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The following are land grants from indexes at the Land Titles Office.

 I don’t have copies of the grants.  I’m assuming these are all for OUR Thomas Rose, I didn’t include the ones at Liberty Plains and MacDonald River.  I haven’t written out all the land purchases Thomas made.  There are lots of those.

Grant Index 1792-1826

Rose, Thomas

Where             acres               Serial No.                    Page

Evan                100                  4                                  233

Evan                100                  5                                  56

Airds                1300                12                                256

Appin              300                  18                                15

Grants Index 1827-1830

Name                          acres               Where                         Register No.    Page

Rose, James H             644                  Yass                             S.27                 368

Rose, Thomas              660                  Near Yass Plains          S.27                 530

Rose, Thomas              60                    Bulli                             22                    460

Rose, Thomas & Sarah160                  Mundoonen                 24                    473

Rose, Jas. H.                644                  Yass                             20                    368

Rose, Jas. H.                650                  Yass                             20                    370

Rose, Thomas              660                  Near Yass Plains          20                    530

Rose, J.H.                    918                  Yass                             25                    788

Grants Index 1830-1839

Name                          acres               Where                         Register No.    Page

Rose, Sarah (wife of Thos)

                                    160                  King                             35                    265

Rose, Thomas              19¾p.              Sydney                        39                    189

Rose, Thomas              16½p.              Sydney                        39                    80

Rose, Thomas              16½p.              Sydney                        39                    80

Rose, Thomas              40a                  Cook                            43                    33

Rose, Thomas              -2r.26p.            Sydney                        47                    156

Rose, Thomas              60a                  Cumberland                 33                    191

Rose, Thomas              660a                Murray                         31                    142

Rose, Thomas & Sarah160a                King                             35                    265

Rose, James Hannibal  644a                Murray                         31                    67

Rose, James Hannibal  832a                Murray                         68                    160

Rose, James Hannibal  986a                Murray                         65                    78

Rose, James Hannibal  918a                Murray                         32                    82

Rose, James Hannibal  650a                Murray                         31                    66

Index to Town Grants & Purchases 1827-1831

                                    Allot.               Sec.                              No.                  Page

Rose, Thomas  16½p.  13                    35        Sydney            3                      225

Rose, Thomas 19¾p.   8                      33        Sydney            4                      61

Rose, Thomas 2r.26p.  3                      39        Sydney            36                    207

There are numerous sales of this land while Thomas was alive but mostly after he died.  I’ve enclosed copies of Conveyances of Book 82 No. 455, Book 83 No. 44, Book 83 No. 496 from the Land Titles Office.  These seem to be where we defaulted on the mortgages of Mount Gilead.                          -Dianne Giles 1999






Copy of pages from

Lachlan Macquarie, His Life, Adventures and Times

by M.E. Ellis (relate to the seditious incident.  Page 345 mentions ‘Rose’,p. 571 is the reference for the source.)



It was about this time that Macquarie first was given some inkling of the contents of Mr. Bent’s petition, and perhaps, even, of the fact that there was a petition in existence.  And this knowledge certainly was enough to startle any governor, if only for the reason that circulation of such a document contravened the regulations and practice of the convict Colony, in which there was no charter of liberty.


That the petition was addressed to Parliament meant nothing to the Governor;  his contacts with that excellent but arbitrary institution so far had been slight.  The clear assurance that the paper was being clandestinely circulated was enough to provoke his official wrath, but knowledge of the catalogue of wrongdoing alleged against him raised his anger beyond bounds.


The document has long since disappeared into oblivion;  but Mr Bent assuredly had not drafted a “niminy-piminy” plea.


The outraged victim of his libellous aspersions lost no time in acting.  “All those persons I knew had signed it, I struck off the list of names for whom lands had previously been designed.”


There were plenty of victims.  There was Mr George Williams, who had travelled out on the Broxbornebury with Mr Jeffrey Bent – a mysterious individual who had left the position of Government Printer at the Cape of Good Hope, and was not employed as a compositor in the office of the Gazette;  there was Mr Horsley, another boon companion en voyage of Mr Bent.


There was a publican named Rose, who had been “very nearly executed”.  He not merely lost any chance of further land grants and favours.  Dr D’Arcy Wentworth, whose signature as Sydney magistrate was necessary, refused to sign his application for a renewal of his liquor license, and earnestly urged the Governor to refuse it.  He felt that, since the Governor had given both Mr Rose and his wife’s father free pardons and considerable land grants, the miscreant’s conduct showed “such a degree of baseness and ingratitude that I could not sign his petition”.


