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Notes for John Dye

The Family of William Dye & Margaret Salter

Served in American Revolution. John was a private in Capt. Jonathan Combs Co., 3rd regiment, Middlesex Co., NJ (DAR#191642)


State: NJ Year: 1780
County: Middlesex County Record Type: October Tax List
Township: S Amboy Township Page: 004
Database: NJ Tax Lists Index 1772-1822

State: NJ Year: 1782
County: Middlesex County Record Type: March Tax List
Township: S Amboy Township Page: 006
Database: NJ Early Census Index

Will of William Dey
September 4, 1784

In the name of God Amen I William Dey of South Amboy in the County of Middlesex and State of New Jersey being of perfect mind and memory thanks be given to the almighty God for the same and calling to mind the mortality of my body doe (sic) make and ordain this to be my last will and testament and as tuching such worldly estate whearewith it hath pleased God to bless me with in this life - I give and bequeath and dispose of the same in amnner and form following. It is my will and I do order that in the first place all my just debts be paid.
I give and bequeath to my well beloved wife Margret DEY the sum of one hundred pounds in gold and silver, my best bed and beding, my best horst and riding chair with harnesses compleat, my best cow - all to be her own forever. And it is my will that my executors hereafter named are to pay yearly to my wife Margret, the sum of fifteen pounds in gold or silver, the first payment to be paid in six months after my disceas (sic) to be paid to her every year as long as she remains my widdow (sic) - and it is my will that my wifeMargret shall have my yong (sic) negro wench Kate, to wait upon her as long as she lives or remains a widow, After her discease it is my will that what is left her should be devided (sic) equally among the legatees hereafter named or their survivors. I have given already to my children as followeth - to my son William the sum of thirty pounds, my son Joseph thiry poounds, my son John thirty pounds, Kenneth one hundred and fifty pounds, Peter one hundred fifty pounds, my daughter Rebecca thrity-five pounds, Abba forty pounds, Lydia thirty-five pounds, Jane sixty pounds, my grandson Nemiah MOUNT thirty-five pounds, my daughter Eupphame forty pounds. All these sums is to be deducted out of each ones share, then to be divided equally amongst my children by my executors after that part that each one hase (sic) had allready (sic) is taken out of their shares - and it is my desire (sic) that my executors should discharge a certain boun that my son John is bound for my son Joseph to Gorge (sic) Weatheril before they pay any part of his share to him of any estate. And it is my wish that my grandson Nehemiah MOUNT shall draw his mother's shre equally with the rest of my children.

And it is my will that all my estate of land and moveable shall be sold at publick sale by my executors ___ (?) private sale as soon as they and my legatees think proper after my deceas. And the money ariseing (sic) for the sle to be devided amongst all my legatees as is herebefore mentioned by my executors.

An lastly I doe nominate, constitute and appoint my son William DEY and my trusty freinds (sic) Mathew RUE and W. PERRINE, son of Peter my executors to execute this my last will and testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this fourth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty-four 1784

In the presasents (sic) of use witnesses


Proved at Princeton, February 3, 1785
Reconstructed 1790 Kentucky census
Dye, John
Mason Co., KY 8/21/1790

1810 United States Federal Census
John Dye
Name: Dye, John
Township: Mason
County: Mason
State: Kentucky
Year: 1810
Roll: M252_7
Page: 274
Image: 285

1820 United States Federal Census
John Dye
Name: Jno Dye
Township: Not Stated
County: Mason
State: KY
Year: 1820
Roll: M33_26
Page: 56
Image Number: 63

Buried in Stonelick cemetery with wife Nancy. Has DAR Revolutionary War marker at his gravesite.
The Migration from Middlesex County, New Jersey to Limestone, Mason County

William, John and Kenneth Dye [Laurens (1) > Hans (2) > John Laurens (3) > William (4) , William (5), John (5), Kenneth (5)] sons of William Dye/Dey migrated from Middlesex County, New Jersey to Mason County, Ohio. The time of migration is difficult to determine but could have been as early as 1787 or as late as 1793. Places of birth of many of the grandchildren of William Dye/Dey are unknown.

Joyce Mills' history of the family of William and Margaret Dye/Dey (Volume 3) notes that William, John and Kenneth migrated with members of the Shotwell, Morris, Stout, Drake, Arms, and Cahill families.

Kathy Smith provided some selections from "Pioneer Life In Kentucky" by Daniel Drake (1870). The book by is in the form of letters written to his children over the years. The one that is abstracted below is in a letter to his daughter, Harriet Echo (Mrs. James Parker Campbell).

"My father, Isaac, was the youngest son of Nathaniel Drake & Dorothy Retan (Rattan). My mother, Elizabeth, always called Betsey, was the daughter of (Benjamin) Shotwell and (Elizabeth) Bonney. They were born within three or four miles of each other".

"After the marriage of my parents, about the year 1783, they went to housekeeping near my grandfather Drake's, on his land where the town of Plainfield, (New Jersey), now is". [John and Kenneth Dye were born in Plainfield, New Jersey

"My father and his brothers (Abraham and Cornelius) were not contented with their position, and thought of emigrating. At that time, your native state was the habitation of Indians only, and KY was but 9 years older than myself...The brothers at first thought of moving (to Virginia) [where other Dye's had migrated]; but when two of them, including my father, made a visit there, they hesitated...The Rev. William Wood, (a Baptist minister) who a few years before had Kentucky, came back...and gave such a glowing account of Ky that old Virginia was soon forgotten. The Rev. Mr. Gano, of New York, another Baptist minister, or some of his sons, had visited Ky and his breath of praise still further fanned the flames - till at length the iron ties of affection for home and friends were melted, and a departure was determined upon.".

