Elder genforum query (and ELDER research BB):
http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?york::elder::2102.html
Posted by: Jere Baldwin (ID *****0439) Date: September 22, 2005
at 17:13:36
"I am looking for Information on York County Elders.
My Great Grandfather was Jeremiah Benjamin Elder born 1832 or 1834
in York County, [PA]
and was a Shoemaker who lived in Baltimore Md. ... Can Anyone shed
any light on this line?..."
Ancestor: Ida L. ELDER (in 1880 Lancaster Co PA) Married William
H Baldwin in 1882.
I am looking to verify Jeremiah Benjamin Elders Father as either
Stephen or Samuel Elder from York County.
...found Samuel in York County as a Revolutionary war vet in Chanceford
Twp.
Also:
Jeremiah Benjamin Elder, b. 3/22/1834, York Co.,[PA]
Baltimore
Cemetery photos
d. 3/26/1886 in Baltimore Md. He was a shoemaker. Married
Mary Jane Hughes 4/13/1855, who was the daughter of
John Hughes & Mary Dunbar.
Mary Jane Hughes was born 4/4/1835 in Pa, d. 11/30/1910 Marietta,
Pa.
... Mary took the Children to Marietta PA, Jeremiah lived and died
in Baltimore.
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Baltimore Sun-- 3/27/1886 Death
Certificate for Jeremiah B. ELDER - burial in "Baltimore Center"
ELDER -
Departed this life, on March 26, at 1 PM of paralysis of the brain,
J. B. ELDER, in his 52d year.
[York county papers please copy]
The funeral will take place on Monday afternoon, March 29,
at two o’clock, from his late residence, No. 407 North Gay street.
Relatives and friends are invited.”
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Ancestry.com
Chanceford Township, York County, Pennsylvania Church Records
Samuel Elder Groom 6 July 1779 Marriage
Mary Scott Bride 6 July 1779 Marriage
Description:
Chanceford Township lies in southeastern York County, Pennsylvania,
and this database contains
late-18th-century church records from the township. It includes
records of baptisms, marriages, and
burials for the following two churches in Chanceford: Guinston (Muddy
Creek) United Presbyterian Church,
1772-99 and Stehli's (St. Luke's) Union Church, 1754-1800
***
The collection of baptisms and marriages performed at the Guinston
(Muddy Creek)
Presbyterian Church in York County, Pennsylvania spans the years
1772-99 and includes
the names of 2,673 individuals. Stehli's Union Church served the
Reformed and Lutheran
congregations beginning in 1772. Its records in this database span
the years 1772-1800 and include the names of 1,534 individuals.
**
Lineages, Inc., comp. Chanceford Township, York County, Pennsylvania
Church Records. [database online]
Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2001. Original data: Records of Guinston
(Muddy Creek) United Presbyterian Church,
North Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania, 1772-1799.
Manuscript from the Historical Society of York County; Records of
Stehli's (St. Luke's) Union Church,
Chanceford Township, York County, Pennsylvania, 1772--1800. Manuscript
from the Historical Society of York County.
No other ELDER names in that database.
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Thanks to Carolyn
Shearer for sending this entry:
1850 York County PA Census, Shrewsbury TWP, PG 562(?)
#46/46
Stephen Elder 50 cooper all in hh b PA
Mary 35
Washington 23 laborer
Alexander 21 blacksmith
Henry 18 laborer
Jeremiah 16 cordwainer
Catherine 14
Margaret 12
Harriett 6
**
Good thing Carolyn sent that 1850 census, it was indexed as EATON
in Ancestry.com
I used WASHINGTON age 23 as first name search to find entry.
Found .pdf file in Heritage Quest, posted on my webpage here--sure
looks like ELDER to me!
