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Kreller-Creller


From the lands of the Rhine to America



Also spelt - Creler ,Kruler, Cruller, Kroler, Keeller, Craller, Crellior, Crouler , Cullen ,Treller and possibly Crawler (perhaps more spellings to follow)


From what we have been able to gather, the Creller family ( perhaps spelt Kreller in the beginning) originated in the Palatine area of Europe, (what we know now to be Germany). There was an on going history of feudal fighting in this area becausee the separate states were forged into one united Germany (almost similar to what we find in Yugoslavia in the 1990's ). Strong feudal lords or Princes of small realms, (to a Canadian or American perhaps the area of a large modern farm) each with his own alliances, political, economic and religious were rebelling against greater forces of the mostly Prussian feudal Lords, as they did not want to give up any territorial privileges to join a larger ruling body . A situation very similar on the Canadian political scene (except for the violence) as each Provincial Prime Minister wants to keep his powers ( mostly taxing and spending powers) for himself rather that allowing himself and his province to join the Federal body for the benefit of the whole (CANADA)).

The17th century in southern Germany, as well as in all of Europe is a nightmare scene. Swedish, French Austrian English Spanish and Hungarian troops battled each other, as well as those Dutche speaking forces, on what is now German soil. The troops engaged in fighting were outnumbered five to one by the hordes of camp followers. This horde was made up of men, women and children,no army regulations controlled these followers who lived a parasitic existence.

Armies marched two days ahead of the camp followers who acted as beast of burden, lugging the cooking utensils, a little furniture and the children. They were a ragged, poor , dirty ,emaciated, sickly part of humanity. As an army advanced through a territory they helped themselves to whatever food and tools that they needed from the local farms. The camp followers lived off the soldiers leavings, and took what the soldiers might have over looked. After an area had been pillaged, famine plague, typhus and/or cholera was certain to follow.

In 1688 Louis the XIV, King of France ordered that the earth of the Rhine Valley be burned. The only castle to survive was the Marksburg. History tells us that the Elector Wilhelm stood on the walls of his castles at Mannheim and counted in one day, twenty three villages on fire.

That any church and court records, somehow managed to survive the ravages ia a miracle.

This disturbance or feudal conflict is part of what inspired the people to leave the Rhineland. In addition to which the rulers of the individual German states, burdened their subjects with unreasonable taxes and forced military service.

Of course there were also the " Golden Books " , written by various good doers, such as the Rev Kocherthal, a German Lutheran pastor. The books prepared on the most part from hearsay evidence, extolled the life in a new land, the Island of the Carolines. They told of a land without taxes, free transportation to get there, and that farming tools would be provided to till the rich land. It was propaganda at its best and behind the scheme was the government of England.

England was the protector of the Protestant cause in Europe. Queen Anne came to the throne in 1702, and the War with the Spanish Succession began in 1707. England attempted to secure religious rights and civil rights for Protestants on the Continent. Queen Anne�s consort was a Lutheran, who had brought many of his co-religionists to England. Under Queen Anne�s influence , the government of the time recruited and proposed to finance the Palatine emigration to America.

It was decided that the newly appointed governor to New York would sail in 1710 with 2,800 Palatines, they were to be transported in 11 ships . The trip down the Rhine took from 4 to 6 weeks. Boats didn't move on the Sabbath nor on holidays, there were 36 customs houses to pass and tolls to pay at each. At each toll, the cargo was inspected, at the major points every thing had to be unloaded, those who chose to follow this route were taxed in various forms and many arrived penniless at Rotterdam.

The Palatines, however flooded Rotterdam by the thousands in the spring of 1709. They filled inns, houses, they camped on beaches in reed shacks and in the open air without shelter. They weren't expected in these numbers and were not welcomed. Food and shelter hadn't been provided and there was no transportation to England. Finally ships that were transporting military troops to the Continent were used to transport the Palatines to England on their return trips. England itself was caught unawares. The English gouvernment had instigated the mass exodus, but had not prepared for the number of people who wanted to take advantage of the offer in the new lands. Once again the people were crushed together in barns, tents and on shipboard, awaiting what would be the hellish trip to New York.

Those of the Catholic faith who had left the Rhineland were given the opportunity to convert or to be sent back., many were simply sent back, of those Protestant who arrived some 3000 of then were sent to Ireland against their desire

The English government had rounded up the eleven boats in which to transport the Palatines. They were boats that had been declared unfit to transport cattle to the colonies, and of course the owners were delighted to have cargo. Each of the eleven boats had a German list master. Of the first 2,814 Palatines who set sail for New York 446 died on the trip, and 250 died upon landing, there were by family count 847 in number.

When they disembarked from the ships they found a life as bad or more so then the one from which they were fleeing. New York did not want them, the city council was angry that 2,500 or so disease ladened newcomers were on their door steps, so the Palatines were force together into tents set up on Hutten Island, off shore from New York.

Before the Palatines had left England for America they were read the terms under which they would live once they arrived in the Colony. They all agreed to the version read to them in their own Germanic language. They agreed to pay the cost of their settlement out of the profits that they would make from manufacturing tar for the British Navy. Once these costs had been paid, each would receive 40 acres of land in the area of New York called Schoharie.

The Gouvernment of England however had come up with another plan, in Henry Jones's " The Palatine Families of New York 1710 'Volume I' " there is a brief outline of this plan

On Sept. 29 1710, Governor Hunter entered into an agreement with Robert Livingston, Commissioner of Indian Affairs, to purchase a tract of 6,000 acres on the east side of the Hudson for the purpose of settling the Palatines there to manufacture naval stores. In October, many of the Germans began going up the river, clearing the ground and building huts on the Livingston Tract. Gradually, small distinct settlements appeared at East Camp called Hunterstown, Queens-bury, Annsbury and Haysbury : the villages on the west side of the Hudson were Elizabeth Town, George Town and New Town.

The settlements on the East side of the Hudson is now the town of Germantown . The camps on the west side is know today as West Camp . Rev Kocherthall established a congregation there and it continues today as the Lutheran Church.


Records have been provided information indicating that a Peter Kreller left an area near Dresden, travelling to Rotterdam where he embarked on his journey to the New World.

On June 17 1734 we find records of Johanne Peter Creller taking the oath of Allegiance to the British Crown, becoming a naturalized British subject in the colony of New York (Remec NY)

Records also show that Peter married Anna Maria Dorethea Wollenben (born in West Camp, New York 19 Nov. 1714) and brought up a family in or around Rhinebeck NY . It is from this family that a branch of the Creller is connected to the Macfie of Clarenceville Quebec.

The only Creller family records that have been found so far are records that show a Maria Catharina Creller born about 1692, in Daudenzell ( Dresden) ,marrying a Leonhardt Hans Erkenbrecht (b 1687). They had one child named Anna Maria Dorotea,( Peter appears as witness the baptism (in the new world)) . It is assumed that this Maria is Peter Creller's sister and she named her child after his wife, who may have been her best friend in America.

We have been fortunate enough to have been provided with some information on Anna's family line, her great grandfather apparently was a Pastor named Johann Paulis Wohleben of
Steinbocken, Westphalia . Johann Paulis arrived in America with two sons who were named , Johann Philipp and Vanentin. Johann Wollenben married Anna Margreth and had a daughter Anna Maria born May 12 1713 in West Camp, NY and Vanentin was married to Susanna. (There is one family name attached to the births of the children of these two couples, Caputzgin, so it could be assumed that the two women, or at least one of them may have carried this as their family name. It is noted that often two brothers of one family married the two sisters of the other family).

Unfortunately at this time (2001 to 2010)  we do not have very much information regarding the life and times of Peter Creller and his family as they lived their life in the 13 Colonies, we do know that they in the majority remained loyal to the British Crown, and the event of the American Revolution caused them difficulties. There appears to have been a split in the Creller family with one family moving north into Canada while the other remained in the northwestern part of New York State.

NOTE: The Library of  Congress ( USA) have very kindly made thier possession readable on line  : I have linked several volumes here that you might want to review if you want to fully understand the turbulent times that our Creller family lived in. There is however  no reference to Kreller or Creller ( or to any of the other spellings) but much mention of  " and other families "  . As we find many names of those who may have been neighbours,  I have assumed that there is a good chance that we were lumped in  with the " and others" . The facts remain the same, with the hardships on the wilderness, the conflict of the French - Indian wars of 1759, the conflict of the Rebellion of the 13  Colonies, and the presence of  terrible sicknesses, we can assume that our family member were not immune and have been lost to us. The burning of  towns and villages, including Churches and town meeting places  certainly brought about the loss of many  records that might  have provided us with much valued information.  We have managed to  accumulated enough information to make this skeleton  family portrait , even if some of the dates  cannot be  confirmed.   

Enjoy reading the following, and I  trust you will bave a better idea of what our family among others went through once they arrived here in the  new world.

- Book 1

- Book 2

- Book 3

- Book 4

- Book 5

- Book 6

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We find one Creller family with new residence in the upper part of the continent ( upper Vermont state as we know it today). Three Creller fought with the Loyalist forces at Bennington , they were Peter John and Phillip . Peter and phillip listed among those taken prisoner by the revolutionary forces. It is believed that John was killed during this encounter, however no records of his capture nor death have been found .

As the American Revolution began in earnest in 1774, some forty years after Peter Creller became a British subject, we are uncertain that we can assume that he himself or his wife Anna Maria Doretea was still living. If they were,they would be probably in their early 70's. No records have been found attesting to thier deaths, nor burials.

Many people did not survive to the promised three score and ten, and we cannot assume that Peter and his wife were any different. They had already progressed through many difficulties, wars in Europe, overseas travel, beginning again in a new land, a land of English where they were the foreigners.(
This is one area that remains to be researched in more detail and at this time there are several particulars working on these details ).

While the Creller name does not appear very often in any documentation regarding the history of the area where it has been assumed that they first settled we have found many other family names with whom the Creller have associated themsleves, either though marriage,or simple association.


