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Rose Family Research Group

Research Newsletter April 200
Produced by Pattrick Mould

HEADLINES

Thomas Rose Researchers: Judith List and Jamie Ferguson having a bit of success, we are getting closer every month.

Comments from ANNE SHEPPARD, Alf FANTHAM, and Lorraine Galloway.
We would appreciate your comments.

The Dianne Giles Research Files (At last)
First instalment: Pages 1 - 22 (of over 65 pages of text plus photos)

ROSE FAMILY

Thomas Rose Researchers: Judith List and Jamie Ferguson having a bit of success, we are getting closer every month

FROM: JUDITH ROSE LIST
8 Greenway Court, The Greenway, HIGH WYCNUKE, BUCKS, ENGLAND HP 13 6PZ Feb 26 2000
Dear Pattrick
I have been given your name by Barbara Osborne of Solihull, as a Rose descendant. She rang me today as she found my name in the "Midland Ancestor Magazine" researching Thomas Rose of Newport, Shropshire. I have been researching for many years for my ancestor, and recently wrote to the Coalport China Museum at Shewsbury to see if there was a connection with the Roses there. But no luck!
Thomas Rose, B. C1773 (presumably in Shropshire?) worked as a baker at Newport, but was tried at Shrewsbury Assizes with William Trevor, aged 49, for stealing from shop of Mr. Morris, Mercer of Newport, March 1793. Both Rose and Trevor received sentence of death, but were reprieved, and later sent to New South Wales, Thomas a convict on the Barwell in 1798. You probably know all that! But I have done research over the border into Staffordshire as Newport is on the border of the two counties.

The village of Bushbury, Staffs. Was a very ancient place and has a church with an old manor house etc. and must have had many servants in these old important houses.
In the Parish register for Bushbury church;
1778 August 23, Thomas, son of James Rose and - Woolley, illegitimate, bapt.
(I know this date is later than I thought Thomas was born but it is interesting to know that there were Roses in this area.
)
I have several other entries for a James and Mary Rose and their children "Baptisms" 1755 Feb. 28 - Thomas, son of James and Mary of Hitton
1758 Dec 25 - James, son of James and Mary Ross

1768 Jan 5 - William, son of James and Mary Rose
1768 Nov. 9 - Sarah, daughter of James and Mary Rose buried
1770 Feb 23 - John, son of James and Mary Rose
(I hope to go and do some research sometime at the Staffordshire library.)

At Tutbury, Staffs resisters:
1773 June 23 - Thomas Ross son of James and Elizabeth bapt.

At Wednesbury, St Bartholomew, Staffs

1773 Sept.5 - Thomas Ross son of John and Betty Ross bapt.

At Moseley Staffs
1773 March 3 - Thomas son of Joseph Rose of Moseley bapt
THIS LAST ONE LOOKS PROMISING

I have been in touch with several relatives in Australia about our family research over the years, including Dick Mack, and recently Eric Jowett who sent me information on the Rose gathering a few months ago with a photograph of some Rose descendants around the tomb of Thomas Rose and family.
My side of the Rose family came from the Bartletts - I know Thomas married a Pye later on.
I would be most interested to hear how you fit into the Roses, and to find out more about the family, including John William Henderson, William Balmain's son who married Kezia Jane Rose, Thomas's eldest child, she was my Great-Great Grandmother.
I hope that Eric Jowett has recovered from his knee operation. I haven't heard from him since September last year - I wrote to him answering his letter soon after.
Here’s hoping we can solve the mystery of Thomas Rose's birth.
Best wishes
Judith Rose List

THE ROSE FAMILY TREE
From Judith List

Thomas Rose b.c1773 Shopshire, d. March3rd 1837 Sydney
m. Elizabeth Bartlett 1806 St Phillips, Sydney. (Elizabeth was bap. 17 April 1785
Bromley, d. 1st November 1826, Sydney
1. Kezia Jane b. 30th January 1807, Sydney. D. 31st March 1842, Sydney.
m. John William HENDERSON b. 20th August 1800, Sydney. D. 9th
August 1850, Sydney.
1. Julia Mary b.11th July 1836, Sydney. D. 13th December 1912
in Melbourne.
m. Malcolm MACALLUM 25TH JULY 1857, St Kilda, Melbourne
Malcolm was born 6th December 1822 Oban, Scotland, d. 27th
April 1892, Melbourne, Vic. Australia
1. Christine Rose b.3rd August 1860. D.?
m. John Valantine 1891 in Melbourne
1. Julia Madge Rose, b.31st October 1897 Armadale, d.
18th May 1966, Aylesbury, Bucks.
m. Walter Darrell LIST 1927
1. Judith Rose List

REPLY FROM PATTRICK
9th March 2000
Dear Cousin Judith,
What a lovely surprise your letter was. I have been working on the Internet for years trying to find someone in our line in England, with the hope that they may be able and willing to do some research for us. I was fortunate enough to go to Shropshire a few years ago, but was disappointed when I couldn’t find our Thomas in the Newport Register, today I realise I am one of many who failed there.
You asked where I fit into the family, Thomas is my great, great, grandfather
THOMAS ROSE marr. SARAH PYE (b.1801) on 21.9.1829 at St. Peter's Church,
REUBEN UTHER BARTLETF b. 3.9.1834 marr. ELIZA MERRETIT in 1863
HENRY T.M.b. 1867 marr. AMELIA J. HAIN in 1893

NANCY b 1905 marr.RONALD MACKAY MOULD
ARTHUR PATTRICK MOULD b.1946 (ka Pattrick)
My family lived in the Cooma District NSW, and I moved to Queensland in 1972, following career opportunities. More about me at a later date. I am keen to get this letter to you quickly, to let you know how thrilled I am that you have made contact. Do you have any access to the Internet? It is the easiest and cheapest way for me to communicate. My email address is <p
attrick@bigpond.com.au> the Mould Family WebPage that I am putting together (includes Rose Research group) is at
<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mould/index.htm>

Judith, I hope you don’t mind me putting your letter in the next copy of our Rose Family Research newsletter
I have attached some information on William Balmain, keep pestering me about John William Henderson, I know I have more material I just can’t put my hands on it today and my sister Rosanne Collins has some information about a book that is just being released about the Henderson’s. Have you checked out the Australian cencus. What information do you have on Henderson? It could save me time if I knew that.
After the Rose Family Reunion last year, the active researchers formed a Rose Family Research Group. We have discovered an incredible amount of information about our Thomas (I will send a copy to you at a later date) but unfortunately no Birth or Death Certificate, and the marriage certificates were of no value either. Our research has sent us down a similar path to the one you are on.
In the information we have acquired there are two suggestions as to his birth place. One was Birmingham and the other was Norfolk. We have centered our research on Birmingham (see pardons), it is interesting to note that you are heading in that direction. The Thomas at Morseley, Staffs, certainly sounds very promising, can’t wait to hear where you get to from here.
I have copied most of the information on Thomas that I think you would be interested in and attached it below. You will note that there is one important area that we have not completed i.e. "English Hulk Returns 1783-1803". Maybe you can help us with that? It could give us a birthplace, apparently some of the Hulks information is very specific.
Judith I look forward to hearing from you soon,
Regards
Pattrick Mould

FROM:
Jamie Ferguson

Hobart, 18.03.00 Pattrick, Thanks for all the Family Tree information that you have sent. Find enclosed a snapshot of our marriage on Christmas day. Yes Margie (Parsons) was there, signing her name in the wrong place on the marriage certificate, just so as to confuse future genealogists!
I found a ROSE connected to Newport ….HENRY ROSE died (or buried) March 8, 1809. Newport, Shropshire
(Microfilm England, Salop, Newport. 1569 – 1853 P.R. Beginning number 0510671) I found the phone number of the Newport Rectory – 011 4419 5281 0089 – so I’ll probaably ring and see if they’ve got any information on the whereabouts of this particular gravestone, and – of course – what is written on it.
Hope all is well, love, Jamie & Lisa.

