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It is not clear just who were the parents of Charles Coleman (1744-1824) who married Elizabeth Roundtree. It may be that he is the same Charles Coleman who appears in one or more of the deeds listed below:
In Deed Book 13, on page 135, we find Elizabeth Roundtree of Wayne County, N.C. deed to Charles Coleman reserving to herself a life-time interest in the land, 15 Apr 1809. [Watson, 1969, p. 83] In Deed Book 17, on page 12, we find Charles Coleman of Cahawba Co, AL sold land granted to him on 09 Mar 1760. Doc date 30 Jun 1819. In Deed Book 21, on page 86, we find Charles Coleman was son of Robert Coleman, deceased, whose father was Robert Coleman, deceased. doc date 11 Nov 1833. [Watson, 1969, p. 219]
If these are our subject, then he was the son of a Robert Coleman who was son of a Robert Coleman. Thus, one could jump to the conclusion that our subject is the grandson of Robert Coleman, I of Nansemond County Virginia. I have seen it shown that way and can neither dispute nor prove the connection. If it were true, why did Charles Coleman not get mentioned in the will of Robert Coleman, II?
Let us further consider the timeline for this hypothesized connection. We need a Robert Coleman born about 25 to 45 years prior to Charles' birth in 1744, which works out to a period of about 1700 to 1720, more or less. Since Robert Coleman, II was born in 1676, he was clearly too early and since Robert Coleman, IV was born c1734, he was clearly too late to be the father of Charles. Therefore, based on the timeline here assembled in Chapters 2 and 3 of this book, I submit that Robert Coleman, III b. 1705, is the most likely candidate to be the father of the Charles Coleman of interest here. But what are the odds this was true when no Charles is named in Robert Coleman, III's will? It is not unheard of to not name a son in one's will for a variety of reasons. One explanation is the fact of early inheritance where one child has already realized legal possession of his portion of the estate prior to the death of his or her parent. Another explanation is the child is going by a different name later in life than was used by the parent at the time the will was written. This is a frequent occurence. Even so, I reject all of these notions in this particular instance.
Next, I think it worth considering that the subject Charles Coleman was connected to the Robert Coleman, I through a different son of Robert Coleman, I, possibly a son not yet shown in this book. There would need to have been a pair of Robert Colemans in the line from this hypothetical son but I can not be sure such did not exist, it being difficult to tie all the references to any Robert Coleman to specific instances in the family tree.
Finally, the other possibility is that this Charles Coleman is descended not from the Robert Colemans from Nansemond County Virginia, but from those from Charles City County Virginia. Extant in the wills of Edgecombe County North Carolina are two Robert Colemans, father and son, who do not fit in with the rest of the group as I have constructed it in this book. I first believed these two men to have been part of the Charles City County line documented and claimed as ancestors by J.P. Coleman in his work. The problem with this supposition is that J.P. himself stated that his group was in a different part of Edgecombe County that became Halifax County. This county division occurred in 1758, prior to the death of the two Robert Colemans that do not fit. The problem is that the county seat and court house for the old county lay within the bounds of the new county. People naturally continued to do business there for a time until a new county seat could be elected or appointed, a courthouse constructed, officers of the court elected or appointed, and regular administrative and legal proceedings could be transferred to the new location. I have seen evidence that the old county was in no rush to clarify the situation and confusion over the split may have persisted for a generation or more (20 years) before things were properly settled out.
The question then is whether a Charles was named in these two men's wills, particularly the later one, the son.
In the 1970s, there was a Coleman researcher named Robert Franklin Coleman who wrote several times about the lineage of this group. In correspondence to Mary C. "Polly" Yarborough, of Eutaw, Alabama, dated 1971, he writes that Charles Coleman who moved with his sons John and Wiley to Alabama, and died there in 1824, was the son of a Robert Coleman who was the son of the Charles Coleman who died in 1761 in Edgecombe County, North Carolina. He writes that Charles, father of John and Wiley, had a half brother, Robert who was the author's great great grandfather.
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Historical Maps of precincts of Alabama, Greene County.
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The information in this chapter comes from many different sources.
My thanks to all those individuals who filled in gaps in the information
uncovered in my first source, an article reprinted by Governor J. P.
Coleman in his 1965 work.
The information in this chapter comes primarily from these
sources:
From these and many other sources, a picture of the descendants of Charles Coleman and Mary Roundtree has begun to emerge.
From J.P. Coleman's book, pp 436-439:
(477) Charles Coleman, b. 1744 Edgecombe County, NC, fought in the American Revolution as Quartermaster of the 3rd N. C. Regiment. He married Mary Rountree and died in 1824, being buried at Grassdale in sight of the Coleman-Bank house said to be the oldest frame house in Greene County. Five generations of Colemans are buried at Grassdale. Married Mary in 1765. [DAR record 95982 below] settled in Greene County, AL where he brought his two sons, John, who settled in Greene County and Wiley, who settled in Bibb County.[Coleman, 1965 pages 436-439]
(477) Charles Coleman and wife Mary Roundtree had these children:
(478) 1. John Coleman, b. c1781, d. c1852 (479) 2. William "Wiley" Coleman, b 1783, d 1822 (480) 3. Robert Coleman (481) 4. Allen Coleman (482) 5. Sarah Coleman (483) 6. Mary Coleman (484) 7. Rebecca Coleman (485) 8. Charles Coleman [Hook, 2002, FTM World Family Tree, Feb 2002]
Another source records this family as:
(478) 1. John Coleman, b. 1787, Eutaw, AL, d. 1852, Eutaw, AL (482) 2. Sarah Coleman, b. c1789, Eutaw, AL (483) 3. Mary Coleman, b. c1793, Eutaw, AL (484) 4. Rebecca Coleman, b. c1795, Eutaw, AL (485) 5. Charles Coleman, b. c1802, Eutaw, AL [LDS Family Search, Film 184783]
(478) John Coleman was born in Edgecombe County, N. C., in 09/17/1781 [Winn, 2002]. John married in 1807 to Rhoda Cobb, per DAR record 95982. Rhoda was born in 1793 and died in 1863, per DAR record 95982. John died in 1852 in Greene County, Alabama, where he had come in 1819. He came to Bibb County in 1818. [Coleman, 1965 pages 436-439]
(478) John Coleman and his wife Rhoda Cobb had these children:
(486) 1. James Cobb Coleman, b. 1810, d. 1868 (487) 2. Rebecca Coleman, b. c1815, d. c1891 (488) 3. Judge Wiley Coleman, b. 02/11/1819, d. 05/22/1892 (489) 4. Bester Coleman, b. c1825, d. c1852 (490) 5. Mary Ann Coleman, b. 1823/24, d. c1833 (491) 6. Daniel P. Coleman, b. 1827/28, d. (492) 7. Rhoda Elizabeth Coleman, b. 1830/31, d. c1900 (493) 8. Martha Jane Coleman (Banks), b. 1831/32, d. c1868 (494) 9. Eliza Ann Coleman, b. c1835
James Cobb, Wiley, Rhoda, and Martha Jane are the only children noted in the article reprinted by J. P. Coleman in his 1965 work that originally appeared in the "Greene County Democrat," Eutaw, Alabama, on June 11, 1964. Mary and Eliza, were noted by Hook, 2002 and Hanson, 2003. Hook, 2002b, FTM World Family Tree, Feb 2002 provided the dates for the older children. The existence of Daniel P. Coleman and the years of birth for Mary Ann, Rhoda Elizabeth, Martha, and Daniel are based on the 1850 U. S. Census.
(486) James Cobb Coleman was born in 1810 and died in 1868. On 11/23/1830 he married Martha Ann Anderson who was born in 1810 and died at the young age of 24 in 1834 leaving her husband with two young children. He married secondly, Juliet Bestor, sister of Dr. Daniel P. Bestor, a Baptist Minister and Educator. [Coleman, 1965]
Juliet lived from 1811 to 1859 [DAR record 95982].
Given the death date of his first wife and the birth date of their first child, the date of James' second marriage was between 1834 and 1839.
(486) James Cobb Coleman and his first wife, Martha Ann Anderson, had these two children:
(495) 1. Julia Frances Coleman, b. c1831, d. c1932 [dates per Hook, 2002] (496) 2. Thomas Wilkes Coleman, b. 1833, d. 1920 [Coleman, 1965].
(486) James Cobb Coleman and his second wife, Juliet Bestor, had these children:
(497) 3. Bestor Coleman, b. 1836-1837. (498) 4. Alice Coleman, b. 1838-1839, m. Dr. John Samuel Meriwether in 1860. (499) 5. John Coleman, b. 1840-1841. (500) 6. James Cobb Coleman, Jr. b. 1842, d. 1912 (501) 7. Charles Coleman, b. 1844-1845 m. Laura Pollard c1870. (502) 8. Harvey Coleman, b. 1848, d. 1910, m. 1st 1868 to Emma Allen b. 1851, d. 1875. Harvey is not mentioned in J. P. Coleman's book, but is mentioned in DAR record 95982 and the U.S. Census. Buster or Bestor and John are not mentioned in J. P. Coleman's book but appear in the 1850 U.S. Census. [Coleman, 1965].
The above family appears in the 1850 U.S. Census as:
Index House Line Last Name First Name Age BirthPlace (486) 291B 7 Coleman James C.[Cobb] 39 NC () 291B 8 Coleman Juliet B.[Bestor] 36 CT (495) 291B 9 Coleman Julia F.[Frances] 17 AL (497) 291B 10 Coleman Buster [Bestor] 13 AL (498) 291B 11 Coleman Allice [Alice] 11 AL (499) 291B 12 Coleman John 9 AL (500) 291B 13 Coleman James C.[Cobb, Jr] 7 AL (501) 291B 14 Coleman Charles 5 AL (502) 291B 15 Coleman Harrey [Harvey] 3 AL [1850 U.S. Census of Greene County, AL]
(495) Julia Frances Coleman married Ulysses Thadeus McLemore on 03/19/1853.
(495) Julia Frances Coleman and husband Ulysses Thadeus McLemore had these children:
(503) 1. Joel Thadeus McLemore, b. 1854/55 (504) 2. Addie McLemore, b. 1860/61 (505) 3. Julia McLemore, b. 1864/65 (506) 4. Sallie McLemore, b. 1866/67 [Coleman, 1965] [1880 U.S. Census of Greene Co., AL].
(503) Joel Thadeus McLemore married Judith Elizabeth Dunlap and had these children:
(507) 1. dau. married Bassie Hester (508) 2. dau. married R. I. Colgrove (509) 3. Joe Thadeus McLemore [Coleman, 1965].