John Peter Creller

abt 1700

Married

1734

West Camp

Colony of New York

Anna Maria Doretea Wolleben

Nov 19 1714-xxxx



While it is very difficult to locate records pertaining to the Creller family, the Wollenben family has been recorded at several places in the history of West Camp NY. By clicking here you will be able to see more of the information that has been accumulated. WOLLENBEN


Maria Magdalean Creller

1734-xxxx

Anna Margaret Creller

1736-xxxx

Susanna Creller

1740-xxxx

Pieter Creller

1742-1818

Anna Creller

1744-xxxx

Elisabetha Creller

1747-xxxx

Johannes Creller

1749-1777

Phillippus Creller

1752-1831

Rebecka Creller

1754-xxxx

Regina Creller
1756-1801


Maria Magdalena Creller

1734-xxxx

Married

                                                                                                       November 11 1752

West Camp

Colony of New York

Jacob Hoener
1732-xxxx

Maria Hoener
1754-xxxx

Margaretha Hoener
1756-xxxx

Catharina Hoener
1765-xxxx

Wihelm Hoener
1767-xxxx

Cornelius Hoener
1770-xxxx

Johannes Hoener
1775-xxxx

Maria 27 Mar 1754
Margaretha 25 Mar 1756
Catharia 27 Jan 1765
Whillem 24 Apr 1767
Cornelius 15 Mar 1770
Johannes 20 May 1775

For a more indepth history see the Hoener (Hayner) Family

For more on Jacob Hoener


There is a record of one Johannes Honsinger, a Palatine arriving on the SS Robert Ann 11 Sept 1733.
There is record of one Johannes Hutziger taking the Oath of Alligence, Dutchess Co NY 25 Apr 1743.

Anna Margaret Creller

1736-xxxx

Married

                                                                                                        West Camp

Colony of New York

Johannes Hunzinger

xxxx-xxxx

It would appear that from this union came one Petrus Honsinger ( Hunzinger), as Petrus married a Debora and had two children one Petrus born 23 06 1773 and one Johannes born 12 04 1779. Both children were baptized in 1779 and at that time thier mother Debora was listed as deceased. Johannes Hunzinger and his wife Margareth were the witness at the christening

There is a Hunzinger or Horsiner family that emigrated to the Alburgh Vermont area, close to where the Creller can be traced, it has not yet been confirmed that Anna Margararet Creller was of this particular Vermont , Hunzinger family.


Susanna Creller

1740-xxxx


Married

Dec 27 1761

Albany New York

David York

17xx -before 1800


Daniel York

1762-abt 1850

Elizabeth York

1775-18xx

David York

1777-1867

Girl York

178x-18xx

Boy York

179x-18xx

Girl York

179x-18xx

Girl York

179x-18xx

Children of Susanna Creller and David York

Daniel York -1762- about 1850

Elizabeth 22 Apr 1775

David York jr 27 July 1777


David York (jr)

1778-1867

Married

    Albany New York

Hester Weaver

1781-1865

The 1800 census records for the town of Hoosic N Y  list a Peter York,  and Susan York

Peter  as head of  house hold has  :  1 male under 10 , 1 male ( probably himself) 26-45  ,  two females under 10  and 1 female 26-45 ( probably his wife)

Susan as head of household has :  2 males under 10 , 1 male 10-16, 1 male 26-25 , two females under 10,  1 female 16-26  and  1 female  over 45 ( probalby herself)



David York jr 1778 -1867 & Hester Weaver 1781-1865


Pieter Creller

1742-1818

As of August 2005, it is believed that Peter Creller did not marry, but remained single, not records of any union have been located for him. After having lost his holdings in the new formed United States, the grant of land that he received in Canada was left to his nephew, son of Phillip.

Records show one Peter Craller, holding lease of 87 acres of land at East Manor , Rensaelar, N Y as of June 19, 1770

There is a Peter Creller (farmer of NY) listed on the role list of the King's Rangers, more commonly called Roger's Rangers.

There is evidence that Peter Crawler, Peter Crawler (jr) and John Crawler were members of Capt Abraham Van Aernam's Company posted above Poesten Kill in 1767. In this listing we find John Hunsinger, Hendrick Young, Peter Bacchus, Jacob Martin, John Jacob Primmerman,Jacob and Peter Rosenberger and Baltus Kammel, all famillies that intermarried to the Creller family.

There is a list in the Canadian archives listing the members of Loyalist soldiers who had fallen under the command of Samuel McKay , who had taken over the command of Col Francis Pfister who was killed at Bennington. On this list we find both Peter Creller and Phillip Creller as having been taken prisioner by the Rebels ( the Americans). John Hunsinger, Jacob Rosenberger, Jacob Hainer jr, Frederick Hainer jr, listed as prisioners, Peter Bockus, Frederick Bockus as having been killed , Henry Ploss, John Near, Frederick Hainer , John Hunsigner, Jacob Hunsinger and Jacob Hainer were listed as Private. The list was made out Dec 20 1777 at Chateauguay Quebec.

We can only assume that perhaps the name of Johannes Creller may be one day found on a similar listing.


In the record at Albany, there is a commiittee report stating that Peter Craller was being liberated from confinement upon his entry into Bond of Security for his appearance and future good behavior dated Feb 1778 . There are also records that one Peter Creller, Henry Catchapah, and Charles Near were member of Roger's Rangers - or the Kings Rangers.

We have Johannes Housinger and Johannes Plowts ( Ploss) listed as members of the Royal Yorkers, or King's Rangers.


Peter Craller appears on a census in 1790 as residing at that time on the Canadain side of the border as a loyalist refugee.

Some historical notes on Bennington V T

August 11 1777
"This was a very hot day in Champlain Valley and, at night, was followed by so violent a storm of thunder, lightning, wind and rain that the soldiers of Lieut. Digby's regiment (the 53rd) could not stay in their tents and the horses were so frightened that they tore down the sheds built to protect them from the sun. Digby wrote in his journal:-- ' A large detachment of German troops consisting of Gen. Reidzels dragoons who came dismounted from Germany, a body of Rangers, Indians & volunteers, with 4 pieces of cannon, went from our camp (at Fort Miller) on a secret expedition; their route was not publicly known, but supposed for to take a large store of provisions belonging to the enemy at Bennington, and also horses to mount the Dragoons.' "**

August 15 1777
"An express arrived to acquaint Gen'l Burgoyne that Lt. Col Baume was attacked near Bennington about 25 Miles from hence, and had taken Post to act as occasion might require, the Enemy being superior in Numbers. The Reserve to the advanced Corps consisting of the German Grenadiers & Chasseurs, about 7 or 800 Men, with two 6 Pounders were order'd to march and support him under the command of Lt. Col. Brymen."--Hadden �

August 16
"Lt. Col. Baume was attacked, defeated and taken owing to the tardiness of Lt. Col. Brymen, who did not march a Mile and hour to his support; Lt. Col. Brymen was afterwards attacked on his march, in which action he lost his Cannon..."--Lt. James Hadden �

August 20
Stung by the defeat at Bennington and increasingly frustrated by his failure to keep the army supplied, Burgoyne writes Lord Germaine complaining bitterly about his situation:

"The great bulk of the country is undoubtedly with Congress in principle and zeal; and their measures are executed with a secrecy and dispatch that are not to be equaled. Wherever the King's forces point, militia to the amount of three or four thousand assemble in twenty-four hours; they bring with them their subsistence, etc., and the alarm over, they return to their farms. The Hampshire Grants [present-day Vermont] in particular, a country unpeopled and almost unknown in the last war, now abounds in the most active and rebellious race in the continent, and hangs like a gathering storm on my left..." 5


Anna Creller

1744-xxxx

Married

Uncertain

Colony of New York

              XXXXX XXXXXXX


I had thought that Anna might have been married to on Hendrich Young a neighbour who had his name listed with the Loyalist forces of 1767. A child of Hendrich and one Anna, was bron 1782, Margareth and the witness to the christening was Phillip Creller. Unfortunately I have not been able to find any documented evidence that clearly establishes a relationship between Hendrich Young and Anna Creller as of 2008 . so until it is determined to be so , I shall leave Anna Creller waiting here for her soulmate.


Elisabetha Creller

1747-xxxx

Married

June 17 1765

Albany, New York

Petrus Maerthen

xxxx-xxxx

Annatje Martin
1766-1842

Derick ( Richard) Martin
1768-1852

Marytje Martin
1771-xxxx

Petrus Martin
1773-xxxx

Jacob Martin
1775-xxxx

Abraham Martin
1778-xxxx

Johannes Martin
1780-xxxx

Catrina Martin
1782-xxxx

Philippus Martin
1785-xxxx

Ebenzer Martin
1791-1882

Abraham 7 Mar 1778
Annatje 25 Oct 1766
Catrina 10 Oct 1782
Derick 15 Aug 1768
Jacob 9 Aug 1775
Johannes 19 Apr 1780
Marytje 17 Feb 1771
Petrus 21 Jul 1773
Philippus 29 Apr 1785
Ebenezer 18 June 1791


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Petrus Martin (21 July 1773) & Elizabeth Smith
Elizabeth 3 Oct 1791
Peter 18 Jul 1795

For a more complete Martin family record we direct you to Regi Milan's web page ....


Johannes Creller

1749-1777

Married

Abt 1770

Albany, New York

Elizabeth Rosenberger

xxxx-xxxx

Maria Creller

1776-xxxx

Elizabeth Creller

1777-xxxx

Elizabeth Creller born Dec 16 1777, Johannes was listed as deceased ( possibily died in War of Independence)

Johannes is listed as having joined the Loyalist forces in the Revolutionary War . He may have well been killed or injuried seriously enough to have died before the birth of his second daughter , his name has not been found on a listing of dead or captured as of 2010.

Elizabeth Rosenberger, is the sister of George, who married Regina Creller.




