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Frank Terry CARMACK

ABT 1870 - ____

ID Number: I69369


Family 1 : Sarah Thomas PENN

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[S2490]

[S2649]


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Dabney CARR Sr.

26 Oct 1743 - 16 May 1773

ID Number: I56765

  • RESIDENCE: Louisa and Charlottesville, Charlottesville Co. VA
  • BIRTH: 26 Oct 1743, Louisa Co. Virginia
  • DEATH: 16 May 1773, Charlottesville, Charlottesville Co. VA
  • RESOURCES: See: [S1386] [S2066] [S2313] [S2604] [S2741]
Father: John CARR


Family 1 : Martha JEFFERSON
  1.  Peter CARR
  2.  Jane Barbara CARR
  3.  Samuel Jefferson CARR
  4. +Dabney CARR Judge

Notes


Children
Ellen CARR b: ABT. 1766
Mary "Polly" CARR b: 7 MAR 1768
Lucy Maria CARR b: 7 MAR 1768
Virginia CARR b: ABT. 1769 in Louisa, VA
Peter CARR b: 2 JAN 1770 in Louisa, VA
Jane Barbara CARR b: ABT. 1771
Samuel CARR b: 9 OCT 1771 in Louisa Co., VA
Dabney CARR , Jr. b: 27 APR 1773 in Louisa, VA


Children:





[S2313]


                                             _Thomas CARR I "The Immigrant"______+
                                            | (1648 - 1711)                      
                       _Thomas CARR II______|
                      | (1664 - 1737) m 1704|
                      |                     |_Mary GARLAND? _____________________
                      |                       (1650 - 1736)                      
 _John CARR __________|
| (1706 - 1778)       |
|                     |                      _Cornelius DABNEY I "The Immigrant"_+
|                     |                     | (1631 - 1693)                      
|                     |_Mary DABNEY ________|
|                       (1680 - 1748) m 1704|
|                                           |_Susanna JENNINGS? _________________
|                                             (1650 - ....)                      
|
|--Dabney CARR Sr.
|  (1743 - 1773)
|                                            ____________________________________
|                                           |                                    
|                      _____________________|
|                     |                     |
|                     |                     |____________________________________
|                     |                                                          
|_____________________|
                      |
                      |                      ____________________________________
                      |                     |                                    
                      |_____________________|
                                            |
                                            |____________________________________
                                                                                 

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[S1386]

[S2066]

[S2313]

[S2604]

[S2741]

[S2313]


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Sir THOMAS MOYLE Knt. of Eastwell

ABT 1488 - 2 Oct 1560

ID Number: I79540

  • TITLE: Sir
  • RESIDENCE: England
  • OCCUPATION: Chancellor of the Court of Augmentations; Speaker of the House of Commons
  • BIRTH: ABT 1488, Chilham, Kent , England [401495]
  • DEATH: 2 Oct 1560
  • BURIAL: Eastwell Church, England
  • RESOURCES: See: notes LDS AF 1J1S-2MS [S1531] [S3100]
Father: JOHN MOYLE
Mother: ELIZABETH WARHAM


Family 1 : KATHERINE JORDAN
  1. +CATHERINE MOYLE
  2. +AMY MOYLE

Notes


Descendant of King Edward I. Sir Thomas Moyle was the Speaker of the House of Commons, he was knighted 18 Oct 1537. Speaker of the House of Commons
OF Eastwell, Kent; Believed to be the brother of Walter Moyle and son of Sir John Moyle.
Sir Thomas was Speaker of the House of Commons between 1542/3-1546.
He purchased Eastwell Manor from Sir Christopher Hales about 1550. (Source: Norman Moyle, 1999).
Sir Thomas was sent to Ireland by Henry VIII with Sir Anthony St. Leger and was knighted on 18 October 1537.
Chancellor of the Court of Augmentations
Burke's Peerage 1880


Eastwell St. Mary's Church-Monuments


The Monument to Sir Moyle Finch and his wife,Elizabeth, Countess of Winchilsea at the V&A Museum, London. Originally from St. Mary's Church, Eastwell


The tomb chest to Sir Thomas Moyle and Katherine, his wife, from Eastwell Church
The supposed resting place of Richard Plantagenet, the natural son of Richard III


The detailed wording from the side of the Richard Plantagenet Tomb
The wording on the side of the tomb, now encrusted with lichen, reads as follows:


REPUTED TO BE
THE TOMB OF
RICHARD
PLANTAGENET
22 DECEMBER, 1550


The tomb pictured above and the tomb chest pictured to the left are now far from their Kent home at the Church of St. Mary in Eastwell Park and are exhibits at the Victoria and Albert Museum in London.


The tomb to Sir Moyle Finch (1551 - 1614) and his wife, Elizabeth (1556 - 1634), who became Viscountess of Maidstone in 1623 and subsequently, Countess of Winchilsea in 1628. Originally the monument had eight marble columns supporting a canopy. The bases of those columns can still be seen on the monument although they were removed in 1756, long before the Church became unsafe. The monument was carved by Nicholas Stone who was the most important English sculptor or the early 17th century.


The other tomb chest, also in the Victoria and Albert Museum, is in many respect the more interesting, not because of the size or decoration but because of the person it was made for and the related story. As it states under the picture on the top left, it was made for Sir Thomas Moyle (d. 1560) and his wife Katherine (d. after 1560) who was the Grandfather of Sir Moyle Finch who is depicted on the tomb in the top picture. What is particularly interesting is why Sir Thomas Moyle and his tomb are linked to the rough stone tomb and the person underneath it which still remains at Eastwell, against what would have been the North Chancel wall.