In 1880 U.S. Census for Boligee, Greene County, AL, we find the above family listed without Ulysses:
| Name | Relation | Marital Status | Gender | Race | Age | Birthplace | Occupation | Father's Birthplace | Mother's Birthplace |
| Julia McLemore | Self | W | Female | W | 45 | AL | Keeping House | NC | SC |
| Joel McLemore | Son | S | Male | W | 25 | AL | Route Agent | SC | AL |
| Addie McLemore | Dau | S | Female | W | 19 | AL | At Home | SC | AL |
| Julia McLemore | Dau | S | Female | W | 15 | AL | At School | SC | AL |
| Sallie McLemore | Dau | S | Female | W | 13 | AL | At School | SC | AL |
| Peyton Riddle | Other | M | Male | B | 27 | AL | Servant | AL | AL |
| Hester Riddle | Other | M | Female | B | 25 | AL | Servant | AL | AL |
(496) Thomas Wilkes Coleman was born 03/31/1833, nine miles west of Eutaw, and died 11/09/1920, at Eutaw, with burial at Grassdale. He married 11/01/1860, at Sumterville, Alabama, to Frances Jane Wilson. Francis was born in 1842 and died in 1920. [Coleman, 1965]
Hook, 2002 gives the dates for the above couple as:
Thomas Wilkes Coleman born 03/24/1833 and died 11/09/1920.
Francis Jane Wilson born 10/29/1842 and died 07/23/1920.
(496) Thomas Wilkes Coleman was a member of the Constitutional Convention of 1891, served on the Alabama Supreme Court, and is written up in Dr. Owen's Dictionary of Alabama Biography, Dr. A. B. Moore's Alabama, and other volumes. [Coleman, 1965]
In 1880, the U.S. Census for Eutaw, Greene County, AL records Thomas Wilkes Coleman, living alone with an occupation listed as Lawyer. While Alice Meriwether's household in 1880 records a nephew, Ezra Coleman, studying law, it is not clear that nephew is Thomas Wilkes Coleman's son, Ezra. There is also an Ezra along with most of the rest of the children recorded in the household of Ellen Hanah.
(496) Thomas Wilkes Coleman and Frances Jane Wilson's children include:
(510) 1. Ezra Wilson Coleman, b. 08/10/1861, d. 10/13/1904 (511) 2. Ellen Coleman, b. 10/22/1862, d. 03/19/1947 (512) 3. Elizabeth Coleman, b. c1865, d. c1870 (513) 4. Julia Coleman, b. 04/30/1866, d. 01/19/1903 (514) 5. Mary Coleman b. 06/13/1867, d. 03/12/1965 (515) 6. Thomas Wilkes Coleman, Jr., b. 12/19/1868, d. 12/27/1940 (516) 7. Flavel Woodrow Coleman, b. 03/28/1870, d. 06/22/1966 (517) 8. James Samuel Coleman, b. 05/25/1873, d. 12/19/1963 (518) 9. Frances Jane Coleman, b. 06/08/1875, d. 04/12/1965 (519) 10. Charles Hamilton Coleman, b. 10/16/1877, d. 10/08/1916 (520) 11. John Anderson Coleman, b. 12/07/1880, d. 09/30/1954 [Coleman, 1965, Hook, 2002]
The 1880 U.S. Census for District 56, New Prospect, Hale, Alabama, page 285A records:
| Name | Relation | Marital Status | Gender | Race | Age | Birthplace | Occupation | Father's Birthplace | Mother's Birthplace |
| 0 Ellen Hanah | Self | W | Female | W | 72 | SC | Farmer | SC | SC |
| 1 Fanny J. Coleman | Niece | M | Female | W | 37 | AL | Keeping House | SC | TN |
| 2 Ezra W. Coleman | Son | S | Male | W | 18 | AL | At School | AL | AL |
| 3 Ellen Coleman | Dau | S | Female | W | 17 | AL | At School | AL | AL |
| 4 Jullia Coleman | Dau | S | Female | W | 14 | AL | At School | AL | AL |
| 5 Mary Coleman | Dau | S | Female | W | 12 | AL | At School | AL | AL |
| 6 Thomas W. Coleman | Son | S | Male | W | 11 | AL | At School | AL | AL |
| 7 Flaver W. Coleman | Son | S | Male | W | 8 | AL | AL | AL | |
| 8 James W. Coleman | Son | S | Male | W | 7 | AL | AL | AL | |
| 9 Fannie J. Coleman | Dau | S | Female | W | 5 | AL | AL | AL | |
| 10 Charles Coleman | Son | S | Male | W | 3 | AL | AL | AL |
(510) Ezra Wilson Coleman was born 08/10/1861 and died 10/13/1904. He married Nanette P. Shields. [Hook, 2002]
(510) Ezra Wilson Coleman and Nanette P. Shields had these children:
(521) 1. John Shields Coleman, Sr., b. c1894, d. c1971 (522) 2. Thomas Wilkes Coleman, b. c1895, d. c1981 (523) 3. Ezra Wilson Coleman, Jr., b. 04/23/1896, d. 09/22/1969 (524) 4. Ellen Coleman, b. 10/25/1898, d. 05/08/1973 (525) 5. Caroline Coleman, b. 01/13/1902, d. 05/30/1983
(521) John Shields Coleman, Sr. was born about 1894, and died about 1971. He had three wives. He first married Mae Steiner. He second married Dorothy Morrow, and he third married Gertrude Unknown. [Hook, 2002]
(523) Ezra Wilson Coleman, Jr. was born on 04/23/1896, died on 09/22/1969 and married Mary Lida Smith. Mary was born 08/07/1898. [Hook, 2002]
(524) Ellen Coleman was born 10/25/1898 and died 05/08/1973. Ellen married Roland Harvey Johnson. [Hook, 2002]
(525) Caroline Coleman was born 01/13/1902 and died 05/30/1983. Caroline married Dabney Ramseur, Sr. [Hook, 2002]
(511) Ellen Coleman was born 10/22/1862 and died 03/19/1947. [Hook, 2002]
(512) Elizabeth Coleman was born about 1865 and died as a child about 1870. [Hook, 2002]
(513) Julia Coleman was born 04/30/1866 and died 01/19/1903. Julia married James Oliver Banks, Jr. who was born 12/26/1865. [Hook, 2002]
(526) 1. Wiley Coleman Banks, b. c1890 (527) 2. Jamie O. Banks, b. c1892 (528) 3. Ellen Gray Banks, b. 10/17/1893 (529) 4. Willis Alston Banks, b. 06/20/1895 and died 10/15/1965 (530) 5. Hampden Osborne Banks, b. 05/21/1897 and died c1966 (531) 6. Wilkes Coleman Banks, b. 03/18/1898? and died 11/17/1963 (532) 7. withheld Banks, b. 1898/1899 (533) 8. John Coleman Banks, b. 09/27/1899 and died c1969 (534) 9. Ralph Roundtree Banks, b. 04/14/1901 and died 03/15/1959
(528) Ellen Gray Banks was born 10/17/1893. Ellen married Edward Watson Humphries. Edward was born 10/17/1887.
(529) Willis Alston Banks was born 06/20/1895 and died 10/15/1965. Willis married Emily Rutledge Rhett.
(530) Hampden Osborne Banks was born 05/21/1897 and died c1966. Hampden married a Ms. Sage.
(531) Wilkes Coleman Banks was born 03/18/1899 and died 11/17/1963. Wilkes married Mary Watkins Wilson.
(533) John Coleman Banks was born 09/27/1899 and died c1969. John married a Ms. Powers.
(534) Ralph Roundtree Banks was born 04/14/1901 and died 03/15/1959. Ralph married Ms. Minor.
(514) Mary Coleman was born 06/13/1867 and died 03/12/1965. Mary married Grigsby Eskridge Chandler who died about 1898. [Hook, 2002]
(514) Mary Coleman and husband Grigsby Eskridge Chandler had these children:
(535) 1. Thomas Wilkes Chandler, b. c1890, d. 04/04/1946 (536) 2. Frances Jane Chandler, b. 01/24/1892, d. 11/16/1978 (537) 3. Mary Coleman Chandler, b. 08/18/1895
(536) Frances Jane Chandler was born 01/24/1892 and died 11/16/1978. Frances married Frank Roy Yoke.
