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Edmund ELDER's Ancestry Family Tree  -
"J2" DNA group confirmed Oct. 18, 2010
,
matching Elder/Dorsey family of Eldersburg, Carroll Co Maryland

posted at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/19315573/person/784287880

James ELDER relatives in Fayette Co PA,  and Westmoreland Co PA (Reunion in Scottdale, PA - 1923 news)
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/WestmorelandCoPA2.htm

ALVY ELDER:  relative of JAMES ELDER (1815-1881) of Fayette Co PA?
see notes
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/AlvyElder.htm
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More about JAMES ELDER (1815-1881) of Fayette Co PA:

  RGGRAZZINI20001,   John Gaskill Family Tree
 - Belle Vernon, Fayette Co PA

James Elder (1815-1881) - Dates correct, listed wrong father (offered Maryland info) - now has no parents listed
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/1108366/person/1572828716?pg=32810

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debbywilk, Michigan - took out James Elder, still has correct entry for son John (1844-1925) with photo of his grave from Fayette Co PA,
 (his father blank, has mother Mary Ann; 
However, many wrong ELDER names in database, from Franklin Co PA and others.
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/1500474/person/-1276840962?pg=32810

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caungst1, Shermans Dale, Perry Co PA - correct dates for James, father (blank)
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/9720440/person/132837468?ssrc=

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KarenMcMinnRunk - McMinn Family Tree
 - James birth date incorrect - wrong father, grandfather, etc.
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/8816060/person/-885775790?ssrc=

>Looking at the Mrs. Nancy ELDER obit you have posted from
Sandusky Co OH, where husband died 1847 in Centre Co PA, I used
Ancestry to search for more info about that John ELDER.
I found a tree which looks more correct,
and seems to match the ELDER info in my files.
See:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/20020255/person/884107169

NancyP asked: "Therefore,  Please DELETE:
" JOHN ELDER AND MARY LEEPER" of  "FRANKLIN CO PA" (R1b DNA)
and all ELDER ancestors above those
for your JAMES ELDER (1815-1881)."

 "sextonbc", has also posted a connection to Edmund's Ancestry Tree,
for wrong JAMES ELDER, so I wrote comments on her webpage.
 "Dates wrong,  not son of John ELDER and Mary LEEPER."
Their son died 2 Aug 1881 in Carthage, Illinois.
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/26325835/person/5091215339

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crosfeld
, Oakmont, Pennsylvania -- Shook, Sr. Family Tree
lists:
James Elder (1815-1881) - dates correct,  father (blank)
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/18169817/person/1028088540

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Gravestone photo - James Elder (1815-1881) and Mary Ann (1822-1904)
in Mt. Auburn Cemetery, Fayette City, Fayette Co PA
Elder, James        -  25 Jun 1815 - 26 Jun 1881       Lot C55
Elder, Mary Ann - 27 Aug 1822 to 26 Jan 1904     Lot C55
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/JamesElderGravestoneFayetteCoPA.jpg

ELDER families of "Brooke Co W(VA)" belong with

the late Donna Logan's DORSEY/ELDER family of Maryland.
Donna sponsored an ELDER relative for a DNA kit.
She also wrote about her Maryland families in the ELDER newsletter.
This DNA is very different from all other ELDER lines.
See label of "J2" by itself in the ELDER Y-DNA chart
at
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder

DORSEY Book reference lists ELDER names in Brooke Co W(VA) .
From Heritage Quest online .pdf files:
"The Dorsey family : descendants of Edward Darcy-Dorsey of Virginia
and Maryland for five generations and allied families," pub. 1947, 280 pgs.
by Maxwell Jay Dorsey; Jean Muir Dorsey; Nannie Boyd Ball Nimmo
Includes the Wyatt, Todd, Elder, Howard, Rockhould, and Norwood families.
Includes index. vi, 270 p. : ill. ; 29 cm.
Index page 259 with ELDER names:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/DorseyElderIndex.pdf

Page 57 - Elizabeth ELDER d. 1814 Brooke Co WVA:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/BrookeCoWVA-ELDER.pdf

Dorsey book also found in Ancestry.com full text:
at
http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=11853

and Dorsey book in Google Books

http://tinyurl.com/2a4ng69

Page 90
Terisha ELDER (Ann Dorsey Elder, Michael, John, Col. Edward, Edward)
b. Jan 12, 1767; d. Apr. 9, 1843 Washington Co PA
m. Nov. 8, 1788 Dennis Dorsey, b. 1769; d. Sept. 12, 1815 in Western PA
In 1807 Dennis moved from Maryland to Wellsburg, Virginia,
then known as Charleston, with his wife and six children.
In 1809 he moved across the state and located on a portion of the
widow Walls farm, near the Forks, now the village of Independence.
He remained there until 1813 and then moved to Fowlerstown.
(Boyd Crumrine's History of Washington County, PA.
Independence Township, f. 827)
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Google map:
Fowlerston WV to Wellsburg WV  (3.5 miles, 4 min on the "Washington Pike)
at
http://tinyurl.com/236jxdr

FowlersTown and Wellsburg - Brooke Co WV history
at
http://www.wvgenweb.org/brooke/turnpike.htm

..."Next came the JOSEPH GIST property, who was a descendant of
 CHRISTOPHER GIST who surveyed with Washington.
The Gist families of the county, who have been so active in business and in the development of the good life of the area, all can trace their ancestry to CHRISTOPHER GIST.
....
   "The Wellsburgh and Washington Turnpike Co., under the leadership of CORNELIUS GIST, on September 22, 1821, received approval of their application to the state for funding and construction of a toll road."
...
  "WILLIAM FOWLER was one of the very early settlers coming into the area from Baltimore. Relatives of the family say he was a Baptist preacher on Sunday and made whiskey all week. He owned land from Cross Creek to the Washington Pike, along the Fowler Hill Road and across to the Steubenville Road where EARL FOWLER now lives. The four front rooms of the Earl Fowler home, two up and two down, were built by William Fowler in 1806. His son, JOHN FOWLER, operated a grist mill on Cross Creek at the lower end of Fowler Hill Road...."