FROM: Alf FANTHAM
Hi Pattrick, Thanks for the newsletter. I have no direct interest in the families covered, other than answering cries of help from time to time, so I see no benefit in my inclusion in your mailing list. No doubt if Helen Verrall needs help and I can assist, then I will.
May I wish you every success in the venture and I trust that you ultimately find all that you seek.regards from a cold but bright Kings Norton
Alf FANTHAM

Alf, Thanks for your courteous and prompt reply Pattrick

 Lorraine Galloway,
From: <NLGALLOWAY@aol.com> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 10:49 AM
Hi Patrick, Thank you so very much for the ROSE FAMILY NEWSLETTER. you have done a tremendous amount of work and we appreciate it very much. I hve recently obtained my grandmother,s birthcertificate which notes she was born in Roseville House, Roseville, Coseley, Staffordshire. (Her name was LYDIA GARDNER ROSE) What sort of info are seeking for your database and where do I send it? Please keep me on your mailing list as I wish to remain involved and informed Once again, thanks for interest, I look forward to hearing from you soon. Lorraine Galloway

Lorraine Galloway,
Q.What sort of info are seeking for your database
A. I am keeping general outlines of other families being researched (GEDCOM is best for me), they will join up one day, also I get a lot of enquiries about what data I am holding
Q. and where do I send it?
A. To this email address or mail to address below
Q. Please keep me on your mailing list as I wish to remain involved and
informed.
A. You are on the list
Keep in touch, Regards, Pattrick Mould,

 ANNE LORIMER SHEPPARD
Strathfield, NSW, February 24, 2000
Hi Pattrick, Many thanks for the latest information newsletter. You arc sleuthing away for not much joy I am afraid. Someone will find something one day I am sure. Apparently Jan Brettle has not found anything in Birmingham or you would have mentioned it. The only likely Thomas Rose so far seems to be the one born 29 June 1772 in Birmingham.
Did Clare have anything on our Thomas that we didn't know? Thomas Rose stole the boat and was accused of trying to abscond with Richard Perkins and others not Thomas Bartlett I believe, By the way Thomas Rose died in 1837 not 1832 as you quoted. It is easy to confuse his death with the other Thomas Rose of Wilbefforce who died in 1833. Best of luck Patrick and again many thanks on behalf of all of us. Cheers,
Anne Lorimer Sheppard

Re: ‘Thomas Rose stole the boat and was accused of trying to abscond with Richard Perkins and others not Thomas Bartlett I believe", can anybody send me the original information? - Pattrick

The Dianne Giles Research Files
First instalment
Pages - (of over 65 pages of text plus photos)

RMB 208/O Warrah Road, TAMWORTH NSW 2340 12th September 1999

Dear Pattrick,

Thank you for the Rose Family Research Group Information. I think it’s a great idea. I’ve enclosed my first bundle of research. Some of it you will probably have already and some you may not have. I’m sorry I’ve taken so long to reply. First I was away on holidays, then I got sick, and through all this I had assignments to do for the Bachelor of Arts I am doing externally through the University of New England. I’m majoring in history. I have two residentials in the next two weeks. I also work full-time as an Administrative Officer for the New England Public Health Unit.

I sent Anne Sheppard most of the following information back in May. I recognised some of it in your booklet so perhaps she gave it to you, but I’m sending it in case she didn’t.

You probably already know that Thomas was granted a conditional pardon on 4 June 1806, by Governor Philip Gidley King. He was granted an absolute pardon by Lieutenant Colonel William Paterson on 1 December, 1809. However, Paterson was one of the caretaker ‘Governors’ after the Rum Rebellion and as he was not appointed by the British Government, all his pardons and land grants were nullified by the new Governor, Lachlan Macquarie, when he arrived. Thomas was finally granted his absolute pardon on 31 January, 1814.

AONSW Reel 800 Colonial Secretary’s Register of Absolute Pardons and Registers of Recommendations for Absolute Pardons 1791-1843. p. 49

Time and date of Pardon: 31 January 1814
Name: Rose, Thomas Ship and Year: Barwell 1798
Native Place: Birmingham Trade or Calling: Baker & Carter(?)
Offence: Blank
Place and date of Trial: Shropshire G.D. 19 March 1793
Sentence: Life Height: 5’4" Complexion: Fair Ruddy
Colour of Hair: Fair Eyes: Grey
I think the word after ‘Baker’ was & Carter.

Enclosed Documents are:

  1. Transcript of the Index from the Papers of the NSW Colonial Secretary 1788-1825
  2. A transcript of some of the interesting papers from the NSW Colonial Secretary Papers. Where the word was hard to read, I have put a ‘?’. Some of the originals at the AONSW cannot be copied, others can be copied.
  3. A copy of the original cancellation of land grants on account of ‘recent seditious conduct’, Colonel Secretary’s Correspondence, Reel 6005, 4/3494, Archives Office of NSW, p. 149.
  4. Copy of Map of Parish of Manangle in the County of Cumberland Map No. 320 from AONSW showing original land grants. I’ve also enlarged it so you can see it better. Copy of Sydney Gazette, 16 May 1818, p. 2, showing original land rights. I’ve also enlarged it so you can see it better.
  5. Copy of Sydney Gazette, 16 May 1818, p.2, showing sale of ‘Gelead Farm’ by Mr Bevan at his rooms in George-St. (Centre of Page).
  6. Copy of Sydney Morning Herald, 27 June 1925 showing the Mt Gilead windmill.
  7. Copy of Sydney Morning Herald, 30 July 1932 showing the Mt Gilead Windmill. Some of the information in this article is incorrect and the copy is not very good.
  8. Copy of Power of Attorney from Mrs Ann Bartlett to Thomas Rose, 20 August
  9. 1811, No. 483 in Old Register No. 5, NSW Land Titles Office. Also on this page is a Lease from John Burgess to Thomas Rose and a Lean from Obediah Ikin to Thomas Rose.
  10. Copy from Historical Records of Australia, Series I, Volume XVIII. Page 43
  11. Transcript of letter from Richard Bourke to Earl of Aberdeen re Thomas Rose’ memorial, page 44-46 is a transcript of the memorial, page 364 is a letter from Lord Glenelg refusing the request.
  12. Copy of pages from Lachlan Macquarie, His Life, Adventures and Times by M.E. Ellis which relate to the seditious incident. Page 345 mentions ‘Rose’,p. 571 is the reference for the source.
  13. Copy of pages from The Hatch and Brood of Time by Portia Robinson. I’ve lost these pages but will replace them in Armidale this week. (P. 273 mentions John Henderson, p. 313 is the source of this information. P. 230 mentions Thomas Rose, p. 311 is the source of this information.)
  14. Copy of pages from The Memoirs of Obed West – A Portrait of Early Sydney, by Edward West Marriott which mention Thomas Rose & The Rose and Crown.
  15. Information from Mollie Gillen’s The Founders of Australia – A Biographical
    Dictionary of the First Fleet
    , which mentions William Balmain, Margaret Dawson and John William Henderson.
  16. Journal and Proceedings from the Royal Australian Historical Society, Vol.
  17. XXVII p. 359-366, Mount Gilead Estate and Windmill, Campbelltown by John F. Morris. The copy is not very good.
  18. Will of Sarah Rose (nee Pye).

