1841
Name: George Elder
Age: 30
[or 34?]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 [or 1807?]
Gender: Male
Where born: Kinross, Scotland
Civil Parish: Orwell
County: Kinross
Address: 70 New Sterling Road
Occupation: Woollen H L W
Parish Number: 463
Household Members:
Name Age
George Elder 30
Jane Elder 25 (b. 1816
Kinross) (Did Jane die before 1851? - Maybe buried in Orwell
Kirkyard?)
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1851 Scotland Census
Name: George Elder
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Milnathort, Kinrossshire
Parish Number: 463
Civil parish: Orwell
County: Kinross
Address: Northern Half Of The Village Of Milnathort
Occupation: Hand Loom Weaver Woollen
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 100
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1851_95
Household Members:
Name Age
George Elder 44
George Elder 1 (b. 1850)
James Elder 6 (b. 1845)
Margaret Elder 4 (b. 1847)
Robert Elder 8 (b. 1843)
Janet Finlay 27 (Sister-in-law) (b. 1824 Kingswood,
Kinrossshire)
***
1861
Name: George Elder
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Milnathort, Kinrossshire
Registration Number: 463
Registration district: Orwell
Civil parish: Orwell
Town: Milnathort
County: Kinross
Address: Backloan
Occupation: Woolen Weaver
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 166
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1861_61
Household Members:
Name Age
George Elder 54
George Elder 11 (Scholar)
Margt Elder 14 (Scholar)
Janet Finlay 38 (House keeper)
***
1871
Name: George Elder
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Orwell, Kinross
Registration Number: 463
Registration district: Orwell
Civil Parish: Orwell
County: Kinross
Address: Main St
Occupation: Woolen Weaver
ED: 2
Page: 3
Household schedule number: 18
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1871_79
Household Members:
Name Age
George Elder 64
George Elder 21
Margarer Elder 24
Janet Sonley 47
Source Citation: Parish: Orwell; ED: 2; Line: 14; Year: 1871.
***
1891
Name: George Elder
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Milnathort, Kinross-Shire
Registration Number: 463
Registration district: Orwell
Civil parish: Orwell
Town: Milnathort
County: Kinross
Address: 25 Main St
Occupation: Millworke (Woollen Spincer)
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 16
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1891_142
Household Members:
Name Age
George Elder 41 Head Millworke (Woollen Spincer)
(b. Milnathort
1850)
Margaret Elder 44 Sister housekeeper (b. Milnathort,
Kinross-Shire)
William Stewart 19 (lodger, bank clerk) (b. Milnathort,
Kinross-Shire)
Alexander S Carnegie 21 (lodger, Assistant Teacher School
(b. Arbroath, Forfarshire 1870)
***
1881
Name: Charles G Elder
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James F
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/1
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 117 Greenhead St;
ED: 1
Page: 1 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 3
Line: 14
Roll: cssct1881_214
Household Members:
Name Age
Agnes C Elder 9
Charles G Elder 5
Edith M Elder 1
James F Elder 36
Jane F Elder 7
Mary Elder 35
Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Barony; ED: 1; Line: 14; Year:
1881.
****
1901
Name: Charles Elder
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James F
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil Parish: Glasgow St James
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 33 Monteith Row
Occupation: Law Clerk
ED: 17
Page: 4
Household schedule number: 15
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1901_280
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Elder 25
Edith M Elder 26
James F Elder 36 HEAD [must be 56]
Jessie Elder 27
John S Elder 19
Mary Elder 55
Annie Jenkins 20
Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow St James; ED: 17; Line: 3; Year:
1901.