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Using Google to search "Joseph Gist" and "Elizabeth Elder"
found Pedigree for Major Joseph Gist and Elizabeth Elder
at
http://www.poeland.com/genealogy/Williams/Honor_Elder.html#d9772

Major Joseph Gist (reference notes: 331, 347)

Born: 30 SEP 1738; St. Thomas Parish, Baltimore, MD Colony335
Died: 22 JAN 1830; Wellsburg, Brooke Co., VA336
Christened: St. Thomas Parish, Baltimore, MD Colony336
Father: William Gist
Mother: Violetta Howard
Married Elizabeth Elder (30 AUG 1759; St. Thomas Parish, Baltimore, MD Colony335)
Children: John Elder, Cecil, Joseph, Jemima, Joshua Howard, Owen, Cornelius Howard, William, Violetta, Elizabeth, James
Notes: NOTE: COLONIAL FAMILIES OF THE UNITED STATES by George Norbury MacKenzie on page 236--He was commissioned 25 MAY 1776, Quartermaster of Soldiers' Delight Battalion, Militia of Baltimore County (Maryland Archives, xi, 443); First Lieutenant, 6th June 1776 (ibid., 467); and Major, 10 SEPT, 1779 (ibid. xvi, 368); m. 30th August 1759, Elizabeth, dau. of John (d. 1762) and Jemima Elder, and his issue as recorded in St. Thomas Register. 335

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ELDER DNA kit #12883 (J2)   and DNA FamilyFinder
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/DNAFamilyFinder12883.htm
 
  1. JOHN ELDER (d. 1740 - Anne Arundel Co. MD)  m. Mary Morris
   2. JOHN ELDER (1695-1762 - Anne Arundel Co/Baltimore Co. MD)  m. Jemima DORSEY
   3. OWEN ELDER (d. 1774 - Anne Arundel Co/Baltimore Co. MD)  m. Anne DORSEY
   4. JOHN OWEN ELDER (1771-1857 - Anne Arundel Co/Carroll Co.MD) m. Anne DORSEY (F: Lancelot)
   5. MICHAEL ELDER (1800-1868 - Carroll Co. MD/Marshall Co WV)  m. Catherine DORSEY

Green Spring Valley, MD (pt. 1-2) article:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/news/ElderNews1113.jpg
and
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/news/ElderNews1116.jpg

Donna Logan's Newletter article about Dr. Basil Dorsey Elder and his family - with photos.
Vol. 1 #1, Page 5 and 11
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/news/ElderNews1105.jpg
and
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/news/ElderNews1111.jpg
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John ELDER, "Delaware Hundred" and Eldersburg, Carroll Co MD:
  "History of Western Maryland: being a history of Frederick, Montgomery, Carroll, Washington, Allegany and Garrett counties.... ..., Volume 1
 By John Thomas Scharf, Helen Long  Page 879
at
http://tinyurl.com/2ewytnx
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History of Eldersburg, Carroll Co Md
http://www.eldersburg.net/guide/history.asp
   "According to History of Western Maryland, Volume II by J. Thomas
Scharf, the town of Eldersburg, three and a half miles from
Sykesville and thirty-two from Baltimore, was named in honor of John
Elder, who laid it out before 1800, and who was an early settler,
owning large tracts of land in the vicinity."
   ...Protestant Episcopal Church, originated on March 8, 1771,
when John Welch entered into a bond...to convey to...
Brown.. Twis, Edward Dorsey, and John Elder... two acres of land
provided the said persons would build a “Chappell of Ease” for the benefit of “Delaware Hundred,” the name of their election district.
...The church was built (a stone structure), and became a part of
 St. Thomas’ Parish, Baltimore County.
"
..."John Elder, at age 24, was the contractor for Wesley Chapel in 1822."
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Search ELDERSBURG, MARYLAND - EPISCOPAL Church
found
http://mht.maryland.gov/nr/NRDetail.aspx?HDID=791&COUNTY=Carroll&FROM=NRCountyList.aspx?COUNTY=Carroll
   "The Wesley Chapel Methodist Episcopal Church in Eldersburg, Maryland is a characteristic small church of the period, with uncoursed stone rubble construction and a simple plan. The interior is a single barrel-vaulted room. It was erected to serve one of the earliest Methodist congregations in Carroll County, and hence in the United States, as Carroll County was a birthplace of Methodism in America."
 ..."The earliest forms of Methodism were not originally referred to as a "connexion" because members were expected to seek the sacraments in the Church of England or Anglican Church. By the 1770s, however, they had their own chapels. "

