Photo Scanning and Editing
Some points on size re scanning slides
It has taken me some time but I think I have a workable method.
My mother left me some albums and lots of loose photos and then I have our
own photos and slides and negatives.
Unfortunately my mother did not always tell me WHO was in the photos and alas
I have forgoten who some of them are
Equipment: Hewlett Packard Scanner HP 4470C with an XGA adapter for Slides and Photos
Anyhow onto method for Photographs - I'll try slides and negatives later
These methods are just concepts and I have not firmly decided every detail as yet
SAVING as TIFF or JPG
There is an excellent and detailed discussion at
http://www.ekdahl.org/archiving_photo_images.htm
This extract is valuable
But the important thing to realise is that image deterioration only occurs **when you save as a jpg**. There is no quality penalty for changing formats from jpg to tiff: and the only quality loss is when you save as a new jpg file, e.g. converting tiff to jpg.
So the advice normally given is:
1
Shoot so that your camera either saves jpg or tiff, depending on your card
capacity and quality requirements.
2 When editing, save intermediate files in TIFF as there is no loss of quality
However my own opinion is that "best jpg" is indistinguishable on paper from TIFF that I always save intermediate files in that format because of the lower file size. But no doubt others disagree... :-)
Further
Excellent work flow here and discusses saving working copies as Tif
http://www.rideau-info.com/genealogy/digital/workflow.html
Ron's Conclusion
When Scanning it is good to save at high res and ok in JPG. TIFF might fractionally be better but I am hearing that difficult to tell JPG from TIFF. Tiff costs a lot to store - so I am now thinking I will store as Jpg but when editting will first save as Tiff and then edit the Tiff file and then re-save as Jpg at the end.
and the summary from above site
http://www.ekdahl.org/kurs/archiving_photo_images.htm
SCANNING
- try to sort by decades
- put a range of photos onto scanner
- at first I was using the scanner to crop and scan each one in turn
- NOW scan the whole page in one go and save as TIF
- all I have read is that although TIF is large - it is best for use a master original - Jpg are the ones to use on the web but every time you adjust they lose some quality
- use a Name for the TIF like 1930crop2 - crop meaning I have to edit
- also Save same page as PDF and then turn over any photo with writing on the back and Save as 2nd page of PDF - PDF is good compression so in one small file I have a page to match the TIF and a page with some clues as to Who and When etc
- Take the photos off scanner and put in envelop or something that enables you to get back to 1930Crop2 if ever needed
- You can continue with more scans until all done
- Or proceed to Edit
Photo Examples here using Porta photo album
EDIT - Stage 1
- Open the TIF with an editor ACDSee Photoshop Irfanview Picasa - whatever you like
- now use the crop tool to grab a photo out of collection
- maybe leave an area around the photo as it may not be level
- after the crop - use SAVE AS and rename the photo - don't overwrite the TIF with all the photos
- with SAVE AS keep new photo as TIF and use a name like 1937grandma_C2 - identify who etc is in photo and C2 for Crop2 so you can get back to original
- Keep this in same folder as original
- Now if the photo is not level - it is hard to place level on scanner - use the editors rotate feature to move the image
- This is not a 90 degree rotate - there should be a function to adjust by 1 or 2 degrees etc whatever makes it look good
- Straightening a photo is very nicely handled in Picasa
- now Crop to make a reasonable photograph - you always have the original master Crop to get it from again in the future
- now see if you want to adjust exposure etc or clean up anything
- Gamma is often good for this
- I am not discussing major photo editting
- Save
Edit Stage 2 - Caption using IPTC
- Now creating JPG for photo albums and web pages and videos etc
- Save the Editted TIF as a JPG
- I am using Picasa which is Free from http://picasa.google.com/index.html
- and Irfanview also free from http://www.irfanview.com/
- These 2 programs are brilliant and at an offer hard to refuse
- Irfanview at moment is great for IPTC - 2007 I am starting to move to Xnview also Free
- and Picasa is preferred for Web Albums and also as it indexes all my pictures - it does IPTC but the edit is difficult
- IPTC is the ability to add a caption into the details of picture - and can be read by several different pieces of software
- Anyhow I have found FREE software that works for me
- In Irfanview when you have a JPG click - Image - Information and at the bottom is IPTC - keying two " i " will get you straight there
- There is a large box to enter a Caption (other items also and I expect I will use those also)
- Save the caption etc - Help says this Save will not lose any quality from JPG
October 2005 - I have found IPTCext at http://photothumb.com/IPTCExt/index.shtml
This is shell - simply open properties on JPG and I can add captions - and all
this is loseless to a JPG
Also PORTA http://www.stegmann.dk/mikkel/porta/
This is another simple tool - just click right on a folder and there is Porta on
the options - it creates a web album - very simple. Edit Album has a
feature to put the IPTC sutff as a caption on the web page - absolute fantasttic
- this is a fast program - Picasa2 is slow compared to this - BUT you have to
tell Edut Album each time to get the IPTC stuff. You can also edit CSS templates
to your own styles for the web pages - the styles Porta has anyway are excellent
Photo Examples here using Porta photo album
and the Jave Script Simpleviewer is brilliant - you just click bottom
corner to advance to next image or other corner to go back.