LAND GRANTS, SALES AND PURCHASES

The following are land grants from indexes at the Land Titles Office.

I don’t have copies of the grants. I’m assuming these are all for OUR Thomas Rose, I didn’t include the ones at Liberty Plains and MacDonald River. I haven’t written out all the land purchases Thomas made. There are lots of those.

Grant Index 1792-1826

Rose, Thomas

Where acres Serial No. Page

Evan 100 4 233

Evan 100 5 56

Airds 1300 12 256

Appin 300 18 15

Grants Index 1827-1830

Name acres Where Register No. Page

Rose, James H 644 Yass S.27 368

Rose, Thomas 660 Near Yass Plains S.27 530

Rose, Thomas 60 Bulli 22 460

Rose, Thomas & Sarah160 Mundoonen 24 473

Rose, Jas. H. 644 Yass 20 368

Rose, Jas. H. 650 Yass 20 370

Rose, Thomas 660 Near Yass Plains 20 530

Rose, J.H. 918 Yass 25 788

Grants Index 1830-1839

Name acres Where Register No. Page

Rose, Sarah (wife of Thos)

160 King 35 265

Rose, Thomas 19¾p. Sydney 39 189

Rose, Thomas 16½p. Sydney 39 80

Rose, Thomas 16½p. Sydney 39 80

Rose, Thomas 40a Cook 43 33

Rose, Thomas -2r.26p. Sydney 47 156

Rose, Thomas 60a Cumberland 33 191

Rose, Thomas 660a Murray 31 142

Rose, Thomas & Sarah160a King 35 265

Rose, James Hannibal 644a Murray 31 67

Rose, James Hannibal 832a Murray 68 160

Rose, James Hannibal 986a Murray 65 78

Rose, James Hannibal 918a Murray 32 82

Rose, James Hannibal 650a Murray 31 66

Index to Town Grants & Purchases 1827-1831

Allot. Sec. No. Page

Rose, Thomas 16½p. 13 35 Sydney 3 225

Rose, Thomas 19¾p. 8 33 Sydney 4 61

Rose, Thomas 2r.26p. 3 39 Sydney 36 207

There are numerous sales of this land while Thomas was alive but mostly after he died. I’ve enclosed copies of Conveyances of Book 82 No. 455, Book 83 No. 44, Book 83 No. 496 from the Land Titles Office. These seem to be where we defaulted on the mortgages of Mount Gilead. -Dianne Giles 1999

NOTES ON THE PERKINS FAMILY
-Dianne Giles 1999

1. Transcript of a memorial Richard Perkins wrote to Lachlan Macquarie on 10 February 1817 requesting permission to travel to Port Dalrymple on Mr Salter's schooner. He says he has a wife and family.

2. An ad. placed by Richard Perkins on 23 May 1818 in the Sydney Gazette cautioning the public against giving his wife credit as she absented herself from home without any provocation. Jane was born on 24 July 1818. So where was Richard nine months before Jane was born? According to the shipping records, he was in Sydney from 18 September to 9 November 1817.

3. An ad. in the Sydney Gazette on 1 July, 1820 stating that Richard Perkins was lleaving the Colony on the Brig, Governor Macquarie to Port Dalrymple. This is the last time I have found him mentioned in any newspapers, ships musters etc.

4. Richard received his Absolute Pardon on 19 August 1819. I haven't looked at the microfilm for this yet but this was listed in a Shipping List.

5. According to the 1805-1806 Musters of NSW and Norfold Island, Ann Daniels (Sarah [Burgess] Perkins mother) is listed as having one male child and two female children. The male child is John bom in 1804, one of the females is Sarah born in 1897. I believe the other female child may be Mary, although there is no record of her birth. In the 1822 Muster there is a Mary Burgess, aged 21 years who was born in the colony. She is listed as a servant of T. Rose, Sydney. In the 1814 Muster, there is a Mary Burgess listed beneath Elizabeth Bartlett Rose. The notes for the muster say that people 'are grouped together under the name of an employer or the place of employment and family members were often listed consecutively'. If this Mary was Sarah Perkin's sister, Sarah would have visited Mary and could have become acquainted with Thomas Rose that way or perhaps it was Sarah who got Mary the job in the first place. I can send you copies of the Musters if you don't have them.

6. Newspaper reports of Ann and Jane Perkins' weddings. This proves that they were at Mount Gilead from sometime before 1828 up until their marriages and that Jane,at least, considered herself Thomas' daughter. Whether this was because she really was is open to debate. -Dianne Giles 1999

I'll send you more next time: I can e-mail you or send you a disk of any of the information I have sent that is typed. I'm happy to send you some money to cover photocopying, postage and other costs. Yours sincerely

Diane Giles giles~turboweb. net. au
(we've just been connected to the Internet but probably won’t use it more than once or twice a week.)

ACTIVITIES REPORTED FROM PAPERS OF THE NSW COLONIAL SECRETARY

Archives Office of New South Wales,Guide No 30: Index to the Papers of the NSW Colonial Secretary, 1788-1825 Dianne Giles 1999

ROSE, Thomas Per "Barwell", 1798; baker and publican; landholder at Campbelltown

1809 Aug 22 On list of all grants and leases of town allotments registered in the Colonial Secretary' s Office (Fiche 3268; 9/2731 p. 226) n.d. On list of convicts who have received absolute pardons (1 Dec 1809) (Fiche 3292; 4/6974.1 p. 77)

1810 Jan31 Baker at the Rose and Crown, Chapel Row, Sydney; volunteer in Loyal Association. Memorial for confirmation of grant, lease and pardon (Fiche 3009; 4/1822 No. 286)

1810 Jun 4 Member of Loyal Sydney Volunteer Association (Reel 6042; 4/1725 p. 12)

1810 Jul7 Of Chapel Row. Issued with licence to retail beer, ale and porter (Reel 6038; SZ758 pp. 72-73)

1811 Mar6 Received spirit licenee in Feb 1811 (Reel 6038; SZ758 pp. 181-3)

1813 Aug 7 On list of persons holding licences for sale of wine and spirituous liquors (Reel 6038; SZ758 pp. 405-7)

1814 Feb l6 Memorial of John Faultless, free settler residing at Rose' s in Castlereagh Street (Reel 6044; 4/1729 p. 26)

1814 Jun 30 On list of persons to receive grants of land in 1814; in the Evans District (Fiche 3266; 9/2652 p. 16)

1815 April 1 On lists of persons licensed as publicans; for 1815 and 1816 April 6 at Sydney (Reel 6038; SZ759 pp. 54, 192)