Phillipus Kreller
(1752)- 1760-1831

Married
Abt 1784
Rensselaer, New York

Nabb Unknown
-1816


Peter Creller
1785-1870
Rufus Creller
1787-1865

Johannes Creller
1790-

Polley Kimmel Creller
1792-
David Creller
1805-
Philip Creller
1809-1875

Hannah Creller
1816-1871


From the information available (as of 2004) ,we know that Peter Creller was born in Red Hook NY and that his brother Rufus was born in Hoosic NY and that Polly was baptized in Schaghticoke NY . The names of the above children were culled from the records in the register's office in Bedford Quebec, the known dates confirmed with the inscriptions on the tomb stones found in the area. No record or any stone has been located for Phillip's wife, who we assume may have passed away before the family settled in the Stanbridge area. The fact that Polley Creller has been given the middle name of Kimmel or Cammel and given the assumption that the Kimmel or Cammel family was among the families that have been found to be associated with the Creller, one might assume that Phillip's wife was a Kimmel or Cammel. ( research still remains to be undertaken)



There is one Philip Crellior who served in Captain Augustine Odele' Company of Lt Colonel H K Van Ranssalear's

Regiment of Albany Country Militia, and a Phllip Crawler, listed with another Loyalist force, along with a Peter

and a John Crawler


Regina Creller

1756-1801

Married

1777

West Camp

Colony of New York

George Rosenberger

1754-1836

Jacob Rosenberger
1778-xxxx

Maria Rosenberger
1780-1813

Anna Rosenberger
1782-xxxx

Johannes Rosenberger
1784-xxxx

Elizabeth Rosenberger
1789-xxxx

Catharina Rosenberger
1798-1820

Magdalane Rosenberger
1791-1824

George Rosenberger
1801-xxxx

Maria Rosenberger 22 Apr 1780 - 26 Mar 1813
Anna Rosenberger 30 Jan 1782 -
Caty Rosenberger 13 Jun 1798 - 11 02 1820
Laney Rosenbeger 08 Sept 1791 - 09 Feb 1824
Jacob Rosenberger 05 Feb 1778 -
Johannes Rosenberger 22 Apr 1784-
Elizabeth Rosenberger 23 Apr 1789-
George Rosenberger 17 Apr 1801 -
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George's father was John/Jacob Rosenberger, his mother Regina ( Unknown). George also had brothers Martin -Jacob- John and Peter ( possible others)

It is firmly believed that Peter Rosenberger born 1746, is the Peter that moved up into the Stanbridge Quebec area along with Peter Creller and his family

George Rosenberger is shown as having leased 573 acres in Peterburg, Resleaner NY, and as having an additional lease of some 83 acres at East Manor. as of Sept 3 1789

Peter is shown as having leased some 100 acres in East Manor Aug 6 , 1773

Johnnais Roseberg is shown as a leasee, but no indication is given as to the location nor acerage, leased.


Johannes Creller
of
Whitehall, New York

Johannes Creller
1790-18xx

Married
abt 1812
Whitehall NY

Mary Brown

xxxx-xxxx

Hannah Creller
1813- 1872

John Creller jr
1815-xxxx

Charlotte Creller
1817-xxxx

Adaline Creller
1819-xxxx

Jacob Creller
1822-xxxx

Nancy Creller
1824-xxxx

Nelson Creller
1825 -1891

Rufus Creller
1829-xxxx

Lafayette Creller
1836 - 1865

Well into the year 2006, we have been unable to uncover much information of Johannes and his immediate family. It is assumed that while his brothers moved up into Canada, he may have remained in Whitehall, finding it more profiatable and or comfortable. There certainly must have been some difference of opinion that arose, as from this particular point in time, there does not appear to be any inter-family relation with those who moved to Canada. Even in the will of his presumed father Phillip, Johannes is not mentionned , nor is any thing left to him by way of inheritance. There is certainly a good deal of work left to be done in this area of the history of the Creller family before we can say for a fact that what we have shown here is really the correct assumption.


We have almost certain confirmation that Rufus left the USA and found himself in New Zealand, where he married and produced a good size family under the name of Cruller ( which was either just a spelling error or an error in pronounciation)

At one time it was thought that Jacob had moved off to Texas, and became involved in the ranching of cattle, either as a cowboy, ranchhand, or ranch owner, but unfortunately this thread of information has been lost (as of 2006) and it cannot be confirmed.

We find John Creller on the census of 1875 in the town of Conquest, Cayuga County NY living by himself, with no family. this may or may not be the last records we have of him. There is a John Carler born 1815, listed as living in 1880 in Boonville, Oneida county NY. He has a wife Sarah ( born 1838) , a daughter Winnie ( Winefred)( born 1866) and a son Hiram (born 1871). Winnie is listed with a last name Dart but there does not appear to be any explanation for this unless the transcriber confused the spelling of Winnefred.

On the 1900 Census record we can find Hiram and his family however the spelling of the name is now Casler , which once again could simply be a confused transcription.

Hiram born 1871, is living in Oneida county NY with a wife Mary E ( born 1870) a daughter Winefred M ( born 1894) , a son George A . (born 1895), his sister Winnie ( Blakeman - perhaps she had married / born 1866) and his mother Sarah M Casler born 1838.


Again on the 1910 censu we find the family in Onedia county NY, Hiram now with the initial J attached to his name which was once again spelled Carler



If records could be found of the burial place of Johannes and his wife, we might be able to confirm the wherabout of Adeline and Nancy, for nothing has been found indicating that these two married.

There is certainly opportunity here for some good intensive geneanical detective work, should some one consider leanding a helping hand.

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The 1840 US Census lists a John (Johannes) Creller living at Whitehall NY in this family there are

1 Male in the age range 70-80 ( perhaps Johannes's father or maybe his father in law)

1 Male in the age range 50-60 (certainly Johannes himself)

1 Male in the age range 10-15 (this most likley Rufus)

1 Male in the age range 5-10 ( this most likley Lafayette)

1 Female in the age range 40-50 ( Johannes's wife Mary Brown)

2 Females in the ages range 15-20 ( this would be Adaline and Nancy with out too much doubt)

July 2013

A copy  of the 1930 application made by Charles J Creller, for membership in the Sons of the American Revolution  California Chapter  ( ( as posted on Ancestry .com ) national number 40772 State number 1227) which was accepted in 1932 has provided  some more light into the Creller family records.  I have corrected some of my initial  BMD dates  in light of this find however  I have been unable to  collaborate some of the detail that Charles has put  on his application  with the mention of a Jacob Creller  , unless  Jacob is  in fact a Jacob Peter or a  Jacob Rufus or perhaps   Jacob Phillip  .

As copied from application - I Charles J Creller am lineal descendant  of Philip Creller who was born  Unknown (either in England or Canada) on ( records unobtainable) . I was born on the 24th of July 1870 . i am the son of John Creller, born Feb 23rd 1846, who died May 15 1922 and his wife Sara B. White born 12 16 1850 died 9 4 1911, married 7 1 1869.

Grandson of Nelson Creller born 3  2 1825 died 5 15 1891, his wife Jane A Young born 9 22 1822 , died 3 27 1899 , married 1845 .

Great grandson of John Creller ( records unobtainable)

Great great grandson of Phillip Creller 

The services of my ancestor Philip Creller during the war of the revolution were as follows :  Private - Van Renselear Regiment  - Odell's Company, - page 351 Archives of the state of New York Vol 1 . 

To this point the information I have managed to collect confers with that of Charles J Creller

In the application for membership , Charles J Creller  has added these notes :

The Creller family history prior to my grandfather's family  ( Nelson) is very little known. There are no family records prior to the brothers and sisters of my grandfather. Some little history has been handed down from mouth to mouth ; Philip and his brother Jacob Creller had a serious quarrel shortly after reaching New York State. Jacob dropped an L from his name and the only reference there after found is whn he enlisted as a drummer April 1777, 3 years - Col Wm Malcom's Regiment, one of the 16 regiments in Continental   service , officered by  Gen Washington , credited to New York Capt Seaford's company ( page  241 archives of New York) . It is surmised that Jacob Creler died during the war for no branch of the Creller family by that name is known of either in the USA or Canada.

I have been unable to locate anything on Jacob Creler  or Jacob Creller  that would allow confirmation  of this assumption


Hannah Creller
1813- 1872

Married
Whitehall NY

Issac Virgil

xxxx-xxxx

Mary Virgil

1835-xxxx

Emily Virgil
1837-xxxx

Nancy Virgil
1840-1863

Frederick Virgil
1843-xxxx

Luther Virgil

1844-xxxx


Hannah , Isaac and thier daughter Nancy are buried at the Greenmount Cemetery in Whitehall N Y

A verification of the 1855 Whitehall census , district 2, shows Issac 47 , a farmer, living with his wife Hannah 47, Emiliy 17, Frederick 12 and Luther 10 ( this was family was recorded as the 381th one, in the 447th dwelling that the census recorders came across)


Daughter of William John Kinner & Polly Palmer

Frederick Virgil
1843-xxxx

Married

Mary Ellen Kinner

1844-1916

Eugene Virgil

1870-xxxx

Charlotte Creller
1818-xxxx

Married
December 17 ,1834

Whitehall NY

William Ziba Manning

1811-xxxx

John Manning

1836-xxxx

William Ziba Manning (jr)
1838-xxxx

Albert Augustus Manning
1840-1913

Mary Manning

1843-xxxx

Hannaette Manning

1845 - xxxx

George Manning

1847- xxxx

Byron Manning

1849-xxxx

Clarence Duane Manning

1851-xxxx


In 1850 we find the Manning family established in Fort Ann, Washington county NY

.

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Notes for ZIBA MANNING: Farther to William

The following is taken from "The Manning Families of New England and Their Descendants"
by William H. Manning, published in 1902.

