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TALBOT

1. HUGH-

Hugh and Gilbert, Comte d'Eu appear on a charter to Trinité du Mont, Rouen, Normandy in 1035. The Talebots may be a junior line of the Comtes d'Eu in Normandy as their coats of arms are similar.

Issue-

  • ?2I. WILLIAM-

    Ref:

    The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.- J. Gardner Bartlett, Boston, 1917- pp. 1-2


    2I.?WILLIAM (HUGH 1)

    "Le Sire Talebot" is listed in the Battle Abbey Roll and he may refer to William Talebot who was a witness to the foundation charter in 1057 of the Abbey of Treport, near Eu, Normandy, by Robert, Comte d'Eu.

    Issue-

  • 3I. RICHARD- b.c.1050 Normandy, m. ____ de GOURNAY
  • II. Geoffrey- held lands in Essex in Domesday

    Ref:

    The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.- J. Gardner Bartlett, Boston, 1917- pp. 1-2


    3I. RICHARD (HUGH 1, WILLIAM 2)

    b.c.1050 Normandy
    m. ____ de GOURNAY- d. of Hugh de Gournay and Basilia Flaitel

    Richard is listed in the Domesday Book in 1085 as holding the manor of Battlesden, Bedford, containing eight carucates of land, and eight of meadow, as undertenant of Walter Giffard, Earl of Buckingham. A carucate was the amount of land that could be cultivated by a team of four oxen, or about 90 acres, so Richard's grant amounted to about 1,500 acres of land.

    Issue-

  • 4I. GEOFFREY- b.c.1080, m. AGNES _____
  • II. Hugh- m. Beatrix de Mandeville (m.2. William de Say) Hugh has erroneously been listed as the ancestor of the Bashall family. This error goes back to a pedigree compiled in the 1660's by Christopher Townley.

    Ref:

    Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire- Joseph Foster, London, 1874- Vol. II, "Talbot of Bashall"
    The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.- J. Gardner Bartlett, Boston, 1917- pp.2-3


    4I. GEOFFREY (HUGH 1, WILLIAM 2, RICHARD 3)

    b.c.1080
    m. AGNES _____

    Geoffrey was a staunch supporter of Queen Matilda in her claim to the throne which was usurped by her cousin Stephen upon King Henry's death in 1135. King Stephen defeated her forces in Hereford in 1139 which were commanded by Geoffrey Talebot. The Empress was driven back to Normandy in 1148 and and compromise was reached where her son, Henry Plantagenet, would succeed to the throne upon Stephen's death (which happened in 1154).

    Geoffrey gave the lordship of Little Wrotham to the monks of Rochester.

    Issue-

  • I. Geoffrey-
  • 5II. WILLIAM- b.c.1110, d. after 1176

    Ref:

    Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire- Joseph Foster, London, 1874- Vol. II, "Talbot of Bashall"
    The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.- J. Gardner Bartlett, Boston, 1917- pp. 3-4


    5I. WILLIAM (HUGH 1, WILLIAM 2, RICHARD 3, GEOFFREY 4)

    b.c.1110
    d. after 1176

    William fought with his father and their cousin Gilbert de Lacy on the side of Queen Matilda during the civil war.

    William was enfeoffed by his cousin Roger de Mowbray in two knight's fees of the manor of Gainsborough, Lincolnshire which he held in 1167. In 1174 Roger's estates were confiscated by King Henry II due to his participation in the revolt under Prince Henry. Roger was eventually pardoned, however, the manor of Gainsborough was granted by the King to Henry de Lacy who also had William Talebot as undertenant. In 1176 William again appears as lord of Gainsborough and paid a fine of 2 marks to the King for the priviledge of hunting in the Royal Forest of Knaresborough.

    Issue-

  • 6I. WILLIAM- b.c.1140, d. probably on Crusade c. 1192

    Ref:

    The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.- J. Gardner Bartlett, Boston, 1917- p. 4


    6I. WILLIAM (HUGH 1, WILLIAM 2, RICHARD 3, GEOFFREY 4, WILLIAM 5)

    b.c.1140
    d. probably on Crusade c. 1192

    William succeeded his father as Lord of Gainsborough at the end of the reign of King Henry II. In 1186 he held land in Yorkshire of William de Warren, Earl of Surrey. Sir William participated in the Third Crusade against the Saracens with Richard the Lionhearted from 1190 to 1192 and was at the siege of Acre and the Battle of Ascalon. Prior to leaving on the Crusade had made a grant to the Gainsborough church for his soul and the souls of his father William Talebot and his grandfather Geoffrey Talebot. William probably died on the Crusade as his son Roger was Lord of Gainsborough in 1194.