1816 Sep 25 On list of persons whose land grants have been cancelled on account of seditious conduct; 40 acres in Evan District (Reel 6005; 4/3495 p. 149}

1819 Nov 23 Memorial to send stock to Bathurst (Fiche 3012;4/1822aNo.44App. 145-8)

1820 June 13 Petition for permission to hold horse races in Sydney for two days in Aug (Reel 6049; 4/t1744 pp. 370-2)

1820 c. Jul Formerly of Loyal Association, Sydney. Memorial (Fiche 3029; 4/1825A No. 646 pp. 523--6)

1821 Feb l9 Re compensation for land required as site for charity school (Reel 6051;4/1748pp. 261-4)

1821 Oct 25 Memorial proposing establishment of stage coach between Sydney and Parramatta and asking exemption from payment of tolls and exclusive right to carry mail at given rates (Reel 6051; 4/1749 pp. 107-10}

1822 Jan l4 Witness to statements claiming that John Booth had spoken indecently against Major Druitt and that Dr Bowman had encouraged Charles Ellis to bring charges against Major Druitt (Reel 6053; 4/1754 pp. 355, 357)

1822 Mar5 Requesting a gang of men to clear 100 acres of land at Airds (Reel 6055; 4/1760 pp. 188-188a)

1822 Mar27 Clearing gang assigned to from Woodcock's road party (Reel 6022; 4/7014 p. 115)

1822 Mar28 Letter explaining new regulations for the rationing of men employed clearing land; had authority to select 22 convicts from Woodcock's Road part to clear land on his farm at Airds (Reel 6009; 4/3505 pp. 89-90)

1822 Mar30 Re return of wheat due from settlers who had received clearing gangs (Reel 6022; 4/7014 pp. 3, 5, 11)

1822 Apr 9 On return of fines imposed by Magistrates at Campbelltown on persons violating Government orders (Reel 6060, 4/1777 p. 247)

1822 Apr27 Re estimate of labour performed by clearing gangs (Reel 6002; 4/7014 p. 9)

1822 May 27 -1824 Sep On list of persons receiving an assigned convict (Fiche 3290; 4/4570D pp. 14, 23, 67; Fiche 3291; 4/4570D p. 121)

1822 Jun 22 Re races (Reel 6009; 4/3505 p. 423)

1822 Sep 30, Oct 12, 30 Re memorial of his assigned servant William Presnell who was concerned for his crops and livestock at Richmond as he was required to remain at Rose's farm at Appin (Reel 6017; 4/5783 pp. 150-1; Reel 6001; 4/3506 p. 369; Reel 6055; 4/1762 pp. 30-30b)

1822 Sep30 1823 Sep30 On lists of persons to who convict mechanics have been assigned (Fiche 3296; x53 pp. 34, 49, 65, 79)

1823 On list of landowners and details of land cleared by clearing gangs (Reel 6022; 4/7014 p. 14)

1823 Feb 24 To Bench of Magistrates, Campbelltown, forwarding bond for execution (Reel 6010; 4/3507 p. 370)

1823 Mar 4 Request to have a ploughman assigned (Reel 6058; 4/1769 p. 145b)

1823 Mar 10 On list of clearing gang bonds delivered to William Wemyss (Reel 6022; 4/7014 p. 321)

1823 Apr 17 His clearing party employed to reap wheat on Thomas Rowley's farm in the Campbelltown District (Reel 6058; 4/1769 p. 159c)

1823 May 2 Memorial for ticket of occupation in County of Argyle (Fiche 3071; 4/1835B no. 277 pp. 697-700) Granted, 7 May (Reel 6010; 4/3508 p. 262)

1823 May 31 Compensation for land; cited in Larkins v Cavenagh dispute over land (Reel 6056; 4/1765 p. 145)

1823 Jun 21 Re bonds for work performed by clearing parties (Reel 6058; 4/1769 p. 162)

1823 Jun 24 Re account of land cleared by clearing gangs on estate of (Reel 6022; 4/7014 p. 267)

1823 Oct 31 Shareholder in the Bank of New South Wales (Reel 6040; SZ1049 p: 2)

1824 Feb 13 Allowed temporary occupation of land eight miles west of Breadalbane Plains for use as a grazing run (Reel 6012; 4/3510 p. 331)

1824 c. Jul On acccount of rents received for assigned convict tradesmen for the three quarters ending 30 Jun 1824 (Reel 6061; 4/1779 p. 173e)

1824 Jul 31 Convict per 'Countess of Harcourt' assigned to at Appin(Reel 6028; 2/8283 p. 65)

1824 Oct 4 On return of grain in possession of settlers in District of Appin (Reel 6061; 4/1780 p. 301a)

1824 Oct 8 On list of defaulters in payment for assigned convict tradesmen up to 30 Sep 1824 (Fiche 3293; 5/3821.1 p. 5)

1825 Re conditions of land grant in compensation for land surrendered as recorded in Surveyor General's Register (Fiche 3264; 4/7081 p. 105)

1825 Feb Memorial for a ticket of occupation (Fiche3134; 4/}1842A No. 349 p. 273) Granted, 14 Feb (Reel 6014; 4/3513 p. 415)

1825 May9 Signature on recommendation of Thomas William Middleton's memorial re retaining the situation of Inspector of Cattle (Reel 6062; 4/1782 p. 48c)

1825 Jun 4 Petition re coach service between Sydney, Parramatta, Windsor and Liverpool; requesting remuneration and exemption from paying tolls (Reel 6062; 4/1782 p. 60)

1825 Jun 29 Oct 25 Projector of the Royals Mails undertaking. Memorials, including list of prisoners of the crown in his employ (Fiche 3153; 4/1844ANo. 706 pp. 337-50}

1825 Dec 12 Replies, 14 Oct and 17 Dec (Reel 6015; 4/3515 p. 434; Reel 6016; 4/3516 p. 197)

1825 Nov 11 Recommending Mathew Prior Pigott for land (Fiche 3150; 4/1843B No. 649 p. 1104)

1825 Nov 12,14 On list of persons who have received orders for grants of land (Fiche 3266; 9/2652 p. 100); on list of lands granted and reserved by Sir Thomas Brisbane (Fiche 3269; 9/2740 p. 25)

NSW COLONIAL SECRETARIES PAPERS

A transcript of some of the interesting papers from the NSW Colonial Secretary Papers. Where the word was hard to read, I have put a ‘?’. Some of the originals at the AONSW cannot be copied, others can be copied.

  • 1810 - RE HORSE RACING

    AONSW Fiche 3009, No. 286

    To His Excellency Lachlan Macquarie

    Esq Captain General and Governor in Chief

    The respectful Memorial of Thomas Rose Stating:

  • That Memorialist has inhabited this Colony for the span of 12 years, and behaved himself in such a manner as to obtain a Conditional Pardon, under the Hand of Governor King, who was further pleased to accept of him as a Volunteer in the Sydney Loyal Association to which he at present belongs.

