheft, Neudek, Boehmen, Koenigreich, Austria the child of JOSEPH KARL LORENZ and THERESIA ROSSMEISSL.
Original research and document translations at Pilsen Archive in the Czech Republic provided by Christine Obermeier, Familien Geschichts Forschung, Haus-und Hofchroniken, Wasenmeistereien in Westböhmen, e:mail: firstname.lastname@example.org.
Fifth great grandfather, on my mother's side, JOSEPH LORENZ of Vogeldorf (Czech name: Ptaci - No longer exists as a municipality) had a son JOSEPH LORENZ, fourth great grandfather, born in Vogeldorf, 1769. JOSEPH LORENZ, born Vogeldorf 1769, married ANNA MARIA FRANZISKA RUDOLPH born 2 Aug 1773 in Schieferhutten the daughter of CHRISTOPHE and MARIA SUSANA RUDOLPH. Vogeldorf belonged to the old manor Schönlind and is 1.4 miles to the NNE. Vogeldorf's (Ptaci) coordinates are 5020 1238.
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 19, Page 2, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
JOSEPH LORENZ, son of JOSEPH LORENZ (dead) from Vogldorf # 2, 20 years old, single, married FRANZISKA RUDOLPH, daughter of CHRISTOPH RUDOLPH in Muehlhaeuser, 18 years old, single. Witness: RUDOLPH JOSEPH SPITZENHAENDLER in Schönlind and MICHL Hß: HERGET, house owner in Kohling.
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 6, Page 14, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
PHILIPP LORENZ, legitimate son of JOSEPH LORENZ, house owner of Vogldorf # 2 and FRANZISKA nee RUDOLPH from Schieferhuetten, 25 years old, single married MARIA ANNA, legitimate daughter of JOSEPH MOESCHEL, house owner of Vogldorf # 28 and THERESIA SCHOEDL from Schönlind, 23 years old, single. Witness: WENZL RUDOLPH SPITZENHANDLER from Schieferhuetten and GEORG MOESCHEL, house owner in Vogldorf.
PHILIPP LORENZ has a brother FRANZ XAVER born 30 July 1834 in Schönlind # 74 and WENZL LORENZ has a brother PHILIPP living in Vogldorf # 2.
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 6, Page 12, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
* MARIA ANNA LORENZ, legitimate daughter of JOSEPH LORENZ (dead), farmer of Vogldorf # 2, and FRANZISKA nee RUDOLPH from Muehlhausen, 19 years old, single (sister of WENZL) married ANTON PLEYER, son of ANDREAS PLEYER (dead), farmer from Kohling # 27 and KATHARINA nee OTT from Kohling, 24 years old, single.
* This MARIA ANNA LORENZ is the daughter of JOSEPH LORENZ born in 1769.
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 19, Page 3, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
* MARIA ANNA LORENZ, daughter of JOSEPH LORENZ (dead), house owner of Vogldorf # 2, 29 years old, single married KARL HERGETH, house owner and day-labourer in Muehlhaeuser, 51 years old, widower. Witness: ANTON LORENZ, house owner in Vogldorf and JOHANN HERGETH, house owner in Muehlhaeuser.
* This MARIA ANNA LORENZ is the sister of JOSEPH LORENZ born in 1769. She is the daughter of JOSEPH LORENZ whose estimated birth is between 1730-50.
* Source: Kathy Compagno.
JOSEPH'S son FRANZ WENZEL LORENZ born in the 1800's married TERESIA SCHOEDL born in the 1800's the daughter of JOSEPH and MARIA ELIZABETH (FRIEDL) SCHOEDL.
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 1, Page 6, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 1, Page 157, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
Third great grandfather, on my mother's side, WENZEL LORENZ, house owner of Schönlind # 74, was born in Vogldorf # 2, the legitimate son of JOSEPH LORENZ (dead), house owner in Vogldorf and FRANZISKA nee RUDOLPH from Schieferhuetten married THERESIA SCHOEDL, born in Schönlinde # 4, the legitimate daughter of JOSEPH SCHOEDL, joiner master and house owner and MARIA ELISABETH nee FRIEDL from Schönlind # 4. WENZEL LORENZ godparents were PHILIPP LORENZ, house owner of Vogldorf # 2 and MARIA ANNA his wife.