**
1901
Name: James F Elder
Age: 36 [56]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 [1845]
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Milnathop, Kirkcushire [Milnathort, Kinross-shire]
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil Parish: Glasgow St James
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 33 Monteith Row
Occupation: Cashier Tectile Factory
ED: 17
Page: 3
Household schedule number: 15
Line: 25
Roll: CSSCT1901_280
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Elder 25 (son)
Edith M Elder 26
James F Elder 36 HEAD (must be 56, b. 1845 Milnathort,
Kinross-shire)
Jessie Elder 27
John S Elder 19
Mary Elder 55
Annie Jenkins 20
Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow St James; ED: 17; Line: 25; Year:
1901.
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Milnathort Monument Inscription book lists:
62 (grey granite obelisk) Alex Elder millwright
Little Seggie .12.1823
[age 73], w Eliz Morrison .3.18 2 82, by gs Alex Elder in
Liverpool
(Alex ELDER in Liverpool is brother of John ELDER, Steamship
builder)
"...Alex founded the Alexander Elder Chair of Naval Architecture
at
Liverpool University in 1909.
He died in 1915 and left 100,000 pounds for a hospital to be built
near the Elder Park..." (and no children)
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Another son of George ELDER of Milnathort,
also has interesting sons listed in 1901 census:
John P. b. abt 1879, b. Edinburgh (occ: Leather
Merchant, Asst)
Robert R. b. abt 1877, b. Edinburgh (occ: teacher)
1901 Scotland Census
Name: Robert Elder (f: George of Milnathort)
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Milnathort, Kinrossshire
Registration Number: 685/5
Registration district: Newington
Civil parish: Edinburgh Mayfield
County: Midlothian
Address: 16, Mclaren Road
Occupation: Leather Merchant
ED: 82
Household schedule number: 87
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1901_388
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Elder 58 Head (b. Milnathort, Kinrossshire
1843)
Anne Elder 58 wife (b. Edinr, Midlothian
1843)
Jane F Elder 26 daughter ( b. Edinr, Midlothian 1875)
Jessie S Elder 28 daughter (certificated school
teacher,b.Edinr,1873)
John P Elder 22 son (Leather Mercht Asst) (b. Edinr. 1879)
Robt R Elder 24 son (Certificated school teacher) (b. Edinr,
1877)
***
Kinrosshire Families
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5209/kinrag.htm
"An Index to Collected Sasines, Kirk Session & Vital Records,
ca.1720-1810"
INFO by Marjorie J. Jodoin:
> "The names listed below are by no means comprehensive.
>I have been plowing through numerous documents trying to confirm
the parentage of my
Rev. David ROBERTSON of Kilmaurs and Ann BLACK, both of whom were
born in Kinrosshire.
Kinross was the seat of the Secession movement--a split in the Presbyterian
Church of Scotland,
which became a multiple fracture in the late 18th-early 19th c.
My family was intimately involved with the Associate Congregations
(Anti-Burgher) therefore,
much of the documentation I have collected is of Non-Conformist
families of Kinross.
I am putting up the index first-- just to sort it all out, for me
and you--
and adding the document summaries later, so please come back to
check on my progress.
>Where possible, I will put together a family line. Consider this
Potluck! and have FUN! "
(Updated 5 Nov 2001)
...
ELDER, Charles, Captain Royal Navy--1823/39; 1808/39;
ELDER, John, mfr, Auchtermuchty + Susan Robertson--1804/5; 1773/21
...
FINLAY, Isobel, Kinross--1799/28;1773/34
FINLAY, Janet, Kinross--1799/28;1773/34
***
Milnathort Church - video tour - Some good-sized Kirkyard monuments
(not close enough to be readable)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3910108410381001932
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John Elder of Fife writes:
Robert, son of George Elder and Jean Finlay born May 24 1842
James , son of George Elder and Jean Finlay born June 18 1844
Margaret , daughter of George Elder and Jean Finlay born 19 Feb 1847
George, son of george Elder and Jean Finlay born Feb 17 1850
All born in Milnathort, Parish of Orwell.
And could this be George himself?
born Orwell 28 Dec 1806, son of Robert Elder and Janet Henderson
******