ZIBA MANNING:�..The date and place of his birth are unknown. The date was not far from
1787, and the place may have been Berkshire County, Mass. In manhood, he resided at
Whitehall, N.Y., and was captain of the sloop Independence in 1811, and, later, pilot of
the steamer Phoenix, a boat running on Lake Champlain between Whitehall and St. Johns,
Canada.
He lost his life on September 5th, 1819, when the Phoenix accidentally caught fire and
was burned on the night above named. The steamer, at the time, was about 14 miles from
Burlington, Vermont, 4 miles from Colchester Point, and 2 miles from Providence Island.
The fire began at one o'clock at night. One rowboat put away, filled with passengers,
and the second, and last, was lowered and being filled when an occupant cut the rope
which held it to the steamer. It drifted off, leaving 11 persons on the rapidly-burning
Phoenix, of whom one was Ziba Manning. Some already in this second row-boat rebelled
against returning for the imperilled 11, thinking that the boat would be overladen,
(though later it was determined that there would have been room for all.) These
wretches carried their point by threats of violence. The 11 were left and both boats
were rowed to Providence Island and their passengers landed. The boats then returned to
the Phoenix. The steamer had become a mass of flames, and the eleven unfortunates had
thrown tables, planks, etc. overboard and committed themselves to the waters of the lake
with only such frail support. Of their number five, including the Captain, were saved
by the crews of the returning row-boats, but the other six had succumbed and been
drowned. Ziba was one of the six.

Children of RACHEL POLLEY and ZIBA MANNING are:


WILLIAM ZIBA MANNING, b. August 03, 1811, Whitehall, Washington, New
York, USA; m. CHARLOTTE CRELLER, December 17, 1834, Whitehall, Washington, New York,
USA.

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Albert Agustus was born in Fort Ann N Y


Nelson Creller
1825 - 1891

Married
abt 1845
Victory NY

Jane Anne Young
1822 - 1899

John Creller
1846-1922

Peter (Lewis) Creller
1849-1921

William Nelson Creller
1859-1936

.

In 1850 we find that Nelson has moved his young family to Cato, Cauyuga County N Y where he is farming some 3,500 acres. The 1850 US Census has Nelson listed as Cheller, he is living in the same dwelling as Ira Jones (61) and his wife Lydia ( 51). There appears to be a William Jones 26 located recorded in the same dwelling. Nelson Cheller(24), Jane (27), have two boys John (40 and Peter (1) at this particualr time . Town of Cato, county of Cauyuga N Y , 29 July, 1850.

Notes from Charles J  Creller   

state that listed in his grandfather bible are 

John creller bor Feb 23 1846 in Conquest NY

Peter Creller born July 1849 in Cato NY

and

William Creller born May 10 1857 in Victory N Y  

Charles wrote  : From William Creller my uncle I learned that John Creller was the name of my great grandfather, having never seen his grandmother he had forgotten her name, the tombstones have  disappeared from the above graves.

There are two branches of the Creller family in the USA  one of Canadian origin  ( David Creller of  Fankfort county Ont) and the other descendants of  Philip Creller  ( perhaps the Vermont Creller)

Jane A Young wife of Nelson Creller was a direct descendant of the  Carpenters who settled on Long Island, the records of the family were destroyed in 1876 or 1877 when ralp Deering started for England with the records to prove title to property interests and was murdered in NY and the records stolen or destroyed.

Sarah Borden White    mother's name 


John Creller
1846 - 1922

Married
abt 1869
New York

Sarah B. White
1850- 1911

Charles James Creller
1870 - 1941

Frederick Eugene Creller
1875- 1943

Birdella Leora Creller
1878-1968

Mabel Winnefred Creller
1889-xxxx

1920 US Census shows John living with his daughter Berdella Wixson and her family at age 73 a widower Springvale M I


Charles James Creller
1870 -1941

Married
December 24 1893

Ida Marie Flagg
1867-1952

Ethel Marie Creller

1922- 1980

Charles J Creller was lisited in San Franciso in 1922, as being Sectretary for the Grand Lodge of the Kinghts of Pythais, Pacific Ridge


Ethel Marie Creller

1922- 1980

Married
July 22 1921
San Diego Ca

Sterling Price Womack jr
xxxx-1964

Ruth Elizabeth Womack
1922-1990

Charlotte Marie Womack
1932-xxxx

Patricia Florence Womack
1933 - xxxx


Frederick Eugene Creller
1875- 1943

Married
1905

Bertha Geneva Wallace
1886- 1921

Virgil Eagle Creller

1906- 1989


Virgil Eagle Creller
1906- 1989

Married
Novemebr 1 1928

Evelyn Carmen Cesario
1910-1990

Frederick Donald Creller
1929-xxxx

Stanley Christopher Creller
1931 -1986

Mary Creller
1932-1983

Linda Lee Creller
1938 -xxxx

Robert Eugene Creller
1940-xxxx

Donald Virgil Creller
1945-xxxx


1st marriage

Frederick Donald Creller
1929-xxxx

Married
abt 1950

Wanda Fridley

xxxx-xxxx

2nd marriage

Frederick Donald Creller
1929-xxxx

Married
23 June 1961

Joyce Marshall

1921-2006

Michelle R Creller

1963-xxxx

Marcy Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Karen Creller
xxxx-xxxx-

Mila Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Josette Marie Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Michelle R Creller
1963-xxxx

Married

Mr Young

xxxx-xxxx


Marcy Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Married

Mr Perry

xxxx-xxxx


Karen Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Married

Mr Andres

xxxx-xxxx


Mila Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Married

Mr Walker

xxxx-xxxx


Josette Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Married

Mr Kangas

xxxx-xxxx


Gary Donald Creller
1951 - xxxx

Married
abt 1971

Miss Townsend

xxxx-xxxx

Shiloh M Creller

1972 - xxxx




1st marriage

Stanley Christopher Creller
1931 -1986

Married

Peggy Arlene Wardlow
1933-1952

2nd marriage

Stanley Christopher Creller
1931 -1986

Married
abt 1954

Mary Elizabeth Glover
1932-1983

Diana Suzanne Creller
1955 -xxxx

Christopher Tracy Creller
1957-xxxx

Kelly A Creller
1959-xxxx


Diana Suzanne Creller
1955 - xxxx

Married
bt 1982

Gary Belknap

xxxx-xxxx

Rayann Belknap

1983 - xxxx


Christopher Tracy Creller
1957-xxxx

Married
abt 1979

Nona Brown

xxxx-xxxx

Robert Christopher Creller

1980 -xxxx


Kelly A Creller
1959- xxxx

Married
September 19 1987

Shahin Vosburgh
1959-xxxx

Zachary James Vosburgh
1990-xxxx

Kelsey Lili Vosburgh
1991-xxxx


Linda Lee Creller
1938 -xxxx

Married

Glenn Fisher

xxxx-xxxx


Robert Eugene Creller
1940 -xxxx

Married
1980

Roseann Siedel
1945-xxxx

Eugene Eagle Creller

1979-xxxx



Donald Virgil Creller
1945 -xxxx

Married
abt 1969

Donna Marsh

xxxx-xxxx

Cherie L Creller
1970- xxxx

Dana R Creller
1974 -xxxx



Lafayette Creller
1836 - 1865

Married
August 12 1861

Mercie B Robinson
1845 -xxxx

Margaret E Creller

1862 - xxxx

It is believed that Mercy Robinson Creller remarried after the death of Lafayette in the Civil War, There is a record showing a Mercy Creller (born about 1845) marrying one Nathan Whitney, in 1866 in Illinois.


Margaret E Creller
1862 -xxxx

Married
abt 1887

Charles E Putman
18xx -xxxx

Clayborne L Putman
1888-xxxx

Mary Putman
1893-xxxx

Stanley R Putman
1895-xxxx




1st Marriage

Peter J. (Lewis) Creller
1849-1921

married
abt 1868

Sally Jones
1854-188x

Kathy Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Child Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Arcy Creller
1869-xxxx

Adaline Creller
1872-xxxx



Raymore Cemetery Cass Cty Missouri


Arcy Creller
1869-xxxx

Married

Rebecca Biggs

xxxx-xxxx

Stella Jane Creller

1886-1956

George Aaron Creller
1892-xxxx

Arthur Creller
1895-1973


2nd marriage

Peter J . (Lewis) Creller
1849-1921

Married
abt 1883

Clara Sink
1865-1946

Lewis Creller
1884-1952

Chester Arthur Creller
1894-1997

Mildred Creller

xxxx-xxxx


Stella Jane Creller
1886-1956

Married

June 24, 1903

Leonard Watson

xxxx-xxxx

Rose Watson
xxxx-xxxx

Zola Watson
xxxx-xxxx

Clara Watson
xxxx-xxxx

Mae Watson
xxxx-xxxx

George Watson
xxxx-xxxx

Roy Watson
xxxx-xxxx

Ray Watson
xxxx-xxxx

Leon Watson
xxxx-xxxx

Glen Watson
xxxx-xxxx

Everett Watson
xxxx-xxxx

Mrs Stella Watson, dies early Sunday :

Mrs Stella Jane Watson, 70 passed away at her farm home in Excelsior Township early Sunday morning, Nov 18. She was born Feb 24 1886 in Delton ohio Mich. On June 24, 1903 she married Leonard Watson and the couple moved to Kalkaska County in 1920. To this union 12 children were born. She is survived by ten children Rose Waldorf of Wyandotte, Mrs Zola McIntyre of Peroria, Ill, Mrs Clara Wagenshutz of Petroskey, Mrs Mae Smith of Belleville, George of El Cayon Calif., Roy of Marshall, Ray of Midland, Leon of Kalamazoo, Glen and Everett of Kalkaska: two brother Arthur Creller of Vermontville and George Creller of Battle Creek, sixty grandchildren and 24 great gandchildren.