"There were a number of motives which accounted for this spectacular migration to the West. Land was relatively cheap and an inhabitant of one of the Atlantic states could sell his hundred acres there and acquire, in Kentucky, over a thousand far more fertile ones and have a substantial sum remaining. The desire for adventure or for acquisition of riches in a newly developing territory doubtless played a part. Some there were, probably, who wished to escape prosecution either for debt or crime. Taxes were high in the Seaboard states after the Revolution, and they could be avoided by emigration".

"The decision extended to five families: - the three brothers (Isaac, Abraham, and Cornelius Drake), Mr. David Morris (at times spelled by him, Morriss), older than either of them, who was married to my mother's cousin, and Mr. John Shotwell, rather younger, who was the brother of Mrs. Morris". [Three of John Shotwell's children - John, Nathan and Charlotte Wells Shotwell married three of Kenneth Dye's children - Rachel, Margaret and William Dye]

"The time fixed on for their departure was the latter part of the spring of 1788. Their first point (was) Red Stone Old Fort where Brownsville, (Pennsylvania), now stands. Their mode of travelling was in two horse wagons. The family of my father consisted, after himself and my mother, of myself, about 2 years & 7 months old, my sister Elizabeth, afterwards Mrs. Glenn, an infant at the breast, and my mother's unmarried sister, Lydia, who chose to accompany her into the wilderness, rather than submit to the caprices of a step mother for a longer time". [Two of William Dye's children - Ruth and Mounteer - married Robert and Aisley Glenn (brother and sister). Perhaps Elizabeth Drake Glenn noted above was a member of this or a related family,]

"Behold, then, the departure! these five persons, three of whom were adults, with all their earthly goods crowded into one "Jersey Wagon," to be hauled over the yet steep & rugged Allegheny mountains, and throughout an overland journey of nearly 400 miles by two horses. their travel was by Corryell's Ferry, on the Delaware Coryell's Ferry, now New Hope, Pennsylvania, thanks to Tom Robert Shaw - see above map], and Harris' Ferry, now Harrisburg, (Pa.), which you have visited, on the Susquehanna." New Hope is about 25 miles from Plainfield, New Jersey.

"I know not the length of time we were in reaching Red Stone Old Fort [- see above figure, less than 20 miles south of the Jersey Settlement] and nearly 300 miles from Middlesex County, New Jersey] , nor how long a preparation for the voyage to the "Point" or "Limestone" now Maysville, (Ky), detained us. When I was at or just leaving Mayslick nearly 3 years since, Mr Jasper Morris told me that his father had kept a diary of the journey, which was in his possession, and which I long very much to see. How many families were crowded into one boat, I do not know. The first and last landing (before reaching Limestone) was at Fort Pitt, now Pittsburg. The danger of being attacked by the Indians was too great to justify a landing (between that point and Limestone).

The flotilla, I presume, consisted of several boats, for the Rev. Mr. Gano, with a numerous family, including the present Mrs. Gen. Gano and her brother, Dr. Wm. Goforth, afterwards my preceptor, belonged to the river community. One of Mr. Gano's boats got stoved, but no lives were lost. That which my parents were in met with no accident; and on the 10th of June, 1788, just 64 days after the first settlement of Ohio at Marietta, we landed at Limestone, KY, which then consisted of a few log cabins only, though Washington, 4 miles off, was something of a village...".

Otto Juettner published (1909) a historical and biographical sketch of Daniel Drake. Selected abstracts from his work offer a biographer's view of Daniel Drake.

Daniel Drake's story of Old Billy Dye refers to William Dye who migrated to Mason County, Kentucky, as "our neighbor in Plainfield". This could be interpreted to mean that William did not migrate with the Drake, Morris and Shotwell parties but followed them a few years later. Regardless, this story helps paint a picture of the migrations from New Jersey to Pennsylvania.

It is interesting that John Shotwell, Cornelius Drake, and Jacob Drake inventoried the estate of "Old Billy" Dye.

Mason Co., KY land deeds
179 - 22 July 1794 Charles Pelham and Isabella his wife of Mason co AND John Dye of Mason co Tr: Sale of land in Mason co Desc: By lands of Isaac Cannan, Moses Wood, James Armstrong Wt: John Pelham, Zarobable Madure, Benjamin Wood Clerk: Thomas Marshall Jr.

189 - 29 June 1798 William Reed and Mary his wife of Mason co AND Robert Glenn of Mason co Tr: Sale of land in Mason co, part of Survey patented in name of Henry Ousley - to John Dye's part of the Survey. Wt: John Hager, John Jones Clerk: Thomas Marshall, Jr.

267 - 28 May 1801 Simon Kenton of North West Territory, by John Kenton, Trustee AND John Dye of Mason co Tr: Sale of land in Mason co, by line of Hugh Shannon Settlement Wt: James Ackley Clerk: John Chambers