Leslie Paul ELDER's LDS entry for Michael ELDER, b. 1800 MD
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ancestorsearchresults.asp
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Michael ELDER and Marshall Co WV notes:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/MarshallCoWV.htm

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1810
Name:      John Elder
Township:     Delaware Upper Hundred
County:     Baltimore
State:     Maryland
Free White Males Under 10:     1
Free White Males 10 to 15:        1
Free White Males 26 to 44:        1
Free White Males 45 and Over:     3
Free White Females Under 10:      2
Free White Females 16 to 25:         2
Number of Household Members Under 16:   4
Number of Household Members Over 25:     4
Number of Household Members:     10
Source Citation: Year: 1810;
 Census Place: Delaware Upper Hundred, Baltimore, Maryland;
Roll: 13; Page: 630;Family History Number: 0193666; Image: 00350.
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BALTIMORE COUNTY Public Library (MDAsk a Librarian - e-mail) - 9/6/2010 - Unable to find - did send .pdf of 6 ELDER pages.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/GreenspringValleyV2.pdf
RE: Lookup for a name: JAMES ELDER (1815-1881) in a genealogy reference title: "GREEN SPRING VALLEY; it's history and heritage" as listed in your online catalog. Vol. 2 is titled "GENEALOGIES"1978 -
 Md (Ref) 975.271 G

 More about: "JAMES ELDER" (1815-1881) who died in  Fayette City, Fayette Co PA.
 His ELDER ancestors lived in early "Green Spring Valley" of Maryland,  and I'm looking for his parents' names.
 An earlier "JAMES ELDER" (d. abt 1767) is posted in an online archives by Donna Logan at http://www.familytrail.com/elder/JohnElderMaryland/ps01/ps01_199.html

Another webpage for John ELDER, b. 1772 Maryland
http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/e/Letitia-L-Roe/FILE/0001page.html
Children of John Elder and Sarah are:
30 i. John4 Elder, born June 05, 1772 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md..
        (#30 is not traced - skips numbers)

31 ii. Jemima Elder, born March 01, 1774 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md..
32 iii. Honor 'Onour' Elder, born February 21, 1776 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md..
33 iv. Owen Elder, born May 09, 1778 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore Cty, Baltimore,Md..
34 v. Elizabeth Elder, born 1781 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md..
35 vi. Mary Elder, born Abt. 1784 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md.; died November 19, 1857 in Baltimore,Maryland.
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John ELDER and Mary MORRIS
Marriage     19 Oct 1708, St. Anne's, Parish Register, Anne Arundel, Maryland
St. Anne's [Episcopal] Church, Annapolis, Md
http://www.stannes-annapolis.org/main.asp?page=1547
   "Two locations compose St. Anne's Cemetery. The first is the area around the church which has been used as a cemetery since 1692. The second - far larger - section is located today, as it has been for the last 200 years, between Northwest Street and College Creek...."
   "The section of the cemetery adjacent to College Creek (formerly called Dorsey Creek) was bequeathed by Miss Elizabeth Bordley in 1790..."
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Donna Logan's ELDER FamilyTrail archives - John Elder, b. 1772 Maryland
http://www.familytrail.com/elder/JohnElderMaryland/ps01/ps01_173.html

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Revolutionary War Veteran To Be Honored
http://www.news-register.net/page/content.detail/id/540968.html?nav=515
The Intelligencer, Wheeling News-Register
By IAN HICKS Staff Writer
POSTED: August 21, 2010
"Revolutionary War Veteran To Be Honored"
Article Photos
"This headstone at Franklin Cemetery in Wellsburg was erected in honor
of Maj. Joseph Gist, a Brooke County man who fought in the
Revolutionary War. [Photo Provided includes name of wife Elizabeth ELDER]
WELLSBURG - It may be one of the newer headstones at Franklin Cemetery, but the marker bearing the name of Maj. Joseph Gist serves as a lasting reminder of a man who fought not to preserve America's freedom, but to obtain it.
   ...McGinnis said she's not sure what brought Gist to what was then known as Ohio County, Virginia (Brooke County formed in 1796 from Ohio County) but she believes he may have received a piece of property in return for his military service."
"The monument to Maj. Gist will be dedicated in a 1 p.m. ceremony Saturday at the cemetery, with family members and others expected to be in attendance. Gist, who was born in Baltimore and served in a Maryland militia unit during the American Revolution, settled near what would become Wellsburg following the war. He died Jan. 22, 1803"....more

Joseph Gist and Elizabeth ELDER - New Cemetery stone in Brooke Co WV
Findagrave entry:
http://tinyurl.com/6nhar8v

and Cemetery Photo:
JosephGistElizElderCemStone.jpg

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 GIST query on ELDER Genforum:
at
http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?gist::elder::618.html
    RE: Elizabeth m. Joseph Gist b. 1742 MD VA
   Posted by: Sandy (marsh) Mitchell
   Date: December 07, 1999 at 21:24:12
 >"looking for parents of Elizabeth Elder who married Joseph Gist on Aug. 30 1759 in Ann Arundel Co. MD. She was born 1742 in Ann Arundel Co. MD. and died in 1814 in Brooke Co. VA. Joseph was born Sept. 30 1738.
I have extensive info. on the Gist family, but nothing on the Elders. any help would be appreciated."