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/StephenElder1850YorkCoPA.pdf
PENNSYLVANIA , YORK, SHREWSBURY TWP
Series: M432 Roll: 839 Page: 251
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Ancestry.com
1830 Census
Name: Elder, Stephen
Township: Hopewell
County: York
State: Pennsylvania
Image Source: Year: 1830;
Census Place: Hopewell, York, Pennsylvania;
Roll: 160; Page: 480.
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1840
Name: Stephen Edder [ELDER]
Township: Hopewell
County: York
State: Pennsylvania
Image Source: Year: 1840; Census Place: Hopewell, York, Pennsylvania;
Roll: 503; Page: 240
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1860
Name: Stephen Elder
Age in 1860: 60
Birthplace: Maryland
Home in 1860: Shrewsbury, York, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Head of Household: Stephen Elder
Post Office: Shrewsbury
Image Source: Year: 1860;
Census Place: Shrewsbury, York, Pennsylvania;
Roll: M653_1199; Page: 739; Image: 19.
Household:
Stephen Elder Shrewsbury, York, PA 60 1799 Maryland
Male
Mary C Elder Shrewsbury, York, PA 26 1833 Pennsylvania
Female
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Ancestry.com Census 1870
Stephen Elder
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Age in 1870: 69
Birthplace: Maryland
Home in 1870: Manchester, Carroll, Maryland
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Manchester
Image Source: Year: 1870; Census Place: Manchester, Carroll, Maryland;
Roll: M593_582; Page: 465; Image: 358
***
Household:
Stephen Elder (Shoemaker)
Manchester, Carroll, MD
abt 1801
Maryland
White
Male
Mary Elder
Manchester, Carroll, MD
abt 1838
Maryland
White
Female
Mary Susan Elder
Manchester, Carroll, MD
abt 1864
Maryland
White
Female
***
1860
Name: Alexander Elder
Age in 1860: 28
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1860: District 6, Baltimore, Maryland
Gender: Male
Head of Household: John Wilhelm
Post Office: Union Meeting House
Image Source: Year: 1860; Census Place: District 6, Baltimore, Maryland;
Roll: M653_468; Page: 0; Image: 284.
John Wilhelm District 6, Baltimore, MD 30 1829 Male
Sarah Wilhelm District 6, Baltimore, MD 26 1833
Female
Emma Wilhelm District 6, Baltimore, MD 5 1854
Female
Willie Wilhelm District 6, Baltimore, MD 3 1856
Male
Harvey Wilhelm District 6, Baltimore, MD 2 1857
Male
Kate Wilhelm District 6, Baltimore, MD 1 1858
Female
Alexander Elder District 6, Baltimore, MD 28 1831 Pennsylvania
Male
****
1860
Name: Henry Elder
Age in 1860: 30
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1860: Shrewsbury, York, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Head of Household: Henry Elder
Post Office: Shrewsbury
Image Source: Year: 1860; Census Place: Shrewsbury, York, Pennsylvania;
Roll: M653_1199; Page: 729; Image: 9.
***
Household:
Henry Elder Shrewsbury, York, PA 30 1829 Pennsylvania
Male
Sarah Elder Shrewsbury, York, PA 23 1836 Pennsylvania
Female
Atta Elder Shrewsbury, York, PA 4 1855 Pennsylvania
Female
Maria Hetrick Shrewsbury, York, PA 18 1841 Pennsylvania
Female
*****
1860 (Ancestry.com)
Name: Jeremiah B Elder
Age in 1860: 27
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1860: Baltimore Ward 7, Baltimore (Independent City), Maryland
Gender: Male
Head of Household: Jeremiah B Elder
Household
Post Office: Baltimore
Image Source: Year: 1860; Census Place: Baltimore Ward 7, Baltimore
(Independent City), Maryland;
Roll: M653_461; Page: 457; Image: 259.