JOSEPH LORENZ was born 15 April 1827 in Schönlind # 74 having an occupation of a schlosser (locksmith or machinist) dying after 1876. JOSEPH was the son of FRANZ WENZEL and THERESIA (SCHOEDL) LORENZ marrying 3 Nov 1857 in Schönlind to REGINA KATHARINA RICHTER born 7 Sept 1829 in Schieferhuettere the daughter of ADALBERT and ANNA RICHTER. Their children were:
After the death of his first wife, JOSEPH LORENZ married a second time to REGINA KRAUTNER, the daughter of JOHANN KRAUTNER and VERONIKA KRAUS, in 1869 having three children:
Reinhold Erlbeck, a son of the daughter of VALENTINA LORENZ, lives 300 km from Schönlind, North-Bohemia, now part of the Czech Republic, and has an oral history in his family of the half-brothers of his maternal grandmother being "keen hunters" and immigrating to Cincinnati, Ohio. (12) In Schönlind, the Lorenz family house name was Schlosser. Reinhold Erlbeck has kindly submitted the following maps and photographs: 1. Hochgarth; 2. Schieierhutten and Spillermuhle; 3. Schönlind, 1920; 4. Schönlind - 24 May 2006; 5. German - Czech Republic map; 6. Schönlind House Numbers map; 7. Oberer (Upper) Market Schönlind, Unterer (Lower) Market Schönlind, Marketplace (Market Square) Schönlind; 8. Market Schönlind Kirche (Church); 9. Himmerfrische - Schönlind; 10. Motiv bei (Prebuz - Fruehbuss) Fruhbuss; 11. Vogeldorf bei Schönlind im Erzgeb (Vogeldorf by Schönlind: Erzgebirge Mountains); and the last photograph is of Schönlind Market Hills.
* Source: Reinhold Erlbeck.
* Source: Kathy Compagno.
* FRANZ JOSEF and ROSA (HEIDLER) LORENZ immigrated to Cincinnati in 1891 via Bremen. FRANZ LORENZ was son of JOSEPH and REGINA (RICHTER) LORENZ from Schönlind and ROSA HEIDLER was the daughter of FRANZ and ROSINA (GARRELS) HEIDLER from Neuhammer, Bohemia. FRANZ'S brothers ANTON and WENZL, having emigrated in the 1880's, sponsored his entry into the United States. ANTON, who married ELIZABETH and then second wife ANNA, had sons JOSEPH, BERNARD, JULIUS, and FRANK returned to Austria-Hungary. The above Die Familie der ROSA HEIDLER und des FRANZ JOSEF LORENZ, and JOSEPH CONRAD FRANK LORENZ were written by KATHERINE BERTSCH COMPAGNO, Copyright 2005: All Rights Reserved.
* Source: Kathy Compagno.
A photograph of ROSA LORENZ, Gold Star Mother, at the WWI grave of her son, JOSEPH LORENZ, Suresnes Cemetery, France can be found in the following weekly magazine article: Liberty, Vol. 7, No. 29, 19 July 1930.* JOSEPH LORENZ of Ohio joined the Wisconsin National Guard a year before WWI Draft Registration, and he is, therefore, mentioned as “a Wisconsin boy.” (13)
* The above Liberty magazine article was provided by Kathy Compagno.
Additional LORENZ family information can be found at The Beginning of a Doughboy, Over the Rhine: A Brief History of the FRANZ and ROSA LORENZ Family in Cincinnati, Ohio, and at LORENZ, GILLIAM, HAFNER, GULLETT: History of the ANTHONY and MARIA (HAFNER) LORENZ Family, and the CHARLIE and GRACE (GULLETT) GILLIAM Family, with Additional Surname References to HEIDLER of Austria-Hungary, SCHEIDLER of Germany, and ADKINS, ARNETT, ISON, and LEWIS and Related Families from Eastern Kentucky, and Southwest Virginia.
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 1, Page 1, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 1, Page 6, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
Second great grandfather, on my mother's side, PHILIP LORENZ was the son of WENZEL LORENZ, landlord in Schönlind # 74, and THERESIA nee SCHOEDL, from Schönlind # 4. PHILIP was born at 1400 hours on 23 June 1831 in Schönlind, (Krásná Lípa) Austria (now part of the Czech Republic) and babtized on 24 June 1831 in Schönlind # 74. He married WILHELMINE SCHUERER between January 1851 and March 1854 in Schönlind, (Krásná Lípa) Austria (Czech Republic). She was born at 2100 hours on 12 Feb 1831 in Schönlind # 43, (Krásná Lípa) Austria (Czech Republic) and was babtized on 13 Feb 1831. WILHELMINE is the daughter of IGNAZ SCHUERER, shoemaker master in Schoenlin # 40 and ANNA THERESIA nee ERHART from Schönlind # 43. IGNATZ SCHUERER was the legitimate son of ANDREAS SCHUERER (dead), house owner and MARIA ANNA ROEDIG (dead), miller's daughter from Hermesgruen # 2, and ERHARD, ANNA THERESIA, born in Schönlind # 43, was the legitimate daughter of JOSEPH ERHARD (dead), house owner, and MARIA ANNA nee PLEYER (dead) from Kohling # 27.
PHILIP LORENZ apparently died on 9 Oct 1910. The godmother of WILHELMINE SCHUERER was ANNA SCHUERER, wife of FRIEDRICH SCHUERER, house owner of Schönlind # 49. WILHELMINE had at least three sisters: MATHILDE born 8 Sept 1834 in Schönlind # 43, MARIA EVA born 24 Dec 1835 in Schönlind # 43, and JOHANNA. IGNATZ SCHUERER, father of WILHELMINE, had brothers: FRIEDRICH born in Schönlind # 49, and JOSEPH born in Schönlind # 28 or 49. The certificate of death for ROBERT LORENZ, however, specifies his mother as HERMINA SCHERER.