Mrs Waston was removed to the Berg Schwartz Funeral Home where she remained until one o'clock Wed Nov 27. At that time she was taken to the Excelisor Church where funeral services were held at 2 o'clock. Rev Miller officiated at the service and burial was made in the Excelisor Township Cemetery - Leader and Kalkaskian November 22 1956. ( Information courtesy Leader and Kalkaskian ( www.upnorthpub.com))

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George Aaron Creller
1892-xxxx

Married

Pearl Edith Allen
1896-1928

Lyle W Creller

1917-1978


Lyle W Creller
1917-1978

Married

Julia F Hale

xxxx-1986

Lyle W Creller jr
1960-xxxx

George Arthur Creller
1961-xxxx

Rebecca Pearl Creller
1963-xxxx

Gary Allen Creller
1966-xxxx


Arthur Creller
1898-1973

Married

Ruth Burkett
xxxx-xxxx

Arthur J Creller
1929-2007



Arthur J Creller
1929-2007

Married

Arliss Unknown

xxxx-xxxx

Phyllis Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Nancy Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Steven Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Phyllis Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Married

Mr Lawrence

xxxx-xxxx

2nd marriage

Phyllis Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Married

Mr Stevens

xxxx-xxxx

Tracy Stevens
xxxx-xxxx


Tracy Stevens

Married

Eric Lovelaand

xxxx-xxxx


1st Marriage

Nancy Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Married

Mr Chupp

xxxx-xxxx

Arthur Chupp
xxxx-xxxx

Henry Creller
xxxx-xxxx


2nd marriage

Nancy Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Married

Kyle Odette

xxxx-xxxx

Steven Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Married

Lisa Unknown

xxxx-xxxx

Steven T Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Austin Creller
xxxx-xxxx

Holden Creller
xxxx-xxxx





Origins have yet to be determined

Gerald Leroy Creller
1941-1996

Lyle George Creller (jr)
1940-2006

Records show last residence for Gerald as Calhoun, Mich, and Lyle G as Rhea, Tenn.



1st marriage

Lyle George Creller jr
1940-2006

Married
Novemeber 15 1978
Nueces, Texas

Charlotte Sincler
1950-xxxx



2nd marriage

Lyle George Creller jr
1940-2006

Married
July 3 1979
Texas

Judith S Gregg
1948-xxxx


Chester Arthur Creller
1894-1997

Married

Martha Unknown
1899-1981

Chester Arthur Creller jr
1916-1975

Alvin Creller
1917-1994

Howard Creller
1921-1996

Lewis ( Ralph) Creller
xxxx-xxxx

adopted

Records show Howard Creller's last residence as Sequoyah, OK

Chester Arthur's last residence as Sequoyah, OK

Chester Arthur (jr) 's last resident as Greene , Missouri

A note appearing in the March 1931 issue of " The Frisco Employees' Magazine" reads ' The following was received from Chester Creller, whose wife was killed in a crossing accident at Ruth yards recently: ' I desire to thank my friends for the many acts of kindness in the death of my beloved wife, Vernia Creller ; also desire to thank Rev. J .W. Moore, the Frisco Railroad, the St. John's Hospital and the Huribut Undertaking Company for every kindness in my trouble caused by this accident .' '

As there are many Chester's in the Kreller and Creller family lines is it really uncertain if this note belongs with this particualr family as the wifes's names is different to what had be assumed. Further verification many help in placing this note with the correct family.

Chester Arthur Creller jr
1916-1975

Married

Mildred Tomaier

xxxx-xxxx

Son Creller

xxxx-xxxx


Malinda White Creller

xxxx-xxxx

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William Nelson Creller
1859-1936

Married
abt 1878

Angeline Barber
1854-1920

Alonzo J Creller
1879-1968

Clarence Creller
1880-1935



1st Marriage

Alonzo J Creller
1879-1968

Married
Novemeber 7 1900
Cayuga NY

Blanche V Green
1882-1919

Mabel A Creller
1901-1902

Eva May Creller
1903-1903

William Creller
1906-1969


2nd marriage

Alonzo J Creller
1879-1968

Married
1919

Catherine Hart
1900-1958

Harold Creller
1919-xxxx


Harold Creller
1919- xxxx

Married

1940

Margaret Elizabeth Fraser

1921- 2006

James R Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Harold T Creller jr

xxxx-xxxx

Charles Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Steven Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Creller , Margaret Elizabeth

RED CREEK; Age 85 died Saturday, Sept 2 ,2006 at home with her family by her side.

Margaret was born, October 8 , 1920 in Victory N Y, the daughter of the late Charles and Sarah Snyder Fraser.She was a life

time resident of Red Creek. She had owned and operated Creller�s Meat Market with her husband, Harold, for 34 years.

She was a former member of the Red Creek Presbyterian Church, Red Creek American Legion Auxiliary and the Red Creek Fireman�s Auxiliary.She is survived by her husband Harold T Creller, Sr, whom she was married to for 67 years, 4 sons:

Harold T ( Robin) Creller jr of Alabama, Charles ( Shirley) Creller of Fair Haven, James ( Dee) Creller of Baldwinsville,

Steve Creller of Red Creek, 12 grandchildren of which grandma and grandpa raised granddaughter : Peggy ( Joseph) Creller �

Greenwood of Wolcott, 23 great grandchildren, 6 great great grandchildren, several nieces and nephews.Funderal Servies will be held at 9:30 AM Wednesday September 6 2006 at Becker Funeral Home, 6816 Church St, Red Creek N Y.

There are no prior calling hours. If desired memorial contributions may be made to the Red Creek Amublance, Red Creek NY 13143

RED CREEK - Marriage, according to Harold Creller, works best when there is compromise. And Creller should know. He and his wife Margaret Elizabeth were married 67 years before she died Sept. 2. She was 85.

Harold Creller is 88.The Crellers ran Creller�s Meat Market for 34 years in the former Pitcher�s Red and White. Not only were they husband and wife; they were business partners, too. Harold met Margaret Frazer in 1938 at the Red Creek Firemen�s Field Days, he said. �Now Grandpa, I remember Grandma saying you met at a Valentine�s Day dance,� said his granddaughter, Peggy Creller-Greenwood, who came into Creller�s living room during the interview, carrying a laundry basket. Her grandson, Zeke Hollier, 3, tagged along. �No, no; that was later,� said Creller, who joined the Red Creek Fire Department when he was in his teens and has been a member ever since. �We met at a field days.� Margaret had come from Wolcott; she was one of nine children and she moved to Red Creek to help out in the Tabor household, Harold said. �They had a big family,� Creller said about Margaret�s relatives.


The couple courted for a year before the Rev. Horace Pittman married them at Ed Tabor�s house, Harold said.
He was 21 and Margaret was 19. Harold remembered that he worked until 10 p.m. in a meat market that day before arriving at the Tabors� home and saying his wedding vows at about 11:30 p.m. He said in those days, he earned $15 a week. The couple set up housekeeping on Main Street in Red Creek next to a church. They lived there and raised four sons: Harold T. (Robin) Creller Jr. of Alabama, Charles (Shirley) Creller of Fair Haven, James (Dee) Creller of Baldwinsville and Steve Creller of Red Creek.

They also raised Creller-Greenwod. She now lives in Wolcott and comes each day to spend time with Creller,
doing light chores and preparing his meals. She is one of Creller�s 12 grandchildren, 23 great grandchildren and
six great-great great grandchildren. The couple moved to the ranch house on Westbury Road in 1968, when the house was new. The Crellers opened their own meat market in 1950. �Before opening Creller�s Market in Pitcher�s Red and White, I was approached by Guy Parsons of Port Byron and Russ Cramer of N. Fair Haven to start our market in the R&W,� Creller said. Mr. Pitcher was the stepson of Mr. Parsons,� he said. �Previously, I was employed as a meat cutter at Mackies IGA, which was next door.� Creller said he can remember a time when there were five groceries or meat markets in Red Creek. He said he got into retail because it was one of the
few jobs that were available at the end of the Great Depression.

�It was tough going; you took any job available,� he said. He also recalls when he and his son Jim, looking for a
niche business, decided to start selling ground turkey. They were doing it in the bigger stores back in 1973, when beef prices were rising.

The Crellers got turkey thighs from Plainview Farms and started grinding. It took a while to catch on, Creller said.

�It was hard to get started,� he said. �We had to give out free samples and talk it up.�Although he worked in retail businesses nearly all of his life, he left it during World War II to work at the International Harvester plant in Auburn. He was a die fitter, turning out airplane engine cowling under a sub-contact with Curtis Wright.

�I think that was 1942� he said.Eight years later, they opened their own store. It operated until 1984, when Crellers retired. Creller said he and his wife simply enjoyed staying home together, but they also enjoyed weekends, when they would go fishing and camping, sometimes to the Adirondacks.

Margaret hadn�t been well for the past three or four years, Creller said. She suffered from diabetes. She went into
a nursing home Easter Sunday this year and then died about six months later.After being married for so long, it�s been difficult without Margaret, Creller said. He still likes to fish, and twice a day, he makes his way to the 104 Store in Red Creek, which he calls �the gossip place.� And he has his family, where compromise still comes in handy.

�What would you like to drink, Grandpa?� Creller-Greenwood asked as she prepared to make him lunch.
�Well, what do you have?� he asked.
� Wayuga Community Newspapers, Inc


James R Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Married

Dolores G Wallace

xxxx-xxxx

James S Creller
1970-2004

Kimberly N Creller

xxxx-xxxx


James S Creller
1970-2004

Married

Carol J Myers

xxxx-xxxx

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James S Creller, had begun working on his family tree , which was a great help in completing some of the information on this website, unfortuanley James passed away, which is a great shame. His page can be seen here

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Kimberly N Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Married

Mr Smith

xxxx-xxxx

Harold T Creller (jr)

xxxx-xxxx

Married

Robin Unknown

xxxx-xxxx


Charles Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Married

Shirley Unknown

xxxx-xxxx


Clarence Creller
1880-1935

Married

Verna G Unknown
1886-1974


Have to place one Theresa Luella Creller born 22 Feb 1913 Bary Cty Michigan, died 26 Nov 1983 Bellevue Eaton Ct Mi, Married Sherman A Rugg ( b 28 May 1921 ) and one child of this issue





David Creller
of
Murray Township,
Northumberland County,
Ontario, Canada,
(thought to be a son of Phillip Creller).