(515) Thomas Wilkes Coleman, Jr. was born 12/19/1868 and died 12/27/1940. Thomas married Caroline Arnold Beasley who died 12/09/1934. [Hook, 2002]
(515) Thomas Wilkes Coleman, Jr. and wife Caroline Arnold Beasley had these children:
(538) 1. Frances Wilson Coleman, b. 12/06/1892 and died 04/30/1977 (539) 2. Alfred Truitt Coleman, b. 04/13/1894 and died 06/14/1945 (540) 3. Catherine Elizabeth Coleman, b. 12/30/1898 (541) 4. Thomas Wilkes Coleman III, b. 02/26/1900 and died 12/02/1977 (542) 5. withheld Coleman, b. c1903 (543) 6. John Robert Coleman, b. 07/22/1905 and died 11/04/1921 (544) 7. James Woodrow Coleman, b. 07/27/1907 and died 07/23/1948 (545) 8. Charles Hamilton Coleman, b. 03/03/1909 and died 09/10/1915 (546) 9. Mary Cordelia Coleman, b. 12/16/1910 and died 01/20/1973
(538) Frances Wilson Coleman was born 12/06/1892 and died 04/30/1977. Frances married Eugene Lauderdale Turner, Jr. who was born 05/03/1891 and died 04/08/1979. [Hook, 2002]
(539) Alfred Truitt Coleman was born 04/13/1894 and died 06/14/1945. Alfred married Miriam Hawkins and died 10/18/1981. [Hook, 2002]
(540) Catherine Elizabeth Coleman was born 12/30/1898. Catherine married Walter Wade Robinson and died 04/26/1967. [Hook, 2002]
(541) Thomas Wilkes Coleman III was born 02/26/1900 and died 12/02/1977. Thomas married Living Allen. [Hook, 2002]
(542) withheld Coleman married Marietta Randolph who died 04/24/1983. [Hook, 2002]
(544) James Woodrow Coleman was born 07/27/1907 and died 07/23/1948. James married withheld Williams. [Hook, 2002]
(546) Mary Cordelia Coleman was born 12/16/1910 and died 01/20/1973. Mary married withheld Tucker. [Hook, 2002]
(516) Flavel Woodrow Coleman was born 03/28/1870 and died 06/22/1966. Flavel married Nannie McMillan. [Hook, 2002]
(516) Flavel Woodrow Coleman and wife Nannie McMillan had these children:
(547) 1. Nancy Coleman, b. c1901, d. c1936 (548) 2. withheld Coleman, b. c1903 (549) 3. withheld Coleman, b. c1906 (550) 4. Charles Hamilton Coleman, b. 11/09/1911, d. 09/04/1956 [Hook, 2002]
(547) Nancy Coleman was born c1901 and died c1936. Nancy married Thomas Brame Wilkinson, Jr. [Hook, 2002]
(548) withheld Coleman was born c1903 and married Robert Edmund V who died c1945. She then married Preston Brooks Lewis. [Hook, 2002]
(549) withheld Coleman was born c1906 and married withheld Raymond. [Hook, 2002]
(550) Charles Hamilton Coleman was born 9 NOV 1911 and died 4 SEP 1956. Charles married withheld Fulcher. [Hook, 2002]
(517) James Samuel Coleman was born 05/25/1873, near Akron, Alabama. He died 12/19/1963 at Eutaw, AL, and buried in Grassdale Cemetery. He married 09/20/1905 at York, AL to Mary Belle Peteet. He attended school at Eutaw and was appointed to Annapolis by Senator John B. Bankhead. From 1889 to 1894 he taught in Eutaw (the school being where the swimming pool now is). He later taught at Verner School in Tuscaloosa, then studied a year in Heidelberg, Germany, and Paris, France, after which he taught at State Normal School at Livingston, then was Commandant for five years at the Wright School, Mobile, and then principal of Selma Military School. [Coleman, 1965]
From l909 to 1945, he published the Green County Democrat at Eutaw. He was a Mason, a Presbyterian Elder (50 years) a member of the Board of Education, of the Kiwanis Club, and of the Twenty-Three Circle (of which he was really the founder). [Coleman, 1965]
(517) James Samuel Coleman and wife Mary Belle Peteet had these children:
(551) 1. James Samuel Coleman, a graduate of Annapolis, Justice of Alabama Supreme Court. (552) 2. Wilson McConnel Coleman, a graduate of Annapolis and Capt in U.S. Navy (553) 3. Charles Hamilton Coleman, lived in Dallas, TX (554) 4. John Woodrow Coleman, an attorney in Talladega, AL [Coleman, 1965]
(551) James Samuel Coleman, graduated from Annapolis, Justice of Alabama Supreme Court. Hook, 2002 indicates James married Mary Ruth Hobbs, who died c1975, and then married Eleanor Ruth Montgomery who died c1958.
(552) Wilson McConnel Coleman, graduated from Annapolis and was a captain in the U.S. Navy. Hook, 2002 indicates Wilson married withheld Collier.
(553) Charles Hamilton Coleman, lived in Dallas, TX Hook, 2002 indicates Charles married withheld Delucca.
(554) John Woodrow Coleman, an attorney in Talladega, AL Hook, 2002 indicates John married withheld Welch.
(518) Frances Jane Coleman was born 06/08/1875 and died 04/12/1965. Frances married Thomas Thompson Quarles. Thomas was born 03/23/1873 and died 03/12/1937. [Hook, 2002]
(519) Charles Hamilton Coleman was born 10/16/1877 and died 10/08/1916. [Hook, 2002]
(520) John Anderson Coleman was born 12/07/1880 and died 09/30/1954. John married Sue Innes Brumbach. [Hook, 2002]
(520) John Anderson Coleman and wife Sue Innes Brumbach had these children:
(555) 1. withheld Coleman married withheld WALLACE married withheld HODGES married withheld HODGES (556) 2. withheld Coleman married withheld SHAKESPEARE (557) 3. withheld Coleman married withheld GAY (558) 4. withheld Coleman married withheld COBER married withheld NOYES married withheld REDDING
(497) Bestor Coleman was born in 1836 or 1837 based on the 1850 U.S. Census of Greene County, AL. Bestor married Laura F Wynne on 12/20/1859 per the USGenWeb Greene County, AL web site list of early marriages from 1823-1860, and the LDS Family Search web site.
The LDS Family Search web site shows two records for (497) Bestor Coleman, son of James Cobb Coleman and Juliet Bestor. The first had him as born 02/18/1837, in La Grange, Troup Co, Georgia, and died 1868. The second had him as born 1837 in Eutaw, Greene Co, Alabama.
Further information about Bestor Coleman is found at: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/o/b/Diana-L-Cobb/PDFGENEO5.pdf. This chart gives no marriage or children, but ancestry, particularly as it relates to the Cobb Family.
(497) Bestor Coleman and wife Laura F. Wynne Coleman had children. Those found in the 1870 U.S. Census are listed below.
In 1870 U.S. Census for Hale County, AL, Greensboro P.O., page 126 there is listed the household of Laura F. Wynne Coleman:
(1176) 1. Fannie Coleman, b. c1862 in Greensboro, Hale Co., AL (1177) 2. Bestor W., b. c1864 in Greensboro, Hale Co., AL (1178) 3. John W., b. c1868 in Greensboro, Hale Co., AL
In 1880 U.S. Census for Hale County, AL, p. 391, we find Laura Coleman's offspring listed as:
(1176) 1. Fannie Coleman, dau. b. c1862 in Greensboro, Hale Co., AL (1177) 2. Wynne Coleman, son b. c1865 in Greensboro, Hale Co., AL (1217) 3. Fannie Scott, niece b. c1876 in Greensboro, Hale Co., AL
(1177) Bestor Wynne Coleman married Alice Unknown in 1901.
(1177) Bestor Wynne Coleman and wife Alice had these children
(1179) 1. Bestor Wynne Coleman, Jr. b. 12/17/1901, d. 8/??/1980 in Greensboro, Hale Co, AL per SS Death Index (1180) 2. Mary Coleman b. c1904 (1181) 3. Osmund A. Coleman b. 08/15/1905, d. 04/24/1997 in Greensboro, Hale Co, AL per SS Death Index (1182) 4. Alice Coleman b. c1910 (1183) 5. Harris M. Coleman b. c1914 (1184) 6. Laura W. Coleman b. c1917
In the U.S. Census of 1910, for Sawyerville, Hale Co., AL, page 139:
(1177) Coleman, Bestor W. Head Male White 45 mar. 9 yrs b. AL, Pa b. AL, Ma b. AL () Alice Wife Fem. White 39? mar. 9 yrs b. AL, Pa b. AL, Ma b. AL, mother of 4, all living now. (1179) Bestor W., Jr. son White 8 (1180) Mary ?. daughter White 6 (1181) Omun A. son White 4 (1182) Alice M.? daughter White 11/12
U.S. Census of 1920, for Sawyerville, Hale Co., AL, page 132:
(1177) Coleman, Bestor Wynne Head Male White 55 mar. b. AL Pa b. AL Ma b. AL () Alice Weston Wife Fem. White 49? mar. b. AL Pa b. AL Ma b. AL (1179) Bestor Wynne, Jr. son White 18 b. c1902 (1180) Mary ?. daughter White 16 b. c1904 (1181) Osmund son White 14 b. c1906 (1182) Alice daughter White 10 b. c1910 (1183) Harris son White 6 b. c1914 (1184) Laura daughter White 3 b. c1917
U.S. Census of 1930, for Sawyerville, Hale Co., AL, page 146:
House 304
(1177) Coleman, B. Wynne Head Male White 65 Widowed emp: Gen Farm (1181) Osmund B. son White 23 Single emp: Mail Carrier (1183) Harris M. son White 16 (1184) Laura W. daughter White 14
House 311
Coleman, Henry, Head
Louisa, Wife
M. Dolly Dau
E. Dill Dau
Rosa L. Dau
J. Henry, Jr. Son
Theodore Son
J. Thomas Son
W. Mable Dau
F. Lucile Grandchild
Taylor, Mary Mother in law
(1179) Bestor Wynne Coleman, Jr was born 12/17/1901.
He married Mary Esther Bordon. He died on 08/12/1980 in Alabama at 78 years of age.
[Coleman, Kim, 2008, personal correspondence]
(1179) Bestor Wynne Coleman, Jr and Mary Esther Bordon had these children:
(1185) 1. Bestor Wynne Coleman, III b. 04/??/1936 [Coleman, Kim, 2008, personal correspondence]
(498) Alice Coleman was born in 1838 or 1839.
(498) Alice Coleman and Dr. John Samuel Meriwether had:
(559) 1. Juliet Meriwether, b. 1861/62 in Greene Co., AL (560) 2. Lida Meriwether, b. 1864/65 in Greene Co., AL (561) 3. Mamy Meriwether, b. 1866/67 in Greene Co., AL (562) 4. Jno B. Meriwether, b. 1870/71 in Greene Co., AL (563) 5. Daisy Meriwether, b. 1872/73 in Greene Co., AL (564) 6. Willis J. Meriwether, b. 1876/77 in Greene Co., AL
[1880 U.S. Census for Greene County, AL]
The 1880 U.S. Census of Greene County, AL shows this family as follows:
No. Name Relation Marital Sex Race Age Birth Occupation Dad's Mom's
Status Place Birth Birth
Place Place
(498) Alice Meriwether Self W Female W 39 AL Keeping House NC CT
(559) Juliet Meriwether Dau S Female W 18 AL AL AL
(560) Lida Meriwether Dau S Female W 15 AL At School AL AL
(561) Mamy Meriwether Dau S Female W 13 AL At School AL AL
(562) Jno B. Meriwether Son S Male W 9 AL At School AL AL
(563) Daisy Meriwether Dau S Female W 7 AL AL AL
(564) Willis J. Meriwether Son S Male W 3 AL AL AL
Ezra T Coleman Nephew S Male W 18 AL Studying Law AL TN
(563) Daisy Meriwether married a Mr. Dunlap.
Alice and John were the grandparents of
(565) Mrs. Mary Morgan (Ward) (566) Glass William Riddle Ward, (567) John Meriwether Ward, (568) John S. "Bo" Meriwether, (569) Lida Meriwether Hall, (570) Sara Meriwether Humphries,
Alice and John were great grandparents of
(571) William Ryan deGraffenried (candidate for Governor of Alabama in one race.)
(500) James Cobb Coleman, Jr. was born in 1842, married by 1735 to H. D. Unknown, and died in 1912.
(500) James Cobb Coleman, Jr. had children that include:
(572) 1. J. C. Coleman, b. 1875/76 (573) 2. Louisa H. Coleman, b. 1876/77 (574) 3. Alice Coleman, b. 1878/79 (575) 4. Janie Coleman, b. after 1880 m. Mr. Kirksey(500) James Cobb Coleman was the grandfather of (576) Polly Coleman, m. Yarbrough.
