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Who is Fredk WENTAY- well turns out to be Fred DINSEY 

But can you find Samuel KING or Susannah what is her age 

A couple of weeks ago I asked this question on the London----------

 


1851 census Ancestry has Fredk Wentay 39 but he is 34 and is a Schoolmaster from Marylebone.
He is a visitor at my great grand mother's Ann King
This Wentay is the only time the name appears anywhere in Ancestry
1851 HO107; Piece: 1493; Folio: 943; Page: 68; GSU roll: 87822-87823.
Can you tell me what the surname is? Please!
Fredk is involved in research into Wm and Ann KING's family see King

Re Mr. WENTAY in 1841 - one of life's little dilemmas!! The transcription looks pretty right

And a kind of consensus was that the writing was WENTAY but that the enumerator got it wrong 

So it is WENTAY BUT It wasn't 

BINGO all is revealed see Dinsey - Fred Dinsey married Ann King and obviously the name Wentay was Dinsey - all easy when you find it

I was looking at 1861 marriage of Jane KING ../Eagle/1861JohnEAGLEmarriage.htm
and a witness was Samuel King who I did not know 

So as marriage was in Greenwich I looked for him locally and there he was stepson to Fredk Dinsey - with his obvious mother Ann Dinsey - and of course there is a marriage for Ann King to Fredk - I had not thought that was my g2gm as I assumed she was deceased - and daughter Matilda was living in the St Pancras house in 1861. As Jane's spouse was also in Kent I now understand that was how they found each other - Fredk DINSEY was a schoolmaster and gave that up to become a Collector of Debts and that job was Greenwich. Thank you Fredk you certainly contributed to me eventually being here. 

Fredk also appears in 1871 living with Matilda back in St Pancras - Ann died in 1869

And re-visiint the I can see looking at 1861 Dinsey how in 1851 the W was a D and how the s looked like a t and how easy it is for e to be i or i to be e and also a mix up with e 

1851SusannahKing.jpg (255795 bytes)

To see DINSEY in 1861 click this one 1861dinseypart.jpg (243053 bytes)

If you want to re-look at Wentay 

I can see looking at 1861 Dinsey how in 1851 the W was a D and how the s looked like a t and how easy it is for e to be i or i to be e and also a mix up with e 

Could you also please look at Susannah and check her age for me - is it 8

 

1851pageJaneKing.jpg (580242 bytes) click here to see whole 1851 document to compare writing

and have a look at the perhaps same Fredk as found in 1841 below

Finding Susannah KING Well I can see some in 1861 but depends on her age was she born 1842/43 - she was born in St Pancras as were most of the younger family

I cannot see a birth for her and Yet I can find Samuel

Finding Samuel KING Well Susannah appears to be 8 in 1851 and Samuel is 18 in 1861 so were they twins and FreeBMD has him
Samuel  King Births Sep 1842   St Pancras  1 284 
I could not find Sus* birth 

Now Susannah is with mother in 1851 but not found in 1861

Samuel is with mother in 1861 but nowhere in 1851 Samuel  King Births Sep 1842   St Pancras  1 284 

 

perhaps Lydia Lydia KING in 1841 census was 11 so born around 1830 - not born in Middlesex so could be London Surrey

no deaths for Lydia KING in Pancras and Marylebone up to 1851

She is not at home at 1851 
and this is only one I can see - I suppose it is likely her
Lydia Ann King  abt 1830  Lambeth, Surrey, England Servant  Hampstead  Middlesex  working for the Bakewell's

Marriages are prolematic

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