    That Mem.st is married & has two children with the prospect of an increasing family and being desirous of making some provision for such, he applied to Lieutenant Governor Paterson for such as proportion of Land as he might please to allot him as a farm, when he was pleased to allow him the enclosed Grant of One hundred Acres as also the inclosed Lease of his Premises he now occupies for 14 years in consideration of the expense he had incurred in Building and keeping his Garden in so good a state of Cultivation which when he first came to it was little better than a barren Rock, but is now by his own entire industry become in high Cultivation; by which he is able make some profit that Lieutenant Governor Paterson taking into his consideration the good

    behaviour which your Excellency's Memorialist has ever borne in this Colony was further pleased on application to grant Memorialist a free Pardon.

    Memorialist therefore most humbly entreats your Excellency will be pleased to take into consideration the foregoing circumstances and if your Excellency shall be graciously pleased to review such Grant Lease and Pardon, the most boundless gratitude will fill the heart of Memorialist, but should your Excellency disapprove such a measure at present he sincerely hopes his conduct will ever be found worthy of my indulgence however great it may be which your Excellency may at any future time be pleased to confer on him.

    And Memorialist ever solicitous to give satisfaction to your Excellency patiently

    awaits the result of your determinations. And as in duty bound will ever pray.

    Thos Rose

    Baker at the Rose and Crown,

    Chapell Row, Sydney

    31 Jany 1810

  • AONSW Reel 6049, p. 370-2 No 49

    Sydney, 13th June 1820

    May it please your Excellency

  • We are induced by recollection of your Excellencys former indulgence to the Inhabitants of the Colony, to beg in their names the favour of Providing Horse Races for two days in August, persuaded the custom will lend to the improvements of that useful Animal as well as to the amusement of the public in general and we pledge ourselves to every exertion to preserve good order on the occasion.

  • His Excellency Governor Macquarie

    Having the honor to be with all deference and due respect Your Excellency' s

    Most Obedient and very humble servants.

    Tho. Rose

    Edward Franks

    Miles Fieldgate

    Answer

    The Governor has no objection to give his sanction of the inhabitants of the colony having races at Sydney for two days in the month of August. But no more than two days must be particularly specified and notice there of must be given in the first Sydney Gazette.

    Parramatta 15 June 1820 LM

    1821 - COMPENSATION FOR CHARITY SCHOOL

    AONSW Reel Reel 6051, p. 261-4.

    No 16

    261

    Sydney February 19th 1821

    Sir,

    Agreeable to the wish of his Excellency the Governor made known to me through you. I present you with an estimate of what I consider a reasonable compensation for the land required by His Excellency.

    It would have been more satisfactory to me had it been left to the decision of two competent judges but as it is otherwise arranged it remains only for me to state the compensation expected. I have to premise that the small house occupied by Kellahar does not belong to me. There are two cottages standing on the land in question, which I desire to be rebuilt no? any other piece of ground in Sydney belonging to me that I may ? for the purposes; and for the ground I expect a grant of one thousand acres in lieu thereof.

    Considering the undeniable situation of land and the certainty of its rapid increase in value the above mentioned compensation will not I trust be considered by His Excellency beyond what may be reasonably expected but should this so unfortunate as to differ in opinion with His Excellency then I must beg to have it settle by arbitration.

    I am Sir,

    Thos Rose

    263 1200 acres of land - not a town allotment.

    I agree to receive 1200 acres of land to be selected in any unappropriated disposable situation and a town allotment in Sydney at an equivalent & remuneration per the situation required for a Charity School on the south side of my present residence and lying between Castlereagh and Elizabeth Streets in the town of Sydney.

    Sydney 19th Feby 1921

    Thos Rose

    1821 - RE STAGE COACH

    AONSW Reel6051, p. 107-10.

    No 70

    To His Excellency

    Lachlan Macquarie Esqr

    Captain General

    25 Oct 1821

    The humble Memorial of

    Joseph Underwood, Thomas Rose, Edward Franks and others

    Respectfully herewith:

  • That Memorialists perceiving the many benefits that would accrue to the Inhabitants of the Colony particularly to those residing in the Towns of Sydney and Parramatta from the establishment of a Stage Coach between those Towns.

    They your Excellencys Memorialists feeling assured of your patronage and desirous of receiving your Excellencys sanction for the carrying such plan into execution.

    That Memorialists fully aware of the difficulty in the present Infant State of the Colony yet having in vi?? public utility rather than private benefit are resolved to encounter every obstacle if assisted by the protection of your Excellency.

    That Memorialists from the foregoing consideration humbly request your Excellency will be pleased to permit the Coach to run free of Toll, or any other duty for a specific term of Years, and that they may have the exclusive privilege by land during such period to carry all letters and parcels between the beforementioned towns.

    That your Memorialists have with your Excellency's approbation determined upon the following rates for Passengers and parcels vixL

  • For each inside Passenger 7.6

    do do do up & down 10.0

    do outside do 3.0

    do do do up & down 5.0

  • For every letter delivered at either of the above places as directed 0.2

    For every pound weight of luggage 0.6

    That Memorialists humbly submit the above to your Excellency's consideration.

    And your Memorialists will ever pray

  • Joseph Underwood

    Thoms Rose

    Edwd Franks

    1823 - GRAZING LEASE – LAKE BATHURST

    AONSW Reel 6010, p. 262

    175/322

    Colonial Secretary's Office

    7th May 1823

    Sir

    TR

    On near Hip

  • I am directed by the Governor to convey to you His sanction for the temporary occupation of 3,000 acres of land in a circle around your stock yard to be erected near the Forest hills near the East Side of Lake Bathurst, for the use of your Herd as a Graziers Run, to be placed under the charge of Michael Mellon free by Certificate and Thomas Thomas Convict per Recovery, provided it is now depastering by no previous occupant, that the Cattle kept thereon are marked as described on the Margin, and until such time as Government may choose (six months Notice being previously given) to revoke this Indulgence and resume the possession to itself.

  • I am, Sir,

    F Goulburn

    Mr Thos. Rose

    Sydney

    1813 - SEDITIOUS CONDUCT - CANCELLATION OF LAND GRANTS

    List of Names of Free Persons who had Lands located for them in the Years 1813 and 1814 – but which promised Lands are now Cancelled on Account of their Recent Seditious Conduct. - ???

    In 1813

    1. Samuel Terry on Evan District 300 Acres

    2. Henry Baldwin Kurry Iony 80 Do

    3. Gustavus Lowe South Creek 100 Do

    *4. Charles Thompson Evan District 50 Do

    *5. Thomas Rose Do Do 40 Do

    N.B.

    In case the Names above Specified Marked * have not yet received the Grants of the Lands located for them previous to the Year 1814 – they are not to receive them – And the same are hereby Revoked and Cancelled.

    "Signed" To all

    Government House Sydney 25th Sept. 1816 True Copy "Signed"

    M.F. Campbell Esq.?