Household:
Jane M Elder 23 1836 Pennsylvania Female
Milton T Elder 1 1858 Maryland Male
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1870 Heritage Quest
ELDER, JEREMIAH B (1870 U.S. Census)
MARYLAND , BALTIMORE, 7-WD BALTIMORE
Age: 39, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: PA
Series: M593 Roll: 574 Page: 134
Elder, Jeremiah B. 39 PA Bootmaker
Jane
M. 35 PA
Milton
T. 11 MD
Jeremiah
B. Jr. 8 PA
Ida
L 4 PA
Cassidy, William E 24 PA Shoemaker
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/JeremiahBElder1870.pdf
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(1880 U.S. Census) Heritage Quest
MARYLAND , BALTIMORE, 6-WD BALTIMORE
Series: T9 Roll: 499 Page: 215
ELDER, J.B., 45 PA PA MD Shoemaker
Josie ,wife, 41 MD MD MD
Conant, Annie, 41 MD MD MD Boarder
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/JeremiahBElder1880.pdf
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LDS 1880 census -- Lancaster Co PA
Jane M. ELDER Self M Female W 43 PA Keeping House
PA PA
Milton T. ELDER Son S Male W 20 MD Shoemaker PA
PA
Jeremiah B. ELDER Son S Male W 18 PA Tinsmith PA
PA
Ida L. ELDER Dau S Female W 15 PA At School PA
PA
Mary L. ELDER Dau S Female W 5 MD PA PA
Census Place: Marietta, Lancaster, Pennsylvania
Family History Library Film 1255141
NA Film Number T9-1141
Page Number 326A
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1900
ELDER, JERRY (1900 U.S. Census)
PENNSYLVANIA , LANCASTER, E DONEGAL
Age: 38, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: PA
Series: T623 Roll: 1423 Page: 17
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1910
ELDER, JEREMIAH (1910 U.S. Census)
PENNSYLVANIA , LANCASTER, EAST DONEGAL TWP
Age: 48, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: PA
Series: T624 Roll: 1353 Page: 214
Amanda 43, Bertha 20, Franklin 18,
Isabella 13, William 8, Jane mother 75, Milton, Brother 50, Mary,
Sister 36
***
Soc.Sec. index:
FRANKLIN ELDER 16 Aug 1891
d. Jul 1962 (Pennsylvania)
166-03-2413 Pennsylvania
***
(Ida L ELDER m. William H. BALDWIN in Marietta, Lancaster Co, PA
abt. 1883)
1900
Name: Ida L Baldwin
Home in 1900: Royersford, Montgomery, Pennsylvania
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Spouse's name: James H
Race: White
Household Members:
Name Age
James H Baldwin 35
Ida L Baldwin 35
Harry M Baldwin 15 (1885)
Blanch M Baldwin 14
Anna D Baldwin 12
Horace I Baldwin 12
William L Baldwin 9
Ruth H Baldwin 7
Jeramiah E Baldwin 5
Mark D Baldwin 2
Source Citation: Year: 1900;
Census Place: Royersford, Montgomery, Pennsylvania;
Roll: T623 1444; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 268.
***
1910
Name: Ida L Baldwin
Age in 1910: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Spouse's name: William F
Home in 1910: Royersford Ward 4, Montgomery, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Household Members:
Name Age
William F Baldwin 46
Ida L Baldwin 45
Blanche Baldwin 24
Horace D Baldwin 21
William L Baldwin 18
Ruth H Baldwin 17
Jerry E Baldwin 15
Mark D Baldwin 12
Source Citation: Year: 1910;
Census Place: Royersford Ward 4, Montgomery, Pennsylvania;
Roll: T624_1379; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 144; Image: 645
****
1920
Name: Ida L Baldwin
Home in 1920: Spring City, Chester, Pennsylvania
Age: 54 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Maryland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Maryland
Mother's Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Widow
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
Ida L Baldwin 54
Harry M Baldwin 35
William L Baldwin 27
Grace M Baldwin 13
Virginia M Baldwin 7
Thomas Horney 53
Source Citation: Year: 1920;
Census Place: Spring City, Chester, Pennsylvania;
Roll: T625_1550; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 77; Image: 1090..