PHILIP LORENZ and WILHELMINE SCHUERER had ten children:
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 1, Page 157, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 7, Page 2, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
* Note on the side reads + which indicates she has died.
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 7, Page 9, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 7, Page 21, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
* Note on the side reads + 23 Jan 1858 which indicates he died on 23 Jan 1858. The difference in house numbers could be that the family moved.
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 7, Page 33, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 7, Page 50, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
* Note on the side reads + 12 May 1862 which indicates he died on 12 May 1862.
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 7, Page 58, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
* Note on the side reads + 18 June 1863 which indicates she died on 18 June 1863.
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 7, Page 72, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
* Note on the side reads oo 27 May 1890 with JOSEF SCHUERER and she + 2 April 1942 in Schönlind which indicates she married JOSEF SCHUERER on 27 May 1890 and died in Schönlind on 2 April 1942.
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 7, Page 92, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
* Note on the side reads + 14 June 1869 which indicates she died on 14 June 1869.
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 7, Page 105, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
Pilsen Archive, Czech Republic, Book 7, Page 172, Krasna Lipa, (Schönlind).
The following entries are the immigration records for FRANK (FRANZ) LORENZ and his brother ROBERT LORENZ.
* Source: Arnold Kludas, Die Seeschiffe des Norddeutschen Lloyd, Bd. 1: 1857 bis 1919 (Herford: Koehler, c1991), p. 30.
"The SS Elbe was an iron-hulled steamship built by John Elder & Co, Glasgow, for Norddeutscher Lloyd, and launched on April 2, 1881. The ship was 432 ft in length, 45 ft in breath and had a gross weight of 4,510 tons. She had a straight bow, two funnels, and four masts. Powered by double-expansion engines, the single screw propelled the steamer at a service speed of 16 knots. The Elbe was Norddeutscher Lloyd's first express steamer, and it could sail from England to New York in just over 8 days. However, she proved to be uneconomical because of her high consumption of coal and her small cargo capacity. She had accommodations for 179 passengers in 1st class, 142 in 2nd class, and 796 in steerage and was the line's first vessel with first class amidships instead of aft." (14)
"Her maiden voyage was June 26, 1881 from Bremen to Southampton and New York. In 1883, she was outfitted with electric lights. . . The Elbe made many more trips over the next 10 years, including three voyages to Australia, but on January 30, 1895, she collided with the British coal collier "Craithie" about 30 miles west of Ijmuiden, Netherlands. Within 20 minutes, she sank to the bottom taking 332 of the 352 passengers on board with her.
Source: Extracted from the listing posted to the Emigration-Ships Mailing List by Michael Palmer - 5 July 1998." (15)
District Court, County of Guadalupe.
Personally appeared, FRANZ LORENZ who declares upon oath that he is the natural born subject of FRANCIS JOSEPH, EMPEROR OF AUSTRIA; that he was born in Schonlin; that he is 36 years of age; that he emigrated to the United States of America and arrived at the port of Baltimore in the State of Maryland on or about the 23rd day of June 1867; that it is his bona fide intention to become a Citizen of the United States and renounce forever all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign Prince, Potentate, State or Sovereignty whatsoever, and particular any and all allegiance to the FRANCIS JOSEPH, EMPEROR OF AUSTRIA; and that he will bear true allegiance to the United States and support the Constitution of the same.
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 15th day of July 1887; C. L. Arbuckle, Clerk and the seal of the District Court of Guadalupe County, in said State.
County Court, County of Guadalupe.
Personally appeared, ROBERT LORENZ who declares upon oath that he is the natural born subject of FRANZ JOSEPH, EMPEROR OF AUSTRIA; that he was born in Scheudliud; that he is 29 years of age; that he emigrated to the United States of America and arrived at the port of New York in the State of New York on or about the 20th day of April 1886; that it is his bona fide intention to become a Citizen of the United States and renounce forever all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign Prince, Potentate, State or Sovereignty whatsoever, and particular any and all allegiance to the FRANZ JOSEPH, EMPEROR OF AUSTRIA; and that he will bear true allegiance to the United States and support the Constitution of the same.
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 21th day of December 188(8) or 188(9); A. E. WILSON, Clerk; County Court, Guadalupe County.
To any Regularly Licensed or Ordained Minister of the Gospel, Jewish Rabbi, Judge of the District or County Court, or any Justice of the Peace in the State of Texas - Greetings: You are hereby authorized to Solemnize the Rites of Matrimony Between Mr. FRANK LORENZ and THERESA HAGN and make due return to the Clerk of the County Court of said County within Sixty days thereafter, certifying your action under this License. Witness my Official Signature and Seal of office, at office in Seguin, Texas, the 21st day of February 1887(8). A. E. WILSON, Clerk of the County Court, Guadalupe County, Texas.
I, J. W. WEST Certify that on the 12th day of March 1887(8), I united in marriage Mr. FRANK LORENZ and Miss THERESA HAGN the parties above named. Witness my hand this 12th day of March 1887(8).
J. W. WEST.
Returned and filed for record 14 March 1887(8), and recorded the 14th day of March 1887(8).