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1840
Thomas Elder
County:     Brooke
State:     Virginia
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5:         1
Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39:     1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5:     1
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9:      2
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14:   2
Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39:    1
Total - All Persons (Free White, Free Colored, Slaves):     8
Persons Employed in Manufacture and Trade:     1
Free White Persons - Under 20:      6
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49:     2
Total Free White Persons:     8
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves:     8
Source Citation: Year: 1840;
Census Place:  , Brooke, Virginia; Roll  191;
Page: 552; Image: 395; Family History Library Film: 0029684.
Ancestry.com Census
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1830
Name:      Thomas Elder
Home in 1830:  Howard, Knox, Ohio
Free White Persons - Males - 15 thru 19:     1
Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59:     1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14:  1
Free White Persons - Under 20:                    2
Total Free White Persons:                             3
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored):     3
Source Citation: 1830 U S Census: Howard, Knox, Ohio,
Page: 193; NARA Roll: M19-134; Family History Film: 0337945.

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1830
Name:      John Elder
Home in 1830:     Martinsburg, Knox, Ohio
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5:        1
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14:     1
Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29:     1
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29:  1
Free White Persons - Under 20:                    2
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49:                   2
Total Free White Persons:                              4
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored):     4
Source Citation: 1830 U S Census: Martinsburg, Knox, Ohio,
Page: 227; NARA Roll: M19-134; Family History Film: 0337945.
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1840  (James Elder (b 1815 would be 25)
Name:      Thomas Elder
Township:     Monroe
County:     Knox
State:     Ohio
Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29:        1
Free White Persons - Males - 70 thru 79:        1
Free White Persons - Females - 60 thru 69:     1
Total - All Persons (Free White, Free Colored, Slaves):     3
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49:     1
Total Free White Persons:     3
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves:     3
Source Citation: Year: 1840;
 Census Place: Monroe, Knox, Ohio; Roll  321;
 Page: 406; Image: 649; Family History Library Film: 0020169.
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Map showing Mt. Vernon, Knox, OH to Howard, Knox Co OH (8.9 mi)
to Monroe, Knox, OH (7.7 mi) to Martinsburg, Knox, OH (17.8 mi)
at
http://tinyurl.com/253bmc7
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Cyrus Elder b. 1834  in Coshocton Co OH (next county east) - biography
http://www.ohiogenealogyexpress.com/coshocton/coshoctonco_bios_e.htm
and in Craig Elder's Paxtang DNA group
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1697853&id=I77236291
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1830

Name:      Hugh Newell
Home in 1830:     Mount Vernon, Knox, Ohio
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5:        2
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14:     1
Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29:     10
Free White Persons - Males - 40 thru 49:     1
Free White Persons - Males - 60 thru 69:     1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5:     1
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9:     2
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19:     1
Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39:     1
Free White Persons - Under 20:     7
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49:     12
Total Free White Persons:     20
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored):     20    
Source Citation: 1830 U S Census: Mount Vernon, Knox, Ohio, Page: 268; NARA Roll: M19-134; Family History Film: 0337945.
   "South from this until you come to the building occupied by J. Stauffer & Son, the old town has all been swept away. This building was then occupied by Hugh Newell as a hotel. It was one of the notables of the town."
History of Knox Co OH - Google Books - Page 368
http://tinyurl.com/2a53yjm
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1800
Name:      Hugh Newell
Township:     Cross Creek
County:     Washington
State:     Pennsylvania
Free White Males Under 10:     2
Free White Males 16 to 25:     3
Free White Males 45 and Over :     1
Free White Females Under 10 :     3
Free White Females 10 to 15 :     2
Free White Females 26 to 44 :     1
Number of Household Members Under 16 :     7
Number of Household Members Over 25 :     2
Number of Household Members:     12
    Source Citation: Year: 1800;
Census Place: Cross Creek, Washington, Pennsylvania;
Roll: 44; Page: 752,753; Image: 42; Family History Library Film: 363347.
Also 1790 Hugh NEWELL, Washington Co PA.

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1800
Name:      Thomas Elder
Township:     Cross Creek
County:     Washington
State:     Pennsylvania
Free White Males 26 to 44:         1
Free White Females Under 10 :  1
Free White Females 16 to 25 :     1
Number of Household Members Under 16 :  1
Number of Household Members Over 25 :     1
Number of Household Members:                    3
    Source Citation: Year: 1800;
 Census Place: Cross Creek, Washington, Pennsylvania;
Roll: 44; Page: 748,749; Image: 40; Family History Library Film: 363347.
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1790
Name:      Thos Elder
County:     Washington
State:     Pennsylvania
Number of Free White Males 16 and Over:     1
Number of Free White Females:     1
Number of Household Members:     2
Source Citation: Year: 1790;
 Census Place: Washington, Pennsylvania;
Roll: M637_9; Page: 172; Image: 101; Family History Library Film: 0568149.
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1810
Name:      Thomas Elder
Township:  Cross Creek
County:     Washington
State:     Pennsylvania
Free White Males Under 10:      4
Free White Males 26 to 44:         1
Free White Females Under 10:   1
Free White Females 10 to 15:      1
Free White Females 26 to 44:      1
Number of Household Members Under 16:  6
Number of Household Members Over 25:    2
Number of Household Members:     8
 Source Citation: Year: 1810;
Census Place: Cross Creek, Washington, Pennsylvania;
 Roll  57; Page: 45;Family History Number: 0193683; Image: 00052.