David Creller
1821-1884

Married
July 19 1842
Ameliasburg Ont

Sarah Knapp
1824-1887

Mary J Creller
1842-xxxx

Adam Henry Creller
1844-xxxx

Elizabeth Creller
1848-1924

Phila Creller
1856-xxxx

Marshall Creller
1862-1926

David Creller jr.
1872-1881


Many of the records for this family are found under the spelling Cressor or Cresser , those transcribing the records have taken the double " ll " for double " ss ".


Mary J Creller
1842-xxxx

Married
November 19 1860
Sterling Ont

Stephen Hearnes
1840-1911

David H. Hearnes
1864-xxxx

Edna Hearnes
1867-xxxx

Lillian Emma Hearnes
1869-xxxx

Lewis M Hearnes
1880-1963


Stephen S Hearns died at the home of his daughter Mrs Thos Ariss, 1016 North Granger Stree, at 7:30 o'clock Monday morning of arterasclerosis, aged 71 years.Deceased was born in the province of Ontario, August 18,1840. He was married to Miss Mary J Creller in Sterling, Ont Nov 19,1860. After their marriage they lived in ontario until 1863 when the came to Bay City , Mich. They lived in Bay City until 1883, when the came to Saginaw, living here since. Mr hearns is survived by his aged wife, who is in feeble health ; two daughter and two sons. Mrs F E Phillips, Mt Pleasant, Mich, Mrs Thomas Ariss of Saginaw, David Hearns of Redwood City, Cal., and Lewis M Hearns of Oroville, Cal. The announcement of funeral will be made later. - Saginaw Daily News, 16 October 1911.

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Adam Henry Creller
1844-xxxx

Married
November 3 1867
Murray Co, Ont

Julia Ann Bishnett
1850-1932

Sarah A Creller
1870-xxxx

David Creller
1872-1881

William Francis Creller
1875-1960

Frederick Creller
1877-1916

Ethel Lilian Creller
1879-1964

Arthur William Creller
1883-1959

Alice Creller
1869-1876

Henry Creller
1881-1882

Adam moved with his family to Sagniaw Michigan in 1886. Those family members who did not survive before the move, must be assume to have been buried in Northumberland Co, Murray Township Ont ( Adam's mother and father are buried in the Stockdale Cemetery, Frankford Ont.)


William Francis Creller
1875-1960

Married
Saginaw Mi

Iva Maude Charland
1875-1973

                                        Bernice C. Creller
1897-1970                     



1st marriage

Bernice C Creller
1897-1970

Married
Feburary 4 1919
Pasadena Cal

Ruel Irving Strand
1897-1969

William Howard Strand
1921-2000

Unknown Strand

xxxx-xxxx


William Howard Strand
1921-2000

Married

Renette N Scott
1932- xxxx


2nd marriage

Bernice C Creller
1897-1970

Married

Clarence Unknown

xxxx-xxxx

3rd marriage

Bernice C Creller
1897-1970

Married

Mr Stutter

xxxx-xxxx


Frederick Creller
1877-1916

Married
October 25 1902
Tulare Co

Lizetta Atwell

xxxx-xxxx



1st marriage

Ethel Lilian Creller
1879-1964

Married

Abram Paul Bell
1879-1952

Harold Francis Bell

1901- 1965


Harold Francis Bell

1901-1965

Married
1925/26

Rosa Neeley
1902-1987

Alice Jean Bell
1926-xxxx


2nd marriage

Ethel Lilian Creller
1879-1964

Married
September 23 1923
Los Angeles Ca

Christian William Breur
1881-1951


Arthur William Creller
1883-1959

Married
1905

Minnie Bell Clauson
1883-1954




Elizabeth Creller

1848-1924

Married

Hiram Snider

1842-1927

Maria Snider
1868-xxxx

Jesse Snider
1872-1946

William Snider
1876-1948


According to Janet Skinner, Hiram is the youngest son of David Snider and Elizabeth Burr. Hiram moved to Armada, Macomb County, Michigan with Eliza and their daughter Maria (Minnie) sometime between 1868 and 1872. Two sons, Jesse and William, were born in Michigan. Hiram farmed in the Frankford, Ontario area until his retirement in 1925 and is buried with his wife in the Holy Trinity Cemetery, Frankford, Ontario. Their only daughter died at the age of 15 as a result of complications due to measles.



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Jesse Snider

1872-1946

Married

25 September 1901

Frances Fredors Saylor

1871-1943

Ross Franklyn Snider
1902-1972

Donald Jesse Snider
1905-1965

Gerald Francis Snider
1907-1992

Ruby Frances Snider
1910-1992






William Snider

1876-1948

Married

Marie Foster

1887-1980





Phila Creller

1856-xxxx

Married

George Graham

xxxx-xxxx

Jennie Graham
1878-xxxx

Marshall Graham
1879-xxxx

Geroge Henry Graham 25, teamster, Sidney, Ont. Toronto, s/o George Graham and Phebe Cruller, married Jemina Warren, 23, Brampton, Toronto, d/o Thomas Warren and Jemima Lowry : witn Jemima & William Warren both of Toronto, 21 June 1904


David Marshall Creller

1862-1926

Married
1880
Ontario

Laura Ann Pollard
1863-1940

William Creller
1881-1959

David Albert Creller
1883-1957

Helen Creller
1887-1942

Peters Home

Compliments of Darrin Pollard


David M is listed in the white pages 1923 Saginaw, living at 412 South Bates, with Laura A, He is listed as Janitor at the Otter Roser School

William Creller
1881-1959

Married
June 24 1903
Saginaw Mi

Nellie Bessie Lee
1883-1955

Arthur Lee Creller

1904-1995

.
William and Nellie were divorced , Nellie remarried to a Mr Pumford
.
2nd marriage

William Creller
1881-1959

Married
1920 +
Saginaw Mi

Maude Northrup
1879-1953


Arthur Lee Creller
1904-1995

Married
June 26 1926
Saginaw Mi

Goldie Courier Dodge
1909-1991

Nellie Lee Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Ruth Pearl Creller

xxxx-xxxx

William Arthur Creller

xxxx-1973

Norman Earl Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Dwight Dodge Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Arthur Lee Creller jr
1930-1930

Arthur Lee in listed in the white pages 1923 Saginaw as living at 2416 South Niagra, and is an employee at the Saginaw Manufacting Co.


Nellie Lee Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Married

Richard Fish jr

xxxx-xxxx

Richard Fish III

xxxx-xxxx

When I first began tracing the Creller- Kreller family, I was so very fortunate to make contact with Nellie Fish, who sent me letter after letter filled with so much wonderful information. it is almost certain that with out her kind support I would never have advance to where I am as of 2006. I would most likely still be stuck in Clanenceville , Que, with my own little skeleton Creller family, not even knowing that there were so many others out there having the same origins as I. In this day and age when the world appears to be so harsh and uncompromising it is nice to know that one can find wonderful kind people like Nellie Fish.

Ruth Pearl Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Married

Glen Ray Morningstar

xxxx-xxxx

Son Morningstar

xxxx-xxxx

Son Morningstar

xxxx-xxxx

Son Morningstar

xxxx-xxxx

Daughter Morningstar

xxxx-xxxx

Susan K Morningstar

xxxx-xxxx


Susan K Morningstar

xxxx-xxxx

Married

Mr Whitman

xxxx-xxxx

Kelley Whitman

xxxx-xxxx


Kelley Whitman

xxxx-xxxx

Married

Mr Badgeron

xxxx-xxxx

William Arthur Creller

xxxx-1973

Married

Rita May Friesorger

xxxx-xxxx

Les Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Creller

xxxx-xxxx


Dwight Dodge Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Married
September 6 1963

Donna Jean Forshee
1944-xxxx

Michael Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Christina Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Kimberly Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Julie Creller

xxxx-xxxx

David Albert Creller
1883-1957

Married
April 22 1906

Emma Beaudette
1885-1933

Laura Creller
1907-1978

Irene Creller
1909-1993

Kathryn Creller
1912-1996

Alzea Creller
1914-

Larue M Creller
1919-1976

David Creller in listed in the white pages 1923 Saginaw, as living at 610 South Mason, with wife Emma. He is a machine operator at the Saginaw Manufacturing Co.

Laura Creller
1907-1978

Married

George Goodboo

xxxx-xxxx

Rochelle Goodboo

xxxx-xxxx


Irene Creller
1909-1993

Married

Evert Cluts

xxxx-xxxx


Kathryn Creller
1912-1996

Married

Larry Weaver

xxxx-xxxx

Patty Weaver

xxxx-xxxx

Larry Weaver jr
xxxx-
2001


Alzea Creller
1914-xxxx

Married

Ralph W Nye
1916-1992

Sharon Nye

xxxx-xxxx

Jim Nye

xxxx-xxxx


Larue M Creller
1919-1976

Married

Unknown

xxxx-xxxx

Adelle Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Adelle Creller

xxxx-xxxx

Married

Francis Keech

xxxx-xxxx

Grady Keech

xxxx-xxxx

Rene Keech

xxxx-xxxx

Laurie Keech

xxxx-xxxx


1st Marriage

Helen Creller
1887-1942

Married
June 09 1909
Saginaw, Mi

Hearns

xxxx-xxxx


2nd marriage

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Helen Creller
1887-1942

Married
June 09 1909
Saginaw, Mi

Merle Green

xxxx-xxxx



3rd Marriage

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Helen Creller
1887-1942

Married
1913
Saginaw, Mi

John Henry Laurenze
1889-1976

John David Laurenze

1913-1996



Helens Home

Laurenze- Creller Home
Compliments of Darrin Pollard




Hiram Creller
of
Cobourg,Ont

Hiram Creller
1836-1906

Married
December 25, 1857

Jane Ann Diamond
1841-1924

Hiram Creller (jr)
1859-1889

John E Creller
1861-1897

Jeremiah James Creller
1863-1920

Matilda Creller
1868-1891

Francis Creller
1870-1897

Addy Creller
1872-1893

William Creller
1873-1895

Frederic Creller
1874-1897

Hatty Creller
1875-1890

Bestie Creller
1878-1893

Herbert Creller

1879-xxxx



Dates of birth of the children taken from 1881 Canadian Census records, Port Hope Durham East, Ont. the family name was deciphered as TRELLER. The dates of death taken as given by Peter Gendron

Jane Drummond was of Irish extract, her father John Diamond , her mother Matilda Brise ( uncertain)


Peter also has a Herbert C Creller 1879-1966 but he did not show up on the 1881 census. In the 1901 Canada Census we find the family listed as Creeler, Hiram, Jane, Bert and May are living in Toronto west . On the 1911 Canada census we find Bert Cullen listed as 32 year old born 1878 living with his mother Jane A Cullen at the home of Phillip James Cooper , who married May , and they also were in Toronto Ont.