Deputy A. E. WILSON, County Clerk.
FRANK (FRANZ) LORENZ, death certificate, married THERESA HAGEN, death certificate, on 12 Mar 1888 in Guadalupe Co. TX. They had at least seven children born at York Creek and Kingsbury, Guadalupe Co. Texas:
* EMMA LORENZ married: BENNO KARRASS, who died 18 August 1946, San Antonio, Bexar Co. Texas, and then MACK ROYALTY on 9 March 1953, Lovington, Lea Co. New Mexico. MACK ROYALTY was born 13 September 1901, Rotan, Fisher Co. Texas dying 11 August 1988, Abilene, Taylor Co. TX. And MACK ROYALTY is listed as 18 years of age, the son of BEN B. ROYALTY, 63, in the below 1920 Fisher Co. TX Census Image. CLARA LORENZ married WALTER HELMKE. HARRY SYDNEY LORENZ married ORA DEAN TUTTLE on 7 April 1936 in Lordsburg, Hidalgo Co. New Mexico. (16)
* Source: Joan Waldbusser and Kathy Compagno.
To any Regularly Licensed or Ordained Minister of the Gospel, Jewish Rabbi, Judge of the District or County Court, or any Justice of the Peace in the State of Texas - Greetings: You are hereby authorized to Solemnize the Rites of Matrimony Between Mr. JOSEPH SCHOELZEL and Miss ANNA C. HAGELGANS and make due return to the Clerk of the County Court of said County within Sixty days thereafter, certifying your action under this License. Witness my Official Signature and Seal of office, at office in Seguin, Texas, the 1st day of February 1888. A. E. WILSON, Clerk of the County Court, Guadalupe County, Texas.
I, FRANZ WEISSKOPFF Certify that on the 2nd day of October 1888, I united in marriage Mr. JOSEPH SCHOELZEL and Miss ANNA C. HAGELGANS the parties above named. Witness my hand this 2nd day of October 1888.
FRANZ WEISSKOPFF, Minister of the Gospel.
Returned and filed for record 3 March 1889, and recorded 3 March 1889.
Deputy A. E. WILSON, County Clerk.
Above is a photo containing members of four families: FRANK LORENZ'S son ROBERT, his wife PAULINA SCHOELZEL, their son HARRY, death certificate, her father JOSEPH SCHOELZEL, death certificate, his wife ANNIE HAGELGANS, death certificate, other children of their union, LILLIE HAGELGANS, and JOHN GOTTHARDT. The back of the photo lists the following names: GEORGE, CONRAD, death certificate, THEODORE, ANNIE, PAPA SCHOELZEL, ROBERT LORENZ, PAULINA LORENZ, HARRY LORENZ, LILLIE HAGELGANS, & JOHN GOTTHARDT.
* The last child still living of Conrad Fredrick Schoelzel is Robert Schoelzel Sr. He was born in 1930 and married Helen Neizman having four children: Bryan Schoelzel born 1950 died 1999; Debra Schoelzel born 1951 married Greg Crank having two boys: Gregory and Matthew; Robert Schoelzel Jr. born 1956 married having three children: Twin boys Casey and Carson, and daughter Amber; and Robi Schoelzel born 1959 married Robert Anderson having no children. Everyone lives in California including Cora Lee before she died. Cora Lee went by Leigh and married Jim Hickey having two children: Steven and Cynthia. Minnie Lee had six children and went by Sharon dying in 1991. Walter died of pneumonia when he was 18. (17)
* Source: Robi Anderson.
To any Regularly Licensed or Ordained Minister of the Gospel, Jewish Rabbi, Judge of the District or County Court, or any Justice of the Peace in the State of Texas - Greetings: You are hereby authorized to Solemnize the Rites of Matrimony Between Mr. ROBERT LORENZ, Jr. and Miss PAULINA SCHOELZEL and make due return to the Clerk of the County Court of said County within Sixty days thereafter, certifying your action under this License. Witness my Official Signature and Seal of office, at office in Seguin, Texas, the 29th day of December 1913. R. F. WILSON, Clerk of the County Court, Guadalupe County, Texas.
I, W. STEINMANN Certify that on the 29th day of December 1913, I united in marriage Mr. ROBERT LORENZ, Jr. and Miss PAULINA SCHOELZEL the parties above named.
Witness my hand this 31st day of December 1913.
W. STEINMANN, Lutheran Pastor.
Returned and filed for record 31 December 1913, and recorded 31 December 1913.
R. F. WILSON, County Clerk.
Great grandfather, ROBERT LORENZ, married LOUISA (LIZZIE) BENNER in Texas. She was born on 18 May 1870 dying 25 May 1957. The below photo is LOUISA (LIZZIE) BENNER LORENZ and children or most likely grandchildren: The dark haired boy in the middle is LESLEY ANTON LORENZ, Sr.
To any Regularly Licensed or Ordained Minister of the Gospel, Jewish Rabbi, Judge of the District or County Court, or any Justice of the Peace in the State of Texas - Greetings: You are hereby authorized to Solemnize the Rites of Matrimony Between Mr. ROBERT LORENZ and LOUISA BENNER and make due return to the Clerk of the County Court of said County within Sixty days thereafter, certifying your action under this License. Witness my Official Signature and Seal of office, at office in Seguin, Texas, the 28th day of October 1890.