In Springfield, in Greene County Alabama, in the 1880 U.S. Census we find the above family recorded thus:
| Name | Relation | Marital Status | Gender | Race | Age | Birthplace | Occupation | Father's Birthplace | Mother's Birthplace |
| J. C. Coleman | Self | M | Male | W | 38 | AL | Farmer | NC | NC |
| H. D. Coleman | Wife | M | Female | W | 29 | AL | Keeps House | NC | SC |
| J. C. Coleman | Son | S | Male | W | 4 | AL | AL | AL | |
| Louisa H Coleman | Dau | S | Female | W | 3 | AL | AL | AL | |
| Alice Coleman | Dau | S | Female | W | 1 | AL | AL | AL |
(501) Charles Coleman family appears in the 1880 U.S. Census. (501) Charles Coleman married Laura Pollard. Laura was born about 1848 to Lewis Franklin Pollard and Julia Wilder [Alexander, 2003]. Lewis and Julia were married May 12, 1847 [Greene County, AL Marriages 1823 - 1860].
(501) Charles Coleman and wife Laura Pollard had these children:
(577) 1. Bester Coleman, b. 1870/71 in AL (578) 2. Laura Coleman, b. 1873/74 in AL (579) 3. Ella Coleman, b. 1875/76 in AL (580) 4. Juliet Coleman, b. 1878/79 in AL
In the 1880 U.S. Census for Eutaw, Greene County, AL, we find the Charles Coleman family listed:
| Name | Relation | Marital Status | Gender | Race | Age | Birthplace | Occupation | Father's Birthplace | Mother's Birthplace |
| Charles Coleman | Self | M | Male | W | 34 | ALA | Druggest | NC | CT |
| Laura Coleman | Other | M | Female | W | 31 | ALA | Keeping House | NC | ALA |
| Bester Coleman | Other | S | Male | W | 9 | ALA | At School | ALA | ALA |
| Laura Coleman | Other | S | Female | W | 6 | ALA | ALA | ALA | |
| Ella Coleman | Other | S | Female | W | 4 | ALA | ALA | ALA | |
| Juliet Coleman | Other | S | Female | W | 1 | ALA | ALA | ALA | |
| D. Victor Duncan | Other | W <Widowed> | Male | W | 31 | ALA | Retail Grocer | SC | ALA |
| Bella Houston | Other | M | Female | B <Black> | 35 | ALA | Servant | --- | --- |
| Howard Patton | Other | Male | B <Black> | 40 | ALA | Servant | --- | --- |
(502) Harvey Coleman, was born in 1848 and died in 1910. Harvey married Emma Allen. Emma was born in 1851 and died in 1875. [DAR Record 95982].
(502) Harvey Coleman and wife Emma Allen had this child:
(581) Alice Coleman, m. E. B. McDowell; Alice submitted the DAR application no. 95982. Alice was born in Hale County, Ala.
(487) Rebecca Coleman was born c1815 and died c1891. Rebecca married Ebenezer Pettigrew.
(487) Rebecca Coleman Pettigrew, widowed is listed in 1880 in Springfield, Greene Co., AL with an unknown nephew, Charles Coleman, born in 1868 or 1869.
| R. C. Pettigrew | Self | W <Widowed> | Female | W | 56 | NC | Keep House | NC | NC |
| Charley Coleman | Nephew | S | Male | W | 11 | AL | In School | AL | AL |
(488) Judge Wiley Coleman was born in 1819 and died in 1892. The 1880 U.S. Census for Eutaw, Greene County, AL lists his household with sister Rhoda Coleman and nephew, James O. Banks:
| Name | Relation | Marital Status | Gender | Race | Age | Birthplace | Occupation | Father's Birthplace | Mother's Birthplace |
| Wiley Coleman | Self | S | Male | W | 70 | NC | Resigned Lawyer | NC | NC |
| Rhoda Coleman | Sister | S | Female | W | 50 | ALA | Keeping House | NC | NC |
| James O. Banks | Nephew | S | Male | W | 14 | MS | At School | ALA | ALA |
(489) Bester Coleman was born c1825 and died c1852. Bester married Laura Wynne.
(489) Bester Coleman and wife Laura Wynne had this child:
(582) 1. Frances Wynne Coleman
(582) Frances Wynne Coleman married Thomas R. Ward.
(490) Mary Coleman married Amos Travis, Jr. Amos was the born on 05/28/1805 in Georgia, the son of Amos Travis and Frances Pierce. After Mary's death, Amos married her sister, (494) Eliza Coleman [Hook, 2002b]. The USGenWeb site for Greene County, AL provides a list of early marriages that lists Mary Coleman and Amos Travis as married on 12/27/1832. Amos died 08/02/1886 near Livingston, AL.
(492) Rhoda Coleman was born in 1829 and died in 1900.
(493) Martha Jane Coleman on 01/28/1852 married James Oliver Banks. [Greene County Alabama GenWeb Site] Martha Jane Coleman and husband James Oliver Banks had:
(583) James Oliver Banks, Jr., b. 1865, d. 1941, in 1888 married Julia Coleman.
(583) James Oliver Banks, Jr. and Julia Coleman Banks had:
(584) Wilkes Banks, (585) Ellen Gray Banks, married Mr. Humphries, (586) Willis Banks, (587) Hampden Jack Banks (588) Ralph Banks ["Greene County Democrat," Eutaw, Alabama, June 11, 1964.]
(494) Eliza Ann Coleman married Amos Travis, Jr. after his first wife, Mary Coleman, Eliza's sister, had died. Eliza and Amos Travis, Jr. were married on 05/25/1838 in Eutaw, AL. Eliza (Coleman) Travis died 04/26/1896 at the Travis plantation, Oakford, near Livingston, Alabama. [Hook, 2002b] The USGenWeb site for Greene County, AL provides a list of early marriages that lists this couple's marriage on 05/25/1837.
(494) Eliza Ann Coleman and husband Amos Travis, Jr. had these children:
(589) 1. Thaddeus A. Travis, b. 1836, died in infancy. (590) 2. Mary Ann Coleman Travis, b. 05/10/1837, d. 09/22/1923 in Fresno, CA, buried at Forest Lawn Cemetery in Glendale, CA (591) 3. Seaborn Travis, b. 1841, died in infancy. (592) 4. Thaddeus A. Travis, b. 1843, d. 11/07/1877 in Las Lunas, NM evidently a murder victim of a cattle rustler. served in the Civil War. (593) 5. John Coleman Travis, b. 1845, died in infancy. (594) 6. Martha Eliza "Lida" Travis, b. 1844, d. 1876 in Gilroy, CA. (595) 7. Seaborn Travis, b. 1849, d. 1866 in St. Louis, MO. (596) 8. Kate Irene Travis, b. 05/03/1851, d. 02/01/1915 in Santa Monica, CA. (597) 9. J. Coleman Travis, b. 1853, d. 1919 in Orange, CA (598) 10. Charles P. Travis, b. 1855, d. 1862 of measles in Gainesville, AL. (599) 11. James Banks Travis, b. 1857, d. c1905 in Los Angeles CA. (600) 12. Wiley Coleman Travis, b. 1859, d. 12/27/1916 in Primrose, AL. (601) 13. Jesse Cobb Travis, b. 1861, d. 01/??/1929 (suicide) in Livingston, AL.
After the Civil War the whole family moved out to Orange, CA to join the oldest daughter, Mary (Travis) Van de Graaff, who had been widowed shortly after moving there with her husband and son. The family traveled by way of the land route across the Ithmus of Panama before the Canal was built. The parents missed Alabama and returned with the two youngest sons some time in the 1870's.
(590) Mary Ann Coleman Travis married Abram Sebastian Van de Graaff on 01/27/1857 at Gainesville AL. He was born 06/27/1832 in Erie, AL, and died 05/28/1868 at Los Angeles CA. He was the son of William Van de Graaff and Juliette Ewing. (590) Mary Ann Coleman Travis and husband Abram Sebastian Van de Graaff had the following children:
(602) 1. Juliette Eliza Van de Graaff, b. 12/02/1857 at Gainesville AL, d. 07/07/1858. (603) 2. Adrian Sebastian Van de Graaff, b. 05/12/1859 at Gainesville AL, d. 05/18/1922 at Birmingham AL, buried Evergreen Cemetery, Tuscaloosa AL. (604) 3. William Regnet Van de Graaff, b. 10/29/1860 at Gainesville AL, d. 10/28/1861. (605) 4. Alida Samlant Van de Graaff, b. 02/17/1868 at Los Angeles CA, d. 07/07/1896 at Tuscaloosa AL.
(603) Adrian Sebastian Van de Graaff, married Minnie Cherokee Hargrove on 07/17/1890 at Tuscaloosa AL. Minnie was born 11/12/1866 at Tuscaloosa AL, the daughter of Andrew Coleman Hargrove and Cherokee Mims Jemison.
Andrew Coleman Hargrove was the son of John Harris Hargrove, who the son of Rev. Thomas Dudley Hargrove (originally from Greensville Co. VA I believe, but moved to Alabama by way of Georgia) and Mary Elizabeth Coleman, daughter of Daniel Coleman and Susannah Harris. There is no known connection between Daniel Coleman and the Nansemond Colemans from whom Charles Coleman of Greene County, Alabama are thought to be descended.
(603) Adrian Sebastian Van de Graaff and wife Minnie Cherokee Hargrove had the following children:
(606) 1. Adrian Van Vinceler Van de Graaff, b. 09/06/1891 at Tuscaloosa AL, d. 03/14/1936 at Tuscaloosa. (607) 2. Coleman Hargrove Van de Graaff, b. 09/07/1893, d. 01/02/1938 in MS. (608) 3. William Travis Van de Graaff, b. 10/27/1895, d. 04/26/1977 at Penrose, CO. (609) 4. Cherokee Van de Graaff, b. 07/15/1898, d. 03/21/1934 at Richmond, VA. (610) 5. Robert Jemison Van de Graaff, b. 20 Dec 1901, d. 01/??/1967 at Boston MA.
(610) Robert Jemison Van de Graaff was the inventor of the Van de Graaff electrostatic generator. The early children were probably born at the Travis plantation near Livingston AL, the later ones at their home in Gainesville, AL.