    Issue-

  • I. Roger- b.c.1165, d.s.p.
  • 7II. ROBERT- b.c.1170, m. ERMINTRUDE de FERRERS (m.2. Henry FitzGerald, 3. Sir William Stafford of Bromshall, Staffordshire)
  • III. Sylvester- of Thorpe, Yorkshire
  • IV. Simon- m. Ermengarde _____

    Ref:

    Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire- Joseph Foster, London, 1874- Vol. II, "Talbot of Bashall"
    The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.- J. Gardner Bartlett, Boston, 1917- p. 5


    7II. ROBERT (HUGH 1, WILLIAM 2, RICHARD 3, GEOFFREY 4, WILLIAM 5, WILLIAM 6)

    b.c.1170
    m. ERMINTRUDE de FERRERS (m.2. Henry FitzGerald, 3. Sir William Stafford of Bromshall, Staffordshire)- d. of Robert de Ferrers of Egginton, Derby and Joan de Bocland.

    Robert succeeded his brother Roger as the Lord of Gainsborough before 1207. In 1215 he was granted the lands of Hugh Pincerni in Arnethorpe and Skaleberg in Craven, Yorkshire, by King John. By 1216 he had been granted the lands of Brackenburg, Craven, by Hugh de Lacy, Earl of Ulster. Robert was in Sir Hugh's service in Ireland and was granted lands there as well. However, in 1225 Robert's lands in Ulster were confiscated by King Henry III and given to the Bishop of Durham as Robert had served under Sir Hugh in a rebellion against the King. Robert paid a fine of £100 and he was pardoned and his lands returned.

    By his marriage to Ermintrude he received the manor of Eggington, Derby.

    Issue-

  • I. William- b.c.1195, m. Alice _____
  • II. John- d.s.p. 1251
  • III. Gerard- m.1. Euphemia _____, 2. Sybil _____, d.c.1258
  • 8IV. ROBERT- b.c.1205, m. MATILDA ______ (m.2. c.1236 Robert de Bereville), d. before 1236

    Ref:

    Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire- Joseph Foster, London, 1874- Vol. II, "Talbot of Bashall"
    The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.- J. Gardner Bartlett, Boston, 1917- pp. 5-7


    8IV. ROBERT (HUGH 1, WILLIAM 2, RICHARD 3, GEOFFREY 4, WILLIAM 5, WILLIAM 6, ROBERT 7)

    b.c.1205
    m. MATILDA ______ (m.2. c.1236 Robert de Bereville)
    d. before 1236

    Robert settled in Yorkshire and was granted the lands of Huddersfield by John de Lacy, Constable of Chester and Earl of Lincoln. Robert also held two parts of one knight's fee in Wulrickby, Lincolnshire which had been given to him by his father.

    Issue-

  • 9I. THOMAS- b.c.1230, m. MARTHA ______, d.c.1273
  • II. Robert-

    Ref:

    Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire- Joseph Foster, London, 1874- Vol. II, "Talbot of Bashall"
    The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.- J. Gardner Bartlett, Boston, 1917- pp. 7-8


    9I. THOMAS (HUGH 1, WILLIAM 2, RICHARD 3, GEOFFREY 4, WILLIAM 5, WILLIAM 6, ROBERT 7, ROBERT 8)

    b.c.1230
    m. MARTHA ______
    d.c.1273

    The manor of Bashall in Mitton parish, was granted by Edmund de Lacy, 6th Lord of Bowland, to Thomas Talbot in 1253 for a yearly rent of £8/10/7 to be paid on the Feast of St. Giles (Sept 1st). It remained in the Talbot family until the early seventeenth century. The Talbot Arms at Chipping commemorates the family's close association with the town. Also in 1253 he was granted the lands in Huddersfield which his parents had held of de Lacy. The grant to Bashall was confirmed by the king and it became the main seat of the Talbot family.

    Thomas made an unsuccessful attempt at recovering the manor of Gainsborough in 1260 claiming his right to the property through his father Robert Talebot, youngest son of Robert Talebot, Lord of Gainsborough in the reign of King John.

    Thomas was appointed Governor of Clitheroe Castle by Edmund de Lacy, Earl of Lincoln, in the reign of King Henry III.