A. E. WILSON, Clerk of the County Court, Guadalupe County, Texas.
I, W. J. AVRETTE Certify that on the 2nd day of November 1890, I united in marriage Mr. ROBERT LORENZ and Miss LOUISA BENNER the parties above named.
Witness my hand this 2nd day of November 1890.
W. J. AVRETTE, J. P. Guadalupe County.
The certificate of death for LOUISA "LIZZIE" BENNER LORENZ lists AUGUST BENNER and HELENE ADLE as parents both born in Germany. The below HEINRICH (HENRY) BENNER family in the 1860 New Braunfels, Comal Co. and 1870 Lockhart, Caldwell Co. Texas census has AUGUST BENNER age sixteen in 1870. A book compiled by BENNER descendants lists the birth of LOUISA BENNER, daughter of HEINRICH (HENRY) BENNER, as 26 June 1864 Hortontown, TX. This LOUISA BENNER married Dr. ALBERT JOHNSON and is buried in Fredericksburg, TX. The LOUISA BENNER born 18 May 1870, therefore, is not the daughter of HEINRICH (HENRY) BENNER living in the 1860 New Braunfels, Comal Co. and 1870 Lockhart, Caldwell Co. Texas census. The possibility does exist that she is the offspring of his son AUGUST BENNER.
The most likely candidate, however, for the father of LOUISA "LIZZIE" BENNER born 18 May 1870 is the AUGUST BENNER in the 1860 Bexar Co. TX census age fourteen and twenty-four years old in the 1870 Kendall Co. TX census. This AUGUST BENNER married CAROLINE ERTEL (EREL, ESTEL) in Kendall Co. TX. AUGUST and CAROLINE or HELENE, as stated in the above certificate of death, were born in Germany. Census images for both AUGUST BENNER'S are available below.
ROBERT (RUPERT) & LOUISA (LIZZIE) BENNER married on 2 Nov 1890 and had six children in the York Creek and Kingsbury area of Guadalupe Co. Texas:
ANNIE LORENZ born 17 June 1907 in Guadalupe Co. TX married ALBERT W. SEITER in the 1920's. CAROLINE LORENZ married JOHN C. STEFFENS. He was the son of CHRISTAN STEFFENS and PAULINE GOTTHARDT STEFFENS, daughter of GUSTAV and MARGARETTE GOTTHARDT. CAROLINE LORENZ STEFFENS remarried in 1942 after the death of JOHN C. STEFFENS to FLOYD CALDWELL, 1907 - September 1973. FLOYD and CAROLINE LORENZ STEFFENS CALDWELL lived in Seguin, TX until their death in 1973.
Name, Born, Died, Lot, Owners Name.
* AMY DALEN is the daughter of RUTH CHRISTINE DONSBACH and KEITH BRUCE DALEN. RUTH DONSBACH is the daughter of WELDON ROGER DONSBACH, who is the son of ADOLPH BALTHASAR DONSBACH, who was the son of EMMA FRIEDA STEFFENS, who was the daughter of CHRISTIAN STEFFENS and ERNESTINE PAULINE GOTTHARDT.
RUTH CHRISTINE DONSBACH, born 4 October 1947, married KEITH BRUCE DALEN, born 15 June 1947 having the following children: MATTHEW KEITH DALEN, born 12 March 1981; AMY LOUISE DALEN, born 13 February 1983; and JEREMY CHRISTIAN DALEN, born 22 May 1985.
CARLENE ESTHER DONSBACH, born 3 September 1952, married STUART EDWARD BASSELL, born 10 July 1949, having the following children: TIMOTHY EDWARD BASSELL, born 5 June 1984; and GREGORY CARL BASSELL, born 12 October 1986. LEONARD CHARLES DONSBACH, born 12 October 1949, never married. (18)
* Source: Amy Dalen.
All my immediate LORENZ ancestors came from Guadalupe Co. TX and some LORENZ relatives are buried at Kingsbury Cemetery, in Kingsbury, Guadalupe Co. TX. Through census records, I have uncovered a LORENZ in Guadalupe Co. TX in 1880. No first name was given for this LORENZ, but it proves a LORENZ was in Guadalupe Co. TX in 1880. In 1870, there are a lot of LORENZ'S in Bastrop Co. TX, which is one, county over: Guadalupe, Caldwell, Bastrop. The below census record may be that of one of my LORENZ ancestors. Or it may be totally unrelated.
Source: Census Place District 72, Guadalupe, Texas; Family History Library Film: 1255308; NA Film Number: T9-1308; Page Number 213B.
Guadalupe County's Contribution of Man Power To The World War For Liberty: December, 1918.
Roster: White National Army - September 4, 19, 1917.
February 26, 1918.