Jerimiah does not appear on the 1901 census listing so it can be assumed that he died before the new century arrived

Peter has a Rebecca Creller which we have assumed in the Bestie as listed in 1881

We have a Harriett Creller who died in 1900 at 23 years of age in Toronto lived at 205 Crawford St

James who died in 1920, had issue , his son in law was H J Smith of Wallace Ave Toronto


John E Creller
1861-1897

Married

Martha Unknown

xxxx-xxxx


Francis Creller
1870-1897

Married

Fanny Unknown
xxxx-1892

Frank Creller (jr)

xxxx-xxxx

Mae Elease Creller
1892-xxxx


Mae Elease Creller
1892-xxxx

Married

Phillip James Cooper

xxxx-xxxx

Audrey Cooper
1908-xxxx

Vera Mae ( Jacqueline) Cooper
1909-xxxx

Gladys Winnifred Cooper
1911-xxxx

Blanche Yvonne Cooper
1913-xxxx

Alma Cooper
1916-xxxx

James Kitchener Cooper
1917-xxxx

The 1901 Canada Cesus shows this family listed at Creeler , not Creller . The 1911 Canada Census shows Phillip and May, living in Toronto with their three daughters and also Bert (Creller) Cullen and his mother ( grandmother to May Creller ) Jane A Cullen . This particular Creller family has been untreated fairly by the Census takers as the spelling of thier name has not yet been found to be correct.

Vera Mae ( Jacqueline) Cooper
1909-xxxx

Married

Mr Gendron

xxxx-xxxx

Peter Gendron

xxxx-xxxx



Also tracing these Creller family lines are :

Peter Gendron - Hiram Creller , b 27 Jul 1836 ,machinist for the Polson and Co Iron Works Toronto Ont, who married Jane Ann Diamond b 24 May 1841 Cobourg Ont.

As of Jan 2005, Peter does not seem to have internet capabilities but can be reached by snail mail at 536 4th Ave W, Owen Sound, Ont. N4K 4V4

Janet Caswell - Lottie Creller born Feb 26 1900 Bedford Qc and believed to have been brought up by her maternal grandmother Rebina Rouse Caswell Satwell . Janet can be reached at jcaswell@netover.com


Nellie Fish David Creller & Adam H Creller , believed to have originated from the Eastern Township area of Quebec and landing in the Murray Township of Northumberland and Durham Counties Ont around 1846 - ( unfortunately we no longer have a valid email for Nellie ) I can provide you with her snail mail address if you contact me at langhouse@sympatico.ca

Adelle Keech David and Adam Creller is also tracing the above family lines, she can be reached at FrncKee@aol.com

Charles Penasack Adam Creller has also researched this family line he may be reached at cpenasack@yahoo.com


Regi Milan - Hannah Martin, of Stanbridge, wife of William Norton, from New York to Vermont in 1787, then to Stanbridge she has death record for Hannah 1842 .

Hannah is the daughter of Elisabeth Creller and Petrus Maerten married 17 Jun 1765
Regi may be reached at rmilan@xmission.com


James S Creller - Alonzo Creller 1879- 1968 lived in Wolcott N Y . James may be reached at (unfortunately we no longer seem to have a valid e-mail for James)

Susan Creller - Harold Creller Sr. 1919- family of Alonzo Creller . Susan may be reached at susan@sleepmail.org

Gary Creller of Michigan - grandfather George Creller, black smith who married Pearl Edith Allen, his brother Arthur Creller and his great grand father named perhaps "Arzy" Creller . Gary can be reached at Creller34@aol.com

Linda Creller Fisher - Jacob Creller , Revolutionary war period 1770 -1777, Linda may be reached at eheb@mylbluelight.com


Gilbert Leach Kranzt- Kreller Gilbert is very knowledgeable of the area in which all these familes first established themselves, Gilbert may be reached at Gilbleach@aol.com



The Palatinate family
WOLLENBEN

This information was accumulated and processed following many years of hard work and steady commitment to genealogy research by Mr Wayne V Jones of Huston Texas. Without his deidcated efforts and expertise in dephicering the the early records of time we would know very little about the origins of our family the Wollenbens, if any thing at all. The complexe issuse surrounding the movement of the Palatinate people in Europe and their wanderings to the new world is a maze of situations few would dare to tread, and even fewer would be successful in arriving at reasonable conclusions.

With the multitude of military skirmishes, all out wars and many geneocidial schemes that have occurred in the area of the origins of the Palatinate people, it is littl wonder that any records at all survived and can be consulted. Military actions first and foremost create disruptions to our daily habits, our daily habit of recording information is abruptley halted , and in some cases not reinstated at the same location, or not reinstated at alll.
Families are decimated, papers are destroyed, and even churches are burned with out a second thought as to what value any of this has had up to that time.

Men and women for that matter, when ever they decide that an opportunity has arrisen to enrich themselves and thier lives, do not consider at any time , that they may be indeed inflicting much suffering upon thier fellow man/woman. This is has been shown time and time again thoughtout our history, back to the Bibical days , right up , to our own actual daily times, and no doubt will carry on beyond our times into the continuing generations.

Today however we are most fortunate to have several options for recorded information and in most cases we would be able to reconstruct the genealogy information as it pertains to our immediate families. We owe one great deal of appreciation to Mr Wayne V Jones for the information he has provided and we trust that the following will be of much interest to you, the descendants of the Palatinate family
WOLLENBEN .


Extracts of Mr Wayne V Jones records :

The earliest know ancestor of all the American Wohlleben emigrants who arrived in 1710 was Peter Wollenben, a locksmith at St Johaan, Saarbrucken, who married 29 April 1601 Barabra Blasbach. Peter married a second time in 1624 on Catharina ( Unknown) .

A son of Peter was Pastor Johann Paulus Wollenben. Johann was Pastor in Altstetten 1624-1635 and a school teacher at Homburg 1625-1632, and in 1635 was obliged to flee to Saarbruken and Metz during the 30years war.

In 1645 we find Pastor Johann at Kallstadt near Bad Durkheim, in 1646 a schoolteacher in the district of Bassel, Switzerland and in 1647/48 Pastor Johann back again in Altstadt.

Pastor Johann was at Altenbaumberg and appears to have died around or before 1676. He had married Barbara Schumacher of Bassel, a daughter of Hans Schumacher and his wife Agnes Ruoff, who was baptized at St Elizabeth Basel 18 Jan 1618.

From the union of Johann Paulus Wollenben and Barabara Schumacher
we have

Maria Barabra 1656 at Kallstadt
Christoph
Johann Peter ( Hans Peter) 8 Sept 1646
Walrath 20 Oct 1648
Anna Catharina 1651 .... who married Johann Michael Languth ... she died 20 Nov 1688 .. 37 years old
Johann Rupert ......... who married Anna Catharina Unknown





Walrath ( Walrab) Wollenben was inducted into the service of the Court and was sponsoered to the Lering family in 1673. He married in 1676 at Hochheim near Worms to Anna Catharina Baumann, a daughter of Hans Peter Baumann , a citizen and cooper of Bacharach.

Anna Catharina Baumann - Wollenben appears to have arrived in America, as she appears on the Hunter list in 4 July 1710 along with five persons in the family. She continues to be listed untill 1716/1717 where upon she is listed as a widow. --- (Now Mr Jones does not provide any details as to the disposition of Walrath, from the manner in which he has provided the information I assume that Walrath himself did not make it to America, and have to assume that either he was not alive at the departure time, or that he died during the voyage, as many a poor soul did , on that long and ardous trip to the New world)


From the union of Walrath Wollenben and Anna Catharina Baumann we have


Johann Peter ( Hans Peter) born 28 Jan 1677
Johann Henrich 23 Dec 1679
Maria Catharina 22 Dec 1685 ............ married Johann Henrich Spohn 20 Feb 1711 at West Camp
Catharina Margaretha 15 Sept 1688
Anna Margaretha 16 Feb 1690
Sarah Catharina 18 Apr 1691 ........ married George Martin Dillenbach probably at West Camp
Maria Sussana 22 Feb 1695 .......... married Laurens van der Vogen probably at West Camp
Johann Nicolaus 9 Feb 1698
Anna Margareta 23 Mar 1701..................... married Christian Berg 7 Aug 1722

and possibily
Anna Elisabetha before 1685 ...................nay have married Stephen Frolich



Johann Peter Wollenben ( Hans Peter) was a baker at Roxheim , he married Angne Odenheimer, daughter of Niclas Odenheimer, on th 9th of July 1697. His wife and 5 children are listed on Capt Johan Rannel's shipping records leaving Rotterdam in 1709 .

It could be assumed that since Johann Peter married once again Ange Odenheimer died perhaps during child birth of Elizabetha, or that she passed away during the ardous journey to America. Which ever it is we find Johann Peter Wollenben married to Anna Rosina Forster before April of 1711.

John aged 33, his wife, sons aged 5 and 8 and daughters aged 10, 4 and 1. The family arrived in England that year. Peter Wollenben first appears on the Hunter list 4 July 1710 . Johon Petter Wollefen (Wollnfon) was naturalized the 8 and 9 of Sept 1715.

A Peter Wolleber and Anna Rosina with 5 children can be found on the Beckmanlands roll in 1716/1717.