***
1930
Name: Ida L Baldwin
Home in 1930: Spring City, Chester, Pennsylvania
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Maryland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ida L Baldwin 64
Norman G Latshaw 3 7/12
Source Citation: Year: 1930;
Census Place: Spring City, Chester, Pennsylvania;
Roll: 2020; Page: 16B; Enumeration District: 73; Image: 969.0.
***
(IS THIS JAMES ELDER family related to IDA L. ELDER BALDWIN?)
Jeremiah B. ELDER married Jane HUGHES in Newport, Perry Co PA 1855
- 1880 census
JAMES
SHIPPEN ELDER - children - Perry Co PA
James Elder -- Newport, Perry, PA abt 1826 Pennsylvania
Self
Mary Elder --Newport, Perry, PA abt 1826 Pennsylvania
Wife
John J. Elder --Newport, Perry, PA abt 1861 Pennsylvania
Son
Chas. Mc I. Elder --Newport, Perry, PA abt 1867 PA Son
Thos. B. Elder --Newport, Perry, PA abt 1859 Pennsylvania
Son
Jesse M. Elder --Wheatfield, Perry, PA abt 1861
Pennsylvania
Something other than a direct relationship
Kate Elder --Spring, Perry, PA abt 1858 Pennsylvania
Something other than a direct relationship
***
1870
Name: James Elder
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Age in 1870: 44 (Surveyor)
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1870: Newport, Perry, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View Image
Post Office: Newport
Source Citation: Year: 1870;
Census Place: Newport, Perry, Pennsylvania;
Roll: M593_1386; Page: 170; Image: 343.
Household:
James Elder Newport, Perry, PA abt 1826 Pennsylvania
Mary Elder Newport, Perry, PA abt 1826 Pennsylvania
John Elder Newport, Perry, PA abt 1861 Pennsylvania
Chas Elder Newport, Perry, PA abt 1866
Pennsylvania
Robert Elder Newport, Perry, PA abt 1851 Pennsylvania
(Boatman)
Thomas Elder Newport, Perry, PA abt 1859 Missouri
William Elder Newport, Perry, PA abt 1854 Pennsylvania
***
1860
Name: James Elder
Age in 1860: 34
Birth Year: abt 1826
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1860: Newport, Perry, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Post Office: Newport
Household Members:
Name Age
James Elder 34
Mary Elder 34
Robert Elder 9
Willliam Elder 5
Joshua Elder 3
Thomas Elder 1
Elisabeth S Elder 74
Source Citation: Year: 1860;
Census Place: Newport, Perry, Pennsylvania;
Roll: M653_1150; Page: 632; Image: 303.
****
Donna Logan's Archives (JAMES SHIPPEN ELDER, f: THOMAS, f: REV.
JOHN)
http://www.familytrail.com/elder/RobertElderPaxtang/wc01/wc01_031.html
John Elder Rev Colonel
(1706 - 1792)
Mary Simpson
(1732 - 1786)
son: Thomas Elder
(1767 - 1853)
married: Elizabeth Shippen Jones
(1787 - 1871)
son: James Shippen
ELDER b. 29 Apr 1826, Harrisburg, PA
***
LDS (familysearch.org) See also, EGLE's PENNSYLVANIA
GENEALOGIES, page 201-202
online in LDS books:
http://www.lib.byu.edu/fhc
James Shippen Elder
Wife: Mary Carpenter
Children
1. Robert James Elder
Birth: 14 NOV 1850 , , Pennsylvania
2. Thomas Elder
Birth: 18 FEB 1852 , , Pennsylvania
Death: 01 JUL 1852
3. William Smedley Elder
Birth: 25 JUL 1854 , , Pennsylvania
4. Joshua Elder
Birth: 23 MAR 1857 , , Pennsylvania
5. Thomas Brown Elder
Birth: 19 FEB 1859 , , Pennsylvania
6. John James Elder P
Birth: 04 MAR 1861 , , Pennsylvania
7. Charles McIntire Elder
Birth: 18 JUN 1866 , , Pennsylvania
****
**
See Paxtang ELDER family in MD and PA, Egle's book:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/EglePAelder.htm
VII. SAMUEL ELDER,3 (Robert,2 Robert,1) b. about 1734; removed
to Maryland prior to the
David
Elder, b. 1764 MD
Revolution, where he died; m. MARY ROBINSON, of Hanover township, Lancaster
(now
Dauphin) county, Pa. They had issue:
i. Samuel, b. 1758; m. Mary (???), b. 1759; d. October 21,
1830, and had issue:
1. Joseph-Robinson, b. 1801; d. November 16, 1825.
2. Samuel, accidentally drowned, s. p.
ii. John, d. prior to 1823; m. Esther McKinley, b. 1763; d.
July 24, 1823, and had issue:
1. John, b. March 25, 1784.
2. Mary, b. March 29, 1785; d. April 10, 1857; m.
James Harwood, and had issue (surname Harwood):
James, Mary, d. s. p.; Margaret, d. s.
p., and Henry.
3. James, b. March 26, 1787, d. s. p.
4. Margaret, b. August 9, 1789; m. Henry White,
of Baltimore, and had (surname White): William,
b. 1815.
5. John, (first,) b. September 19, 1792.
6. McKinley, b. October 21, 1791.
7. Stephen, b. April 11, 1794.
8. Samuel, b. November 9, 1795; d. March 8, 1866;
unm.; a flour merchant in Baltimore, Md.
9. Elizabeth, b. January 14, 1798.
* 10. James, b. July 26, 1802; d. November, 1860;
m. August 8, 1848, Deborah D. Keene, of
Nashua, N. H., and had issue, Samuel-J.,
counsellor-at-law, Boston, Mass.
11. John, (second,) b. July 30, 1804.
****
Searching Google for "Samuel J. ELDER" in Boston
BOOK:
Book Notes: Samuel J. Elder
"The life of Samuel J. Elder"
by Margaret Munro Elder (daughter)
Publisher:
New Haven, Yale university press, 1925.
Subjects:
Elder, Samuel James, -- 1850-1918.
Yale University Catalog:
Location: LSF (Library Shelving Facility)
LSF- click "Place Requests" for delivery to any Yale library
Call Number: Cd13 24
Status:Not Checked Out
Sterling Memorial Library (SML)
Location: SML, Manuscripts and Archives (Non-Circulating)
Call Number:Yca 873 E23e
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1900
ELDER, SAML J (1900 U.S. Census) - Lawyer
MASSACHUSETTS , MIDDLESEX, WESTFORD
Age: 50, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: RI f: MD m: ME
Series: T623 Roll: 668 Page: 123
Lillian T, 47 NY NY NY
Margaret 19 MA, Frances 16 MA, Ruth 3 MA
(+2 servants)
***
1910
ELDER, SAMUEL J (1910 U.S. Census) Lawyer
MASSACHUSETTS , MIDDLESEX, WINCHESTER
Age: 60, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: RI
Series: T624 Roll: 606 Page: 200
Samuel Jr 8 MA, Margaret M 29 MA, Frances A 26 MA, Ruth 13 MA
(+ 2 servants and 1 coachman)
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ELDER, WAIT & WHITMAN (law firm):
http://www.massreports.com/memorials/297ma589.htm
"WILLIAM CUSHING WAIT was born in Charlestown, Massachusetts, December
18, 1860. His early
education was in the public schools of Medford. He was graduated
from Harvard College, A.B.
summa cum laude in 1882 and received his A.M. there in 1885.
He attended the Harvard Law
School from 1882 to 1885 and then received his LL.B. Thence,
he practised in Boston until his
elevation to the Superior Court. For a time he shared an office
with his classmate George Eaton.
Then, he became a partner with Samuel J. ELDER under the style of
ELDER & Wait until 1893, when
Edmund A. Whitman joined the firm, and the name became ELDER,
Wait & Whitman. ... He died on January 28, 1935..."
In 1890, with his friend, that very eminent and widely known
lawyer,
the Honorable Samuel J. ELDER, and Edmund A. Whitman, there
was organized the famous firm of
ELDER, Wait and Whitman, honored in thought and memory of
now near three generations of
lawyers and laymen."
...Judge Hardy had been the senior member of the firm of Hardy,
Elder and Proctor. Mr.
Proctor also retired at this time and the neighborly association
with the late Samuel J. Elder was fraught
with fruitful consequences both to Judge Wait and to the speaker,
who in 1888 took the desk released by the classmate.
During these years we both wrote articles for the American and English
Encyclopedia of Law,
thus helping out a slowly growing practice."
...Early in 1890 Mr. Elder invited the judge to a partnership, followed
in 1893 by a similar invitation to the speaker.
The partnership thus formed continued until the appointment in 1902..."
*****
HIVELY LAND RECORD BOOKS:
THE CHANCEFORDS: CHANCEFORD AND LOWER CHANCEFORD TOWNSHIPS,
YORK COUNTY, PA, ORIGINAL PENNSYLVANIA LAND RECORDS,
VOLUME 8, NEAL OTTO HIVELY, 1997, 185 pages.
FAWN AND PEACH BOTTOM TOWNSHIPS,
ORIGINAL LAND RECORDS SERIES FOR YORK COUNTY, PA
VOLUME 10, NEAL OTTO HIVELY, 2000, 186 pages
http://www.innernet.net/hively/PALand/fawn-peach_bottom_v10.htm
11/10/05:
Library sent xeroxes of HIVELY land pages for ELDER descriptions.
HIVELY book, page 66
Survey C-127
Chanceford Twp
WARRANT - January 17, 1794, 190 acres to James Elder
Interest began January 1, 1785: York - 1360
SURVEY - May 27, 1794, 205.40 acres to
James Elder, called “Marshey Bottom”
PATENT - July 16, 1796, 205.40 acres to John Miller
P-29-215; B-8-96; York - 8921
****
HIVELY book page 67
Survey C-131
Chanceford Township
WARRANT - May 21, 1789, 110 acres to William Elder
Interest began April 1, 1781: York - 1986
SURVEY - August 19, 1789, 93.130 acres to William Elder
PATENT - October 29, 1864, 93.130 acres
to Samuel Reed, et. al
H-60-144; D-25-265; York-8920
***
HIVELY book page 101
Survey #2219
Fawn Township
WARRANT - April 25, 1769
West Side Application #5452
60 acres to George Elder
SURVEY - July 26, 1770, 38.60 acres to Henry Cowgill,
called “Fruitful Side”
PATENT - August 10, 1870, 10.96 acres to Robert D. Irwin
H-68-83; C-81-265; A-13-202; C-80-257,258;
York -5616; York - 5634
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Hively book Page 102
Survey #2224
Fawn Township
York Warrant: E-53
WARRANT - January 27, 1767, 90 acres to George Elder
SURVEY - June 24, 1767, 100.14 acres to George Elder,
called “Elder’s Mistake”
PATENT - March 9, 1768, 100.14 acres to George Elder
AA-10-285; A-50-95; York - 5615; York - 8924
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HIVELY book: DOVER & CONEWAGO, page 115
CONEWAGO TOWNSHIP
Survey #2902
York Warrant: E-104
WARRANT - West Side Application #4686,
January 8, 1768,
200 acres to Enoch Bennett
SURVEY- April 16, 1789,
214.40 acres to John Elder, Jr.
March 23, 1768,
340 acres to Enoch Bennett
PATENT - September 8, 1787,
340 acres to John Elder
P-15-122, B-198 (survey); York - 7343; York -7310
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