(479) William "Wiley" Coleman was born 03/09/1783 in Edgecombe County, North Carolina. Wiley died on 11/28/1822. He married Martha Cobb who died in 1864. Wiley settled in Bibb County Alabama while his brother, John, settled in Greene County Alabama. Their parents, Charles Coleman and Mary Roundtree went on to Greene County, Alabama with John where they shortly passed away and were buried.
The Bibb County, AL GenWeb site has photos of the grave of (479) "Willie" Coleman located in Centerville Memorial Cemetery, in the community of Four Points, just West of downtown Centerville, AL. His grave stone shows dates almost matching those given above: 03/09/1783 - 11/25/1822.
The only other Coleman grave indexed there is for Sarah Coleman, 04/10/1812 - 08/11/1825, who died just 13 years old. I imagine this was a daughter of William and Martha Coleman.
An additional supplemental inventory of the estate of Wiley Coleman was filed in Bibb County on 07/25/1826, recorded in Administrator's Book "C". The inventory lists administrators Robert Hill, in right of his wife, and Alexander Hill. It then lists children of Wiley Coleman and their spouses at this time:
Robert Hill husband of Martha Coleman, deceased, relict of Willie Coleman, David R. Boyd and Trecy, his wife, Rhoda Coleman, the representatives of Sarah Coleman, deceased, John B. Coleman, Penelope Coleman, Robert Coleman, Mary Coleman, Willie Coleman, Willie J.[James] Coleman, Martha Ann Coleman[Gandrud, Alabama Records, Vol 232, pg 47]
James Coleman is listed as an infant son of Willie Coleman, an orphan, pg 229 of Admin Bk "C".
[Note: "orphan" had a legal definition in that period quite apart from its use today.]
[Gandrud, Alabama Records, Vol 232, pg 48]
The only next of kin listed for Sarah Coleman, daughter of Wiley Coleman, were
brothers and sisters (she being just 13 years old at the time of death). Listed
were David R. Boyd and Treece, his wife, formerly Coleman; Penelope Coleman,
John B. Coleman, Mary Coleman, Robert Coleman, Martha Ann Coleman, Robert E. Coleman.
[Gandrud, Alabama Records, Vol 232, pg 51]
(479) William "Wiley" Coleman and wife Martha Cobb had these children:
(1313) 1. Theresa "Trecy" Coleman, b. 01/28/1809, Edgecombe Co, NC; d. 12/08/1850 Centerville, Bibb Co, AL (1314) 2. Sarah Coleman, b. 04/10/1812, d. 08/11/1825 (1315) 3. Penelope Coleman, b. c1813 (1316) 4. John B. Coleman, b. c1815 (611) 5. Mary Coleman, b. 1816 (1317) 6. Robert E. Coleman, b. c1817 (612) 7. Martha Ann Coleman, b. 1820 (613) 8. Wiley Coleman, b. 1821, See Chapter 44 (1318) 9. William James Coleman, b. 1825
There may have been another daughter, Jane Coleman, or one of the above may have been going by the name later, for there is a record of a marriage of Jane Coleman to Berry or Benj. Numan or Newman. [Gandrud, Alabama Records, Vol 166, pg 79, transcribing Bibb County, AL Marriage Book "D", pg 293]
(1313) Theresa "Trecy" Coleman was born 1/28/1809,
She married David R. Boyd,
[on 09/21/1824, per
Early Marriages of Bibb County, a web site based on Gandrud's
Alabama Records Volumes and original records in the
Alabama State Archives in Montgomery, AL.]
who appears in records of Bibb County along with Colemans.
David R. Boyd died prior to May 1839,
when Treecy Boyd is shown as his widow, and
married second George W. Howard
on 05/09/1839.
[Gandrud, Alabama Records, Vol 160, pg 62 and Vol 166, pg 11]
The U.S. Census for Bibb County, AL, of 1850 lists family #16 as:
Howard, Geo. W. 51, NC Farmer, $4000 (age 48 per tombstone, b. 1802)
Theresa 42, NC (age 38 per tombstone, b. 1812)
Benj B. 17, AL (b. c1833)
Martha R. 16, AL (b. c1834)
Mary E. 8, AL (b. c1842)
Wiley G. 2, AL (b. c1848)
Rady J. 8/12, AL (b. 1849)
Barratt, Lewis 24, SC laborer
From the above, it appears that (1313) Theresa "Trecy" Coleman Boyd Howard and first husband, David R. Boyd, had these children:
(1378) 1. Benjamin B. Boyd, b. c1833, Bibb Co, AL (1379) 2. Martha R. Boyd, b. c1834, Bibb Co, AL
From the above, it appears that (1313) Theresa "Trecy" Coleman Boyd Howard and second husband, George W. Howard, had these children:
(1380) 3. Mary E. Howard, b. c1842, Bibb Co, AL (1381) 4. Wilie G. Howard, b. c1848, Bibb Co, AL (1382) 5. Rady J. Howard, b. c1849, Bibb Co, AL
Theresa died 12/08/1850 at the age of 41 years. Her grave is in the Centerville Memorial Cemetery, west of Centerville, in Bibb Co, AL. It reads:
Theresa, daughter of Wilie and Martha Coleman, Consort of George W. Howard, born 28 Jan 1809 in Edgecombe County, NC, departed this life 8 Dec 1850, an affectionate wife, kind and indulgent neighbor, and true Christian.Next to her lies her first husband, David R. Boyd, 3/30/1802 - 8/12/1835.
Though there is no known connection, there was a John R. Coleman who died in Bibb County, AL with a large estate valued at $16751.80. Heirs listed were:
Grayfield Gosie, in right of wife Sally Coleman, Robert Coleman Daniel Coleman William Coleman, in right of wife Elizabeth Coleman, (two Colemans married in this case) Charner Colvin in right of wife Mary Coleman, John G. Coleman, Giles C. Coleman, Henry McElroy, in right of wife Dorcas Coleman, Leyton Upchurch, in right of wife Nancy Coleman, Elijah J. Coleman[Alabama Records, Vol 180, by Gandrud, pg 50]
Leyton Upchurch married Nancy Coleman 1/20/1831.
[Alabama Records, Vol 20, by Gandrud, pg 77]
Sarah "Sally" Coleman Gosa, 1791-1852, tombstone
was recorded. In 1850, she was 56, born in SC.
[Alabama Records, Vol 69, pg 15.]
So, it appears (1314) Sarah Coleman
was born in 1791,
married Grayfield Gosa,
and died in 1852.
(611) Mary Coleman was born 1816. On 02/29/1832 Mary Coleman married Jacob Mayberry. Jacob was born 01/03/1786 and died 12/24/1851.
The above marriage was recorded in Greene County, AL, the next day, 03/01/1832.
Creswell, M.G., officiated.
[Gandrud, Alabama Records, Vol 232, p 18; Vol 20, p 85]
Mary was daughter of Wiley and Patsey Coleman. Apparently Martha Cobb, wife of Wiley Coleman, also was known by the name Patsey.
(611) Mary Coleman and husband Jacob Mayberry had this child:
(614) 1. Jacob Dennis Mayberry, b. 06/24/1844, d. 06/29/1921
(614) Jacob Dennis Mayberry married Clara Jane Thomas. Clara was born 02/25/1855 and died 08/24/1917.
(614) Jacob Dennis Mayberry and wife Clara Jane Thomas had this child:
(615) 1. Ella Olivia Mayberry, b. 06/08/1884, d. 01/20/1944
(615) Ella Olivia Mayberry married Robert Guy Redden. Robert was born 02/16/1882 and died 08/24/1917.
(615) Ella Olivia Mayberry and husband Robert Redden had these children:
(616) 1. withheld Redden married withheld Easterly (617) 2. withheld Redden married withheld Guyton (618) 3. withheld Redden married withheld Redden married withheld Kaple (619) 4. withheld Redden married withheld Shepherd married withheld Morris----------
Full Name of Person Date in Co. Record Source Notes
(477) Coleman, Charles 01 Dec 1823 Land Record Old St Stephens Land Office
(477) Coleman, Charles 28 Jan 1824 Will Probate The Deceased; A Rev. War Soldier
(479) Coleman, John 28 Jan 1824 Will Probated Adult Son of Deceased
It is worthy of note that there were two Charles Colemans in Greene County, AL in 1823. Charles P. Coleman, not a descendant of Robert Coleman of Nansemond County, VA; may easily be confused with (477) Charles Coleman who married Mary Roundtree. In order to clarify the two, I cite this brief synopsis of Charles P. Coleman as given on page 71 of J. P. Coleman's work:
CHARLES P. COLEMAN, SON OF THOMAS COLEMAN
Born, Halifax County, North Carolina, October 4, 1762. Died, Greene County, Alabama, December 27, 1850.
Revolutionary soldier. According to the records in the National Archives, he enlisted in Lincoln County, North Carolina, June, 1780. Discharged April, 1782. Was in the battles of Cowan's Ford, Guilford Court House and Eutaw Springs.
He moved to Georgia in 1789, to Kentucky in 1806, to Mississippi territory in 1812, and to Alabama in 1818.
He was married to Fanny Mobley in Greene County on March 8, 1829, at the age of 67. Fanny was then 45 years of age, so his children, John R. Coleman and Mrs. Judith Person, wife of David Person, must have been by a previous marriage.
It may be that (485) Charles Coleman, son of (477) Charles Coleman and Mary Roundtree,
is the Charles H. Coleman who married Priscilla Ann Hutton, 02/14/1828 in Greene Co, AL.
[Gandrud, Alabama Records, Vol 17, pg 72, per Vol 120, pg 51.]
The estate of Charles H. Coleman, deceased 184-, as excerpted by Gandrud, Vol 120, pg 51, lists his widow, Priscilla Ann Coleman, and children:
Martha A. who married Moses H. Person, had child Edward Coleman Person; Acquilla H. Coleman, John R. Coleman, Permellia E. Coleman, Charles C. ColemanJohn, Permellia, Charles and Edward are listed as minors in Greene County, AL July 3, 1848.
[Gandrud, Alabama Records, Vol 120, pg 51.]Priscilla probably had a brother Acquilla Hutton, who is listed with Charles H. Coleman, Samuel T. Cherry, Robert Craig, and William D. George as appraisers of the William McNeese estate on 03/12/1838, Book "D".
[Gandrud, Alabama Records, Vol 180, pg 67.]Priscilla is listed without her husband, Charles Coleman, in the 1850 U.S. Census of Greene County, AL, pg 267A, family #455, but with these children:
1. Aquilla b. c1832, AL, probably named for his uncle, Aquilla Hutton 2. John R. b. c1834, AL 3. Permelia b. c1837, AL 4. Charles C. b. c1839, ALJohn R. Coleman had a son John G. Coleman who married Miss Elizabeth Coleman on 11/03/1841, Jeremiah Pearsall, minister of the gospel, presided. John was 34 born in SC, Elizabeth was 22 born in GA.