Mr. ROBERT LORENZ died at his home in Kingsbury, January 25 after a long illness, the result of a severe attack of influenza last year. Mr. LORENZ was born and raised in this county, his parents coming here from Austria. He was married December 29, 1913 to Miss PAULINA SCHOELZEL, who survives him. An honest, industrious citizen, he will be sadly missed by many friends and neighbors. Interment was made in the Kingsbury Cemetery on the 26th services being conducted by Reverend S. P. HARRIS, of the Seguin Baptist Church. Mr. LORENZ is survived by his wife; two little sons, HARRY and CLIFFORD; a brother, Mr. FRANK LORENZ of Seguin and other relatives, to whom we extend sympathy. (19)
Source: Seguin Enterprise, 6 February 1920.
Guadalupe Co. Precinct 1.
Guadalupe Co. Precinct 6.
* CLIFFORD LORENZ, death certificate, lived with his Aunt EMMA and her husband, BENNO KARRASS, after his father, ROBERT WILLIAM LORENZ, died. His mother, PAULINA SCHOELZEL LORENZ, became ill, and he was sent to live with the Aunt and Uncle listed above. PAULINA LORENZ lived with her parents until she died. ROBERT WILLIAM LORENZ was born on 13 October 1888 in York Creek, Guadalupe Co. Texas. His parents were FRANK LORENZ and THERESA HEGEN. He married PAULINA SCHOELZEL on 29 December 1913 in Guadalupe Co. Texas. She was born on 16 July 1897 to JOSEPH SCHOELZEL and ANNIE KATHERINE HAGELGANS. (20)
* Source: Joan Waldbusser.
Guadalupe Co. Precinct 6.
* OSCAR LORENZ, military veteran, died in Guadalupe Co. 12 September 1964 and is buried at Kingsbury. OLGA LORENZ also died at Kingsbury on 28 October 1993. LESLIE ANTON LORENZ who died 13 October 1992 preceded her in death. LEROY WALTER LORENZ died 19 October 1998 at Kingsbury and WANDA LEA LORENZ was born 23 March 1927 dying 3 January 1979 at Kingsbury. LORENE LORENZ, born in 1926, married ALTON A. PENDLETON, 9 September 1922 to 12 August 2001, Major USAF Fighter Pilot. His autobiography can be viewed at Three O'Clock High. EUGENIA PENDLETON was born December 1945 to parents LORINE PAULINE LORENZ and ALTON ALFRED PENDLETON. (21)
* Source: Kathy Compagno and Alton A. Pendleton.
Guadalupe Co. Precinct 7.
* ALBERT W. SEITER owned his own Barber Shop dying 18 March 1992. ANNA LORENZ SEITER died 1 November 1995 in Sugarland, Texas. ALBERT WILBUR SEITER, JR. was born 8 January 1927 in Guadalupe Co. TX. ROBERT FRANKLIN SEITER was also born in Guadalupe Co. on 2 January 1935. (22)
* Source: Kathy Compagno.
ANTON LORENZ, grandfather, met JOSEPHINE PAULINE GOTTHARDT at a dance and then married having three children:
The mtDNA of LILLIE MAE LORENZ NOLEN indicates that the maternal DNA of LILLIE MAE LORENZ, RUBY LORENZ, and their mother JOSEPHINE PAULINE GOTTHARDT is of Haplogroup I (Iris) subclade I3 plus 16086.
In a double ring ceremony at Emanuel’s Lutheran Church, Miss LILLIE MAE LORENZ and Mr. JOHNIE ARZELL NOLEN, were united in marriage at 5:00 o’clock p. m., Saturday, Aug. 12, Rev. JANSEEN officiating.
The bride is the daughter of Mrs. Joe Hagelgans of Staples. The groom is the son of Mr. and Mrs. W. D. Nolen of Booneville, Arkansas.
The bride was lovely in her street-length dress of blue ninnon with white accessoties and a corsage of pink carnations.
Mr. and Mrs. Hubert Bishop of Beeville, sister and brother-in-law of the bride, were the only attendants. The groom is stationed at Randolph Field. The couple will make their home in Seguin.
To any Regularly Licensed or Ordained Minister of the Gospel, Jewish Rabbi, Judge of the District or County Court, or any Justice of the Peace in the State of Texas - Greetings: You are hereby authorized to Solemnize the Rites of Matrimony Between Mr. ANTON LORENZ and JOSIE GOTTHARDT and make due return to the Clerk of the County Court of said County within Sixty days thereafter, certifying your action under this License. Witness my Official Signature and Seal of office, at office in Seguin, Texas, the 1st day of November 1920. R. F. WILSON, Clerk of the County Court, Guadalupe County, Texas.
I, AUGUST HEINERT Certify that on the 3rd day of November 1920, I united in marriage Mr. ANTON LORENZ and Miss JOSIE GOTTHARDT the parties above named. Witness my hand this 3rd day of November 1920.
AUGUST HEINERT, J. P. Precinct No. 1, Guadalupe Co. Texas.
Returned and filed for record 3 November 1920, and recorded the 8th day of November 1920.
R. F. WILSON, County Clerk.
The following photo was taken in 1920 and is ANTON & JOSEPHINE PAULINE GOTTHARDT LORENZ. They were married on 3 Nov 1920 in Guadalupe Co. TX. Anton Lorenz was born 5 Sept 1889 and died 1 Oct 1937. Death location is Staples, TX. The second photo is of their family:
Born Sept. 5, 1899.