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Google Books: "Gateway to the West"  By Ruth Bowers, Anita Short
Page 690
http://tinyurl.com/2cc8hyz
3-22-1825 John ELDER of Knox Co., Ohio, Thomas ELDER of Brook Co.,Va,
and Thomas ELDER and Margaret his wife of Washington, Penna. to Hugh Newell
of Mt. Vernon, Knox Co. - $700. - In-lots 129 & 130 in Mt. Vernon.
 Signatures of Thos. Elder, Sr. and Thos Elder, Jr.
attested to in Jefferson Co., Ohio. (Deed Book F, page 252)
.
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Thomas Elder - Knox Co OH - Land Patent - 11/5/1835 - 77.01 acres
WSW  13/  7-N  12-W  No  U.S. Military Survey  OH  Knox
http://files.usgwarchives.net/oh/knox/land/knox-d-g.txt
    
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[According to the "History of Washington County, Pennsylvania (1882)--
"Thomas Elder, founder of Eldersville" married Margaret Campbell,
 daughter of Arthur Campbell.

  --DYL - (Donna Y. Logan)
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Elder Family Newsletter vol. 1 #4 -EFN-Oct-Dec. 1993, page 9.
  "Thomas Elder came to the area [Eldersville, Jefferson Twp, Washington Co PA]
 and bought two acres of land from Ward.

He built a tavern and operated it from 1809 to 1818."
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MAP 13.5 miles
from Eldersville, Washington Co PA - to Wellsburg, Brooke Co WV 
see:
http://tinyurl.com/275by22
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From Library of Virginia --LVA.refdesk" <refdesk@lva.virginia.gov>
- Sept. 16, 2010
  >In Brooke County (WV) Index: 'Personal Time Line'
       Index to Vols. 1-63 with over 346,000 Entries!, pt.2. : 
       Surnames Com-Hal
       > Most of the ELDER entries,
         more than two hundred entries in three columns are for
          Elder, Thomas – spanning 1825 - 1852.
Most of the entries are in the subject column “justice.”
The page references are to Brooke County court book transcriptions.
            --William C. Luebke Reference Librarian
 The earliest entries are:
Elder, William    1817   pers prop tax  no text   4777 [page]
Elder, Thomas   1825   pers prop tax  no text    4777 [page]
Elder, Thomas   1830   pers prop tax  no text   4777 [page]
          The successive entries are for Thomas Elder until an entry for
Elder, James      1846  pers prop tax  no text        4777 [page].
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For original records:
Division of Culture and History, Archives and History Section, The Cultural
Center, 1900 Kanawha Boulevard East, Charleston, West Virginia 25305
at
http://www.wvculture.org/history/services.html#research
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1850
Name: James Elder
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Home in 1850 (City,County,State): District 3, Brooke, Virginia
Family Number: 49
Household Members:
Name Age
John Miller         54 Carpenter
James Elder        36  Farmer
Mary Elder         25  (1825)
John Elder            6  (1844)
Perry Elder           3  (1847)
Sarah Jane Elder  1  (1849)
Source Citation: Year: 1850;
Census Place: District 3, Brooke, Virginia;
Roll M432_937; Page: 227A; Image: 111.
Handwritten page
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/JamesElderBrookeCoWV1850.jpg
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1860
Name: James Elder
Age in 1860: 55
Birth Year: abt 1805
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1860: District 3, Brooke, Virginia
Gender: Male
Post Office: Wellsburg
Household Members:
Name Age
James Elder      55
Mary Elder       40
John Elder        18
Perry Elder       15
Albert Elder      12
Sarah J Elder    10
Eli Elder            3
Elzy Elder         3
Source Citation: Year: 1860;
Census Place: District 3, Brooke, Virginia;
Roll M653_1337; Page: 574; Image: 114;
Family History Library Film: 805337.
Handwritten page
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/JamesElderBrookeCoWV1860.jpg
and
2nd page: "Omissions Supplied and Explanations given for 1860 census,
Including James Elder "in county jail."
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/JamesElderCensus1860BrookeCoWV.jpg
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"WELLSBURG HERALD" from time period, 1856-1865.  
Held at West Virginia and Regional History Collection 
Charles C. Wise Jr. Library, Downtown WVU Campus, Morgantown,WV

More info about research:
http://libguides.wvu.edu/profile.php?uid=8886
    Kevin Fredette
    Coordinator for Public Services,West Virginia and Regional History Collection, WVU Libraries
     304-293-0351
     P.O. Box 6069
     Email: kevin.fredette@mail.wvu.edu
*****
1870
Name: James Elder

Birth Year: abt 1815
Age in 1870: 55
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1870: Washington, Fayette, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Fayette City
Household Members:
Name Age
James Elder     55 Coal Miner
Mary Elder      47
Perry Elder     23
Sarah Elder    20
Eli Elder         18
Elmer Elder    11
Cornelia Elder 9
Source Citation: Year: 1870;
Census Place: Washington, Fayette, Pennsylvania;
Roll M593_1343; Page: 514A; Image: 458;
Family History Library Film: 552842.

