Notes for Lawrence Dye
Born about 1807 in Kentucky
1810 census Fleming
Co., KY Page 77
Peter Dye 1 - - 1 2 - 1 1 - - - 1
1 - age 0 to 10 (Lawrence, age 3)
1 age 26 to 44 (Peter, age 28)
2 age 45 & older (??)
1 age 10 to 15 (Eliza, age 7)
1 age 16 to 25 (Abigail, age 25)
1820 census Mount Carmel, Fleming Co., KY Page: 35
4 1 - -1 - 1 1- 1 - 2
4 - age 0 to 10 (John, age 1, Nehemiah, age 4, Kenneth, age 8, 1 unknown son?)
1 age 10 to 16 (Lawrence, age 13)
1 age 26 to 45 (Peter, age 38)
1 age 0 to 10 (unknown daughter??)
1 age 10 to 16 (Eliza, age 7)
1 age 26 to 45 (Abigail, age 35)
January 20, 1825 - marriage bond for Lawrence Dye & Mary Ann Vantreese in Fleming Co., KY
April 04, 1825 - son Hiram born in
December 02, 1826 - daughter Martha Jane born in KY
abt 1828 - daughter Philadelphia Phebe born in KY
March 12, 1830 - daughter Elizabeth born in KY
1830 census Fleming Co., KY
1 male 20-29 (Lawrence, age 23)
1 male 10-14
1 male 5-9 (Hiram, age 5)
1 female 20-30 (Mary Ann, age 20)
3 females under 5 (Martha, age 4, Phebe, age 2 & Elizabeth, age baby)
June 1836 - daughter Catherine Angeline born in KY
Indenture 23 Dec 1836
Fleming County, Kentucky: Deed Book U, p. 17 (Grantors)
Elijah Lamar and Kesiah Vantreese Lamar, with Eli Hinton and Lucinda Vantreese Hinton, enter into a land indenture contract with Lawrence Dye. Lamars receive $ 400 and Hintons $ 350 to assign Lawrence Dye and his heirs "undivided interest" in the tract of land owned and possessed by Frederick Vantrees "supposed to contain 157 acres" including portion of the said estate of Frederick Vantrees which may be allotted to the widow of said Vantreese (and would revert to Keziah and Lucinda as part of widows dower at her death. Also included in the disposition is "their share or portion of the slaves of the estate of said Frederick Vantreese, dec'd" as well as any personal interest following the widow's death.
1838 - son John Samuel born in KY
May 1839 - daughter Mary Lucy born in KY
1. Fleming Co, KY Circuit Court File # 6292, Abner Hord vs. Lawrence Dye (defendent), September 1838 Lawrence owed Abner Hord $75 of a $200 loan which had been "due since 25th day of December 1837 and no part has been paid. The said Lawrence resides or formerly resided in The County of Fleming where he has a tract of land containing 157 acres, 2 slaves and a considerable portion of personal estate as your orator is informed, which said property is under the management and [could not read this word] of his brother John Dye. But the said Lawrence Dye, about the last of December 1837 left the state of Kentucky and went to the State of South Carolina with some horses and mules as he was informed, and the said Lawrence Dye has not returned ... since." Hord asked for an attachment against the lands & effects of Lawrence Dye and payment of court costs. The Sheriff was authorized to seize the lands to the amount of $75 plus interest and court costs and hold them until further order of the court.