Died Oct. 1, 1937.
A sudden death which brought a shadow over the whole community and deep sorrow to his loved ones, was that of the passing of Mr. ANTON LORENZ, which occurred in the hospital at San Marcos last Friday, following the accidental burning at his home the night before. Deceased, living two miles West of Staples, was fatally burned about the body when his garage was destroyed by fire. Two other men, who came to his rescue, were also severely burned.
ANTON LORENZ was born Sept. 5, 1899 at Kingsbury, the son of the late ROBERT LORENZ and his wife, LIZZIE nee BRENNER. His early life was spent in this neighborhood. On Nov 3, 1920, he married Miss JOSEPHINE GOTTHARDT, the young couple first making their home in Kingsbury, later at Galle and near Staples. He was always active in the affairs of his community and was highly respected.
Besides his wife, deceased is survived by his children: MILTON, RUBY and LILLIE MAE LORENZ, his mother and his mother-in-law; his brothers and sisters: OSCAR and wife, HULDA; KAROLINE and husband, J. C. STEFFENS; WALTER and wife, ARBA; ANNA and husband, ALBERT SEITER; also his brothers and sisters-in-law, PAUL GALLAHER and wife, HEDWIG; ERNST GOTTHARDT and wife, PEARL; ADOLPH GOTTHARDT; CHARLEY GOTTHARDT; FRIEDA and husband, MARVIN FERRELL; WALTER GOTTHARDT and wife, ELIZABETH; and 25 nephews and nieces.
Funeral services were held at the family home Sunday afternoon by the Rev. T. M. JANSSEN with interment in the Kingsbury cemetery. The Enterprise extends heartfelt sympathy to the loved ones who are so sorely bereft.
ANTON LORENZ died in 1937 due to a barn or garage fire as indicated in the above newspaper article. His grave marker is below:
Guadalupe Co. Precinct 7.
Guadalupe Co. Precinct 7.
Iowa Park Town.
* BILLY LORENZ is female. LOUIS LORENZ died in 1950. MEADY MAE GLASSE LORENZ was born 24 March 1901 dying 25 July 1939. MEADY MAE LORENZ is buried in the Montague Cemetery in Montague Co. TX. QUINTONE LORENZ died in Trenton, New Jersey in 1979 survived by three children and thirteen grandchildren (as of 2005) all-residing in the New York and New Jersey area. LORENA LORENZ HOFFMAN died in Liberty, TX in 1985 having no children. BILLIE LEE LORENZ GROTE is a long time resident of New Branufels, TX having three children and three grandchildren all residing in the State of Texas. ROBERT LORENZ died in Liberty, TX in 1999 having no children. EUGENE LORENZ died 2001 in Brownsville, TX survived by wife ROSE, daughter JUDY, and two sons, DAVID and JOHN. WILLIAM OSBORNE (adopted in 1935) died Torrance, CA in 1994 survived by his wife and four children.
QUINTINE LORENZ, the oldest son of LOUIS LORENZ, was in the U. S. Army during the second World War fighting in the Battle of the Bulge and returned to the United States settling in New Jersey. EUGENE LORENZ, the third son of LOUIS LORENZ, served in the U. S. Army during the Korean conflict retiring from the U. S. Air Force in 1973. His last assignment was Superintendent of Base Security, Randolph Air Force Base. DAVID LORENZ, son of EUGENE LORENZ, served in the U. S. Navy from 1979-83 as Hospital Corpsman. (23)
* Source: David Lorenz.
Justice Precinct 2.
* WALTER and ARVA LORENZ died October 1975 and October 1986, respectively, at Bartlett in Bell Co. TX. (24)
* Source: Kathy Compagno.
PAULINE GOTTHARDT STEFFENS is the daughter of GUSTAV and MARGARETTE GOTTHARDT. * RICHARD STEFFENS was born 14 June 1916 dying February 1985. (25)
* Source: Kathy Compagno.
LZ (Landing Zone) Maureen Flag Raising - Photo Taken by LT. ED HEITOV, Then the 1st Platoon Leader; Left to right: KEN LORENZ (Odessa, Texas), MEL WILKISON (with M-60, from Kansas), PETE JOHNSON (Minnesota), HOUSTON MARTIN (North Carolina), JIM CABLE (North Carolina), RON KEY (Squad Leader, from Louisiana), and ED CAIN (Tennessee.) The Flag was "Donated" by the Marines at Dong Ha.
Current Offense Data:
Offense Date, Offense, Sentence Date, County, Case No., Sentence (Year-Month-Day).
08/22/01 - Funerals, Death Notices and Obituaries.