And Mr Rose was in the same case with Mr Thompson, “a respectable man”, who afterwards admitted that he had been duped – he was the father of one of the first poets born on the Australian continent.  Mr Armytage, “a person of little consideration …the first person who ever received a free pardon from the Governor”, also was blasted at one stroke out of the liquor business.


The embarrassments of the petition’s circulators accumulated when it appeared that there was a veritable rush of honest gentlemen – holders, most of them, of valuable spirit licences – such as Mr Samuel Terry, all eager to swear that they never had signed any petition.  One or two offered rewards for the discovery of the scoundrel who had compromised them by forgery of their stainless signatures.


Mr Moore, the solicitor, was now, in particular, in a difficult position;  for when the Governor resolved that his and his brother’s names should be struck off the land-grant list, Mr Moore unwisely attempted to save his brother’s portion by confessing that he himself had forged the latter’s name during his absence.  Uttering a fresh cry of rage, Macquarie, on a sick bed, “suffering from a severe and alarming complaint of my bowels”, sent for his secretary, and scarified the luckless man anew.



75. Digge Appendix, Box l I: Questions to Governor Macquarie, Answer No. 3a-

76. Bigge Appendix, Box 2, pp. 582-4: D. Wentworth's Evidence.

77-1bid., pp. 583-4-

78- Ibid., Box 5, pp. arSx-a: Best's Evidence; Box a, p. 586: Wentwoth's Evidence.

79. lbid.

80. HRA, I. 9, pP. 334-5.

81. 1bid., p. 33o: to Bathurst, 3 April 1817; Journals, A773, p. 44, I September IBx6.

82 HlkA, I. 9, P- 343: to Bathurst, 4 April I817; Journals, A773, p. 52, 6 October 1816.

He took the oaths of office H October x816 and his commission was read in the Market Place.



List of Names of Free Persons who had Lands located for them in the Years 1813 and 1814 – but which promised Lands are now Cancelled on Account of their Recent Seditious Conduct. - ???

                                             In 1813

1.      Samuel Terry               on Evan District                      300 Acres

2.      Henry Baldwin           Kurry Iony                              80 Do

3.      Gustavus Lowe           South Creek                            100 Do

*4.    Charles Thompson      Evan District                           50 Do

*5.    Thomas Rose               Do     Do                                 40 Do


In case the Names above Specified Marked * have not yet received the Grants of the Lands located for them previous to the Year 1814 – they are not to receive them – And the same are hereby Revoked and Cancelled.

                                                                     “Signed” To all

Government House  Sydney 25th Sept. 1816 True Copy  “Signed”

                                                            M.F. Campbell Esq.?

Dianne Giles





(Despatch No. 67, per ship Bachelor;  acknowledged by Lord Glenelg,

   28th March, 1836)

                                       Government House, 23 July, 1835

My Lord,

In conformity with the Regulation by which I am required to forward communications addressed by the Inhabitants of this Colony to J.M.’s Government, I have the honor to forward a Memorial from Mr Thos. Rose.

He prays for a free grant of Land in acknowledgement of the service he has rendered the Colony by constructing on his farm an embankment for retaining water, which has been useful in supplying his neighbours, and is likely to be advantageous as an example to other Settlers.

I have seen the structure to which his Memorial refers, and must bear testimony to its useful character, though without urging the propriety of rewarding the undertaking in the matter solicited.

                                                   I have, &c.,

                                                   RICHARD BOURKE


*Marginal note.-Convicts:  Robert Booth, James Carroll, Henry Cullen, Robert James.




To His Majesty’s Principal Secretary of State for the Colonial Department,


That it is well known to all persons, conversant with His Majesty’s possessions in Australasia, that the great natural defect in the Colony of New South Wales is its want of water owing to the irregularity of its rains and the fewness of its rivers;  a defect which has at all times, from the foundation of the Settlement, been more or less injurious to its interests, but which, during the drought that broke up in the Year 1829, involved all classes of the community, more especially the agriculturists and Graziers, in the severest distresses.

That the District of Appin, about 40 Miles to the Southward of Sydney, is peculiarly subject to this afflictive privation, being situated on a range of hills from 3 to 7 Miles in width between Tuggerah Creek and a feeble branch of the River Nepean, both of which in that part of the Country form precipitous and almost inaccessible ravines.

That the District Township (Campbell Town) founded by Governor Macquarie about 17 Years ago, depending entirely upon the Rain for its supply of water, has frequently been reduced to the most painful extremity of suffering, the inhabitants having had in seasons of drought, to carry their supplies from places no less than 4 or 5 miles distant from the Township.