2. Fleming Co Circuit Court File # 6676, David Henderson vs Lawrence and Mary Ann Dye, 11 May 1839 Lawrence owed David Henderson $100 for the "purchase of smith work" 19 Oct 1837. Lawrence was in the "Southern Country of Georgia" and had not returned as expected. His wife, Mary Ann, and his personal property were still in Fleming County, Kentucky. On 16 Nov 1839, Lawrence's property was sold as decreed by Circuit Court: 1 mantle clock, 3 beds and furniture, 1 secretary, 1 dining table, 1 candlestand, 1 looking glass, 6 common split bottom chairs, one cupboard and contents, 1 sorrel colt, 16 head of sheep, 4 hemp breaks, 1 fire shovel, 1 teakettle, 1 cutting machine, 1 ten gallon kettle, 2 smoothing irons, 2 shovel ploughs, 1 wash tub, 1 churn, 1 grindstone, 1 McCormick plow, 1 Cary plough. Sold for a total of $127.14. In testimony his brother, John Dye, stated that Lawrence went to Georgia about 15 Sept 1838 and was last heard from in Crawfordsville, Georgia and that he had with him when he left some household and kitchen furniture and some stock consisting of horses, mules, hoggs [sic], cattle and sheep, "and further this deponent saith not".
3. Fleming Co, KY Circuit Court File # 6990, Jeremiah Wells vs. Nehemiah and Lawrence Dye, Sept 1840 This suit concerned a note for $640 owed since 1837, with Nehemiah Dye as surety. However in September 1840 Nehemiah "has little or no property of value". An order was entered to seize and sell "the property of said Dye in the hands of his wife, Nehemiah Dye, and Samuel Fitzgerald for payment of $640 with interest from March 1838" plus costs. The Sheriff seized 1 bay mare ($60), 1 dun mare ($40), 4 coults [sic] ($35 each), 1 mule ($30), 2 milk cows ($12 each), 8 yearling calves ($8 each), 1 [Learham]? calf ($50), 80 head of stock hogs ($80), 17 head of hogs (?), 5 tons of hemp ($350).
Other Fleming County Circuit court cases which I did not
1. #6200, Lawrence Dye et al (defendent) vs. Jno. L. Luman, Sept 1838
2. #6253, Lawrence Dye et al (defendent) vs. Abner Hord, Sept 1838
3. #6817, Lawrence Dye (defendent) vs. Harrison Summers, Mar 1840
4. #7286, Lawrence Dye (defendent) vs. Edward G. Wood, Mar 1841 (may be
the same as #7243)
1840 census 1st Division of Fleming Co., KY
Mary Ann Dye
1 male 10-14 (Hiram, age 14)
1 male under 5 (John Samuel, age 2)
1 female 30-39 (Mary Ann, age 30)
2 females 10-14 (Martha, age 11 & Elizabeth, age 10)
2 females 5-9 (Phoebe, age 8 & Angeline, age 4)
1 female under 5 (Mary Lucy, age 1)
Lawrence had gone out of state to try to raise money. The court awarded most of his estate to his debtors while he was gone, and when he returned the family emigrated to Illinois about 1841.
4. Fleming Co, KY Circuit Court File # 7243, Claiborn F. Wood vs. Lawrence and Mary Ann Dye and Samuel Fitzgerald, March 1841 Lawrence owed Claiborn F. Wood $83.49. Hiram Dye and Henry C. Tully made a deposition at the counting room of Anderson and Wood, Helena, Mason County, KY, who swore the above amount was a just and true accounting of goods purchased of Anderson and Wood in February 1838 - November 1838 (tea, sugar, coffee mill, molasses, indigo, etc.). The Sheriff seized slaves, Harriet ($200) and Henry ($300) from Mary Ann.
Moved to Vermilion County, Illinois in 1841. Note in research by Daisy Cooper says names of Lawrence Dye & Frederick Van Trease are found as late as 1843 in Book Y, page 338 Fleming Co., KY. Land was in Mill Creek, which is near the Mason County line. Several Dye families in Mason County on 1850 census.
1841-1849 - son Albert born in Vermilion Co., KY. He died December 1849.