"Kingsland: BERTHA ROSA BARTH LORENZ, 76, died Monday, August 20, 2001, at her residence. Graveside service will be at 2 p. m. Thursday in Kingsbury Cemetery. Arrangements are by Waldrope-Hatfield-Hawthorne Funeral Home. Survivors include her husband, MILTON LORENZ of Kingsland; sons, KENNETH LORENZ of Topeka, Kansas, RONALD LORENZ of Nacogdoches and DONALD LORENZ of Odessa; daughters, ELAINE MARIE [LORENZ] THOMPSON of Midland, BETTY LOUISE [LORENZ] DORREST of Odessa and KATHYRN [LORENZ] SEARSY of Spicewood; brothers, ROBERT BARTH of Seguin and HARRY BARTH of Luling; and sister, HULDA [BARTH] PAPE of Gonzales." (26)
"Visitation for HUBERT ‘RED’ BISHOP will be held 6-8 p.m. today, Jan 20, at Rader Funeral Home of Longview. Honoring his requests, cremation will follow under the direction of Rader Funeral Home of Longview. Mr. BISHOP died Saturday, Jan 18, 2003 in Longview. Mr. BISHOP was born June 22, 1928, in New Braunfels to HUBERT and EMMA BISHOP. He served his country with the U. S. Air Force before receiving an honorable discharge in 1947. Mr. BISHOP had been a resident of Longview since 1955. He was a member of several organizations, including the Masonic Lodge No. 404, Scottish Rite, F. O. E. 4125, Gregg County Scottish Rite and the VFW Post 4002. Mr. BISHOP was preceded in death by his parents and eight brothers. Mr. BISHOP is survived by his wife of 56 years, RUBY [LORENZ BISHOP]; one son and daughter in-law, KEITH and KERRY [SMITH LAWRENCE] BISHOP of Fort Worth; one daughter and son in-law, DIANNE [BISHOP SMITH] and RONNIE SMITH of Longview; two granddaughters, RAMIE BISHOP of Fort Worth and EMILY SMITH of Beaufort, SC; one sister, EVELYN [BISHOP] SPICER of New Braunfels; one brother, JACK BISHOP of New Braunfels; one sister in-law, LILLIE [LORENZ] NOLEN of Fort Worth; one brother in-law, MILTON LORENZ of Kingsland; and numerous nieces and nephews. Those unable to attend may sign an online memorial book at www.raderfh.com under the obituary section." (27)
* TEDDY LORENZ PHILLIPS, daughter of HARRY SYDNEY LORENZ, died 25 June 2005 in Flagstaff, Arizona. She had been ill for some time but this was still unexpected. Her husband, William "Red" Phillips is doing fairly well considering. He was her only caretaker for many years and is very lost at this time. She left two daughters, Cori Porter Tuffly and Cydnee Bradford. (28)
* Source: Joan Waldbusser.
Danny Dorsett, 70, of Odessa, passed away on Saturday, May 12, 2012, while celebrating his 44th anniversary in Paris, France, with the love of his life, Betty Dorsett" (BETTY LOUISE [LORENZ] DORREST). "Known by many as the “Jerky Man," he worked most of his life in the oilfield as a truck driver. Danny was quick to smile, loved to laugh, and never knew a stranger. He is survived by his wife: Betty; daughters: Tammy Joy and husband Ron of Leander, TX and Peggy Johns and husband Steven of Schertz, TX; his grandchildren: Kerini Joy, Kara Joy, Hunter Johns, and Hali Johns; his siblings: Betty Butts, and Kenneth Dorsett, both from Odessa; and twenty nieces and nephews. He was preceded in death by his mother and father, Gladys and M.H. Dorsett, and his son, John Dorsett. Visitation will be held at Acres West Funeral Chapel on Friday, May 25, 2012 from 7- 9pm. Graveside services will be held on Saturday, May 26, 2012 at 2 pm at Sunset Memorial Gardens. Arrangements are entrusted to Acres West Funeral Chapel. In lieu of flowers, the family asks that friends and family please consider making a love offering to his widow, Betty Dorsett, to cover Danny’s medical and funeral expenses."
1. From the BBC: DNA analysis tracks Silk Road forbears, Sciforums.com @ http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=3781.
2. Portal: Ancient Germanic Culture: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Ancient_Germanic_culture.
3. Leverenz Coat of Arms, Family Crest @ http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp/s.Leverenz/Leverenz_family_Crest/Leverenz_coat_of_arms/qx/coatofarms_details.htm.
4. Behind the Name @ http://www.behindthename.com/php/view.php?name=laurence-1.
5. German Genealogy: Sudetenland @ http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/sudet_en.html.
6. Kathy Compagno e-mail.
7. Franconia @ http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/Franconia.
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16. Joan Waldbusser and Kathy Compagno e-mails.
17. Robi Anderson e-mail.
18. Amy Dalen e-mail.
19. Seguin Enterprise, 6 February 1920.
20. Joan Waldbusser e-mail.
21. Kathy Compagno e-mail and Alton A. Pendleton’s autobiography Three O'Clock High @ http://www.onr.com/user/dtg/index.html.
22. Kathy Compagno e-mail.
23. David Lorenz e-mail.
24. Kathy Compagno e-mail.
26. San Angelo Standard-Times, 22 August 2001.
27. Rader Funeral Home Death Notification, Longview, Texas, 20 January 2003.
28. Joan Waldbusser e-mail.
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