  • SYDNEY GAZETTE – SALE OF ‘Mt GILEAD’

    COPY OF SYDNEY GAZETTE, 16TH MAY 1818, p2, SHOWING SALE OF ‘GILEAD FARMBY MR BEVAN AT HIS ROOMS IN GEORGE STEET

    Transcription:

    BY MR BEVAN At his Rooms in George-street, on Wednesday the 27th

    Instant, without Reserve,

    One of the most valuable ESTATES in the Colony, situate in the District of Appin, known by the Name of Gilead Farm, and joining that of Mr Woodhouse; comprising 400 Acres, 50 of which are cleared, and 50 more fell there – lies a good House and Skelling, erected on a highly pleasant Hill, commanding a view of the Cow Pastures for many miles; a good Barn, & c. – The Ground is unexceptionable, having been cultivated for these 4-years past, producing wonder Crops, and has been let for £50 per year: adjoining, there is one of the best Stock Runs in the Colony, and is well worthy the Attention of any Persons having a large Stock, or included to follow agricultural pursuits. – Prompt Payment.

    Further Particulars may be had at No. 78, Pitt Street.

     

    THE OLD WINDMILL MT GILEAD

    SYDNEY MORNING HERALD Saturday June 27 1925,

    "Built nearly a century ago at Campbelltown District and still standing".

    The remains of the old windmill on Mount Gilead form a prominent land mark. They are visable to travellers on the main southern railway line, lying on the eastern side of it a few miles on the Sydney side of Menangle. The woodwork has quite disappeared, and the stonework is in a state of disrepair. The exact year when the windmill was erected is unknown; but it is supposed to have been in the region of 1832, since Thomas Rose, the builder, held this land between 1829 and 1837. Mr Rose was also the owner of the land in Elizabeth Street where the Girls’ High School until a few years ago. He died in 1837, and it is supposed that the windmill was never used afterwards, for with the advent of rust, wheatgrowing passed out of the district to give place to dairy farming. The historical significance of this building lies in the fact that it is one of two remaining windmills in the state, the other being at Nimmitybelle. The land on which it stands was originally granted to Reuben Uther, passed from him to Captain Christmas, and thence to Mr Rose.

     

    THE MOUNT GILEAD MILL AS IT APPEARED FORTY YEARS AGO

    SYDNEY MORNING HERALD Saturday July 30 1932

    The Mill was erected by Thomas Rose, who purchased the Mount Gilead Estate in 1829. It was used for grinding all the corn of the District.

    An article titled: Mount Gilead Windmill Mill. A Campbelltown Relic. Written by T Crampton was attached to this photo. It was reproduced again on 5th January 1935.

    The Telegraph, Saturday 5th, 1935

    VANISHING LANDMARKS

    By Gayfield Shaw,

    A few miles outside Campbelltown towards Menangle stands what appears to be a well built round tower tapering symmetrically from the base. This is all that remains of the historic Mount Gilead Windmill, shown in our picture, taken about forty years ago, (ie.1895, the article was written in Jan1935). The records show that Thomas Rose, one of the early free settlers, purchased Mt Gilead Estate from Colonel Christmas about 1829 and considerably improved the property. He built the windmill with convict labour, and formed a large dam, which was deemed to be the first of its kind in Australia. The dam proved to be of great use to the district in times of drought. And as Rose considered it to be an object lesson for all other settlers, he applied to the authorities for some recognition of this pioneer work; but he asked in vain.

    Rose and the surrounding settlers were wheat farmers, and the mill was used for the purpose of grinding by wind power all the grain grown in the district. The mill is built of cut stone, and the woodwork of the structure, the four floors, the mill shaft, and the various gear wheels, are all or locally grown iron-bark.

    This was not Mr. Rose's first venture. In 1809 he received from Lieutenant Governor Paterson a lease of the land at the corner

    Of King and Castlereagh streets (the site of the "Daily Telqraph' Building, late Savoy Hotel) for a term of 14 years, at the rental of 6/- (six shillings) per annum. The land was described as having a frontage of 125 feet to Chapel Row -- as Castlereagh Street was then called -- bounded on the north by I cross (now called King Street). On this block his house was built facing Chapel Row. This he used as a Bakery, and as time went on built another structure adjoining it, for which he obtained a spirit licence, calling the inn (somewhat whimsically perhaps) "The Rose and Crown Hotel."

    WHEAT-RUST AND RUIN.

    Rose may have made money out of his city businesses, but he did not do so well in the Mt Gilead property, as rust attacked the wheat and the mill became silent. Nearly all the farmers of the district were ruined,

    and there was no Farrar of that time to discover rust-proof wheats.

    At a later date Rose sold the property to Mr. George R Woodhouse, who owned the adjoining block. Mr. Woodhouse had come out to Australia as an articled clerk to Judge Advocate Ellis Bent, and afterwards became

    a private secretary to Macquarie. His son Edward Hume married at the Gilmore Mill, Tumut, and the daughter of Henry Bingham the Commissioner of Crown Lands, Cassillis, in Governor Bourke's time. A well bound volume at the Mitchell Library contains only a sale pamphlet of Mills and Pile, Auctioneers, prepared for sale day, 12th April 1888, for the owner, Edmund B Woodhouse, son of the above, Edmund died in 1908.

    About fifteen years ago (this would be 1920) Mr. J H Rose, then residing at Burwood, stated that his mother was the first to discover rust upon her dress when she was walking amid the wheat crop. The same gentleman is the authority for the statement that the old mill was struck by lighting on the night that the Dunbar was wrecked at the Gap, on August 20th 1857.

    Other storms have wrecked this mill since then, ripped off the sails, and smashed the dome. But it still stands as an evidence of the good works into its construction by the builder a century ago.

    NB (Photos could not be reproduce satisfactorily, someone needs to get copies from the archives)

    Jan 5th, 1935

    THE OLD MENANGLE MILL, depicted in the above etching, is all that remains of one of the state's first flour mills now crumbling into the past.

    Jan 12th, 1935.

    THESE OUTBUILDINGS of the old MENANGLE MILL (depicted in last Saturday's issue), stated to have been built by convict labor, are reminiscent of the vanishing past.

    NB (Photos could not be reproduce satisfactorily, someone needs to get copies from the archives)

    POWERS OF ATTORNEY. LEASES AND LEANS

    COPY OF POWER OF ATTORNEY FROM MRS ANN BARTLETT TO THOMAS ROSE,

    20 August 1811, No. 483 in Old Register No. 5, NSW Land Titles Office.

    August 24 – 1811(39) OLD REGISTER No. 5

    Power of Attorney dated 20th August 1811 – From Mrs Ann Bartlet of Sydney to Mr Thomas Rose of Sydney appointing him her true and lawful attorny, generally to act in her behalf and c Signed Ann Bartlett her X – Witnesses Samuel Foster & Richard Verrier.

    LEASE FROM JOHN BURGESS TO THOMAS ROSE

    Lease being date 20th August 1811 – from Mr John Burgels? Of Sydney unto Mr Thomas Rose of same place for 28 years – in Consideration of 5 Shillings, acknowledging the Receipt thereof, the said Burgels? Doth demise, lease let and to farm let, unto the said Rose, all that Farm and Premises, known by the Name of Black-heath, situated in the District of Evan, containing 80 acres of Land more or less, the said Farm to be held by the said Rose for the above period, on paying the yearly Rent of £30 Sterling by 4 equal quarterly payments as in the Lease recited – Signed John Burgel? And Thomas Rose, Witness Richard Hughes and Richard Verrier.

    LEAN FROM OBEDIAH IKIN TO THOMAS ROSE.