[Gandrud, Alabama Records, Vol 120, pg 11.]Permelia Coleman, above, married Macklen Nusom (Newsome) Cockrell, son of Nathan Cockrell and Nancy Williams of Eutaw. Macklen was born 1/29/1830 and served as a private in the CSA. Macklen, from Eutaw, AL, enrolled in the Univ. of AL in 1847 and listed in class of 1848. He engaged in planting. He died 10/08/1887.
[Gandrud, Alabama Records, Vol 180, pg 14.]It may be that (1318) William James Coleman, b. 1825, who was listed as an orphan, infant son of Wiley Coleman after Wiley's death in 1824, may be that James W. Coleman who married Christina Horne 09/19/1855 with Daniel Ward, M.G., officiating, as recorded in Bibb County, AL Marriage Book "E", pg 124.
[Gandrud, Alabama Records, Vol 232, pg 91.]There was an Isham Jefferson Coleman in Bibb County, AL who married Mary Elizabeth Ray, on 11/27/1823. He was born 10/16/1803 in Virginia, she in Georgia in 1807. He was the son of Isham Coleman and Ann "Emily" Roper of Dinwiddie County, VA. But Isham and Emily died and were buried in Hancock County, Georgia. Mary Ray was the daughter of William and Elizabeth Ray, who show in the 1850 Census in Taladega, AL, family no. 1056 in the home of William Lowry. In 1850, Isham had a brother, John Goodwin Coleman who died in Hancock Co, GA. The two brothers settled an estate and were living in Hancock Co, GA prior to 1823. Mary Elizabeth Ray Coleman died in Columbia, Louisiana in 1857. Isham Jefferson Coleman and Mary Elizabeth Ray of Bibb Co, AL had these children:
1. William Gooden Coleman, (not found in 1850 Jackson Parish, LA Census) 2. Martha Elizabeth Coleman, 3. Frances Marilla Coleman, b. 1829, married William Unknown, 4. John Coleman (does not appear in 1850 Jackson Parish, LA Census), 5. Thomas Marion Coleman, b. 1832 (grave records), d. 9/29/1879, married Nora Johnson, 6. Mary Coleman, b. 1836 7. Sarah Aldine Coleman, b. 1837, d. bur. Ebenezer Cem., LA, married Samuel Horn. [coincidentally, a James W. Coleman married Christianna Horne, 09/19/1855, in Bibb Co, AL] 8. Georgia Ann Coleman, b. 1838 9. Martin Coleman, b 1841 10. Horacie Coleman, b 1843, appears as Orasha in 1850 Census of Jackson Par., LA 11. Louisiana "Lucy" Coleman, b 1844, d. 01/27/1896, bur. Silann, LA Cem., married Newton H. Hagler 12. Louizia "Louisa or Lousa" Coleman, b. 1849 13. Alice Ray Coleman, b. 09/27/1853, d. 05/07/1924, mar. 05/02/1880 to Unknown Bumpas.[Gandrud Alabama Records, Vol 160, pg 95.]One website also listed these marriages of Colemans in Bibb County before 1825:
David Coleman to Elizabeth Ray in Bibb County, AL, 09/15/1822. John Coleman to Susanna Blankenship in Bibb County, AL, 06/20/1822[ Alabama Marriage Records before 1825 Co]Since there is no connection to Robert Coleman of Nansemond County, VA, I will not recite the voluminous details about the above family which can be found online, but will give the links here for any who may be interested:
Horton-Brown-Kent.GED, by Birl Randolph Brown, Sr.
Selected Families and Individuals, on tripod.comThere was a marriage of John B. Coleman to Elenor M. A. Crawford in Bibb Co, AL on 03/12/1834 in the evening by E. McElroy, J.P. Consent was given by C. H. Coleman, as guardian of John B. Coleman, and Thomas Crawford, father of Elenor. She was the niece of Mrs. Anna Crawford Woodruff, Vol 200, pg 56.
The will of Ann Woodruff lists relations as follows
Nephew, James W. Crawford Niece, Eleanor M. A. Crawford Niece, Margaret M. Bernhard Nephew, Thomas P. Crawford Niece, Jane A. Crawfordsigned 08/04/1843 [Gandrud Alabama Records, Vol 200, pp. 55, 56.]There was a marriage of Anny Crawford to Nathan Woodruff dated 05/20/1828.
[ Early Marriages of Bibb County, a web site based on Gandrud's Alabama Records Volumes and original records in the Alabama State Archives in Montgomery, AL.]There was a marriage of
There was an John R. Coleman who died in Bibb County, AL whose estate was probated 08/28/1837. His wife is listed as Sally. They had these children per his estate settlement
Robert Coleman, (b. c1798) Daniel Coleman, (b. c1800) Elizabeth Coleman (b. c1802) who married William Coleman, Mary Coleman (b. c1804) who married Chavner Colvin, John G. Coleman, (b. c1806) Giles C. Coleman, (b. c1808) Dorcas Coleman (b. c1810) who married Henry McElroy, Nancy Coleman (b. 1812, SC per 1850 Census) who married Leyton Upchurch 1/20/1831,[Gandrud Alabama Records, Vol 180, pg 50; recording Bibb County Book "D"]A widow's pension application was made for Mary Colemna, widow of Jacob Mayberry. John Boyd and Penelope West testify on her behalf. Penelope was present at the wedding of Mary Coleman and Jacob Mayberry.
[Gandrud Alabama Records, Vol 232, pg 16]Mary Coleman and Jacob Mayberry were married in Greene County, AL on 03/01/1832 by Creswell, a Minister of the Gospel (M.G.). Mary was the daughter of Wiley and Patsey Coleman
[Gandrud Alabama Records, Vol 232, pg 16; Vol 20, pg 85]Sarah Coleman, deceased 10/05/1825. David R. Boyd, John Henry, Walter C. Duff, and Samuel Woodruff, securities.
[Gandrud Alabama Records, Vol 232, pg 45; recording entries in Bibb County, Alabama Administrator's Book "C", pg 188]Sarah Coleman, deceased, commissioners: John Hunt, Jacob Mayberry, Michael Purtle, Hopkins Lee and Henry Potts. John B. Coleman and Penelope Coleman named.
RETURN HERE to RECORD pg 104 entries beginning with pg 47 (pg 214 of admin's book)
[Gandrud Alabama Records, Vol 232, pg 46; recording entries in Bibb County, Alabama Administrator's Book "C", pg 206]A list of Colemans in early court records of Greene County is given below without respect to whether there is a known relation to the Nansemond group or not.
Notes Full Name of Person Date in Co. Record Source Notes Coleman, Charles H. 11 Feb 1828 Marriage Recorded Married Priscilla Ann Hutton Coleman, Charles H. 31 Jul 1826 Land Record Old St Stephens Land Office NR Coleman, Charles P. 11 Apr 1829 Land Record Old St Stephens Land Office NR Coleman, Charles P. 21 Feb 1829 Marriage Recorded Married Fanny Mobly (477) Coleman, Charles 01 Dec 1823 Land Record Old St Stephens Land Office (477) Coleman, Charles 28 Jan 1824 Will Probate The Deceased; A Rev. War Soldier Coleman, James C. 23 Nov 1830 Marriage Recorded Married Martha Ann Anderson NR Coleman, John R. 24 Nov 1823 Land Record Old St Stephens Land Office (478) Coleman, John 28 Jan 1824 Will Probated Adult Son of Deceased Coleman, Lucy 21 Feb 1827 Marriage Recorded Married Ebenezer Whiting Coleman, Malena 1829 Marriage Recorded Married Ebenezar Pettigrew Coleman, Martha W. 04 May 1826 Marriage Recorded Married Abner Evans Coleman, Penelope 15 Dec 1829 Marriage Recorded Married Geo. H. Carnathan Coleman, Radford E. 17 Jul 1826 Land Record Old St Stephens Land Office Coleman, Radford E. 1831 Child Born in AL b. 1792 --; Died 1844 Greene Co. Coleman, Wilson 25 Aug 1828 Marriage Recorded Married Mary Johnston The list above was found at http://home.earthlink.net/~rodbush/galffam2.htm except the Notes column was added. The note "NR" means "No Relation".----------
Side Note 2:
While at the Library of Congress, I found this in theDaughters of the American Revolution - Lineage Book 96: "MRS. ALICE COLEMAN McDOWELL. 95982 Born in Hale County, Ala. Wife of E. B. McDowell. Descendant of Charles Coleman, as follows: 1. Harvey Coleman (1848-1910) m. 1st 1868 Emma Allen (1851-75) 2. James Cobb Coleman (1810-68) m. 2nd 1836 Juliet Bestor (1811-59) 3. John Coleman (1781-1852) m. 1807 Rhoda Cobb (1793-1863) 4. Charles Coleman m. 1765 Mary Roundtree (1750-1821) "Charles Coleman (1744-1824) served as quartermaster in the third North Carolina regiment. He was born in Edgecomb County, NC; died in Green[e] County, Ala. Also No. 40171."-----------
Side Note 3:Charles Coleman b.1750-55 in NC unit m.Mary Roundtree [per The Coleman Family, by the American Genealogical Research Institute listing for the veterans of the Revolutionary War.]----------- J.P. Coleman, 1965 reprints an article taken from the Eutaw Democrat in his book and then makes these remarks following it:The foregoing newspaper article is an excellent report on those Colemans in Greene County Alabama, who migrated there from Edge- combe County, North Carolina. They were descended from Robert Coleman of Nansemond County, Virginia, and his sons or grandsons, William Coleman and Robert Coleman. The Nansemond County records have been destroyed and the particular genealogy of that County can only be put together from fragmentary sources. I wish to pay special tribute to Mr. James Samuel Coleman, men- tioned in the above article, who died December 19, 1963. Early in my efforts to locate the history of the Colemans I went to Eutaw, Alabama, met Mr. Coleman, and had a most delightful visit with him, including a visit to the beautiful cemetery at Grassdale. Later he gave me a copy of his autobiography, which my secretary typed. This was a most interesting life story and ought to be published. Miss Mary Ellen Coleman, sister of James Samuel Coleman, kept up a keen interest in genealogy. I once ran across some of her writings at the book store of The Genealogical Publishing Company in Baltimore. I purchased them and gave them to her nephew, Judge James S. Coleman, now of the Alabama Supreme Court. The history of this large and able family would afford sufficient material for a book within itself.What a resource J.P. Coleman found! And if only I could obtain it for building the facts to be recorded in this book! ============================================