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1880 in Fayette PA
Name: James Elder
Home in 1880: Washington, Fayette, Pennsylvania
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Birthplace: Maryland
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's name: Mary
Father's birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's birthplace: Pennsylvania
Occupation: Coal Miner
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household Members:
Name Age
James Elder       63
Mary Elder        56
Elmer Elder       22 VA (West VA) MD PA
John Steward    25
Source Citation: Year: 1880;
Census Place: Washington, Fayette, Pennsylvania;
Roll 1130; Family History Film: 1255130; Page: 565C;
Enumeration District: 60; Image: 0661.
***
Discovered a similar Dorsey/Elder query in ELDER Genforum -
Query about James Elder of Brooke Co WVA
at
http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?roe::elder::1147.html

RE: John Elder, 1680's, Md.
Posted by: Lynne Roe
Date: February 23, 2001 at 19:21:30
looking for siblings and parents--Direct Descendants of John Elder
1 John Elder 1683 - 1740
.. +Elizabeth
....... 2 John Elder, Jr. 1708 - 1762
........... +Jemima Dorsey 1717 - 1770
................ 3 Owen Elder 1746 - 1774
.................... +Ann Nancy Dorsey 1748 - 1806
.......................... 4 John Owen Elder 1771 - 1857
.............................. +Ann Dorsey
................................... 5 Michael Elder 1800 - 1868
....................................... +Harriet A. Doman 1823 - 1891
............................................ 6 William L. Elder 1859 - 1941
................................................. +Martha Sue Gilmore 1859 - 1929
...................................................... 7 Minnie Elder 1892 - 1959
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Re: John Elder, 1680's, Md.
Posted by: Nancy Petersen
Date: August 24, 2010 at 08:13:22
In Reply to: John Elder, 1680's, Md. by Lynne Roe
"I found another researcher of DORSEY/ELDER family with
webpage involving the name ROE.
Do you have information on John ELDER, b. 1772 Maryland,
numbered 30 (but children not listed on the webpage)?
I'm looking for the connection to James ELDER, living
in Brooke Co WV in 1850.

John ELDER, b. 1772 Maryland
http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/e/Letitia-L-Roe/FILE/0001page.html

Children of John Elder and Sarah are:
30 i. John4 Elder, born June 05, 1772 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md..
     (#30 is not traced - skips numbers)

31 ii. Jemima Elder, born March 01, 1774 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md..
32 iii. Honor 'Onour' Elder, born February 21, 1776 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md..
33 iv. Owen Elder, born May 09, 1778 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore Cty, Baltimore,Md..
34 v. Elizabeth Elder, born 1781 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md..
35 vi. Mary Elder, born Abt. 1784 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md.; died November 19, 1857 in Baltimore,Maryland.

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WorldConnect by Helen
e-mail Granolamama at gmail.com
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=granolamama&id=I13123

# ID: I13123
# Name: John ELDER
# Given Name: John
# Surname: Elder
# Suffix: Jr.
# Sex: M
# Birth: 5 Jun 1772 in , Baltimore, Maryland
# Change Date: 9 Apr 2010 at 04:02

Father: John ELDER b: Abt 1737 in , , Maryland
Mother: Sarah

Sources:
1. Media: microfilm
Abbrev: St. Thomas's Parish Records
Title: Vital records of St. Thomas' Parish, Garrison Forest, Baltimore Co., Md.
Author: L. H. Harrison
Publication: LDS FHC Film # 14450: Item 1--typed index;
     Item 2--handwritten copy of original records,
copied in 1897 by L. H. Harrison.
      Page: pg. 46 (p. 31 of original)
Quality: 3
Text: "John Elder Jur. son of John Elder and Sarah his wife was Born June the 5th 1772."
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FATHER:
# ID: I13112
# Name: John ELDER
# Given Name: John
# Surname: Elder
# Sex: M
# Birth: Abt 1737 in , , Maryland 1
# Change Date: 9 Apr 2010 at 04:01

Father: John ELDER
Mother: Jemima DORSEY

Marriage 1 Honor DORSEY b: 3 Nov 1737 in , Anne Arundel, Maryland
Children
1. Michael ELDER b: 23 Nov 1763 in , , Maryland
2. Helen ELDER b: 14 Jul 1765 in , , Maryland
3. Providence ELDER b: 11 Sep 1767 in , Baltimore, Maryland

Marriage 2 Sarah
Children
1. John ELDER b: 5 Jun 1772 in , Baltimore, Maryland
2. Jemima ELDER b: 1 Mar 1774 in , , Maryland
3. Honor ELDER b: 21 Feb 1776 in , , Maryland
4. Owen ELDER b: 9 May 1778 in , , Maryland

Sources:
1. Abbrev: LDS Family Search
Title: LDS Family Search
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1850
Name:      Terisha F Dorsey
Age:     15
Estimated birth year:     abt 1835
Birth Place:     Pennsylvania
Gender:     Female
Home in 1850 (City,County,State):     Steubenville, Jefferson, Ohio
Family Number:     202
Household Members:     
Name     Age
Dennis B Dorsey     50
Francis Dorsey     43
Samuel J Dorsey     22
John E P Dorsey     17
Terisha F Dorsey     15
Victoria A Dorsey     12
George B S Dorsey     10
Chas W Dorsey     6
Michael A Dorsey     3
Frances Dorsey     1
Source Citation: Year: 1850;
Census Place: Steubenville, Jefferson, Ohio;
Roll  M432_699; Page: 14B; Image: 337.
***
WorldConnect by Craig R. Nichols
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=craigrnichols&id=I47695
# ID: I47695
# Name: Ruth Dorsey
# Surname: Dorsey
# Given Name: Ruth
# Sex: F
# Birth: 24 Feb 1814 in Moundsville, Marshall, West Virginia 