    Lease dated 20 August 1811 – from Obediah Ikin to Thomas Rose of Sydney in Consideration of 5 Shillings the said Ikin doth demise Lease & c to the said Rose all that Farms and Premises known by the name of Derrintend situated in the District of Evan, containing 60 acres of Land, more or less, to hold the same for the term of 21 years, yielding and paying the yearly Rent of £25 Sterling by instalments as in Lease. ?. Signed Obediah Ikin and Thomas Rose, Witnesses Richard Hughes and Richard Verrier.

    APPLICATION FOR LAND GRANT BY THOMAS ROSE IN RETURN FOR SERVICE RENDERED BY CONSTRUCTION ON HIS FARM AND EMBANKMENT FOR RETAINING WATER.

    HISTORICAL RECORDS OF AUSTRALIA, SERIES 1 GOVERNOR’S DESPATCHES TO AND FROM ENGLAND.

  • SIR RICHARD BOURKE TO EARL OF ABERDEEN.

    (Despatch No. 67, per ship Bachelor; acknowledged by Lord Glenelg,

    28th March, 1836)

    Government House, 23 July, 1835

    My Lord,

    In conformity with the Regulation by which I am required to forward communications addressed by the Inhabitants of this Colony to J.M.’s Government, I have the honor to forward a Memorial from Mr Thos. Rose.

    He prays for a free grant of Land in acknowledgement of the service he has rendered the Colony by constructing on his farm an embankment for retaining water, which has been useful in supplying his neighbours, and is likely to be advantageous as an example to other Settlers.

    I have seen the structure to which his Memorial refers, and must bear testimony to its useful character, though without urging the propriety of rewarding the undertaking in the matter solicited.

    I have, &c.,

    RICHARD BOURKE

    *Marginal note.-Convicts: Robert Booth, James Carroll, Henry Cullen, Robert James.

    [Enclosure]

    THE HUMBLE MEMORIAL OF THOMAS ROSE, OF APPIN, IN THE COLONY OF NEW SOUTH WALES, SETTLER

    To His Majesty’s Principal Secretary of State for the Colonial Department,

    Sheweth,

    That it is well known to all persons, conversant with His Majesty’s possessions in Australasia, that the great natural defect in the Colony of New South Wales is its want of water owing to the irregularity of its rains and the fewness of its rivers; a defect which has at all times, from the foundation of the Settlement, been more or less injurious to its interests, but which, during the drought that broke up in the Year 1829, involved all classes of the community, more especially the agriculturists and Graziers, in the severest distresses.

    That the District of Appin, about 40 Miles to the Southward of Sydney, is peculiarly subject to this afflictive privation, being situated on a range of hills from 3 to 7 Miles in width between Tuggerah Creek and a feeble branch of the River Nepean, both of which in that part of the Country form precipitous and almost inaccessible ravines.

    That the District Township (Campbell Town) founded by Governor Macquarie about 17 Years ago, depending entirely upon the Rain for its supply of water, has frequently been reduced to the most painful extremity of suffering, the inhabitants having had in seasons of drought, to carry their supplies from places no less than 4 or 5 miles distant from the Township.

    That both in the Township and in the country attempts were made to remedy this sore evil by sinking of Wells, which however, proved next to useless, for in seasons of drought, when they were most required, they were dry, and the water they retain after falls of Rain was invariably brackish.

    That Your Memorialist’s estate (named Mound Gilead) being on a more elevated and precipitous part of the range, received no benefit even from the Rains, farther than the moistening of its surface as the waters rushed at once into a distant part of the Nepean: and, although Your Memorialist sank a deep and expensive well and formed other excavations for retaining the Rain, his efforts were abortive, the water being always brackish.

    That, about 12 Years ago, Your Memorialists’s live-stock and farming establishment had become so extensive that his sufferings from want of water became most serious; and he was constantly led to revolve in his own mind every conceivable expedient for obtaining adequate and permanent supplies. The only artificial resources which he had every heard or read sinking for springs, intercepting running streams or excavating Tanks or Wells for the retention of Rain water were out of the question, for neither Springs or Streams were to be found and the inefficacy of Wells and tanks has been shown above.

    That, after long and anxious consideration, it occurred to Your Memorialist that, by means of enbankment, it might be possible to collect the Rain water upon the natural surface of the ground in so great a body as to withstand both evaporation and absorption: and, in the Year 1824, he made an experiment of the kind upon a small scale, and with such success that he at once resolved upon the commencement of another, but upon a scale so bold and efficient as not only to secure to his own establishment a plenteous and niver-failing supply of excellent, but moreover to furnish an example to the Colony at large.

    That Your Memorialist accordingly selected the spot, which appeared most favourable to his undertaking, being a hollow at the foot of three gently sloping hills, the waters from which, in times of Rain, rushed onward to a deep Ravine and thense lost themselves in the River Nepean. His plans*, as nearly as it can be described in words was as follows. The foundation of the embankment was composed of two parallel layers of stone, the front or inner one being a yard in width, and the Stones chiseled square and smooth; the other was of rough stone but worked in good mortar. Between these layers was left an open spece of 18 Inches in width, which was afterwards filled up with moistened earth or puddle. At the elevation of 9 or 10 feet, the rear wall was discontinued, but the front one advanced to the height of 17 feet from the deepest part of the ground. These walls were supported at the Rear by an embankment of dry earth, rammed hard at every layer of 6 inches, and flanked by an outer walls of rough stone. The extreme length of the inner walls is 104 yards, and its line slightly curved, approaching in form to the segment of a circle. At either extremity of the embankment is a sluice for carrying off any surplus of water; and if the weather be carefully observed, the reservoir can be so effectually regulated by these Sluices as to allow the water, with perfect safety, to rise within an inch of the margin. The surface of the lake or reservoir, when full, measures 252 yards in length on one side and 214 yards on the other, and 80 yards in extreme width, presenting the shape of an irregular traingle. It has now existed for upwards of 10 Years, and throughout the destructive and unexampled drought above alluded to, was never reduced more than 18 inches below its highest level; thus at once affording an inexhaustible supply of the purest water, and adding a picturesque ornament to the landscape.

    That the only objection raised by the inhabitants to this undertaking, and which left imitation out of the power of the greater portion of them, being its expensiveness and Your Memorialist, earnestly desirous that its advantages should be available to all classes, formed another on a smaller scale and without the use of Stone, the embankment being constructed entirely of earth; and he has had the satisfaction of finding that, during the period of 6 years, this humble reservoir has never been exhausted, and being nearer the public road than the larger one, has afforded never-failing supplies to his poorer neighbours for many miles around, and at the same time, served the purpose of a commodious bridge.

    That, in the Year 1833, His Excellency Governor Bourke was pleased to honour Your Memorialist with a visit to his estate, when His Excellency was so well satisfied with the results of Your Memorialists’s plan, that His Excellency lost no time in giving to the inhabitants of Campbell Town a plot of ground for the like purpose, and a reservoir was forthwith constructed thereon by public subscription; and, although the workmanship, performed by contract, was comparatively unskilful and slovenly, it was afforded complete relief from those sufferings to which as was before mentioned, the Township was formerly so often subjected.