I do not often quote from other books but in this case, the story as told in Arthur Mee's, "Kent", tells the tale perfectly and reads as follows:


"...Sir Thomas Moyle, building his great house here, was much struck by a white bearded man his mates called Richard. There was a mystery about him. In the rest hour, while the others talked or threw dice, this old man would go apart and read a book. Now there were very few working men who could read in 1545, and Sir Thomas on this fine morning did not rest till he had won the confidence of the man and got his story from him.


Richard told Sir Thomas that he was brought up by a schoolmaster. From time to time a gentleman came who paid for his food and schooling and asked many questions to discover if he was well cared for. One day when the boy was in his early teens the gentleman said he was going to take Richard on a visit. It must have been a very exciting journey, made on horseback across 15th century England to an unknown goal. At length they came to a vast camp all a-buzz with knights and bowmen. The boy was brought to a tent, where he saw a stately man in a rich suit of armour.


He put his hands on the boy's shoulders, and, gazing at him, said: "Richard, I am your father, and if I prevail in tomorrow's battle I will provide for you as befits your blood. But it may be that I shall be defeated, killed; that I shall not see you again."


The boy asked, stammering: "Sir, Father! Who are you?"


"I am King of England today," said the man; "but only Heaven knows what I may be tomorrow, for the rebels are strong. If the Earl of Richmond wins the day he will seek out Plantagenets and crush them. Tell no one who you are unless I am victorious."


The next day a man came riding from the battle crying: The King has lost! The reign of the Plantagenets was over. The Tudors had begun. It was the end of the long civil wars. Each time the crown had changed hands there had been wholesale murder among all the boys and men related to the king just dead. So Richard went in terror of rope or axe, poison or dagger. He obeyed his father's bidding. Never did he breathe a word of his birth. He described himself as a poor orphan.


He had been happy. He had been able to earn, by honest toil, enough money to give him lodgings and bread; he had found much consolation from reading; and he had gained truer friends than princes usually have.


Sir Thomas Moyle, listening to this wonderful story, determined that the last Plantagenet should not want in his old age. He had a little house built for him in the park, and instructed his steward to provide for it every day. Richard was able to spend his last years in reading and in walking about the lanes of Eastwell. He is lost in history, but he is in the register of burials here, and a tomb, certainly earlier than his date, which remains among the ruins is pointed out as his burial-place."
[end of quote]


Richard Plantagenet was the illegitimate son of Richard III and after the Battle of Bosworth, fled back to Kent and worked on the Eastwell Estate, supposedly as a carpenter although I have seen another source which says he was a stone mason. I am not sure why the comment should be made in the above quote that the tomb "is earlier than his date" as the stone could well have been reused from another source. This is particularly pertinent because when the tomb of Sir Thomas Moyle was examined at the Victoria and Albert Museum, that too was found to have been constructed from stone that had previously been used elsewhere. Anyway, it would be nice to believe the individual who might have been the last of the Plantagenet line (or possibly a King of England if the Battle of Bosworth had ended differently) lies here peacefully in these beautiful surroundings. (This may, of course, bit a little romantic! In the book, "The Royal Bastards of England" [delicate title] by Wilson and Curteis, Richard III is credited with managing to sire as many as seven bastard children. It is beyond the scope of these pages of who might have succeeded to what position as a result of Richard's little dalliances!)
http://www.digiserve.com/peter/eastwell-sm2.htm






[401495]
Of Wye, Kent, England


                                             _WALTER MOYLE _______+
                                            | (.... - 1470)       
                       _JOHN MOYLE _________|
                      |                     |
                      |                     |_MARGARET LUCOMBE ___+
                      |                                           
 _JOHN MOYLE _________|
| (.... - 1530)       |
|                     |                      _____________________
|                     |                     |                     
|                     |_ANNE DARCY _________|
|                                           |
|                                           |_____________________
|                                                                 
|
|--THOMAS MOYLE Knt. of Eastwell
|  (1488 - 1560)
|                                            _____________________
|                                           |                     
|                      _NICHOLAS WARHAM ____|
|                     |                     |
|                     |                     |_____________________
|                     |                                           
|_ELIZABETH WARHAM ___|
                      |
                      |                      _____________________
                      |                     |                     
                      |_____________________|
                                            |
                                            |_____________________
                                                                  

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Susan Irene PICKLER


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Margaret STROTHER

ABT 1730 - ____

ID Number: I81969

  • RESIDENCE: VA and KY
  • BIRTH: ABT 1730
  • RESOURCES: See: Likely Father [S3081]
Father: Joseph STROTHER
Mother: Margaret BERRY


Family 1 : Thomas MCCLANAHAN

                                                             _WILLIAM I STROTHER of Kirknewton________+
                                                            | (1597 - 1667)                           
                       _William II STROTHER "the immigrant"_|
                      | (1630 - 1702) m 1651                |
                      |                                     |_________________________________________
                      |                                                                               
 _Joseph STROTHER ____|
| (1685 - 1766)       |
|                     |                                      _Anthony III SAVAGE Esq. "the immigrant"_+
|                     |                                     | (1605 - 1695)                           
|                     |_Dorothy SAVAGE _____________________|
|                       (1635 - 1716) m 1651                |
|                                                           |_Alice STAFFORD _________________________+
|                                                             (1610 - ....)                           
|
|--Margaret STROTHER 
|  (1730 - ....)
|                                                            _(RESEARCH QUERY) BERRY _________________
|                                                           |                                         
|                      _James BERRY ________________________|
|                     | (1670 - 1739)                       |
|                     |                                     |_________________________________________
|                     |                                                                               
|_Margaret BERRY _____|
  (1690 - 1734)       |
                      |                                      _________________________________________
                      |                                     |                                         
                      |_Grace POWELL _______________________|
                        (1670 - 1734)                       |
                                                            |_________________________________________
                                                                                                      

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