Father: Samuel Dorsey b: 12 Oct 1789 in ,, Maryland (F: Dennis M: Terisha Elder)
Mother: Mary Costello b: 6 Oct 1788 in ,, West Virginia

Marriage 1 Walter McMillian

Sources:
   1. Title: The Dorsey Family
      Author: Dorsey, Maxwell J. and Dosey, Jean Muir and Nimmo, Nannie Ball
      Publication: 1947 Baltimore, Maryland, Reprinted in 2006 by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
      Page: p. 91
***
Findagrave entry (no tombstone photo)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=dorsey&GSiman=1&GScid=78996&GRid=25585583&
Martha Dorsey Leetch
Birth:     1802
Death:     1889
Tombstone inscription: Martha Dorsey, wife of Michael Leetch, 1802-1889.
Burial:
Lower Buffalo Cemetery
Brooke County
West Virginia, USA
Created by: Scott and Priscilla Butler Fraser
Record added: Mar 28, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 25585583
***
Gravestone photos:
ELDER, Hannah      July 3, 1847 - Nov. 8, 1929
Little Redstone Methodist Cemetery, Fayette Co PA
http://www.pagenweb.org/~fayette/todo/lit_red_meth/target121.html

ELDER, John  Aug. 25, 1844 - Nov. 26, 1925
http://www.pagenweb.org/~fayette/todo/lit_red_meth/target122.html
*****
Mt. Auburn Cemetery, Fayette City,  Fayette Co PA
at
http://www.pagenweb.org/~fayette/cemetery/mtaub2.html

Elder, Fannie owner of  C55      
Elder, Della 06 Oct 1884 to 20 Jun 1959 sister   C55
Elder, Elmer 17 May 1858 to 28 Jan 1928     C55
Elder, Fannie M. 27 Nov 1890 to 12 Sep 1971 sister   C55
Elder, Infant Son July 1892 s/o Elmer & Sara Elder   C55
Elder, James 25 Jun 1815 to 26 Jun 1881     C55
Elder, Mary Ann 27 Aug 1822 to 26 Jan 1904     C55
Elder, Sara J. 12 Sep 1858 to 12 July 1892     C55
Elder, William 09 Oct 1886 to 18 Sep 1918 brother   C55
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Search Eldersville, Brooke Co WV:
See:
  Eldersville United Methodist Church
15 Church Road, Burgettstown, PA -- 724-947-2598
http://www.eldersvilleumc.org/aboutus.html
eldersvilleumc@eldersvilleumc.org
... serving the community of Eldersville, Pennsylvania since 1829.
...  Worshipers travel from Avella, Burgettstown, Eldersville, and Paris, PA., Colliers, Follansbee and Weirton, WV and surrounding areas....
Location page with map:
at
http://www.eldersvilleumc.org/church.html
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BROOKE COUNTY Historical Society, WV
brookecountygene@yahoo.com
Main page: http://brookecountywvgenealogy.org
Page about ELDERSVILLE:
http://brookecountywvgenealogy.org/eldersville.html

"ELDERSVILLE ROAD" entry
See FOLLANSBEE - to WELLSBURG map  (4 miles)
at
http://tinyurl.com/2d5cfdz
   "The Eldersville Road Area is actually one of the OLDEST SETTLED parts of Brooke County. Early settlers were moving into this area by 1772. It is believed the first cabin was built by ALBERT ELSON about 1772 or 1773."
...WELLS FORT on Eldersville Road was built in 1772 by RICHARD "GREYBEARD" WELLS who came into the county in 1771 and settled on a 400 acre farm.
....Other late 18th and early 19th century families settling into the Eldersville Road area were those of ROBERT BROWN LATIMER, THE WIGGINS FAMILY, on Tent Church Road, THE BECKS, HUNTERS AND THE SANDERS.
....If you turn left at OAK GROVE CEMETERY on HOOVERSON HEIGHTS (Follansbee, WV) you will travel the ELDERSVILLE ROAD area, first settled in 1772."
***
Julie Drumheller's query on ELDER Genforum:
RE: Rev. ROBERT STEWART ELDER, Episcopal,
 said to be from Knox Co or
Coshocton Co Ohio.
She has Rev. Robert's Will from 1850, mentioning his father's name as Thomas.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/RobertStewartElder.htm

LDS Lab -  Death Certificate Transcription
Name : John V.V. Elder [Van Vechten]
Death date : 30 Sep 1930
Death place : Mt. Vernon, Knox, Ohio
Birth date : 30 Aug 1845
Estimated birth year :
Birth place : Ohio
Age at death : 85 years 1 month
Gender : Male
Marital status : Widowed
Race or color : Caucasian
Street address : 101 N. Mulberry St.
Occupation : Retired Accountant
Burial date : 02 Oct 1930
Burial place :  Mt. Vernon
Cemetery name :  Mound View
Spouse name : Sarah Turner Elder
Father name : Robt. S. Elder
Father birth place : Mich.  [maybe OH, PA or NY]
Mother name : Julia Vanveston [Van Vechten]
Mother birth place : New York
GSU film number : 1992273
Digital GS number : 4000570
Image number : 2738
Reference number : fn 54727
Collection : Ohio Deaths 1908-1953
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From David Conover:
Name: Andrew W. Elder Sr.
Birth: 06 JUL 1798 in Kentucky,
Death: 06 MAR 1872 in Williamsville, Sangamon, Illinois
****
Andrew W. Elder, b. 1852
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/MatthewElderVA.htm

