Biblio entry for John ELDER's quote ref #33
Chapter VI (has references at the end):
"They Provided Leadership" -
#33: "Esmond Wright - Essays in Scotch-Irish History, p. 23"
Wright, Esmond. "Education in the American Colonies" in
Essays in Scotch-Irish History. E R R Green, Editor.
Ulster Historical Foundation, 1992.
From Library of Congress book entry:
Essays in Scotch-Irish history / edited by E.R.R. Green ;
with a new introduction by Steve Ickringill.
Belfast : Ulster Historical Foundation, 1992.
Green, E. R. R. (Edward Rodney Richey), 1920-
Queen's University of Belfast.
Ulster-Scot Historical Foundation.
xvi, 110 p.  leaves of plates : ill., maps ; 22 cm.
Notes: Originally published: London : Routledge & Kegan Paul,
1969 as vol. 2. of Ulster-Scot historical series.
Originally delivered as lectures at a symposium sponsored
by the Ulster-Scott Historical Foundation at the Queen's
University, Belfast, in Sept. 1965.
Includes bibliographical reference and index.
Subjects: Scots-Irish--United States--History.
Scots--Ulster (Northern Ireland and Ireland)--History.
LC Classification: E184.S4 E8 1992
Reverend "Howard Cromie" current bio:
Webpage with music link:
click: "the mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea"
"Dr Howard Cromie is Senior Minister of Railway Street Presbyterian
[County Antrim, Northern Ireland]
He had a very challenging ministry in his various spheres of labour,
first in his Assistantships in Edinburgh and Belfast and then in his
Pastorates in Enniskillen and Lisburn. In this Volume he shares with his
readers his recollections of growing up on a farm in County Down,
his memories of wartime and his experiences during "The Troubles".
Dr Cromie gives us many interesting and sometimes amusing pen
pictures of happenings during his ministry in his different congregations
as well as in his Convenerships of The Irish Mission and Church Extension."
The author shares with us also his deeply held convictions about the Primacy of
Preaching and his commitment to the proclamation of the Gospel.
His service to the Church at large was recognised by his Election to the
Moderatorship of The General Assembly in 1984.
Now enjoying retirement. Dr and Mrs. Cromie live in Newcastle
[County Down, Northern Ireland] where
"the mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea." (music link)."
Home page for Northern Ireland e-books:
"THE CHURCH ON THE HILL"
A SHORT HISTORY of FIRST DROMORE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH
"Nestling in a hollow and ringed by hills, the town of Dromore is
situated centrally in an area of great beauty. To the south-east
stand the mountains of Mourne which sweep down to the sea. Looking
west on a good day from an elevated spot, you can see the sunshine
dancing on the silvery waters of Lough Neagh."
RE: LOUGH NEAGH
From Dr. Donald Gradeless, ELDER genealogy notes:
"The ancestorial home of the Elder family is assumed to have
been Elderslie, near Paisley in Renfreshire, Scotland. Being about ELDERSLIE and William Wallace
six miles from Glasgow. It was in this shire that the progenitor of the
American family was born, about 1679. He moved to Lough Neagh,
County Antrim, Ireland..."
RE: DROMORE, COUNTY DOWN, NORTHERN IRELAND:
In Bio of ROBERT Y. ELDER (From History of Indiana County, Pennsylvania, p.960. )
"Robert Elder, the progenitor of the family in America, was born at Dromore, County Down, Ireland, and was of Scotch extraction.
He came to the American Colonies in 1730, locating in Dauphin County, Pa., about five miles from Harrisburg, and after the close of
the Revolutionary war came to Indiana County with his family..."
Or is it DROMORE, COUNTY ANTRIM, See Townland map D (Rasharkin
Parish, south of Ballymoney):
Beatty William Dromore Rasharkin Antrim
HISTORY OF WESTMORELAND CO PA, (vol. 3, pages 533-539.)
"Robert Elder, born 1679, in Scotland, emigrated to America in 1730 and located in Paxtang township, then Lancaster, now
Dauphin county, Pennsylvania, on a tract of land near the first ridge of the Kittanning mountains, five miles north of Harrisburg. He
married in 1703, Eleanor --, born in 1684, died October 25, 1742, and their children were: Robert, born 1704; John 1706; Thomas,
1708; David, 1710; James, 1712; Ann, 1713. Robert Elder died July 28, 1746, in Paxtang, and was buried in the old churchyard.
1. Robert Elder, eldest son of Robert Elder, born in Scotland, 1704, came to Lancaster county, Pennsylvania, with his parents in
1730. At the close of the revolutionary war he emigrated to Elders Ridge, Indiana county, Pennsylvania, and became the father of ten
children. His second wife was Margaret (Taylor) Elder. His descendants are quite numerous in Indiana county; they intermarried
with the Colemans, Robinsons, Nesbits, Russels, Lairds and Barnetts. Robert Elder died in 1790.