3/2006 - deciding I like PORTA for web pages but want really to make video so folks can play on DVD into TV -
Only way I can see after trying PROSHOW see below was that I would have to put the IPTC metadata onto a label with the image.
Currently I think a left hand margin with the text rather than bottom of image - as most TV are wide rather than long and left sounds right to me
Verdana Font looks reasonable for this job
LABEL on the Photo - Irfanview
- If you want you can get that label into the body of the photo so the photo is tagged for all to see
- Select an area on the photo - mouse click and create a box
- Then Edit and Insert text into a box
- You could type your own text or the IPTC caption
- Click HELP in the text window and various options are availble
- The straight forward IPTC caption is $120 not a piice a code in Irfanview
- And there you have a Label
- And you can use Batch to overlay text from IPTC fields- note Pixvue for batch update of IPTC
LABEL underneath photo or alongside
- Routine above only puts on top of photo image which kind of messes up the picture
- If you want as a separate footer etc I found that I could create a NEW image with a nice back ground and then paste the photo into it - ensure new is deeper than the original - this leaves a BOX at bottom onto which with InFraview you can add the Caption as above
- I used ACDSee to create the box but other software should do this
- 3/2006 irfanview has Canvas Size and a box can easily be added - also using batch
PICASA Album on Web - 3/2006 more into Porta
- In Picasa have a folder of jpg with IPTC captions - and you could use Picasa rather than Infraview
- On the Library tag click create Web Page
- I like the initial ones with grey background
- Click to go forward
- A web page with Thumbnails which you can click
- and you will get a nice web page with the IPTC Caption above the Image
- You can play with the web page templates and where you store them etc
- NOTE: Picasa edit of Caption is difficult as bascially you have to delete and retype
- Well when you have the web page with the captions - you simply copy the text from page and paste it into Notepad or something - edit it and then copy paste back into Picasa so you have a new caption
Phew lots more to sort out
This guy http://www.rideau-info.com/genealogy/digital/captioning.html has some good ideas but uses some paid software all the above are free
Some Album etc possibles
http://fotosaver.com/index.htm has its own Text descriptions but not IPTC it seems - BUT this might suit you
http://www.through-the-lens.net/index.php?page=1
| Software tried and Removed | |
| Cam2pc | Not bad - quite a quick browser - had EXIF support but with a warning which was strange - but I could not see IPTC |
| http://www.studioline.net/ | Looks like it does IPTC and produces web sites BUT it costs - was a demo but fiddly getting actiavted - but at those prices I will wait until I really know I want |
| Pro Show Gold and Producer | It seemed to say it would produce video using IPTC - so I
downloaded the Gold version $70 demo - sadly it only had macros for EXIF -
so I asked their support - quickly they came back and said only in
Producer version $400 - I tried it and it did but did not wrap the text -
they said I could put line breaks as wanted into IPTC caption but at $400
no thanks....
And the time line for show caption and drop it did not work - some temporary hiccup I suppose - obviously you want that if overlaying images with caption as you also need to see the image clearly |
| ACDSee 8 | I have been using v4 for some time and thought v8 had some function usage for IPTC but no it handles it but does not provide much usage - their support were responsive and I left their "ideas" group with what I was looking for. |
Making CDs
Lula Bliley's Photo Album Read Me Page
Good stuff especially on Movies with Microsoft Photo Story and Movie Maker http://www.papajohn.org/
Summary
| SOFTWARE I LIKE | |
| Photo edit - Gamma - Colour Crop etc | ACDSee XnView Irfanview |
| IPTC captions | PixVue for smart interface and template for batch update
Xnview and Irfanview can also be used for edit |
| Web Site pages | Porta - fast at creation and with the Java add on is really
nice
JAlbum also produces nice page and big plus is handles multiple folders - Porta does not - JAlbum then gives an index page to all your different folders does not allow the Java and is slower than Porta BUT I still have to tinker with it Pixvue also looks good and I must do more with it |
| Overlay Label on Photo from IPTC metadata | Irfanview - it wraps the text and has batch
Xnview - sadly does not wrap text but you could use line breaks within caption etc |
| Video | Microsoft Photo Story 3 - Windows Movie Maker does it but it is really liking the new app is "better" for slides |
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