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Index to Names appearing in the U.S. Census of Greene County, Alabama found on the ALGenWeb Greene County web site on Tues, 23 Jul 2002 by the author. [ 1850 U.S. Census Index for Greene County AL]
Notes Page Line Last Naem First Name Age BirthPlace File Name 259B 1 Coleman Mary Ann 26 AL pg0255b.txt (478) 269A 12 Coleman John 69 NC pg0267a.txt 269A 13 Coleman Rhoda 59 NC pg0267a.txt (492) 269A 14 Coleman Rhoda E. 19 AL pg0267a.txt (493) 269A 15 Coleman Martha J. 18 AL pg0267a.txt (491) 269A 17 Coleman Daniel P. 22 AL pg0267a.txt 271B 7 Coleman John G. 34 SC pg0267a.txt 271B 8 Coleman Isabella J. 22 Geo pg0267a.txt 271B 9 Coleman Adella C. 2 AL pg0267a.txt 273B 21 Coleman Priscilla A. 39 SC pg0267a.txt 273B 22 Coleman Aquilla 18 AL pg0267a.txt 273B 23 Coleman John R. 16 AL pg0267a.txt 273B 24 Coleman Permelia 13 AL pg0267a.txt 273B 25 Coleman Charles C. 11 AL pg0267a.txt 287A 14 Coleman Griffin B. 37 SC pg0278b.txt 288A 38 Coleman Wiley 30 NC pg0278b.txt (486) 291B 7 Coleman James C. 39 NC pg0290a.txt 291B 8 Coleman Juliet B. 36 CT pg0290a.txt (495) 291B 9 Coleman Julia F. 17 AL pg0290a.txt (497) 291B 10 Coleman Buster 13 AL pg0290a.txt (498) 291B 11 Coleman Allice 11 AL pg0290a.txt (499) 291B 12 Coleman John 9 AL pg0290a.txt (500) 291B 13 Coleman James C. 7 AL pg0290a.txt (501) 291B 14 Coleman Charles 5 AL pg0290a.txt (502) 291B 15 Coleman Harrey 3 AL pg0290a.txt 296B 12 Coleman Albert 24 SC pg0290a.txt 296B 13 Coleman Martha E. 14 AL pg0290a.txt 296B 27 Coleman David H. 55 SC pg0290a.txt 296B 28 Coleman Sarah 51 SC pg0290a.txt 296B 29 Coleman Edith 19 AL pg0290a.txt 296B 30 Coleman David R. 16 AL pg0290a.txt 296B 31 Coleman Wiley F. 15 AL pg0290a.txt 321A 27 Coleman Thomas 17 AL pg0313a.txt 325B 16 Coleman Elizabeth 55 KY pg0324b.txt 325B 17 Coleman Mary J. 22 AL pg0324b.txt 325B 18 Coleman Robert B. 20 AL pg0324b.txt 325B 19 Coleman William W. 18 AL pg0324b.txt 328B 10 Coleman Catharine 52 SC pg0324b.txt 328B 11 Coleman William 18 AL pg0324b.txt 328B 12 Coleman Reuben 13 AL pg0324b.txt 337A 29 Coleman Elizabeth 55 SC pg0336a.txt 337A 30 Coleman Isabella C. 36 SC pg0336a.txt 337A 31 Coleman Elizabeth 25 AL pg0336a.txt 337A 32 Coleman William F. 20 AL pg0336a.txt 337A 33 Coleman Robert M. 17 AL pg0336a.txt 341A 8 Coleman Mary 43 SC pg0336a.txt 341A 9 Coleman Elizabeth 21 AL pg0336a.txt 341A 10 Coleman Martha 18 AL pg0336a.txt 341A 11 Coleman Wiley J. 16 AL pg0336a.txt 341A 12 Coleman Edith 14 AL pg0336a.txt 341A 13 Coleman Mary 13 AL pg0336a.txt 341A 14 Coleman Nancy 11 AL pg0336a.txt 341A 15 Coleman Laura 4 AL pg0336a.txt 341B 25 Coleman Susan 29 AL pg0336a.txt NR 342A 12 Coleman Charles P. 90 NC pg0336a.txt NR 342A 13 Coleman Fanny 56 SC pg0336a.txt NR 342A 14 Coleman Giles C. 40 SC pg0336a.txt NR 342A 15 Coleman Susan 29 AL pg0336a.txt NR 342A 16 Coleman Mary E. 12 AL pg0336a.txt NR 342A 17 Coleman John 10 AL pg0336a.txt NR 342A 18 Coleman Sarah J. 8 AL pg0336a.txt NR 342A 19 Coleman Isabella 4 AL pg0336a.txt NR 342A 20 Coleman Thomas 3 AL pg0336a.txt NR 342A 21 Coleman Francis 1 AL pg0336a.txt 352B 10 Coleman Mourning 62 SC pg0347b.txt 352B 11 Coleman Robert 37 SC pg0347b.txt 352B 12 Coleman John 23 SC pg0347b.txt === From the same site, the ftp server provides transcripts of the 1850 U.S. Census for Greene County, selected pages, that show: CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE or TERRITORY: AL COUNTY: Greene DIVISION: Clinton Beat REEL NO: M432-6 PAGE NO: 269A REFERENCE: F. P. Strother 9th day of Nov. 1850 LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. VAL. BIRTHPLACE MRD. SCH. R/W DDB 12 390 390 Coleman John 69 M Farmer 14,696 NC 13 390 390 Coleman Rhoda 59 F NC 14 390 390 Coleman Rhoda E. 19 F AL 15 390 390 Coleman Martha J. 18 F AL 16 390 390 Johnson James H. 22 M Overseer VA 17 391 391 Coleman Daniel P. 22 M Farmer AL CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE or TERRITORY: AL COUNTY: Greene DIVISION: Clinton Beat REEL NO: M432-6 PAGE NO: 271B REFERENCE: F. P. Strother 18th day of Nov. 1850 LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. VAL. BIRTHPLACE MRD. SCH. R/W DDB 7 424 424 Coleman John G. 34 M Farmer 2,250 SC 8 424 424 Coleman Isabella J. 22 F Geo 9 424 424 Coleman Adella C. 2 F AL CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE or TERRITORY: AL COUNTY: Greene DIVISION: Pleasant Ridge Beat REEL NO: M432-6 PAGE NO: 273B REFERENCE: F. P. Strother 19th day of Nov. 1850 LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. VAL. BIRTHPLACE MRD. SCH. R/W DDB 21 455 455 Coleman Priscilla A. 39 F 3,000 SC 22 455 455 Coleman Aquilla 18 M Student AL X 23 455 455 Coleman John R. 16 M Student AL X 24 455 455 Coleman Permelia 13 F AL X 25 455 455 Coleman Charles C. 11 M AL X===
The Greene County web site lists these marriages in Greene County for years 1823 - 1860
Notes Coleman, Albert MOBLEY, Martha M Nov 20 1849 (498) Coleman, Alice MERIWEATHER, John S Dr Nov 08 1860 Coleman, Amanda C HAYNIE, Richard C Aug 26 1848 [Note: confirmed by Gandrud, Alabama Records, Vol 154, pg 10, Robert Taylor, JP, officiated.] (497) Coleman, Bestor WYNNE, Laura F Dec 20 1859 Coleman, Charles H HUTTON, Priscilla Ann Feb 11 1828 Coleman, Charles P PHILLIPS, Frances Aug 25 1832 NR Coleman, Charles P MOBLY, Fanny Feb 21 1829 Coleman, David R HALL, Mary A Jul 22 1856 Coleman, Edith OLDHAM, Elias Nov 04 1850 (494) Coleman, Eliza Ann TRAVIS, Amos Jr. May 25 1837 Coleman, Elizabeth Coleman, John G Nov 03 1841 Coleman, Elizabeth JONES, Calvin G Sep 01 1845 Coleman, Elizabeth SPENCER, Charles A Jan 13 1857 Coleman, Elmira THOMPSON, William James Nov 13 1838 NR Coleman, Giles C COLVIN, Susan May 03 1836 Coleman, Irwin COCKRELL, Nancy Jun 06 1826 Coleman, Isabella C HIGGINBOTHAM, George C Jr Jan 06 1852 (486) Coleman, James Cobb ANDERSON, Martha Ann Nov 23 1830 Coleman, John G Coleman, Elizabeth Nov 03 1841 Coleman, John J USSERY, Mary C Oct 27 1845 (495) Coleman, Julia M McLEMORE, Ulysses Thaddeus Mar 19 1853 Coleman, Lucinda Jane FORD, Silas R A Dec 17 1845 Coleman, Lucy WHITING, Ebenezer Feb 21 1827 Coleman, M A BOSTICK, Ann J Sep 03 1851 Coleman, Martha A McGEE, John T Dec 05 1840 Coleman, Martha A PEARSON, Moses Hill Jan 23 1847 Coleman, Martha A PHILLIPS, Rial M Mar 21 1844 Coleman, Martha J BANKS, James O Jan 28 1852 Coleman, Martha GOSA, John W Jun 26 1854 Coleman, Martha W EVANS, Abner May 04 1826 (490) Coleman, Mary Ann TRAVIS, Amos Jr Dec 27 1832 Coleman, Mary J HALE, Hibbart Dec 30 1851 Coleman, Mary J HEBBARD, Coleman Dec 30 1851 Coleman, Mary EDGE, Elijah Jul 26 1833 Coleman, Mary HORTON, John D Feb 21 1835 (611) Coleman, Mary MAYBERRY, Jacob Feb 29 1832 Coleman, Mary REN, Marshall Jan 07 1835 Coleman, Mary WREN, Marshall Jan 07 1835 Coleman, Nancy C DAVIS, Bradford B Jan 31 1848 Coleman, Nancy UPCHURCH, Layton Jan 19 1831 Coleman, Penelope P CARNATHAN, George Hays Dec 15 1829 Coleman, Permelia E COCKRELL, Mclin Jan 01 1855 (487) Coleman, Rebecca PETTIGREW, Ebenezer 1829 Coleman, Robert E ALFORD, Rebecca E Feb 17 1838 Coleman, Robert T LEATHERWOOD, Jane Aug 09 1859 Coleman, Sarah DAVIS, Ashley Jan 18 1842 Coleman, Sicily BAINES, Calvin May 09 1836 Coleman, Wiley F HALL, Amanda Mar 18 1856 Coleman, William F STEWART, Henrietta S Dec 01 1853 Coleman, William F STEWART, Henrietta T Dec 01 1853 Coleman, Wilson JOHNSTON, Mary Aug 25 1828===
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Post 5646 on Coleman Family Forum: On the Lauderdale Co, MS 1870 Census are the family of 52 year old Robert E. Coleman, b. NC (p. 23, fam 44) and the family of 36 year old Thomas W. Coleman, b AL (p. 47, fam 421). In March 1870 these two men made a loan of $100 to my gggfather Jeremiah F. Johnson and his son-in-law John W. Mooney. We think these families were related.