    Issue-

  • 10I. EDMUND- b.c.1260, m.c.1304 JOANNE HOLLAND (b.c.1285, m.2. c.1312 Sir Hugh Dutton (d. 1326), 3. c.1328 Sir John Radcliffe of Ordsall), d.c.1311
  • II. Robert-
  • III. Thomas-
  • IV. Giles-

    Ref:

    Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire- Joseph Foster, London, 1874- Vol. II, "Talbot of Bashall"
    The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.- J. Gardner Bartlett, Boston, 1917- p. 8


    10I. EDMUND (HUGH 1, WILLIAM 2, RICHARD 3, GEOFFREY 4, WILLIAM 5, WILLIAM 6, ROBERT 7, ROBERT 8, THOMAS 9)

    b.c.1260
    m.c.1304 JOANNE HOLLAND (b.c.1285, m.2. c.1312 Sir Hugh Dutton (d. 1326), 3. c.1328 Sir John Radcliffe of Ordsall)- d. of Sir Robert Holland of Denton
    d.c.1311

    Edmund served in the Scottish Wars in 1303 and on 25 July 1304 he was granted Bashall and Hapton. In 1306 he was knighted by bathing and other ceremonies along with Prince Edward. On 22 Oct. 1309 he was again in the king's service against the Scots.

    Sir Edmund witnessed a deed 19 July 1310, however, he died soon afterwards as his widow Joanne held two carucates of land in Rishton, Lanc. in 1311.

    Issue-

  • I. John- b.c.1305, d.s.p. c.1328
  • 11II. THOMAS- b.c.1307, m.c.1328 ELIZABETH BELLAIR (d. after 1366), d. before 1366

    Ref:

    Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire- Joseph Foster, London, 1874- Vol. II, "Talbot of Bashall"
    The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.- J. Gardner Bartlett, Boston, 1917- p. 9


    11II. THOMAS (HUGH 1, WILLIAM 2, RICHARD 3, GEOFFREY 4, WILLIAM 5, WILLIAM 6, ROBERT 7, ROBERT 8, THOMAS 9, EDMUND 10)

    b.c.1307
    m.c.1328 ELIZABETH BELLAIR (d. after 1366)- d. of James Bellair of Leicestershire
    d. before 1366

    Thomas inherited the family estates after the death of his older brother c.1328. On 3 Feb. 1328/9 he was granted lands in Mitton by John de Brockholes.(1)

    Thomas was knighted by 1330 and was fighting in the Scottish Wars in 1338.(2) On 18 Feb. 1347/8 Sir Thomas was appointed to a commission of Oyer and Terminer to investigate the damage done to the Queen's chase of Slaidburn and Bowland.(3) In 1356 Thomas granted annuities to his two younger sons Thomas and John and he had died by 1366 when Elizabeth was mentioned as his widow.(4)

    Issue-

  • 12I. EDMUND- b.c.1329, m. MARGERY BYRON (m.1. Sir Henry Fenwick of Fenwick, Northumberland, 3. Sir John de Assheton), d. 1373
  • II. Thomas- living in 1356
  • III. John- living in 1356
  • IV. Richard- living in 1386
  • V. Mary- m. Richard Tempest (d. before 1389), d. after 1389
  • VI. Elizabeth-

    Ref:

    (1) The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.- J. Gardner Bartlett, Boston, 1917- p. 10
    (2) Rotuli Scotiae- 12 Edw. III, fol. 19
    (3) Patent Rolls- 21 Edward III, pt. 1, fol. 31d
    (4) "An History of the Original Parish of Whalley and Honor of Clitheroe"- Thomas Dunham Whitaker, Vicar of Whalley, Routledge & Sons, Manchester, 1872- Vol. I, p. 500; Vol. II, p. 501

    Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire- Joseph Foster, London, 1874- Vol. II, "Talbot of Bashall"


    12I. EDMUND (HUGH 1, WILLIAM 2, RICHARD 3, GEOFFREY 4, WILLIAM 5, WILLIAM 6, ROBERT 7, ROBERT 8, THOMAS 9, EDMUND 10, THOMAS 11)

    b.c.1329
    m. MARGERY BYRON (m.1. Sir Henry Fenwick of Fenwick, Northumberland, 3. Sir John de Assheton)- d. Sir John Byron of Clayton, Lanc.
    d. 1373

    Edmund served in the French wars in 1348 and was knighted at the surrender of Calais in that year. He later served under the "Black Prince" in the French wars and fought in the Battle of Navaretta in 1367.

