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Judith Pintar wrote (6/29/2009)
>"I recently went to the Carson City, NV dept of vital statistics and obtained
David Delaney Elder's death certificate.
On it clearly written were the names of his parents (you were right, Vickie):
James Elder and Martha Bruce."

WorldConnect                                            See also notes for BANFF, SCOTLAND
by Vickie Beard Thompson
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=popfraley&id=I4543
# ID: I4543
# Name: James Morrow ELDER
# Surname: Elder
# Given Name: James Morrow
# Sex: M
# Birth: 14 Apr 1816 in , Livingston, Kentucky, USA
# Death: 26 Sep 1858 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA
# Note:
    CENSUS RECORDS: James M. Elder was 34 in 1850, apparently widowed,
                                            living with his widowed mother.

    VITAL RECORDS: Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763-1900

# Change Date: 3 Mar 2009 at 12:21:50

Father: David ELDER b: ABT 1784 in , Spartanburg, South Carolina, USA
Mother: Eleanor Catherine DICKEY b: 13 Nov 1793 in , York, South Carolina, USA

Marriage 1 Louisa Jane BROWN b: 1819
    * Married: 18 May 1841 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA  [James is 25, Louisa Jane is 22]

Marriage 2 Nancy Jane KINSAL
    * Married: 19 Mar 1846 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA

Marriage 3 Martha D. BRUCE b: ABT 1823 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA
    * Married: 1 Jan 1854 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA
Children
   1.  David Delaney ELDER b: 19 May 1855 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA
   2.  Martha A. ELDER b: ABT 1858 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA
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WorldConnect
by Vickie Beard Thompson
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=popfraley&id=I4542
# ID: I4542
# Name: David Dickey ELDER
# Surname: Elder
# Given Name: David Dickey
# Sex: M
# Birth: 17 Oct 1813 in , Livingston, Kentucky, USA
# Death: 11 Sep 1838 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA
# Burial: Crawford Cem, North Fork Twp, Gallatin, Illinois, USA
# Change Date: 3 Mar 2009 at 13:05:17

Father: David ELDER b: ABT 1784 in , Spartanburg, South Carolina, USA
Mother: Eleanor Catherine DICKEY b: 13 Nov 1793 in , York, South Carolina, USA

Marriage 1 Susannah TROUSDALE
    * Married: 25 Jan 1838 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA

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ILLINOIS ONLINE MARRIAGE INDEX - 1763-1900
at
http://www.ilsos.gov/GenealogyMWeb/marrsrch.html
                                                                                                                         Date             Vol./Page
ELDER, JAMES M                       BROWN, LOUISA JANE                   1841-05-18    001/0184       GALLATIN
ELDER, JAMES M                       KINSALL, NANCY JANE                  1846-03-19    002/0006       GALLATIN
ELDER, JAMES M                       PATTILLO, MARTHA D                   1854-01-01    002/0188        GALLATIN

ELDER, DAVID D                       TROUSDALE, SUSANNAH              1838-01-25     001/0122       GALLATIN

REQUEST Copy from:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ilgalla2/countyclerkrecords.html

Gallatin County Clerk
Gallatin County Courthouse
Shawneetown, IL 62984

"Generally, the county clerk's office maintains the records of the county board,
plus the three favorite requests of genealogists -- births, marriage and death records"

  "Birth Records in the office start in 1878.
   Death records start that year also.
A self-addressed stamped envelope (SASE) is required for each written request.
All records $5, plus: There are additional fees for records prior to 1878,
which are a quarter per page to 1830, and $2 per copy from 1830 to 1878.

Marriage:
From January 28, 1830 through 1877 the county clerk's office has only the license from the books.
These list the bride, groom, date, the person who married the couple as well as the county clerk's name.
From 1878 to the present the office has both the license and application.
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Fort Worth, TEXAS Public Library - Genealogy dept.
at
http://www.fortworthgov.org/library/info/default.aspx?id=24852
      ---send us an email to
 LibraryWebMail@FortWorthGov.org
       with "Genealogy" as the subject.

Gallatin Co., Illinois, probates
by Shewmake, Shirley Cummins
Harrisburg, Ill. : The author, 1992-
Central Library Genealogy   977.397 SHEWMAKE v.2 No checkout

Early Gallatin County, Illinois probates
by Shewmake, Shirley Cummins, Saline County Genealogical Society (Ill.)
Harrisburg, Ill. : Saline County Genealogical Society, c1990-
Central Library    Genealogy 977.397 EARLY    v.1 1990 No checkout

RESULTS:
--Librarian didn't find JAMES or ELEANOR listed (5/29/2009).
Did find some ELDER names, and noted each in pencil (no xeroxing)
Page 1:    Mentions John C. ELDER as an appraiser.
Page 32:  Mentions Samuel ELDER as an administrator.
Page 41:  Mentions Samuel ELDER as an administrator.

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Gallatin County, Illinois, newspapers
by Shewmake, Shirley Cummins
Harrisburg, IL (601 S. Webster St., Harrisburg 62946-2560) : S. C. Shewmake, 1994-<1997>.
977.397 SHEWMAKE  v. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
no checkouts

RESULTS:
--Librarian found (5/29/2009)
Vol. 6 Page 14
2. From "GALLATIN COUNTY ILLINOIS NEWSPAPER ABSTRACTS,"
      in Newspaper:  SOUTHERN ILLINOIS ADVOCATE,
       Shawneetown, IL, Friday, Morning May 3, 1850
            "Notice - Whereas my wife Nancy Jane ELDER
      has left my bed and board without any cause or provocation whatever,
      this is to notify all persons from harboring her or trading with her on
       my account, as I am determined that I will not be accountable for
       any trade or contract made by her whatsoever."
      James M. ELDER. April 26, 1850"
 

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LDS (Mormon - Salt Lake City catalog also has:
  Early Gallatin County, Illinois probates (book only, no microfilms)
Contents: v. 1. ca. 1817-1883, 1890-1893 -- v. 2. ca. 1820-1847.

Gallatin County, Illinois newspapers  (book only)
 "The newspaper abstracts in this book were copied from Microfilm Roll #A-334 entitled
THE ILLINOIS REPUBLICAN, Shawneetown, Illinois covering news of Gallatin and surrounding counties....
"--vol. 1, 1st prelim. p. The 2nd vol. was copied from microfilm copies of the Gallatin Democrat and the Local Record,
both published in Shawneetown, Illinois.
 Abstracts from the 3rd vol. were obtained from 17 Gallatin County newspapers.Includes indexes.
Contents: v. 1. 1841 - 1843 -- v. 2. Jan. 7, 1898-Dec. 16, 1898; Apr. 17, 1880-Oct. 5, 1906 -- v. 3. 1829-1886
-- v. 4. Feb. 9, 1977-Jan. 24, 1879 (Shawnee Herald); Feb. 27, 1921-Dec. 13, 1923 (Gallatin Democrat)
-- v. 5. Sept. 4, 1914-Oct. 5, 1917 (News Gleaner) -- v. 6. Abstracts from 10 newspapers, ca. 1837-1881.
 

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To Fort Worth Public Library:
RE: GENEALOGY - PROBATE BOOK LOOKUP  -
 Could you find ELDER surnames in this book in your library catalog?

SURNAME:  ELDER, JAMES MORROW
 Died:  26 Sept 1858 in Gallatin County, ILLINOIS

SURNAME:  ELDER, ELEANOR DICKEY
Died after age 77 in 1870 census in Gallatin County, ILLINOIS

Ft. Worth Public Library catalog has;

"Early Gallatin County, Illinois probates "
by Shewmake, Shirley Cummins, Saline County Genealogical Society (Ill.)
Harrisburg, Ill. : Saline County Genealogical Society, c1990-
Central Library    Genealogy 977.397 EARLY    v.1 1990 No checkout
contents: v. 1. ca. 1817-1883

Also will ask Fort Worth Library to look up in Newspapers book:
v. 3. 1829-1886
vol. 6 - Abstracts from 10 newspapers, ca. 1837-1881.
Central Library    Genealogy
977.397 SHEWMAKE  v. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
no checkouts
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Gallatin Co IL GENWEB
at
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ilgalla2

LINKS to book:
"Cemeteries in Gallatin Co IL & A History of the County," by Glen Miner
Book 1 Index
at
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~davidca/Gall-cem/surnames.htm

Elder surname: 12, 20, 22, 24

First Land Grants in Gallatin Co IL:
at
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~davidca/Gall-cem/1st_land.htm

North Fork Township T8S R8E
Elder, David 1835
Eleanor 1835
Elder, James M. 1836
Samuel C. 1839
William B. 1850
Samuel 1839

Book 1
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~davidca/Gall-cem/Book1.htm

Page xii
The Southeast District, near Crawford, follows with children O to 20 following head of household.
The three school directors are also noted...
For the 1843-44 school term as follows
                                 (# in household)
Eleanor Elder            3
James M. Elder         1
John Elder, Dir.        0

Page xiii:
The Northwest District #3 of North Fork Precinct, N. of White Oak and West of North Fork Creek. 1843-44 School term
Samuel Elder, Dir.       4
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Equality Village Cemetery, page 12
Elder, R. S. Co. K 131st Ill. INF.

Danner Cemetery in North Fork Twp.
Elder, George R. 1828-1865 (married Agnes Harget (dau of William) in 1853)

Crawford Cemetery, page 22
Elder, David D. d 1838 age 24 yrs. (David Dickey Elder, b. 1813)
       Louisa Jane d 1843 age 24 yrs. wife of James M. Elder
       Mary Eleanor d 1843 age 10 mo. dau of James & M. E.

page 24:
Elder, Albert F. 1857-1907
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Book 2 pt. 3:
CEMETERIES of Gallatin County, Illinois & A History of the County, by Glen Miner
at
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~davidca/Gall-cem/Book2pt3.htm

  Retail store licenses:
Cook & Elder, Adam Baker, F. G. Robinson, Crawford Rawlings, Bean & Roark at same stand in New Market

William S. Elder is listed as the miller in 1870.

Crawford had a Post Office from 1853 to 1867 located in the Alex Bruce (1824-97)
log home which accidentally burned a few years ago while occupied by the McDaniel family.
It was located on the north side of Crawford Creek. James M. Elder and Nathaniel Holderby
operated a store on the ridge, south of the creek and north of New Pleasant C. P. Church, from 1854 to 1860.
Rev. John Crawford lived nearby and donated the church and cemetery site now known as Crawford Campground Cemetery.
The store and the Bruce home were both on the old Shawneetown - McLeansboro Road.

FOUR EARLY SCHOOLS IN PRESENT DAY NORTH FORK TOWNSHIP.
An election of school trustees in T8 R8 was held on Dec. 9, 1837 and school districts
were set up soon afterward. Four districts were laid out and Rev. John Crawford was chosen
president and Rev. Benny Bruce as Secy./Treas.

Households in District #1:
Eleanor Elder   4 (# in household)
James M. Elder 2

Dist. #3
Samuel Elder      6

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Bureau of Land Management  patent search
at
http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch

ILLINOIS
Patentee:   ELEANOR ELDER
Survey
State:  ILLINOIS
Acres:  40
Metes/Bounds: No
Title Transfer
Issue Date:  7/28/1838
Land Office:  Shawneetown
Cancelled:  No
U.S. Reservations:  No
Mineral Reservations:  No
Authority:  April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry (3 Stat. 566)

Patentee:   SAMUEL C ELDER
Survey
State:  ILLINOIS
Acres:  80   (& 78.2 #8504)
Metes/Bounds:  No
Title Transfer
Issue Date:  7/1/1841
Land Office:  Shawneetown
Cancelled:  No
U.S. Reservations:  No
Mineral Reservations:  No
Authority:  April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry (3 Stat. 566)
Document Numbers
Document Nr.:  8503
Accession/Serial Nr.:  IL0090__.255
BLM Serial Nr.:  IL NO S/N
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Patentee:  WILLIAM B ELDER
Survey
State:  ILLINOIS
Acres:  40
Metes/Bounds:  No
Title Transfer
Issue Date:  12/2/1850
Land Office:  Shawneetown
Cancelled:  No
U.S. Reservations:  No
Mineral Reservations:  No
Authority:  April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry (3 Stat. 566)
Document Numbers
Document Nr.:  12856
Accession/Serial Nr.:  IL1820__.240
BLM Serial Nr.:  IL NO S/N
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From Nancy Elder JAMES (via Linda Elder TESSENAIR) - new list:
RE: JOHN ELDER, Rev. War in SC
....
18.  John5 Elder (George Elder4 *, Alexander Elder3, John2 Elder, ?Elder1)
was born 1755 in Spartanburg County,SC, and died October 21, 1799 in Livingston County Ky.
He married Mary Morrow 1771 in Spartanburg County SC.
She was born 1755 in Waxhaw S.C., and died December 08, 1810 in Livingston County Ky..

Notes for John Elder:
1790 Census list 3 sons and 2 daughters under 16 but no names.
DEED: "John Elder  of settlement of Tyger River -w-Mary to Samuel Farrow of
Settlement of Enoree--Land on Brown Creek--Br.Broad River 450 acres.
Granted Aug 14 1775 to said John Elder."
Bond Daniel Huger and Wm.Williams;Wit: Andrew Thomason,
said John Elder,Philemon Waites Sr,Mary Elder,Sptg.Deed A 14 22/23.

Burial: Centerville Cemetery,Livingston,Ky.
Census: 1790, Spartanburg County,SC
Military service: Roster of SC Patriots in Amer.Rev.

Mary Morrow:
Burial: Centerville Cemetery,Livingston,Ky.

John Elder and Mary Morrow:  Marriage: 1771, Spartanburg County SC

Children of John Elder and Mary Morrow are:
    35    i.    David6 Elder, born July 12, 1791.
    36    ii.    Robert Elder, born 1792.
    37    iii.    Sarah Elder, born May 22, 1795.
    38    iv.    Katherine Elder, born May 21, 1778.
    39    v.    Samuel Elder, born 1781 in Spartanburg County S.C.; died 1833.
                 He married Margaret Elder July 09, 1810 in Kentucky; born 1794 in Spartanburg County S.C.; died 1834.

More about JOHN ELDER of Spartanburg  (in bio of INDIAN TRADER, William ELDER)
at
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tnpolk2/elder.htm

   "On 16 Jan 1765 John Elder purchased 125 acres on Dutchman’s Creek of
the Tyger River from Robert Crowden, who received a royal grant of 600
acres there on 3 Sep 1753.
    In 1775 John Elder received a 450 acre grant on the Broad River.
 He also had a small piece of land on the Enoree River,
which he sold on 18 Dec 1778 to William Hendrix.
He was described as “John Elder of Dutchman’s Creek, farmer”.
The transaction was witnessed by James and Sarah Elder and testified to
William Gist, the Tory who lived on the Broad and Enoree Rivers (SC).
   On 4 May 1795 John Elder sold his 125 acres on Dutchman’s Creek to his
brother-in-law, Samuel Morrow Jr.
   He headed off to Kentucky.  The Morrows
continued to live on Dutchman’s Creek alongside Abraham Hembree
(brother of Drury Hembree) and later William W. Hembree and Owen Hembree."

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Canoe Trail on TYGER RIVER near Spartanburg
Enoree Ranger District
http://gorp.away.com/gorp/resource/us_river/sc_tyger.htm

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