Also listed on the 1870 census, p. 23, family 43 (next door to Robert E. Coleman?) is the family of Lee and Virginia Shackleford. Virginia was the oldest daughter of Rev. James Newman, and the niece of Jeremiah F. Johnson's wife Harriet Newman, so our connection to the Colemans may be through the Newmans.
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Post 5660:
My father had a brother named Robert E. Coleman or Robert E. Lee Coleman born 2/3/1902 died 8/5/1921. Could this be the same, They came from N.C. o[r] S.C. but the father of him was named William Thomas Coleman. Let me know if you have heard of them.
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In Memory of SARAH E. COLEMAN Daughter of Wiley E. and Amanda Coleman Born December 3rd 1859 Died Oct. 14, 1860 Age 10 months and 11 daysWill of William Hinton, Greene Co, AL mentions James A. Coleman two places. [Contributed by Lisa Cotten <MyKithNkin<at>aol.com> Tue, 8 Sep 1998, a USGenWeb State Archives Search finding]
Church Directory 1879 Church Pastor Clerk Post office Members Pleasant Hill-JC Coleman-Noblin, Al Thomas Wilkes Coleman b. 1833 Greene Co, AL [Garrett, Cathy Johnson; magarr@bellsouth.net post to COLEMAN-L dated 9 May 2002]===
William Coleman, was born in 1802. Per his daughter, Eugenia, he was born in AL. William was born in 1802 in TN according to a Census Record. William married Sarah Ogden, who was born in 1806, in Tattnall Co., Georgia.
William and Sarah Ogden Coleman had the following children:
James J., b c1834 Nancy E., b c1836 Sirena A. "Polly", b c1838 William A., b c1840 Greenberry, b c1842 Sarah Ardilla "Dilly", b c1844 Amanda, b c1846 John H. b c1848 Eugenia Coleman. b 1849 in MS[Note: all dates are est. from youngest daughter's birth year. - WDC 8 Jul 2002] There may have been one or more older children. [Shirley; HappeeNotes@aol.com; post to COLEMAN-L dated 8 Feb 2002]In a personal post to me, dated 31 Jan 2001, Shirley posted this info.
My great-grandmother, their youngest child, was born in 1849 in Miss. They were in Bienville Parish, LA when the 1850 Census was taken. Their children were James J., Sirena A., William A., Greenberry, Sarah Ardilla, Amanda, John H. and Eugenia Coleman. The Coleman family was part Indian. In her pictures, Eugenia really looks Indian. A cousin in Texas said his father (son of Eugenia) really looked and acted like an Indian. I don't know where they lived in Alabama.In 1850, the family of Amanda Coleman Haynie appeared in the U.S. Census in Greene County, AL, family #1328:
Haney, Amanda, 20, born in AL c1830 Robert, 1, born in AL 1849 Richard, 28, born in AL c1822 Next door, family #1327 is: Coleman, Catherine, 52, born in SC [Widow of Radford Coleman] William, 18, born in AL Reuben, 13, born in AL[Gandrud, Alabama Records, Vol 154, p 10] ===Greene County Resources to Write:
=== Business Name Address Greene County Democrat 265 Prairie Ave, Eutaw, AL 35462 Phone: (351) 372-3373 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greene County Independent 106 Main St, Eutaw, AL Map (351) 372-2232 ===OTHER AL COUNTIES:
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Family appeared in eastern Alabama c 1835-1845 with Robert Coleman and his wife Sarah. They remain in Alabama. According to census records, Robert was born c1805 in South Carolina.Also from the 1850 census records, I find John Coleman, aged 80, born in VA living in Robert's household. From that, I deduce that John is Robert's father, born c 1770.
I have not been able to connect my Robert to other Coleman families in the area, nor to the VA/NC/SC lines which you document. If you can do so, I'd love to see the relationship.
What I *do* know is that the Colemans owned a tract of land in eastern Alabama -- which is now part of the Talladega National Forest. There is a Coleman Lake in the Forest (in Cleburne County, AL) and the Coleman family home was supposedly along its shores. Robert's son John Morgan Coleman was a minister and served the Shoal Creek Church there in Cleburne County before relocating to Marion County (NW AL) shortly after the end of the Civil War. The old 'log' church is still standing there in the National Forest, just a short distance from Coleman Lake. Sarah Coleman is buried in the cemetery there -- we have never located a grave for Robert, though he is presumed to be in the same cemetery.
Lineage:
1. John Coleman, b c1770, VA d aft 1850 probably AL 2. Robert Coleman, b c 1805, SC; d aft 1850, bef 1860 probably AL m. Sarah 3. John Morgan Coleman, b 23 Jan 1833, SC, d 23 May 1906, AL m. Nancy Harrison Parker 4. Catherine Missouri Coleman, b 5 Jun 1861, d 14 Jan 1950 m. Samuel Addison Walker 5. Stella Pearl Walker, b 21 Nov 1898, d 25 Jun 1982 m. George Edward Young 6. James Addison Young, b 5 Oct 1924, d 18 Oct 1972 m. Dorothy Louise Sumner [Elsi; elsi_leigh@yahoo.com, personal corresp. dt 7 Jul 2002] Her family tree is online at http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~elsi/ JACKSON COUNTY ALABAMA MARRIAGES 1851-1856 AND BOOK A 1859-1871 Coleman, James T. to Sarah A. Cox 17 Jan 1866 P.347 L.470 Coleman, Julia (col) to Jerry Crawley 22 Jul 1867 P.507 L.793In the 1880 Census we find these folk in Greene Co., AL:
In Eutaw, Greene, Alabama:
| Name | Relation | Marital Status | Gender | Race | Age | Birthplace | Occupation | Father's Birthplace | Mother's Birthplace |
| Thomas W. Coleman | Self | M | Male | W | 46 | AL | Lawyer | NC | SC |
| Name | Relation | Marital Status | Gender | Race | Age | Birthplace | Occupation | Father's Birthplace | Mother's Birthplace |
| Harvy Coleman | Self | W | Male | W | 33 | AL | Farmer | NC | CN |
| Name | Relation | Marital Status | Gender | Race | Age | Birthplace | Occupation | Father's Birthplace | Mother's Birthplace |
| Wyllie Coleman | Self | M | Male | W | 47 | AL | Farmer | --- | --- |
| Betty Coleman | Wife | M | Female | W | 33 | AL | Housekeeper | --- | --- |
| Mary L. Coleman | Dau | S | Female | W | 13 | AL | At Home | --- | --- |
| John G. Coleman | Son | S | Male | W | 11 | AL | At Home | --- | --- |
| Wilson Coleman | Son | S | Male | W | 8 | AL | At Home | --- | --- |
| P. J. Coleman | Dau | S | Female | W | 6 | AL | At Home | --- | --- |
| Charles Coleman | Son | S | Male | W | 4 | AL | At Home | --- | --- |
| Betty F. Coleman | Dau | S | Female | W | 1 | AL | At Home | --- | --- |
| Name | Relation | Marital Status | Gender | Race | Age | Birthplace | Occupation | Father's Birthplace | Mother's Birthplace |
| Mary Coleman | Self | W | Female | W | 73 | SC | Farmer | --- | --- |
| Edith Coleman | Dau | S | Female | W | 45 | AL | Keeps House | --- | --- |
| Mary L. Coleman | Dau | S | Female | W | 45 | AL | Assisting | --- | --- |
| Laura Coleman | Dau | S | Female | W | 35 | AL | Assisting | --- | --- |
| Name | Relation | Marital Status | Gender | Race | Age | Birthplace | Occupation | Father's Birthplace | Mother's Birthplace |
| Mary C. Coleman | Self | W | Female | W | 55 | AL | Keeps House | --- | --- |
| Rebecca Coleman | Dau | S | Female | W | 30 | AL | Assists | --- | --- |
| Fanny Coleman | Dau | S | Female | W | 23 | AL | Assists | --- | --- |
There is a Coleman Harris Family in Sawyerville, Hale Co., AL. I saw him as a child while browsing Coleman pages in 1910 or 1920. Then came across his family with him as head while browsing the 1930 for Colemans. His family is number 284 on page 145, Microfilm Series T626, Roll 20. This is image 27 of 32 in the HeritageQuest database online. ===
Found on the National Register of Historic Places web site:
Coleman, John, House ** (added 1982 - Building - #82001617) Also known as Grassdale 1160 Mesopotamia St., Eutaw Historic Significance: Architecture/Engineering Architectural Style: No Style Listed Area of Significance: Community Planning And Development, Architecture Period of Significance: 1850-1874, 1875-1899 Owner: Private Historic Function: Domestic Historic Sub-function: Single Dwelling Current Function: Domestic Current Sub-function: Single Dwelling Coleman-Banks House ** (added 1970 - Building - #70000102) 430 Springfield Rd., Eutaw Historic Significance: Architecture/Engineering Architect, builder, or engineer: Shauver,George W. Architectural Style: Greek Revival Area of Significance: Architecture Period of Significance: 1825-1849 Owner: Local Gov't Historic Function: Domestic Historic Sub-function: Secondary Structure, Single Dwelling Current Function: Recreation And Culture, Work In Progress Current Sub-function: Museum Greene County Courthouse Square District ** (added 1979 - Greene County - #79000385) U.S. 11 and AL7, Eutaw (67 acres, 34 buildings) Historic Significance: Event, Architecture/Engineering Architect, builder, or engineer: Unknoqn Architectural Style: No Style Listed Area of Significance: Politics/Government, Architecture Period of Significance: 1875-1899, 1900-1924 Owner: Private , Local Gov't Historic Function: Commerce/Trade, Domestic, Government Historic Sub-function: Business, Courthouse, Department Store, Government Office, Hotel, Library, Specialty Store Current Function: Commerce/Trade, Domestic, Government Current Sub-function: Business, Courthouse, Department Store, Government Office, Hotel, Specialty Store [Source: The National Register of Historic Places online at: http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com/AL/Greene/state.html]
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