Washington Co PA - Elder research
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/WashingtonCoPA.htm

****

Edmund's page for Clyde Elder of Fayette Co PA
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/19315573/person/784287852
 
WWI Draft Reg. - birth 3 May 1887 Fayette Co PA

at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/ClydeElderFayettePAWWIDraft.jpg

and
His WWII Draft Reg - birth 3 May 1887 Fayette Co PA
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/ClarkElderFayetteWWII.jpg

Ancestry Index transcripts:
WWI Draft Registration - 6-5-1917
Name:      Clyde Elder
County:     Fayette (Gillespie, PA)
State:     Pennsylvania
Birthplace:     Pennsylvania
Birth Date:     3 May 1887
Race:     Caucasian (White)
Motorman, Pittsburgh Coal Co,  Apollo Mine
Wife and 1 child
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WWII Draft Reg. - 1942
Name:      Clyde Elder
Birth Date:     3 May 1887
Birth Place:     Fayette
Residence:     Washington, Pennsylvania
Roll:     WW2_2240131
Occ: Republic Steel, Clyde #3, Clarksville, Washington Co PA
Spouse: May Elder
*******

Notes from Interlibrary loan book: "A History of Brooke County" [West Virginia]
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/BrookeCoWV2.htm

Elder  DNA project - Click Goals and Y-Results menu for charts with kits: Find J2
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder

Scottish DNA project: Find J2  or 12883 and 188265 - See among all Scottish names!
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Scottishdna/default.aspx?section=yresults

ROHR Family research - 65/67 marker match with "J2" ELDER
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/ROHR.htm

***********
"J" YDNA project - ELDER kits now confirmed J2a4h2
at
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Y-DNA_J

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BURGESS names in DORSEY book
Joseph BURGESS m. Elizabeth DORSEY,  page 78 - Chart
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/DorseyChartJosephBurgessPage78.jpg

Michael DORSEY Will - Daughters ELIZABETH BURGESS and ANN ELDER, page 80
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/MichaelDorseyWill.jpg

JOSEPH BURGESS  WILL -  Wife and Children (ELDER names same page 84)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/BurgessChildrenInWILL.jpg

Securities JOSEPH BURGESS -  Ann DORSEY m. Owen ELDER, page 90
Terisha ELDER m. Dennis DORSEY moved to W(V) and PA

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/BurgessWithELDERandDennisDORSEY.jpg

*****
David Dorsey's Ancestry Tree for Jane DORSEY
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/JaneDorseyLoweOfGeorgia.htm

*****
Wedding Photo of Patrick Henry Elder and wife Ruby Alice, 1926,

from Memorial Wreath by grandson Leslie Paul Elder.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/PatrickHenryElderWV.JPG

****
Ancestry Family Tree, by "Roberta_Brumfield"
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/1238737/person/-513109687?ssrc=

Ancestry Family Tree: by "burton2401" of Ironton, Ohio
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/11265900/person/-72567562?ssrc=
***
Elder / Irwin / Ancestry Family Tree, by "lizhall2002"
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/27757464/person/12103405132?ssrc=

Patrick Henry Elder
    Birth 27 Jun 1904 in West Virginia
    Death Feb 1978 in WV, bur Kyle Cem, West Virginia

Andrew Jackson Elder
    Birth 12 June 1863 in Virginia
    Death 6 March 1952 in WV, bur Kyle Cem, West Virginia

Basil Dorsey Elder
    Birth 03 FEB 1831 in Carroll, Maryland, USA
    Death 1 Aug 1917 in Huntington City, Cabell, West Virginia
*****
KYLE CEMETERY, CABELL Co, WV
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wvcccfhr/cemeteries/kyle/kyle.htm

FATHER
ANDREW  J.  ELDER
JUNE  27,  1862     MAR.  8,  1952
ANNA  MARIE
KYLE  ELDER
1900 � 1919

Footstone:  "MARIE"
HELEN  ELDER
NOV.  24,  1906
MAY  15,  1995
"NANNY"
MOTHER
 
MARY  E.  ELDER
FEB.  6,  1866     SEPT.  20,  1952
ELDER
 
PATRICK  H.     RUBY  A.
1904 - 1978     1902 - 1973

Patrick middle name was "Henry".
Born: 06-27-1904 -- Died: 02-08-1978
Buried:  02-11-1978   Age:  73
Born in Huntington, WV and Died in Huntington, WV
BEARD MORTUARY
----------------
Ruby middle name was "Alice".
Born: 07-05-1902 -- Died: 05-29-1973
Buried:  06-01-1973   Age:  70
Born in Cabell Co., WV and Died in Ironton, OH
(Lawrence General Hospital)
Parents:  George Watts & Miriam Strow
BEARD MORTUARY
***
IN  MEMORY  OF  MOM
EUNICE  ELDER  FARREN
MAY  2,  1896
OCT.  3,  1972
GONE  BUT  NOT  FORGOTTEN

******