1850 census Census District No. 21 Vermilion
Co., IL page 326
Lawrence Dye, age 43, b. KY
Mary A. , age 40, b. KY
Hiram Dye, age 25 , b. KY
Martha, age 21, b. KY
Elizabeth, age 19, b. KY
Angeline. age 14, b. KY
John, age 12, b. KY
Mary, age 10, b. KY
David Sconce, age 20, b. KY (David Sconce later married Elizabeth Dye)
Elizabeth Vantrease, age 75, b. MD
Harriet, age 19, b. KY
Henry, age 11, b. IL
April 01, 1851 - daughter Blanche born in Vermilion Co., KY.
state census Vermilion Co., IL
1 male 40-49 (Lawrence, age 48)
1 male 10-19 (John Samuel, age 17)
1 female 50-59 (?)(Mary Ann, age 45)
1 female 20-29 (Angeline, age 20)
1 females 10-19 (Mary, age 15 and Lucy, age 10)
1 female 0-9 (Blanche, age 4)
1860 census Elwood Twshp,
Vermilion Co., IL
Lawrance Dye, age 53, b. KY
Mary A., age 50, b. KY
Lucy, age 20, b. KY
Blanche, age 9, b. IL
1863 - Lawrence is described in military papers as 56 years old, 5'7" tall, dark complexion, black eyes, black hair. Occupation was listed as farmer.
January 29, 1865 - Mary Ann died. She is buried in Mt. Pisgah cemetery, Georgetown, Vermilion Co., IL.
1870 census Elwood Twshp, Vermilion Co., IL - Lawrance Dye, age 63. Living by himself.
17, 1871 - married widow Delilah Creitzer. Vermilion Co., IL book B, p69
DYE, LAWRENCE CREITZER, DELILAH VERMILION 03/17/1871 3 /69
According to pension records, was a Civil War veteran in Company "C" 73rd Regiment Illinois Volunteers. (Union Army) He was a Private. He enlisted at Vermilion, IL, and served from July 24, 1862 to January 28, 1863 when he was discharged at Nashville, TN. He contracted "camp diarrhea" in the service, and spent the later years of his life in poverty. Doctor treated him in last years of his life for free. He died September 7, 1879, and was buried September 8, 1879 at Mt. Pisgah cemetery, Georgetown, Vermilion Co., IL. Son-in-law David Sconce was appointed guardian of his minor children from his second marriage after his death.
Company "C" 73rd Illinois Infantry
DYE, John Private Vermilion Co Aug 21, 1862 Killed, Stone River, Dec 31, 1862
DYE, Lawrence Private Vermilion Co Aug 21, 1862 Disch, Jan 28, 1863; disabil.
GERRARD, Alexander Private Vermilion Co Aug 21, 1862 Died, Nashville, Nov 26, 1862
GERRARD, John Private Vermilion Co Aug 21, 1862 Died at Bowling Green, Ky., Nov 16, 1862
Original Message -----
From: Brenna Tidwell
To: to DyeSociety members
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 1:59 AM
Subject: Rumors of Indian blood in Dye line
While searching the archives
for links to OK DYEs, I ran into a few queries from Kari Northup who wondered
about Indian blood in the family.
From conversations about his family, Marvin Dye mentioned that it was rumored in his family, but he had no direct info. His father, Clyde Evans DYE was born in what was then Choctaw Territory (about 1900). My fiance, Mark (Marvin's 5th child) vaguely remembers "Aunt Jarushima" (phonetic spelling) who was indian. does not recall any details, such as full-blooded or mixed, ect. Considering the times, and the fact that so many of the people in this family immigrated to US, then migrated across the country as it grew, I find it harder to believe there is no Native blood in our history!
While researching my own family history, we found evidence that my gggrandmother was probably 1/2 Blackfoot. Unfortunately, my ggrandmother would not even discuss the issue, when she was young, it was... let's just say, VERY undesirable to have mixed blood in the family. It is also rumored that in my fathers line (FAUBEL, FINDLEY), there is both Cherokee and another (NWPacific) tribe. How unfortunate that our ancestors felt they had to deny such noble heritage, I would be so thrilled to be able to prove that I was (even distantly) related to such People.!
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