That both in the Township and in the country attempts were made to remedy this sore evil by sinking of Wells, which however, proved next to useless, for in seasons of drought, when they were most required, they were dry, and the water they retain after falls of Rain was invariably brackish.

That Your Memorialist’s estate (named Mound Gilead) being on a more elevated and precipitous part of the range, received no benefit even from the Rains, farther than the moistening of its surface as the waters rushed at once into a distant part of the Nepean:  and, although Your Memorialist sank a deep and expensive well and formed other excavations for retaining the Rain, his efforts were abortive, the water being always brackish.

That, about 12 Years ago, Your Memorialists’s live-stock and farming establishment had become so extensive that his sufferings from want of water became most serious;  and he was constantly led to revolve in his own mind every conceivable expedient for obtaining adequate and permanent supplies.  The only artificial resources which he had every heard or read sinking for springs, intercepting running streams or excavating Tanks or Wells for the retention of Rain water were out of the question, for neither Springs or Streams were to be found and the inefficacy of Wells and tanks has been shown above.

That, after long and anxious consideration, it occurred to Your Memorialist that, by means of enbankment, it might be possible to collect the Rain water upon the natural surface of the ground in so great a body as to withstand both evaporation and absorption:  and, in the Year 1824, he made an experiment of the  kind upon a small scale, and with such success that he at once resolved upon the commencement of another, but upon a scale so bold and efficient as not only to secure to his own establishment a plenteous and niver-failing supply of excellent, but moreover to furnish an example to the Colony at large.

That Your Memorialist accordingly selected the spot, which appeared most favourable to his undertaking, being a hollow at the foot of three gently sloping hills, the waters from which, in times of Rain, rushed onward to a deep Ravine and thense lost themselves in the River Nepean.  His plans*, as nearly as it can be described in words was as follows.  The foundation of the embankment was composed of two parallel layers of stone, the front or inner one being a yard in width, and the Stones chiseled square and smooth;  the other was of rough stone but worked in good mortar.  Between these layers was left an open spece of 18 Inches in width, which was afterwards filled up with moistened earth or puddle.  At the elevation of 9 or 10 feet, the rear wall was discontinued, but the front one advanced to the height of 17 feet from the deepest part of the ground.  These walls were supported at the Rear by an embankment of dry earth, rammed hard at every layer of 6 inches, and flanked by an outer walls of rough stone.  The extreme length of the inner walls is 104 yards, and its line slightly curved, approaching in form to the segment of a circle.  At either extremity of the embankment is a sluice for carrying off any surplus of water;  and if the weather be carefully observed, the reservoir can be so effectually regulated by these Sluices as to allow the water, with perfect safety, to rise within an inch of the margin.  The surface of the lake or reservoir, when full, measures 252 yards in length on one side and 214 yards on the other, and 80 yards in extreme width, presenting the shape of an irregular traingle.  It has now existed for upwards of 10 Years, and throughout the destructive and unexampled drought above alluded to, was never reduced more than 18 inches below its highest level;  thus at once affording an inexhaustible supply of the purest water, and adding a picturesque ornament to the landscape.

That the only objection raised by the inhabitants to this undertaking, and which left imitation out of the power of the greater portion of them, being its expensiveness and Your Memorialist, earnestly desirous that its advantages should be available to all classes, formed another on a smaller scale and without the use of Stone, the embankment being constructed entirely of earth;  and he has had the satisfaction of finding that, during the period of 6 years, this humble reservoir has never been exhausted, and being nearer the public road than the larger one, has afforded never-failing supplies to his poorer neighbours for many miles around, and at the same time, served the purpose of a commodious bridge.

That, in the Year 1833, His Excellency Governor Bourke was pleased to honour Your Memorialist with a visit to his estate, when His Excellency was so well satisfied with the results of Your Memorialists’s plan, that His Excellency lost no time in giving to the inhabitants of Campbell Town a plot of ground for the like purpose, and a reservoir was forthwith constructed thereon by public subscription;  and, although the workmanship, performed by contract, was comparatively unskilful and slovenly, it was afforded complete relief from those sufferings to which as was before mentioned, the Township was formerly so often subjected.

That the late Church and School Corporation having ascertained the usefulmess of Your Memorialists’s undertaking, applied to him for information on the subject, and constructed a reservoir, upon his model, on the Orphan Scghool farm at Cabramatta; and Your Memorialist understands that it has there also fully realised its important purpose.

*Note 15.

That many of the Settlers and respectable inhabitants, whose estates were destitute of water, have been led by Your Memorialist’s example to avail themselves of this simple and effectual method of husbanding the waters of heaven.