A Peiter Wouleben appears on the North Ward rolls in 1717/1718 and continued to be recorded until 1723/1724 ( Dutchess Co. tax lists)

Peter Woolever was a freeholder of Amwell in 1741, and was most likely the Pitter Wooleve who signed the Articles of Order and Dicipline of the German Ref Church of Amwell 1 Dec 1749.

From the union of Johann Peter Wollenben and Agnes Baumann we have the following


Anna Maria 9 Mar 1698 at Roxheim died 1700
Anna Margaretha 22 Nov 1699 at Roxheim
Johann Jacob 20 Nov 1701 at Roxheim
Johann Peter 3 Feb 1704 at Langenlonsheim
Elizabeth Catherina 30 May 1706 at Langenlonsheim


From the union of Johann Peter Wollenben and Anna Rosina Foster we have the following

Johann Henrich 4 Nov 1711 at West Camp
Sussanna 27 Dec 1713 at West Camp
Anna Barbara 8 jan 1716 at West Camp
Catharina Elisabetha 12 Jan 1718 at West Camp
Anna Maria 23 Oct 1720 at West Camp


Johann Nicolaus Wollenben , was the sponsor of Johann Henrich Widerwachs in 1711, and Henrich Spohn at Schoharie in 1716. Nicolas Welleven was a patentee on the south side of the Mohawk River 30 Apr 1725 ( Burnetsfield Patent)

Nicolas Wohlleben was a member at the Fall 1744 ( Sommer's family List in the Schohaire church book)
One of the wifes of Johann Nicolaus was daughter of Nicolaus Feller ( will of Nicolus Feller)
The will of Nicolaus Wohleben of Brunetsfield was datef Feb 23 1773 and probated 11 Nov 1783

The union of Johann Nicolaus Wollenben and most likely the ( Maria Elisabetha) daughter of Nicolaus Feller produced the following

Sophia
Henrich of Stone Arabia .... married Magdalena / Margaretha
Peter of Stone Arabia married Catharina Flack 17 Jul 1765 ( may have been Piter Wohlleber of Capt Mark Petry's company in 1757 )
Catharina ................ married Friederich Schumacher June 1750 at the Falls
Elisabetha
Dieterich .............. married Anna Elisabeth Deigert/Tygart 8 Mar 1770 Stone Arabia
Johannes
Anna Maria ..........married Friederich Muller 26 June 1749 Schoharie
Magaleana
Abraham ................ married Margaret Stahring had daughter Margaret Wohlenben bapt 15 07 1803
Anna born 3 May 1759
Jacob born 10 Jan 1761 Stone Arabia
Nicolaus


Johann Jacob Wolenben baptized at Roxheim 20 Nov 1701 was naturalized 8/9 Spet 1715. Jacob Woolleven was first recoded on the North ward rolls in 1726/1727 and continued to be listed unti 1733
( Dutches Co Tax lists)
Jacob Woolever was a freeholder of Amwell in 1741. A History of East Amwell 1700-1800 has many references to this family. His will was dated 2 Feb 1744 and was probated 30 mar 1774.

Johann Jacob married 31 May 1720 Maria Elizabeth Schwitzeler. They had issue baptized at New York City, Rhinebeck Flats Reform Church.

( Unfortuately for us Mr Jones did not pursue this line any further so it is now open forn any one wishing to complete it and bring it up to date)


Johann Peter Wollenben was baptised at Roxheim 3 Feb 1704 and more than likely naturalized 8/9 Sept 1715 with the rest of his family, married Margaretha Vink ( Fink).

The will of Peter Willever of Kansfiled Woodhouse Twp, Sussex Co NJ was dated 1767 and probated that year.

( Unfortuately for us Mr Jones did not pursue this line any further so it is now open forn any one wishing to complete it and bring it up to date)


Johann Henrick Wollenben baptized 4 Nov 1711 . Henry and his brother Peter Wooliever of Amwell were listed in a poll for an election 9 Oct 1738.
The will of Henry Woolever of Amwell Twp, carpenter was dated 9 Oct 1739 and was probated 17 Nov 1739 the will does mention Ann , his wife and children in detail

( Unfortuately for us Mr Jones did not pursue this line any further so it is now open forn any one wishing to complete it and bring it up to date)


Christoph Wohleben was listed as a son of Pastor Johann Paulus Wohlenben ( Wollenben) on the NY emmigrant list. Christoph and his wife Gertraud were recorded at Steinbockenheim as early as 1686.
Christoph Wohleben appears on the Hunter list 4 July 1710 with two person over the age of 10 accompanying him.

From the union of Christoph Wollenben and Gertraude ( Unknown) we have

Johann Philip confirmed 1688 age 15 ( born abt 1673) Steinbockenheim
Anna Barbara confirmed 1688 at age of 12 Steinbockenheim
Johann Valentin confirmed 1694 aged 15 Steinbockenheim
Johann Michael baptized 24 Feb 1686
Anna Eva baptized 1 Aug 1688 she was buried 1 Sept 1688 aged 5 weeks
Johann Jacob baptized 7 jan 1693 Steinbockenheim


Johann Philip Wollenben born abt 1673 , may ha ve have been same Johan Wollenben listed along with Han Miggel Wollenben on Capt Thomas Key's ship list in 1709 sailing from Rotterdam.

Philipp Wohlenben appears on the Hunter list 4 July 1710 along with one person over the age of 10
Philipp Wollenben was listed in Mar 25 1712 , residing with a widow Gebelin, and 3 person over age of 10
Fillib Wolleber was naturalized Sept 8/9 1715
Philipp Wolleber was recorded with Valentin Wolleber at Beckmansland 1716/1717
Phililp Wollenben was tazed 5(pounds) in the Highlands in 1720/1721 ( Ulster Co tax records)
Papers in the estate of Philip Wallaven were issued 30 May 1727

No record of a marriage for Johann Philip has been located howver we do have records of several children

From the union of Johann Phillip Wollenben and Anna Margaretha we have the following

Anna Margarteha born 12 May 1714 West Camp NY
Johannes.................married 26 March 1745 to Anna Margaretha Wuerst at Tulpehocken


Johann Valentin confirmed 1694 aged 15 Steinbockenheim , is most probably noted as Hans Felten Wollenben with his wife and 3 children on Capt Thomas Key's ship list out of Rotterdam in 1709.

Valentin Wohlenben appears on the Hunter list 4 July 1710 with a wife and two children. Valentine Wollenben turns up in Ulster Co West Camp 1711 census as being himself and his wife, leaving us to assume that the two children who may have begun the journey to the New world did not in fact live very long.

Vallentyn Wolleven was naturalized at the same time as a majority of his family that being the 8/9 of Sept in 1715.
( it is really unfortunate that the family were not recorded in more detail than they were, and it really would have benn constructive to have the same registar records members of the same family, then all he spelling would have been the same even if they were mis spelt to begin with)

We have a Valentin Wolleber and his wife Sussana listed a Beckmanlan in 1716/1717, and a Hans Feelten Woleven on the North Wards in 1717/1718 and was listed continously until 1755 Dutchess Co tax List.

It would appear that Valentine had married Sussana XXX before they undertook the voyage to the New world, as not other marriage records for Valentin have been located

From the union of Johann Valentine Wollenben and Sussana we have the following

Johann Henrich baptized 18 March 1708 at Saalstatadt possibly died at West Camp NY
Anna Maria Dorthea born 10 Nov 1714 at West Camp NY ... married Peter Kreller/Creller
Anna Margaretha 14 Apr 1717 at West Camp NY


Johann Michael Wollenben 24 Feb 1686, or Hans Miggel Wolleben was listed with a wife and one child on Capt Thomas Key's shipping list out of Rotterdam in 1709.

Michael Wohleben appears on the Hunter list 4 July 1710 with what appears to be only his wife.



In order for the researcher to understand a bit more of the reasons why there is such a great difficulty in establishing the particulars of any one of these Palatinate family origins I have linked this site to two wonderful history stories that have been put on the net courtesy of the --- genealogy program. After having read the history as it is set out for us, it becomes much easier to understand why there is so much confusion in the names and places and who is who , or who belongs to whom. It has to be remembered also that the majority of the population at that time were unschooled, they could not read, nor write. They never knew how thier name was supposed to be written so they would never correct the way it appeared in the records. We have a majority of the population speaking not only many languages, but many dialects within those languages, and this may or may not have been accompanied with a diction that was not articulated properly. Even today in America, often a schooled person speaking American english if he was from Texas, would have trouble understanding a person of the same status from say Long Island NY, while both would be using the same words, the texture of the speaking, the speed of the speaking and even the pronoucation of such words as Tomato, and Potato , could lead one or the other to record the conversation differently.

To a point in fact I just have to take my name Macfie and talk to some people over the telephone, let me tell you I would get a dozen relpies all addressed to me but with my name spelt a dozen different ways . Now this is the year 2003, and the majority of the population is educated, well at least most of us can read and write.

Imagine back in 1710 that I had a speech impediment, or that I had a hair lip, or stuttered, or was just nervous and did not speak loud enough when I came up to the table to register as a resident of this new world , I told you who I was ( again not knowing how my name was supposed to be written) and you wrote it in your not so wonderful hand writting ( you of course were not a poet but perhaps just some Sergent who had had a few lessons of schooling ), these papers were filed away in some damp basement of some building that had been damaged by the weather, or a war or two.

Then one day some one out of the blue, some 200 years later decides that it might be a good thing to recopy the records for prosperity. HOW would my name appear !!!!!!!! How would your name appear !!!!!!!!

That is why we have to have some good faith, a bit of guess work and a little bit of luck to make a family tree look that it is indeed our family tree . Do not necessarily look at the spelling of the name, better yet put some marbles in your mouth and then try pronouncing the name, you just might be suprised to see who turns up.






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William A. is listed in the 1923 Saginaw white pages as an operator at the Saginaw Manufacturing Co. ( no wife is listed )