    In 1354 Robert de Rishton sued Edmund Talbot, son of Thomas Talbot, concerning Rishton Manor in Lancashire.(1)

    Issue-

  • 13I. THOMAS- b.c.1353, m. ELIZABETH BELLARS, d.c.1413
  • II. Richard- b.c.1355, m. Anabella Rigmaden. Ancestor of the Talbots of Slaidburn.
  • III. William- b.c.1360, ancestor of the Talbots of Salesbury, Carr and Blackburn, Lanc.
  • IV. Henry- living in 1400
  • V. Gerard- living in 1396
  • VI. Edmund- living in 1398
  • VII. Matilda- m. Peter de Riggenhall

    Ref:

    (1) Record Society of Lancashire and Cheshire- Vol. VIII, p. 364

    Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire- Joseph Foster, London, 1874- Vol. II, "Talbot of Bashall"
    The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.- J. Gardner Bartlett, Boston, 1917- pp. 10-11


    13I. THOMAS (HUGH 1, WILLIAM 2, RICHARD 3, GEOFFREY 4, WILLIAM 5, WILLIAM 6, ROBERT 7, ROBERT 8, THOMAS 9, EDMUND 10, THOMAS 11, EDMUND 12)

    m. ELIZABETH BELLARS- d. of James Bellars and Letitia Preston of Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire
    d.c.1413

    Thomas was under age and a ward of Sir Thomas Banister, K.G. in 1373. He was of age and a knight by 1380/1, and was a captain in the English camp at Berwick in 1387 and then in Guysnes, Picardie two years later. Richard II granted Sir Thomas an annuity in 1393/4 and on 12 July 1407 he was sent with Thomas, Earl of Lancaster to Ireland.

    Sir Thomas was a leader of the rebellion in Cheshire in 1393 in protest of the peace with France. He seemed to stay in favor with King Richard and then King Henry IV, however, he was one of Oldcastle's lieutenants in the Lollard uprising in 1414 and then seems to disappear and his grandson, Edmund, succeeded to the estates. King Henry V had all the Lollards executed so I suspect that Sir Thomas was rounded up and summarily beheaded.(1)

    Issue-

  • I. Henry-
  • II. Richard- d. before 3 Henry IV
  • 14III. THOMAS- m. AGNES CATTERERALL, d.v.p. before 1407

    Ref:

    (1) The Northern Rebellions in the Later Years of Richard II- J.G. Bellamy, in "The Bulletin of the John Rylands Library"- Vol. 47, p. 154 (1965)

    Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire- Joseph Foster, London, 1874- Vol. II, "Talbot of Bashall"


    14I. THOMAS (HUGH 1, WILLIAM 2, RICHARD 3, GEOFFREY 4, WILLIAM 5, WILLIAM 6, ROBERT 7, ROBERT 8, THOMAS 9, EDMUND 10, THOMAS 11, EDMUND 12, THOMAS 13)

    m. AGNES CATTERERALL- d. of Alan Catterall of Wigglesworth, Co. Craven and Isabella Halton of Haltoo, Craven
    d.v.p. before 1407

    Thomas was granted 40 marks for life by the king. He was captain of the camp at Montgomery, Wales and at Guysnes, Picardie for three years.

    Thomas had died by 1407 as Agnes took the veil in that year.

    In some genealogies (Whitaker) Elizabeth is placed as a child of Thomas' son Edmund, however, as John Stanhope was born c.1412 it makes more sense that she was the sister of Edmund and not his daughter.(1)

    In Shakespeare's "King Henry VI", Lord Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury is one of the main characters:

    "Is this the Talbot, so much fear'd abroad
    That with his name the mothers still their babes?"

    - Henry VI, part 1, Act 2, Scene 3

    Issue-

  • I. Edmund- m. Agnes Arden of Nether Darwine
  • II. John- of Holt
  • III. Thomas-
  • 15I. ELIZABETH- b. 1420, m. JOHN STANHOPE (b.1412, m.1. Catherine Molineux (m.1. Robert Ratcliffe, d.s.p.) d. 1473), d. 1451
  • V. Isabell- m. Sir Richard Asshetoe of Middleton

    Ref:

    (1) "An history of the original Parish of Whalley and Honor of Clitheroe"- Thomas Dunham Whitaker, Vicar of Whalley, Routledge & Sons, Manchester, 1872- Vol. II, pp. 497-500; see also Whitaker's "The History and Antiquities of the Deanery of Craven"

    Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire- Joseph Foster, London, 1874- Vol. II, "Talbot of Bashall"


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