That Your Memorialist has thus succeeded, after years of anxious contrivance and laborious exertion and a considerable expenditure of money, in demonstrating the possibility of securing an ample supply of pure water through all seasons, in any part of the country where the surface at all undulates, and at an expense which every industrious Settler may easily afford.

That Your Memorialist is convinced, both by experience and observation, that this plan for securing water might be successfully adopted by the Government in supplying Townships requiring artificial resources, and would be infinitely less expensive, if not far more effectual than acqueducts of Canals.  And he begs permission to say, without the slightest intention to reflect upon any of the local authorities, that, had his principle been applied to the Town of Sydney, a body of water might, within the space of a Year or two and at an insignificant expense, have been accumulated, abundantly sufficient not only for the consumption of the inhabitants but for the irrigation of the Town.

That Your Memorialist would respectfully suggest that his plan might be adopted with great advantage in the construction of bridges on the high roads, inasmuch as the ambankments would answer every purpose of bridges, and be more durable and less expensive than most of those now in  use in this Colony;  while the bodies of water, which would be thus accumulated, would be of the most essential service to the flocks and herds and other live stock travelling to and fro.

That, although Your Memorialist was in the first instance urged to this expedient by the pressure of his own individual necessities, and although his subsequent endeavours to promote its general adoption have been dictated by a disinterested concern for the welfare of his fellow Colonists, he now ventures, at the suggestion of many intelligent persons, to bring his undertaking under the condescending notice of His Majesty’s Government, with the humble hope that it may be deemed worthy of public recognition, as suggesting a valuable resource of general applicability;  and that he may be honoured with some token that his exertions are not held undeserving of official commendation.

Wherefore Your Memorialist humbly prays that you, Right Honourable Sir, will be pleased to take the premises into your favourable consideration;  and, if His Majesty’s liberal and enlighted Government shall be of opinion that he has rendered a useful service to his country, that they will be pleased to authorize the local Administration to confer upon Your Memorialist a Grant of Land, or such other mark of approbation as to His Majesty’s Government may seem meet.

And Your Memorialist, as in duty bound will every pray, etc., etc.,

                                                                           THOMAS ROSE

Appin, New South Wales, 15th January, 1835




   (Despatch No. 135, per ship Moffatt.)

                                                   Downing Street, 28 March, 1836


I have received your Despatch No. 67 of the 23rd of July last, enclosing a Memorial from Mr Thomas Rose praying for “a Grant of Land or such other mark of approbation as to His Majesty’s Government may seem meet,” in acknowledgement of the service which he has rendered to the Colony by constructing on his Farm an Embankment or reservoir for the supply of Water.

It is impossible for me to form a judgment, except from your report, as to the actual extent of the benefit which Mr Rose may have conferred on his fellow Colonists;  and, as I perceive that you do not consider yourself called upon to urge the propriety of rewarding the undertaking in the manner solicited, I can only arrive at the conclusion that Mr Rose’s claim is not such as to justify a complience with his application. 

                                                                                       I have, &c.







20 August 1811, No. 483 in Old Register No. 5, NSW Land Titles Office.

August 24 – 1811(39) OLD REGISTER No. 5


Power of Attorney dated 20th August 1811 – From Mrs Ann Bartlet of Sydney to Mr Thomas Rose of Sydney appointing him her true and lawful attorny, generally to act in her behalf and c  Signed Ann Bartlett her X – Witnesses Samuel Foster & Richard Verrier.





Lease being date 20th August 1811 – from Mr John Burgels? Of Sydney unto Mr Thomas Rose of same place for 28 years – in Consideration of 5 Shillings, acknowledging the Receipt thereof, the said Burgels? Doth demise, lease let and to farm let, unto the said Rose, all that Farm and Premises, known by the Name of Black-heath, situated in the District of Evan, containing 80 acres of Land more or less, the said Farm to be held by the said Rose for the above period, on paying the yearly Rent of £30 Sterling by 4 equal quarterly payments as in the Lease recited – Signed John Burgel? And Thomas Rose, Witness Richard Hughes and Richard Verrier.






Lease dated 20 August 1811 – from Obediah Ikin to Thomas Rose of Sydney in Consideration of 5 Shillings the said Ikin doth demise Lease & c to the said Rose all that Farms and Premises known by the name of Derrintend situated in the District of Evan, containing 60 acres of Land, more or less, to hold the same for the term of 21 years, yielding and paying the yearly Rent of £25 Sterling by instalments as in Lease.  ?. Signed Obediah Ikin and Thomas Rose, Witnesses Richard Hughes and Richard Verrier.

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