    That the late Church and School Corporation having ascertained the usefulmess of Your Memorialists’s undertaking, applied to him for information on the subject, and constructed a reservoir, upon his model, on the Orphan Scghool farm at Cabramatta; and Your Memorialist understands that it has there also fully realised its important purpose.

    *Note 15.

    That many of the Settlers and respectable inhabitants, whose estates were destitute of water, have been led by Your Memorialist’s example to avail themselves of this simple and effectual method of husbanding the waters of heaven.

    That Your Memorialist has thus succeeded, after years of anxious contrivance and laborious exertion and a considerable expenditure of money, in demonstrating the possibility of securing an ample supply of pure water through all seasons, in any part of the country where the surface at all undulates, and at an expense which every industrious Settler may easily afford.

    That Your Memorialist is convinced, both by experience and observation, that this plan for securing water might be successfully adopted by the Government in supplying Townships requiring artificial resources, and would be infinitely less expensive, if not far more effectual than acqueducts of Canals. And he begs permission to say, without the slightest intention to reflect upon any of the local authorities, that, had his principle been applied to the Town of Sydney, a body of water might, within the space of a Year or two and at an insignificant expense, have been accumulated, abundantly sufficient not only for the consumption of the inhabitants but for the irrigation of the Town.

    That Your Memorialist would respectfully suggest that his plan might be adopted with great advantage in the construction of bridges on the high roads, inasmuch as the ambankments would answer every purpose of bridges, and be more durable and less expensive than most of those now in use in this Colony; while the bodies of water, which would be thus accumulated, would be of the most essential service to the flocks and herds and other live stock travelling to and fro.

    That, although Your Memorialist was in the first instance urged to this expedient by the pressure of his own individual necessities, and although his subsequent endeavours to promote its general adoption have been dictated by a disinterested concern for the welfare of his fellow Colonists, he now ventures, at the suggestion of many intelligent persons, to bring his undertaking under the condescending notice of His Majesty’s Government, with the humble hope that it may be deemed worthy of public recognition, as suggesting a valuable resource of general applicability; and that he may be honoured with some token that his exertions are not held undeserving of official commendation.

    Wherefore Your Memorialist humbly prays that you, Right Honourable Sir, will be pleased to take the premises into your favourable consideration; and, if His Majesty’s liberal and enlighted Government shall be of opinion that he has rendered a useful service to his country, that they will be pleased to authorize the local Administration to confer upon Your Memorialist a Grant of Land, or such other mark of approbation as to His Majesty’s Government may seem meet.

    And Your Memorialist, as in duty bound will every pray, etc., etc.,

    THOMAS ROSE

    Appin, New South Wales, 15th January, 1835

    LORD GLENELG TO SIR RICHARD BOURKE.

    (Despatch No. 135, per ship Moffatt.)

    Downing Street, 28 March, 1836

    Sir,

    I have received your Despatch No. 67 of the 23rd of July last, enclosing a Memorial from Mr Thomas Rose praying for "a Grant of Land or such other mark of approbation as to His Majesty’s Government may seem meet," in acknowledgement of the service which he has rendered to the Colony by constructing on his Farm an Embankment or reservoir for the supply of Water.

    It is impossible for me to form a judgment, except from your report, as to the actual extent of the benefit which Mr Rose may have conferred on his fellow Colonists; and, as I perceive that you do not consider yourself called upon to urge the propriety of rewarding the undertaking in the manner solicited, I can only arrive at the conclusion that Mr Rose’s claim is not such as to justify a complience with his application.

    I have, &c.

    GLENELG

    THE SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOUR INCIDENT

    Copy of pages from

    Lachlan Macquarie, His Life, Adventures and Times

    by M.E. Ellis (relate to the seditious incident. Page 345 mentions ‘Rose’,p. 571 is the reference for the source.)

  • It was about this time that Macquarie first was given some inkling of the contents of Mr. Bent’s petition, and perhaps, even, of the fact that there was a petition in existence. And this knowledge certainly was enough to startle any governor, if only for the reason that circulation of such a document contravened the regulations and practice of the convict Colony, in which there was no charter of liberty.

    That the petition was addressed to Parliament meant nothing to the Governor; his contacts with that excellent but arbitrary institution so far had been slight. The clear assurance that the paper was being clandestinely circulated was enough to provoke his official wrath, but knowledge of the catalogue of wrongdoing alleged against him raised his anger beyond bounds.

    The document has long since disappeared into oblivion; but Mr Bent assuredly had not drafted a "niminy-piminy" plea.

    The outraged victim of his libellous aspersions lost no time in acting. "All those persons I knew had signed it, I struck off the list of names for whom lands had previously been designed."

    There were plenty of victims. There was Mr George Williams, who had travelled out on the Broxbornebury with Mr Jeffrey Bent – a mysterious individual who had left the position of Government Printer at the Cape of Good Hope, and was not employed as a compositor in the office of the Gazette; there was Mr Horsley, another boon companion en voyage of Mr Bent.

    There was a publican named Rose, who had been "very nearly executed". He not merely lost any chance of further land grants and favours. Dr D’Arcy Wentworth, whose signature as Sydney magistrate was necessary, refused to sign his application for a renewal of his liquor license, and earnestly urged the Governor to refuse it. He felt that, since the Governor had given both Mr Rose and his wife’s father free pardons and considerable land grants, the miscreant’s conduct showed "such a degree of baseness and ingratitude that I could not sign his petition".

    And Mr Rose was in the same case with Mr Thompson, "a respectable man", who afterwards admitted that he had been duped – he was the father of one of the first poets born on the Australian continent. Mr Armytage, "a person of little consideration …the first person who ever received a free pardon from the Governor", also was blasted at one stroke out of the liquor business.

    The embarrassments of the petition’s circulators accumulated when it appeared that there was a veritable rush of honest gentlemen – holders, most of them, of valuable spirit licences – such as Mr Samuel Terry, all eager to swear that they never had signed any petition. One or two offered rewards for the discovery of the scoundrel who had compromised them by forgery of their stainless signatures.

    Mr Moore, the solicitor, was now, in particular, in a difficult position; for when the Governor resolved that his and his brother’s names should be struck off the land-grant list, Mr Moore unwisely attempted to save his brother’s portion by confessing that he himself had forged the latter’s name during his absence. Uttering a fresh cry of rage, Macquarie, on a sick bed, "suffering from a severe and alarming complaint of my bowels", sent for his secretary, and scarified the luckless man anew.

    References:

    75. Digge Appendix, Box l I: Questions to Governor Macquarie, Answer No. 3a-

    76. Bigge Appendix, Box 2, pp. 582-4: D. Wentworth's Evidence.

    77-1bid., pp. 583-4-

    78- Ibid., Box 5, pp. arSx-a: Best's Evidence; Box a, p. 586: Wentwoth's Evidence.

    79. lbid.

    80. HRA, I. 9, pP. 334-5.

    81. 1bid., p. 33o: to Bathurst, 3 April 1817; Journals, A773, p. 44, I September IBx6.

    82 HlkA, I. 9, P- 343: to Bathurst, 4 April I817; Journals, A773, p. 52, 6 October 1816.

    He took the oaths of office H October x816 and his commission was read in the Market Place

     

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