2. John Elder, second son of Robert Elder, Sr., was born in Edinburg, Scotland, 1706..."
REV. JOHN ELDER (in Pennsylvania)
Pages 26-29, In THE CENTENNIAL MEMORIAL of the PRESBYTERY of CARLISLE.
Vol. 2, Biographical. Published by MEYERS, Harrisburg, 1889.
"John Elder was the second son of Robert Elder of Scotland, who was settled for a time in County Antrim, Ireland,
and from thence with his family, except John, about 1730, came to America and located in
Paxton to wnship, then Lancaster, now Dauphin county, on a tract of land five miles north of Harrisburg, Pa. "
"John Elder, according to Sprague's Annals, was born in County Antrim in 1706.
According to Egle's Pennsylvania Genealogies, he
was born in the city of Edinburg, January 26, 1706...."
Commemorative Biographical Encyclopedia of Dauphin County, 1896, William H. Egle. M.D
Transcribed by: Lynne Ranieri
From page 169
son of Robert Elder, who came from Lough Neagh, county Antrim, Ireland,
to Pennsylvania in 1730, was born January 26, 1706, in the city of Edinburgh, Scotland;
died July 17, 1792, in Paxtang township, Dauphin county, Pa. He received a classical education and
graduated from the University at Edinburgh. He subsequently studied divinity, and in 1732 was licensed to
preach the gospel. Four or five years later, the son followed the footsteps of his parents and friends,
and came to America. Coming as a regularly licensed minister, he was received by
New Castle Presbytery, having brought credentials to that body, afterwards to
Donegal Presbytery, on the 5th of October, 1737...."
Internet Archive webpages:
Full text of "Historic Paxton, her days and her ways, 1722-1913 : family recipes contributed by the Woman's Aid Society of Paxton Church"
Author: Wallace, Helen Bruce, ed;
Paxton Presbyterian church, Dauphin County, Pa. Woman's Aid Society
Publisher: [Harrisburg, Pa.] : Priv. print. 1913
The Publishing house of the Evangelical church
Digitizing sponsor: Princeton Theological Seminary Library
Includes, Part III, page 29
MEMOIR OF PARSON ELDER
By His Son, Thomas Elder
"We are fortunate to publish for the first time a curious
and interesting sketch of Parson Elder, belonging to Mr.
S. Bethel Boude, one of the three living great-grandchil-
dren of Rev. John Elder, and written for his mother by
her father, then an old man of eighty. This little paper,
yellowed with age, is doubtless the most authentic life of a
great man about whom many conflicting stories have been
published; even the country of his birth has been dis-
puted, as Sprague says he was born in County Antrim,
and Dr. Egle in Edinburgh. It is printed just as written
by the late Thomas Elder, a prominent lawyer of Harris-
Facts furnished by Thomas Elder,
who is now over 80 years old.
Facts relating to the life of the
Rev. John Elder dec'd, this day ob-
tained from a reliable source.
Rev. John Elder was born in Scotland in the
year 1706. Received a Classical education at
Edinburg & graduated in Edinburg College. He
subsequently studied Divinity there & received
License to preach the Gospel. During this time
his father & family with many others fled from
the persecutions in Scotland to the North of Ire-
land, and his father took up his residence in the
County of Antrim, not far from Lough Neagh.
After the Son became a licensed Preacher, he
visited his father and family in Ireland. When
with them on this visit He saw what disgusted
Him with the Government. He would not brook
or endure the reckless and unfeeling treatment of
those in Power to the People, — Stewarts & their
understrappers were perfect Tyrants. He saw
the degradation his father & family were obliged
to submit to, therefore, determined on freedom,
concluded at once to migrate to North America
& shipped a few days afterwards for Philadelphia, where
he landed & came to Lancaster County.
He received a call from a numerous class of
People forming a Congregation in Paxton. He
accepted the Call & as the Pastor of the Paxton
Congregation was ordained in 1738 by the Pres-
bytery of Donegal. So settled down he sent for
his Father & family & brought them from Ireland
& settled them in Paxton...."
Marriages of Rev. or Pastor John ELDER webpage
More about Rev. JOHN ELDER:
Egle, William Henry, 1830-1901.
Parson Elder : a biographical sketch.
Harrisburg, Pa., T. F. Scheffer, printer, 1871.
Also see ROBERT ELDER (d.1807 Fannett Township, Franklin Co PA) --Rev. War Soldier of Franklin Co PA.
in biographical sketch , "History of Juniata Valley & Its People, v. 3, 1919, p. 1311.
"...was born near PERTH on the Tay, Scotland, migrating about 1737 to the vicinity of Lough Inch or Lough Swilly,
County Donegal, Ireland, from that point emigrating to...Pennsylvania...."
Matthew and Robert ELDER of York Co PA, VA, TN, KY: