Hannah ELDER - birth date conflicts:
Reviewing record for marriage of 1825, where she is
said to be
"of lawful age" - could mean that she is older than
stated on
record of death and census of 1870 (says 57 in 1870,
or b. abt 1813).
The Computerized Birth calculation for death record
of 66 yrs, 7 mo and 1 day, equals: born May 6, 1810
(so that would be just under 15 yrs old in March 1825
at marriage)?
Or if 18 is "lawful age" she could be born about 1807.
John McDANIEL, husband, born abt 1800, would be over
21.
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Death record for Hannah McDaniel
Place of death: Oneida Township, Co of Eaton, Michigan
LANSING MT. HOPE CEMETERY photos
Dec. 7, 1876
Age: 66 yrs, 7 mo. 1 day (birth calculator: May 6, 1810)
Date of record: May 31, 1877
Cause: Typhoid Fever
birthplace: Ohio
Occ: Weaver
Parents: - John Elder
-Dead
and
Rebecca Elder -Dead
(Certified copy - 2003)
****
Rebecca McDaniel Story was born in Putnam County OHIO, April 4,
1826
****
MARRIAGE record:
DEARTH
and ELDER in Wayne Co OH
Wayne Co OH
31st day of March, 1825
joined together in the holy state of matrimony
John McDANIEL and Hannah ELDER of lawful age.
John Franks J.P.
Searching for JOHN FRANKS, JP in Wayne Co OH (Google.com)
found reference to Chippewa Twp, Wayne Co OH in 1825
at
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/HELMICK/1999-04/0923006948
....1825 - Charloty HELMICK, daughter of Nicholas and
Mary (FRANKS)
HELMICK, was married, 27 Jan 1825, to John HOLMES,
at Chippewa Twp.,
Wayne Co., Ohio by John FRANKS, J.P.
MARRIAGES OF WAYNE COUNTY, OHIO,
Bk.2, p.73; OUR WAYNE COUNTY HERITAGE No.12, p.92.
Searching Google.com
for "Lawful age" in Ohio in 1825 and earlier
- may be 18 and not 21
found references in Warren Co OHIO
http://osborne-origins.org/oh/warrmarr.htm
lic: 1/39 330 15 Dec 1808
Morris Orsburn of lawful age + Hester Bennet of
lawful age as by the oath of Barzilla Orsburn
as he believes
mar: 1/28 244 24 Dec 1808 Morris Orsborn + Hester Bennet
by
James McMannis Esq.
permission(backside): Bazilla Orsborn Sworn who upon
his oath says
that he verily believes Hester to be above 18 years
of age.
Filed 15 Dec 1808.
(frontside): December the 12 Day 1808 this is to sertify
that I
William Bennet and my wife ann is well Satisfied
that morris ozborn and our Daughter hester Bennet
Should be married to gather given under our
hands the Day and date above written To the
honorable County Clark of warren county
William Bennet Ann Bennet
***
1860 Ancestry.com
Name: Hannah McDaniel
Age in 1860: 47
Birth Year: abt 1813
Birthplace: Ohio
Home in 1860: Roxand, Eaton, Michigan
Gender: Female
Post Office: Charlotte
Household:
John McDaniel Snr. 60 MD
Hannah 47 OH
James 28 OH
Source Citation: Year: 1860;
Census Place: Roxand, Eaton, Michigan;
Roll: M653_542; Page: 0; Image: 382.
***
1870
Name: Hannah McDaniels [McDANIEL]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Age in 1870: 57
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1870: Roxand, Eaton, Michigan
Race: White
Gender: Female
Post Office: Sunfield
Household:
Story, Rebecca
40 OH
Story, John
10 MI
Daniels, Elisha
17 Farm Laborer OH
McDANIELS, JAMES 38 Farm
Laborer OH
McDANIELS, HANNAH 57 PA
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Roxand, Eaton, Michigan;
Roll: M593_670; Page: 284; Image: 568.
***
Is this the correct entry for Hannah Elder McDANIEL in 1850?
More research needed....
1850
Name: Hannah McDoniel
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Birth Place: Ohio
Gender: Female
Household:
John McDaniel 51 Delaware (1799)
Hannah
42 OH (1808)
Rebecca
22 OH (1828)
James
20 OH (1830)
Dorcas
18 OH (1832)
John
16 OH (1834)
Michael
15 OH (1835)
Home in 1850(City,County,State): Richland, Allen, Ohio
Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Richland, Allen, Ohio;
Roll: M432_657; Page: 367; Image: 736.
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Land Deed - Putnam Co OH
1840 John Elder and Rebecca (parents of Hannah Elder,
m. John McDaniel)?
To Christian Sugarbill
witnessed by Henry Kielheffer and Jacob ELDER, Signed by Peter Bouman,
Recorder
Signed by John ELDER and Rebecca ELDER
*****
1840 Land Deed from Joseph Fixler (of Medina Co) to James M. ELDER
(of Medina Co)
in
Van Buren township, Putnam Co OH
Two villages are located in Van Buren Township:
Belmore in the northern part of the township,
and Leipsic in the western part of the township.
Borders:
* Bartlow Township, Henry County - north
* Jackson Township, Wood County - northeast corner
* Pleasant Township, Hancock County - east
* Blanchard Township, Hancock County - southeast
corner
* Blanchard Township - south
* Ottawa Township - southwest corner
* Liberty Township - west
* Marion Township, Henry County - northwest corner
***
Land Deed - Oct 24, 1846 Williams Co OH
Sarah Thrapp (of Medina Co) to James M. Elder (of Medina Co
OH, north of Wayne Co OH)
1846 Land Deed in Williams Co OH Twp #8
Sarah Thrapp of Medina Co OH (from 1845 Will of McKendr(ee)
Thrapp)
to
James M. ELDER of Medina Co OH
Searching Google.com for McKendr(ee) Thrapp,
found a Methodist preacher in Hancock Co OH (1834-35)
at
http://www.heritagepursuit.com/Hancock/HancockChapXXXI.htm
Village of Findlay, Hancock Co OH, page 597
".. Findlay Mission...
Revs W. B. Bradford and McKendree Thrapp were the missionaries
in charge in 1834-35..."
***
Olney, ILLINOIS First Methodist Episcopal Church - history
at
http://www.archive.org/stream/historicalsketch00firs/historicalsketch00firs_djvu.txt
"In 1844, McKendree Thrapp was appointed preacher in
charge
of the circuit"...
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Land Deed - May 1, 1854
James M. ELDER and Emily ELDER his wife (of the county of
Defiance) - Signed by both
to
James and John McDANIEL (of the county of Putnam)
in Township 4 of the County of Eaton, State of Michigan
Witnessed by George H. Wilson (Notary public), Leonard ELDER, Defiance
Co
****
1850 Defiance Co OH
Name: James M Elder
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Birth Place: Ohio
Gender: Male
James M. 36 OH (1814) Carpenter
Emily 26 NY
(1824)
Leonard 9 OH
(1841)
Josephena 6 OH (1844)
Ida
2 OH (1848)
Home in 1850(City,County,State): Defiance, Defiance, Ohio
Source Citation: Year: 1850;
Census Place: Defiance, Defiance, Ohio;
Roll: M432_674; Page: 8; Image: 525.
*****
1850
Name: Sarah Thrapp
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Gender: Female
Household:
Sarah Thrapp 35 (1815)
Newton Trower 6 IL
Mary Clingintine 4 IL
Home in 1850(City,County,State): Westfield, Medina, Ohio
Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Westfield, Medina, Ohio;
Roll: M432_709; Page: 197; Image: 89.
*****
1840
Name: James Elder (by himself, age 20-30)
Township: SE
County: Medina
State: Ohio
Source Citation: Year: 1840;
Census Place: , Medina, Ohio;
Roll: 412; Page: 233.
***
1840 census
John Elder Riley, Putnam, Ohio
Thos Elder Riley, Putnam, Ohio
Jacob Elder Riley, Putnam, Ohio
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1830
John Elder
Guilford, Medina, Ohio (husband 40-50)
Thomas Elder Guilford, Medina, Ohio
(husband 20-30)
Jacob Elder Westfield,
Medina, Ohio (husband 20-30)
1820
Name: John Elder
Township: Chippewa
County: Wayne
State: Ohio
4 1 1 2 1 - 1 1 - 1 - -4 (husband and wife probably
26-34) born abt 1790?
Source Citation: Year: 1820; Census Place: Chippewa, Wayne, Ohio;
Roll: M33_93; Page: 170; Image: 114.
***
MEDINA CO OH - Query board
at
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/OHMEDINA/2002-11/1036526737
From: PRosley@aol.com
Subject: [OHMEDINA-L] John Elder-Rebecca Newmire Elder
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:05:37 EST
Does anyone have any information about John Elder who married
Rebecca Newmire d/o John Newmire of Knox Co. , OH. ?
John and Rebecca may have lived in Medina Co. in the early 1830s.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Phyllis
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Phillis ROSLEY's more recent Query in BEDFORD CO PA for NEWMIRE:
at
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/PABEDFOR/2008-10/1223408499
From: PRosley@aol.com
Subject: [PABEDFOR] Nemire-Newmyer-Newmire
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:43:13 EDT
>Is anyone researching the surnames of Nemire-Newmyer-Newmire?
I am searching for information about John Newmire(and various spellings)
John was born before 1765 and was married to Amy(last name unknown
born after
1765. They were located in Bedford County in the early 1790s Around
1793,
they moved to Allegany County, MD, and were there until around 1816
when they
moved to Knox County, Ohio. John died there in 1830.
children:
John Newmyer Born before 1765-died 1830
+Amy(last name unknown) Born after 1765-died after 1830
(1) Rachel Newmyer born about 1785-died 1859
+Moses Porter born 1781-died 1861
(2)Rebecca Newmyer born about 1788- died
+John Elder born May 7, 1780-died Jan. 22, 1852
......
Do any of these names connect with your research?
I would like to exchange information.
Thanks for any help.
Phyllis
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1800 census (Ancestry.com)
Name: Nemire, David
Township: Bedford and St Clair
County: Bedford
State: Pennsylvania
Source Citation: Year: 1800;
Census Place: Bedford and St Clair, Bedford, Pennsylvania;
Roll: 36; Page: 453; Image: 76.
***
Name: Nemire, George
Township: Bedford and St Clair
County: Bedford
State: Pennsylvania
Source Citation: Year: 1800;
Census Place: Bedford and St Clair, Bedford, Pennsylvania;
Roll: 36; Page: 453; Image: 76.
***
1800 census (Ancestry.com)
Name: Elder, John
Township: Cumberland Valley and Londonderry
County: Bedford
State: Pennsylvania
Source Citation: Year: 1800;
Census Place: Cumberland Valley and Londonderry, Bedford,
Pennsylvania; .
Roll: 36; Page: 418; Image: 59.
***
1800 census (Ancestry.com)
Name: Elder, Walter
Township: Hopewell and Woodberry
County: Bedford
State: Pennsylvania
Source Citation: Year: 1800;
Census Place: Hopewell and Woodberry, Bedford, Pennsylvania;
Roll: 36; Page: 427; Image: 63.
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MEDINA CO OH - queries 2002
http://searches2.rootsweb.com/th/read/OHMEDINA/2002-12/1040442224
From: PRosley@aol.com
Subject: [OHMEDINA-L] John Elder
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:43:47 EST
I am seeking information about John and Rebecca Newmire
Elder.
They were married in Allegany Co., Maryland Sept. 17. 1802.
By the early 1830s they were in Medina Co., Ohio.
Would someone be kind enough to check the 1830 Medina Co. census
to see if
John Elder and family appear on there?
Thank you for any help on this family.
Happy Holidays to all.
Phyllis
**
1830 census (Ancestry.com)
Name: John Elder
Township: Guilford
County: Medina
State: Ohio
Source Citation: Year: 1830;
Census Place: Guilford, Medina, Ohio;
Roll: 135; Page: 178.
***
1800
Name: Nimier, John
Township: Wills Town
County: Allegany
State: Maryland
Source Citation: Year: 1800;
Census Place: Wills, Allegany, Maryland;
Roll: 9; Page: 25; Image: 17.
***
Search Google.com
Will's Town, Allegany County Maryland
found: Newmyer name
at
http://www.ourbrickwalls.com/subpage14.html8.html
"Will's Town was the name the Indians and White Traders
called this area as early as 1728.
It included the thousands of acres of land alongside the water,
which became known as Will's Creek.
This included land in Pennsylvania from which Wills Creek comes.
It empties into the Potomac River in Cumberland, Maryland, the county
seat...."
"Will's Town included the land along Jennings Run from Corriganville
to Barrelville, another favorite place for the Indians to camp..."
..."Among the early families living in Will's Town area were: ....Newmyer.....
**
Map of Corriganville and Barrelville - near PA line and road to
Bedford
at
http://tinyurl.com/ah2ma5
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Graveyards
http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/MD/AL.html
# John Humbird (1810-1888) — of Cumberland, Allegany County, Md.
Born in Ligonier Valley, Westmoreland County, Pa., April 23, 1810.
Mayor of Cumberland, Md., 1860-61, 1866-69, 1874-76.
Died in Cumberland, Allegany County, Md., June 5, 1888.
Interment at Rose Hill Cemetery.
Jacob Humbird
...In June, 1880, with his brother John Humbird, he took the contract
for building the railroad from
Waynesboro, Pennsylvania, through Chambersburg to Shippensburg,
which was completed October, 1881. Appreciating its relations to
Maryland and Baltimore,
he came to the rescue when the means for its construction were not
forthcoming,
and advanced the money and built it accepting the bonds and stock
to the amount of $500,000.
...In 1835 he married Miss Elinor McKee, of Greensburg, Pa.,
and their union was blessed with a number of children.
During the last four or five years of his life he took great pleasure
in farming,
and his simple tastes and methodical habits made him a model husbandman.
His farm at the five mile house was well tilled by his employees,
and he took great pride in its cultivation.
He resided there nearly all the year round, excepting during the
bleakest months of winter,
when he would live at his house on Decatur Street.
***
John ELDER name found in New Castle Co DEL - Revolutionary records
SEARCHING FOR MORE ABOUT "JOHN ELDER" and "BENJAMIN ELDER"
of DELWARE
found:
DELAWARE - New Castle Co - Will Index
http://genealogytrails.com/del/newcastle/newcastlewills2.html
Benjamin Elder
Will made: 23 Apr 1749
Will probate: 17 May 1749
Will Book G Page 311
New Castle Co - "REGISTER of WILLS OFFICE"
Genealogy Assistance
http://nccde.org/wills/home/webpage1.asp
"The Register of Wills Office has extensive archives
the public can
access for the purpose of tracing genealogies or to check title
on real estate.
Our records date back to the 1600's for New Castle County."
Address:
Louis L. Redding City/County Building
800 N. French Street
2nd Floor
Wilmington, DE 19801
E-mail: Wills@nccde.org
***
Ann Elder Brooks POE research has a reference to New Castle County,
Delaware
posted at
http://www.familytrail.com/elder/annelderpoe/index.html
..."Adjacent to Chester Co., Penn. and not far from New London [PA]
is New Castle Co., Delaware.
There we find one Benjamin Elder, who made a will on 23 April 1749,
proven 17 May 1749.
This appoints wife Mary and son John executors, and also names son
Alexander and daughters Hannah and Margaret Elder.
>I also found one other early Elder family in Maryland.
A John Elder married in Anne Arundel Co., Maryland on 19 Oct.
1708 Mary Morris.
This would appear to be the same John Elder who made a will in Anne
Arundel Co. on 29 Dec. 1740,
proven 11 Mar. 1740/1, appointing sons Alexander and James executors
and
witnessed by Richard Daviss, Orlando Griffith, Edward Penn and Catharine
Scott.
> John left bequest to sons Alexander, James and Charles
Elder (100 acres each), daughter Mary
***
Possible relative?
at
GoogleBooks
"History of Allen County, Ohio Containing a History of the County,
p. 691"
JAMES A. ELDER, grocer, Lima, was born in March, 1827, in Juniata
County, Penn.,
son of David and Mary (Alexander) Elder, natives of Franklin County,Penn.,
and who had a large family,four of whom are still living.
Our subject received his education and began business for himself
in his native state.
A tanner by trade, he carried on this business in Pennsylvania for
six years.
He has been twice married, and by his first wife, also a native
of Pennsylvania,
he had two children, one of whom, David, is living.
Mr. Elder was married on the second occasion in 1861, to Sarah J.
Deihart,
and to this union were born three children:
Pearl A., James A. and Mary A.
Our subject is the only member of his family that came to Ohio,
excepting one sister older than he. who came at an earlier date,
married to T. K. Jacobs.
In 1858 he settled and has since lived in Lima, where he opened
a stove and tin store and
later a meat-market, which he ran successfully for a number of years,
and in 1880
he embarked in the grocery trade, opening out on South Main Street,
where he is doing a good business at the present time.
(See Thomas A. Elder, Wooster, OH - "Genealogy of David Elder
and Margery Stewart (of Franklin Co PA)"
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/David/WilliamPage21.jpg
****
From:
"History of Allen County, Ohio containing a history of the county,
its townships, towns, villages, schools, churches, industries, etc., portraits
of early settlers and prominent men, biographies, history of the Northwest
Territory, history of Ohio, statistical and miscellaneous matter, etc.,
etc. : illustrated."
by M A Leeson
Type: Book : Biography : Microfiche : Master microform;
English
Publisher: Chicago : Warner, Beers & Co., 1885.
****
Also see Notes for JAMES ELDER of FRANKLIN CO PA
"The early history of the Elder family of St. Thomas and
Peters townships is involved in some obscurity.
James Elder came to the neighborhood about the middle of
the eighteenth century with John Dixon and John Campbell.
He was enrolled as a private in Capt. Joseph Armstrong's
Company in 1755..."
posted at:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/JamesElder.htm
....James G. (born Feb 22, 1822) m. Feb. 17, 1845
Mary E. BRINDLE -had issue: ....5. Fanny married J. Wilson HUMBIRD.
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